2010 DSA(Direct School Admission)
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my concern is:
SAP school should put more time on Chinese than those non-SAP school, it means SAP school put less time on English and other subjects. am i right?
verykiasu2010:
that is NOT truefromnuaa:
Hi INNOVATE, thanks for your comments.
what i worry is: my daughter has no much interest in Chinese, but NYGH and HCI put more time (compare to RI and RGS) on Chinese learning, does it affect English and other subjects? Everyday pupil has limited time for learning...
[quote=\"INNOVATE\"]fromaa
1. Since your dd is academically gifted, she is expected to score above 262. If you are confident on this point, reject the CO from NGHS and apply under centralised posting.
2. If unsure of above due to some reasons, take the offer from NGHS and forget about appearing later. This is the right thing to do. It does not matter even if majority of her classmates will to opt for RGS.
Both these top schools are outstanding and academically both are on par. Who knows years later you may congratulate yourself for making the correct choice today, especially if your dd proves to be a humanities scholar later.
The humanities programme at HCI is known to be so english centered and superior that it attracts a group of top art students from RGS to cross over annually.
NYGH and HCI is as English as any other schools in Singapore, notwithstanding their Chinese \"tradition\". At every open house every year, they take pain to address this misconception
If you have doubt, go talk to the principal directly
HCI has Beijing campus, but they also have immersion in Angmo countries and angmo school
RI/RJC's immersion are in India, Vietnam, Malaysia, & China too
HCI graduates are equally well sought after by the Ivy league and the Oxbridge[/quote] -
for those who believe they can manage the HCL, then they shd give it a shot. Coz I understand that without HCL, u will not get a low enough for L1R5 to get into those top JCs which is ard 2~3.
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\"RI/RGS students I know all take Chinese tuition\"
i never know RI/RGS students still need take tuition before...
from p1-p6, my daughter never take any tuition..d1s2:
Yes, HCL in RI/RGS is not easy either. My son's primary school chinese teacher said that their chinese standard would drop for those who went on to RI but she's not worried about those going to HCI. The RI/RGS students I know all take Chinese tuition and some going to 2 different tuition centres just as probably the HCI/NYGH kids do.
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fromnuaa:
I think the most common tution is Chinese. Close to 95% of my DD's classmates has Chinese tuition. Great to know that your DD does not have any tuition; should keep it that way and dont be tempted to give in.\"RI/RGS students I know all take Chinese tuition\"
i never know RI/RGS students still need take tuition before...
from p1-p6, my daughter never take any tuition..d1s2:
Yes, HCL in RI/RGS is not easy either. My son's primary school chinese teacher said that their chinese standard would drop for those who went on to RI but she's not worried about those going to HCI. The RI/RGS students I know all take Chinese tuition and some going to 2 different tuition centres just as probably the HCI/NYGH kids do.
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fromnuaa:
fromnuaa, I asked this question earlier as I guess this was your concern from your earlier post.how about RI/RGS?
for RI, if 10 periods spent on LA (english) and 5 spent on chinese, it means RI put more time on English than HCI, that is my concern...
my family is Chinese speaking environment, but my daughter likes English than Chinese, so sad...xxjustakidxx:
I'm from hci sec 1. in my time table, 8 periods spent on LA (english) and only 7 spent on chinese.
I was hoping to hear some feedback from parents with kids in RI/RGS. But my impression is the same as INNOVATE that the periods are about the same for SAP and non-SAP schools. I also agree with verykiasu2010 that the number of curriculum hours is not necessarily the best yardstick of focus. Based on my ds1's experience, his Chinese improved tremendously after joining HCI, but his English improved even more because the school is indeed very focused on English, both written and oral communication. In short, you need not be too worried. -
fromnuaa:
[/quote]I think your assumption \"SAP school should put more time on Chinese than those non-SAP school, it means SAP school put less time on English and other subjects.\" is not true. My ds1 was from non_SAP primary school. I think the main difference is that he is now surrounded by classmates who are stronger in Chinese and generally have more interest in the language. For the same curriculum time, the lesson is spent on more \"advanced Chinese\" curriculum rather than going through CiYu. Like some other forumer said, these are smart kids since they cleared COP for HCI, they are able to pick up fast given the environment, even though the learning curve is steep.my concern is:
that is NOT true
SAP school should put more time on Chinese than those non-SAP school, it means SAP school put less time on English and other subjects. am i right?verykiasu2010:
[quote=\"fromnuaa\"]Hi INNOVATE, thanks for your comments.
what i worry is: my daughter has no much interest in Chinese, but NYGH and HCI put more time (compare to RI and RGS) on Chinese learning, does it affect English and other subjects? Everyday pupil has limited time for learning...
NYGH and HCI is as English as any other schools in Singapore, notwithstanding their Chinese \"tradition\". At every open house every year, they take pain to address this misconception
If you have doubt, go talk to the principal directly
HCI has Beijing campus, but they also have immersion in Angmo countries and angmo school
RI/RJC's immersion are in India, Vietnam, Malaysia, & China too
HCI graduates are equally well sought after by the Ivy league and the Oxbridge -
Eh eh forgot to mention, english is 10, because of AAP (arts and acts of persuasion, english enrichment)
+ we take away your usual home econs, dnt, and merged cme into assembly, freed quite alot of lesson time. -
formnuaa, you mentioned that your girl is quite shy and did not do well during DSA interview. If NYGH has similar programme as HCI, then she will be given very good exposure and training in oral communication for both English and Chinese. I am not trying to persuade you to choose NYGH over RGS, just another point for your reference.
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Nebbermind:
There is nothing defensive about it. it arose from what you said - seemingly pointing the blame to the wrongly assumed emphasis on chinese at the expense of english, which caused your friend's son to eventually have to transfer out of the school - my take is that it is more than meet the eyes...
not sure what was the cause but probably just not doing well and then started losing interest and eventual spiralled out of control. He was in IP...believe HCI only came into existence 4~5 yrs after the IP prog.verykiasu2010:
what is the cause in Sec 2 / 3 that affected the HCL and other subjects also caused by HCL? sounds too much of a generalisation from your friend.
pre-HCI days means Chinese High days and the kids would be doing 'O' Levels instead of the through train / IP to HCJC...
And how could one subject just suddenly drop ? and caused other subjects to drop ? BGR problem ? disciplinary issue ? may be your friend did not tell you the whole story to save face lah .... just guessing
I remember those who are weak, they are given extra tuition by the teachers, and if there is any emo issues, the teachers are approachable....unless they don't want to talk and got discipline issue that caused all the subjects to drop, not just HCL...HCL is just a scapegoat by the parents may be
Whatever it is, I'm just sharing and there is no need to be too defensive abt the school or HCL. I've friends whose parents were chinese teachers, and also friends who are chinese teachers themselves...and the children not necessarily enjoy or do well in chinese.
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\"had a friend who son was in the pre-HCI, chinese high, some yrs ago. was a bright student from NYPS who did very well...no problem with HCL. But somehow during either sec2 or 3, he started failing HCL and that affected his other subjects. since the school does not have normal chinese, his only way ahead was to switch school...not much choice. also, with results sliding down, not easy to convince other 'branded' school to take him in. \" unquote -
fromnuaa:
That is simply not truemy concern is:
SAP school should put more time on Chinese than those non-SAP school, it means SAP school put less time on English and other subjects. am i right?
How many times do you want people to tell you that HCI/NYGH is just as English as any other English schools in Singapore ?
If you are not persuaded by all the parents here who know about the school, why don't you make a trip to Bukit Timah to find out from the school....another open house is coming up (25 Sep), HCI International though....but still you can go look see and ask questions
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