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    • A Offline
      aps
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      Hey MathIzzzFun


      You are a genius! Thanks so much for helping! :rahrah:

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        Udon
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        verykiasumummy:
        Udon:

        Need help...thanks


        Q1. The height of the water level in a tank rose from 80 cm to 1.16 m. Express the increase in the height of the water level as a percentage of the original height of the water level.

        How to calculate the original height?


        Q2. Peter took 30 minutes to clean his father's car while his elder brother only took 15 minutes to clean it. How long would both of them take to clean the car together?

        It's Average calculation method right? I tried to add and divide but still could not find the answer....

        hi udon,

        Q1. the original height need not be calculated, already in the question stated 80cm was the original height.
        so take 116cm - 80cm = 36cm.

        36/80 x 100% = 45%

        Q2.
        Peter : 30mins to clean the car
        30mins --> 1 car
        5mins --> 1/6 of the car.

        Bro : 15mins to clean the car.
        15mins --> 1 car
        5mins --> 1/3 of the car.

        so in 5 mins, both of them will clean
        1/6 + 1/3 = 3/6 (1/2 of the car)

        so 5 x 2 = 10mins.
        (in 10mins, they will clean the whole car together)


        Thanks ...but sorry that I dont understand y we use 5mins not calculate as per min? And how come the solution become fraction sums? :?:

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          verykiasumummy
          last edited by

          Udon:
          verykiasumummy:

          [quote=\"Udon\"]Need help...thanks


          Q1. The height of the water level in a tank rose from 80 cm to 1.16 m. Express the increase in the height of the water level as a percentage of the original height of the water level.

          How to calculate the original height?


          Q2. Peter took 30 minutes to clean his father's car while his elder brother only took 15 minutes to clean it. How long would both of them take to clean the car together?

          It's Average calculation method right? I tried to add and divide but still could not find the answer....

          hi udon,

          Q1. the original height need not be calculated, already in the question stated 80cm was the original height.
          so take 116cm - 80cm = 36cm.

          36/80 x 100% = 45%

          Q2.
          Peter : 30mins to clean the car
          30mins --> 1 car
          5mins --> 1/6 of the car.

          Bro : 15mins to clean the car.
          15mins --> 1 car
          5mins --> 1/3 of the car.

          so in 5 mins, both of them will clean
          1/6 + 1/3 = 3/6 (1/2 of the car)

          so 5 x 2 = 10mins.
          (in 10mins, they will clean the whole car together)


          Thanks ...but sorry that I dont understand y we use 5mins not calculate as per min? And how come the solution become fraction sums? :?:
          [/quote]u can also calculate per min, will get same answer ultimately.

          such questions on rate will need to be solved like this... the same method that i teach my dc is also applied in school..

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            MathIzzzFun
            last edited by

            Udon:
            Need help...thanks


            Q2. Peter took 30 minutes to clean his father's car while his elder brother only took 15 minutes to clean it. How long would both of them take to clean the car together?

            It's Average calculation method right? I tried to add and divide but still could not find the answer....

            Two alternate approaches for such questions:

            1) Find LCM of 15 and 30 --> 30
            Suppose cleaning the car represents 30 units of work.

            Then,
            Peter's work rate --> 30 units/ 30 min = 1 unit/min
            Elder brother's work rate --> 30 units/ 15 min = 2 units/ min

            when both clean the car together,
            combined work rate --> 2 units/min + 1 unit/min = 3 units/min

            and time taken to clean the car together = 30 units ÷ 3 units/ min = 10 min

            2) In 30 min,
            Peter would clean 30/30 = 1 car
            Elder brother would clean 30/15 = 2 cars

            So, they would clean 3 cars together in 30 min
            To clean 1 car together, time taken = 30 min/3 = 10 min

            cheers

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              bookwormkids
              last edited by

              Please help!


              Q1
              There were 920 seats in a concert. The last four rows were priced 70% of the rest of the seats. There were 55 seats each in the last four rows. The total amount collected when all the seats were sold was $25 620. How much was the cost of each seat in the back row?

