Opinions of the Primary School Registration System

[gvyong]

pirate:

Lizzie:

However, there should be only one principle that should be held true consistently i.e \"distance\" upon which the school placement are allocated for, no? Was this not the basis that the school was allocated in the first place? Once move house, transfer to school nearer to home. That's it.

Wait... I can get my kid transferred to HPPS just by moving nearer to the school?!

Why HPPS? It's just an ordinary govt primary sch that got lucky in its day.

If got that kind of money, move to nearer SCGS, MGS or ACS better choice lah. :evil:

[Lizzie]

LOLMum:

i am convinced only if the so many ministers / civil servants put their kids in these \"good\" schools....spread it out. take the lead. dont go via 2a or 2b route.

Imami:

But hey, moe says all schools are good schools. So, still painful right?

No two schools are the same and they can never be the same. Yes, they may be purportedly to be good schools. But what is good? what is bad? All that's available to be seen and evaluated are the concrete facts - School results, the CCA provided for, the strenght of the alumnus and the track record. The reason why so called\" branded schools\" are popular are due to reasons such as strong alumni network, the \"name/reputation itself\" carries weight (which may lend credence and favour in the future and prospect of the child), enrichment courses or CCA (which may not be available in some other schools), the environment in which the child studies in and the people they mix around thereby the influence on the child are definitely not and not the same . No matter what is said, that all schools are the same - just think again. Hence, to convince us that all schools are the same, what should be done would be, to reset all the button and allocate students on based on one equitable system- distance .

[nms1]

Lizzie:

LOLMum:

i am convinced only if the so many ministers / civil servants put their kids in these \"good\" schools....spread it out. take the lead. dont go via 2a or 2b route.

[quote=\"Imami\"]But hey, moe says all schools are good schools. So, still painful right?

No two schools are the same and they can never be the same. Yes, they may be purportedly to be good schools. But what is good? what is bad? All that's available to be seen and evaluated are the concrete facts - School results, the CCA provided for, the strenght of the alumnus and the track record. The reason why so called\" branded schools\" are popular are due to reasons such as strong alumni network, the \"name/reputation itself\" carries weight (which may lend credence and favour in the future and prospect of the child), enrichment courses or CCA (which may not be available in some other schools), the environment in which the child studies in and the people they mix around thereby the influence on the child are definitely not and not the same . No matter what is said, that all schools are the same - just think again. Hence, to convince us that all schools are the same, what should be done would be, to reset all the button and allocate students on based on one equitable system- distance .[/quote]But surely if we go by distance only it still isn't equitable as some schools will be in the middle of landed/private property estates and therefore full of children whose parents can send them to endless tuition/enrichment while other may be in less affluent areas and full of children whose parents can barely make ends meet.

You can't press \"reset\" entirely so what will happen is the value/cost of property surrounding the brand-name schools will sky-rocket.

I didn't grow up here but in the UK where that was the system in place at the time. We lived in a private estate which fell in the catchment area for a school with a terrible record simply because it was in the middle of a very run-down public housing estate and most of the pupils' parents didn't care what the children were doing. My parents ended up paying for me to go to a private school as there was no way they would send me there. We eventually moved before my brother started primary school so that he didn't have to go there.

[Lizzie]

Give everychild an equal base line at least for the starting years of their education such as primary school. The real and true meritocratic system would be purely based on individual’s performance at PSLE , 6 years later down the road, assuming everyone’s enrolled fairly in the different schools based on a equitable system. Yes, everyone’s born different , to different families of different status or income but the system should not accentuate these differences further. The system should at least assure equal playing field at the starting point. If the divide comes early even at such a young age, I cannot imagine the gap could get only wider if the later years.

[Kagillus]

pirate:

Lizzie:

However, there should be only one principle that should be held true consistently i.e \"distance\" upon which the school placement are allocated for, no? Was this not the basis that the school was allocated in the first place? Once move house, transfer to school nearer to home. That's it.

Wait... I can get my kid transferred to HPPS just by moving nearer to the school?!

Ghim moh estate has taken up too many places at HPPS. Not much chance as most places taken up by sibling phase n old girls boysphase.

[Viva]

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[limlim]

Viva:

Hello, any comments on the below post in HSK's Facebook?

:goodpost:

However, some comments below

Viva:

Hello, any comments on the below post in HSK's Facebook?
--Quote--

4) Once Phase 1A and NEW Phase 1B allocation are completed, I suggest the MOE to allocate the remaining vacancies equally amongst Phase 2A, Phase 2B and Phase 2C (except for Phase 2C supplementary). In the case where the number of applicants in each phase exceeds the vacancies, the school will have to conduct balloting exercise and priority will be given based on proximity from home to school.

--unquote--

The remaining shd be split into 50-50 between (2A+2B) and 2C.

Meaning 2C gets 50% of the vacancy. (or even higher is better, like 60%).

2A & 2B split the remaining among themselves.. maybe 50~50 or whatever they deemed fit.

Say,

2A - 20%
2B - 20%
2C - 60%

looks fine.

Do not forget that 2A & 2B applicants can have 2 tries.. they can try again at P2C. Hence, it isn't unfair for them to have lesser allocation at the beginning.

[SAHM_TAN]

I'm puzzled why the writer suggested the below for the new 1B


-- 2A(2)(a) For a child whose sibling has studied in the primary school of choice. Priority given is to be consistent with the current Phase 1 - sibling priority.

The writer is ok with priority given to siblings who studied in the school before but not parents who studied there previously ? :?

limlim,

not all who qualified for P2A and P2B will have another chance in P2C. For very popular schools, those staying 1-2km might not have a chance to ballot in P2C.

[Oppsgal]

SAHM_TAN:

I'm puzzled why the writer suggested the below for the new 1B


-- 2A(2)(a) For a child whose sibling has studied in the primary school of choice. Priority given is to be consistent with the current Phase 1 - sibling priority.

The writer is ok with priority given to siblings who studied in the school before but not parents who studied there previously ? :?

limlim,

not all who qualified for P2A and P2B will have another chance in P2C. For very popular schools, those staying 1-2km might not have a chance to ballot in P2C.

If the parents had studied in the school long long time ago and move house already, can the kids still apply and get in the same school even though is far away?

[SAHM_TAN]

Oppsgal:

SAHM_TAN:

I'm puzzled why the writer suggested the below for the new 1B


-- 2A(2)(a) For a child whose sibling has studied in the primary school of choice. Priority given is to be consistent with the current Phase 1 - sibling priority.

The writer is ok with priority given to siblings who studied in the school before but not parents who studied there previously ? :?

limlim,

not all who qualified for P2A and P2B will have another chance in P2C. For very popular schools, those staying 1-2km might not have a chance to ballot in P2C.

If the parents had studied in the school long long time ago and move house already, can the kids still apply and get in the same school even though is far away?

Under current P2A1/2, yes. This makes those who stay within walking distance of the school and still can't get in unhappy. While parents using P2A1/2, their position is tradition is important.