Living in Singapore
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starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2131618\" time=\"1711697027\" user_id=\"14025:
Having measures is good as it gives some feedback. It's the attitude towards these measures that matters - they only count as much it matters to you.
In short, during schooling, the grades count. During working, the grades ie salaries count.
We are tied to grades
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zac's mum\" post_id=\"2131619\" time=\"1711697156\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2131619 time=1711697156 user_id=53606]
Mid-life crisis came early for him.
This is worth a read. Former top PSLE scorer. Where is he now? Is he raking in the billions? Is he happy?
https://www.ricemedia.co/ashish-kumar-was-singapore-top-psle-scorer-now-retiree/?fbclid=IwAR3tuhHvtJdk_02JH_UWfM4WrQDH55EBxcqkeDcm8_QaXOj4rv2mRC6DpBM_aem_Ads4YiAoIi_awZHkbR1y_4mMPmOX-cKyMIR0BvjDZzDJqQr5hVIrZvLOymX5zh8sRzQ[/quote]
Put it in a nice way is “retiree”. Not so nice is called unemployed. So many young people in China 躺平 now. Or is he a YouTuber?
What is the article trying to say? Want to retire early like him, must do well in PSLE and study law in Cambridge? The article did not mention where he got his money from to cover his monthly expenditure. Reminds me of my DD2, who once said she is super low maintenance, only needs a bed and an iPad, is enough to sustain her! 😂 -
Being able to 躺平 is a privilege.
Surely his basic needs must have been taken care of before one can 躺平. -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2131667\" time=\"1711762287\" user_id=\"17023:
Better to reach this \"crisis\" earlier than later! He will have many more years ahead of doing what energises him than if he reached this stage at 40.
Mid-life crisis came early for him.
Put it in a nice way is “retiree”. Not so nice is called unemployed. So many young people in China 躺平 now. Or is he a YouTuber?
What is the article trying to say? Want to retire early like him, must do well in PSLE and study law in Cambridge? The article did not mention where he got his money from to cover his monthly expenditure. Reminds me of my DD2, who once said she is super low maintenance, only needs a bed and an iPad, is enough to sustain her! 😂
He said that he had spent very little during his time in the civil service, and so has savings. He also mentioned having some safe investments. And he said his monthly expenses, including travel, was about $1000 a month, so his savings can last him quite a while! I saw some online comments along the line of \"work in the civil service 6 yrs and can retire already!\", but I dare say that most people wouldn't want to be living on $1000 a month!
He did say that the ideal of good results - good scholarship - good degree (and the good job for 6 yrs was payback for the scholarship) was something he would have done again as he valued the time he spent in Cambridge. He also said he didn't dislike the job itself, just that he didn't see himself doing that for the next x years. So he isn't against working hard or doing his best in school or work, just that the career wasn't the right fit for him.
I was not so bold as to \"retire\" in my 20s - but I did know the kind of work I wanted, and switched to that different track (considered \"opting out of the rat race\") early on. Even though it required me to do an MA and gave me a steady paycheck, most people were shocked by my choice. I hope this young man discovers what he really wants to do after he's had some down time to rest and think about it - something that makes him look forward to getting out of bed each day - even if it's not the \"best\" choice by most people's standards. -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2131644\" time=\"1711722730\" user_id=\"17023:
Not all girls are the same. Mine only mature a little in upp sec. I believe some boys mature younger in pri sch too.
Thank you for helping to summarize.
Even if I agree with Minister Chan, I would still aim for IP for my girls. Reason being girls do better than boys in general at 12yo as they are more mature emotionally. More advantageous to push girls to chope a seat in IP via PSLE. At 16yo, boys mature and many start to do better than girls academically. So if my girls were to try at 16yo, they will be at a slight disadvantage because girls tend to plateau and worse still, girls could get into moody spells easily during puberty till 18yo.
To delay PSLE till the children are 14yo, I already think my girls would be disadvantaged. But if mine were boys, then of cos would say 14yo is fairer. LOL. -
00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2131670\" time=\"1711764498\" user_id=\"143605:
Of cos there are exceptions lah.
Not all girls are the same. Mine only mature a little in upp sec. I believe some boys mature younger in pri sch too.
Many western educators even propose to delay enrolling boys into Pri school by 1-2 years so that the social and emotional maturity are about the same. -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2131667\" time=\"1711762287\" user_id=\"17023:
U can check the reddit thread. He actually responded in person to some of the qns/comments there. U can observe his worldview. I personally do not think he is a slacker. In fact he was responsible enough to finish up his bond and he enjoyed his work (just not the career path). If u see some of the comments from his former schoolmates and colleagues, they give some insight into his personality as well.
Mid-life crisis came early for him.
Put it in a nice way is “retiree”. Not so nice is called unemployed. So many young people in China 躺平 now. Or is he a YouTuber?
What is the article trying to say? Want to retire early like him, must do well in PSLE and study law in Cambridge? The article did not mention where he got his money from to cover his monthly expenditure. Reminds me of my DD2, who once said she is super low maintenance, only needs a bed and an iPad, is enough to sustain her! 😂 -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2131661\" time=\"1711760944\" user_id=\"28674:
Agree. Different kids will climb different ladders they gets attracted to. But the role of parents can be a bind.