              Q2
              The average number of stickers of Paul, Quinn, Roy and Steve is 75. The ratio of the total number of stickers of Paul and Quinn to the ratio of the total number of stickers of Roy and Steve is 7 : 3. The number of Roy’s stickers is 1/4 the number of Steve’s stickers. What is the average number of stickers of Paul, Quinn and Roy?

              Q3
              A basket of pears were divided among Alice, Betty and Clara. Alice received 6 more than 1/4 of the pears. Betty received 4 more than 1/3 of the remaining pears. Clara received half of the remainder, plus the last 3 pears. What percentage of the pears did Clara receive? (round off your answer to 2 decimal place)

              Thank you!

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              • MathIzzzFunM Offline
                MathIzzzFun
                last edited by

                bookwormkids:
                Please help!


                Q3
                A basket of pears were divided among Alice, Betty and Clara. Alice received 6 more than 1/4 of the pears. Betty received 4 more than 1/3 of the remaining pears. Clara received half of the remainder, plus the last 3 pears. What percentage of the pears did Clara receive? (round off your answer to 2 decimal place)

                Thank you!
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                cheers.

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                  MathIzzzFun
                  last edited by

                  bookwormkids:
                  Please help!


                  Q2
                  The average number of stickers of Paul, Quinn, Roy and Steve is 75. The ratio of the total number of stickers of Paul and Quinn to the ratio of the total number of stickers of Roy and Steve is 7 : 3. The number of Roy's stickers is 1/4 the number of Steve's stickers. What is the average number of stickers of Paul, Quinn and Roy?


                  Thank you!
                  Total number of stickers --> 75 x 4 = 300

                  Paul & Quinn's stickers : Roy & Steve's stickers
                  = 7 : 3
                  = 210 : 90

                  Roy' stickers : Steve's stickers = 1 : 4
                  Roy's stickers --> 1/5 x 90 = 18

                  Total number of stickers for Paul, Quinn & Roy = 210 + 18 = 228

                  Average number of stickers of Paul, Quinn & Roy = 228/3 = 76

                  cheers.

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                  • MathIzzzFunM Offline
                    MathIzzzFun
                    last edited by

                    bookwormkids:
                    Please help!


                    Q1
                    There were 920 seats in a concert. The last four rows were priced 70% of the rest of the seats. There were 55 seats each in the last four rows. The total amount collected when all the seats were sold was $25 620. How much was the cost of each seat in the back row?

                    Thank you!
                    Price of a seat, not in last 4 rows --> 1u
                    Price of a seat in last 4 rows --> 0.7u

                    Total number of seats in last 4 rows --> 55 x 4 = 220
                    Total amount collected for seats in last 4 rows = 220 x 0.7u = 154u

                    Total number of seats in other rows = 920-220=700
                    total amount collected for seats in other rows = 700 x 1u = 700u

                    Total amount collected for all seats = 700u + 154u = 854u

                    854u --> $ 25620
                    1u --> $30

                    Cost of a seat in back row = 0.7 x $30 = $21

                    cheers.

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                      bookwormkids
                      last edited by

                      Hi MathIzzzFun! Thank you so much! shall pass the solutions to my kid to digest them ! 😄

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                        lotto
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                        Xiao Hu:

                        Hi Lotto,
                        Looks like you are assuming the number of bags bought are multiples of 4. Can it not be multiples of 4? If say, number of bags bought is 6, then free pencil case is 2. So he may have bought 1 more pencil case, then ratio of pencil case to bag is 2/6 = 1/3, which is what the end ratio is. But the starting ratio is not 1/4 (1 free pencil case to 6 bags).

                        I don't know how to solve it in any other way though.

                        May be gurus like Tianzhu and MathIzzzzFun can help us here?

                        Thanks,
                        Xiaohu.
                        Hi Xiao Hu,

                        In Maths, our brain is automatically thinking that it must be a multiple of 4 when we read the question (especially for primary school).

                        If you are looking into that type of answer, u might need to do 4 workings (for multiple of 4, multiple of 4 +1, multiple of 4 +2, multiple of 4 +3) and check one by one and end up with 4 solutions too.

                        Take it easy! It is not as hard as u think.

                        Cheers :celebrate:

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