The important thing is for parents to be open to looking for different \"ladders\" and \"walls\" for their kids depending on their abilities and inclinations, and not expecting that all kids should want the same thing, or be able to achieve the same thing in the end. Setting high and unattainable goals is very stressful on kids - I was one of those, though fairly able, who had a father who always set a goal even higher. His belief (which I disagree with) was that you should always aim for the top - not just Oxbridge, but 1st class; not just 1st class, but top 1st; not just a good job, but the highest pay/prestige; not just to get that kind of job but to climb higher and faster than the next guy... you get the picture. He never considered that I wasn't that calibre, or that I didn't even want to climb that ladder (like that young man), and that constantly being asked why I wasn't doing better was extremely stressful. I survived by blocking out his messages as much as I could, and developing a different value system. And I got married at 23 to a man who valued me for being willing to step off that ladder!
I'm NOT saying that there should be no goals, no aspirations - but they should be realistic and tailored to the child's abilities and interests, not just what \"everyone else\" thinks is good. And parents need to tell the child that they are happy that the child done as best he can at climbing his chosen ladder and wall.
My take is never push hard against the tide, but parents need to guide young & moldable kids. It’s not an easy role. Not like we are God himself & know exactly how or what image to mold for a start. That’s the beauty abt relationships - you need to engage, observe & interact with the child to know what’s next step to guide coz we’re all not given any specific manual. Any parents here gets a manual for raising kids?
I might hv grown up with some of my unfulfilled dreams; I might be an easygoing lasiere faire in managing my kids but I believe we are either a product of our society or a result of being weathered against the tide to avoid all norms or the in btwns.
I didn’t hv an easy time when DS was growing up as he’s such an active & rombutious child, oftentimes I lost much of my energy just managing him. If I let him be & not sit him to do some work, I’m not sure if he’ll turn out to what he is today. I’ve to make some effort to stretch him as he grows & not leave those energy to its devices. I had to work ‘against his grains’ if anyone were to accuse me of pushing him too hard, but I know he’s got the ability, just a playful, dashing young chap who runs off every direction w/o discipline & at age 4 can challenge me with my own instructions to him. With a kid who has less energy and milder, I won’t hv the heart to stretch or push. However, I’ve nvr pushed him to some ideal of 💯% mark or beyond. Those were only indicators of him amongst his peers & I’ll only ask if he’s happy abt it & he tells me then I do his bidding whether he’s satisfied or wants to push himself fwd before I help him push fwd.
Today, with his brilliant score, if he doesn’t wish to aim to study medicine or engineering, it’s not my call but his, but still I’ve to do my due diligence to and help him process himself btwn now and his life moving fwd. He have some ideals, but are those ideals practical to all that he needs to live getting food on the table, paying for the roof over his head, finding his hobbies & moving with his circle of frds & the extras to take care of his health or buy gifts for his gfrd/wife/kids.
Teens can live in a cocoon if we just leave them to stay in their own comfortable dreams and not exposed to the world beyond them, which continues to evolve. I’ve no answer and don’t pretend to have one that fits my kids. My answer today may not be relevant when they reach that world they’ve to step in to serve & work. But one thing I did recently, no matter what he does, he’s gotta step out to taste work, whatever comes along. He did tutoring & waitering in-btwn some volunteering work with the migrant workers I was involved during Covid. Hopefully, he acquires some values in making himself useful with his abilities & talents. -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2131660\" time=\"1711760063\" user_id=\"28674:
Yes, it seems that IP has become the main source of stress and divide since its inception. Actually, even in pri sch, there have been grouping of kids in different classes according to abilities based on sch results. Don't exactly need psle at 12yo to do that.
Yes - I agree! My ideal would be \"full subject-based banding\" (or some similar system) for all grades from P1 to JC2, or at least S1 to JC2. It would be a nightmare to timetable, but that would be mean that kids of all abilities would be less segregated, while those who need more challenge or more support in specific subjects would be able to get it. Then we can ditch the \"IP\" label. I would also like all independent schools to revert to government-funded so they don't use their additional wealth to create another divide in the education system.
Is it really proven or evident that the IP kids are more suitable for the talent or advanced prog?
A kid with talent in math got AL1 in math but AL5 in CL and AL3 in Eng, vs a kid with AL2 in math but AL1 in both CL and Eng, the former will miss the opportunity to do advance math but the latter get to do advanced math but may not be passionate about it.
A kid I know, missed IP by 1 pt, now in JC2, so talented in maths, his physics olympiad can beat many IP students even those in IP math talent prog. Apparently you need high level math skills to do advanced physics.
A number of O level kids got through selection process into special prog where many ip kids in same sch didn't. I believe their abilities are on par but it's their passion for a certain subject that make the difference. Hope that opportunities can be extended to all students, not just IP students. It's a know fact that there are students who are displaced in both streams and psle may not be as accurate as before. -
zac's mum\" post_id=\"2131645\" time=\"1711723813\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2131645 time=1711723813 user_id=53606]
Actually no need to decide and think too much at this stage, just study hard in school and prepare well for every exam. If the exam results qualify for any scholarships, then go for it. 人生就是摸着石头过河，一步一步走.
I don’t think he is interested in that ladder, even if he has the calibre. But that’s ok with me.[/quote]
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