Students asking for school start time to be later

Reply to Students asking for school start time to be later on Mon, 27 Sep 2021 09:11:20 GMT

Zeal mummy — Mon, 27 Sep 2021 09:11:20 GMT

sevenseals\" post_id=\"2035299\" time=\"1629699168\" user_id=\"124401:

You won't notice it in your child because you are looking at them everyday.

Suggest you take photos of your child before primary school and compare them with photos during primary/secondary school.

Yes having optimal sleep is crucial to development and also mental well-being. For old people like me too, I get easily frustrated when I don’t get adequate sleep.

Reply to Students asking for school start time to be later on Mon, 27 Sep 2021 09:09:55 GMT

Zeal mummy — Mon, 27 Sep 2021 09:09:55 GMT

bumankumar3\" post_id=\"2039629\" time=\"1632731609\" user_id=\"195037:

I don't remember need to stayback till so late for primary level. https://vidm.fun/vidmate/
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Yea. I don’t think they stay back that late too.

Reply to Students asking for school start time to be later on Mon, 27 Sep 2021 09:09:18 GMT

Zeal mummy — Mon, 27 Sep 2021 09:09:18 GMT

megh24\" post_id=\"2035308\" time=\"1629703806\" user_id=\"194094:

The problem is what happens when school start times are pushed later? Assuming the same amount of work and classes and CCA, they will end school even later...

Nowadays secondary school students can end at about 6pm on CCA days (2-3 times a week), while JC students can go up to 9pm.

Let's say we push this back 1 hour, where will our kids find time to do homework? And their lives don't just revolve around school - where is their leisure time, time to cultivate other skills and passions?

Sigh, anything we change I believe will only be a stopgap and surface solution. As a society, the competitiveness and focus on academics is already too ingrained in us. I wonder if there's anything to be done to shift this mentality for the sake of our future generations..

Hey relax a little. The competition is only what we want it to be. Trust that efficiency will improve when they get more sleep. It’s entirely possible to end at the same time or even earlier, even after they push back the start time.

Reply to Students asking for school start time to be later on Mon, 23 Aug 2021 06:12:48 GMT

sevenseals — Mon, 23 Aug 2021 06:12:48 GMT

You won’t notice it in your child because you are looking at them everyday.

Suggest you take photos of your child before primary school and compare them with photos during primary/secondary school.

Reply to Students asking for school start time to be later on Mon, 23 Aug 2021 06:05:50 GMT

sevenseals — Mon, 23 Aug 2021 06:05:50 GMT

https://i.imgur.com/Wjat87L.png\">

After and before photos of sleep deprivation.

More on:
http://theabsolutemag.com/7194/art/faces-of-the-sleep-deprived/

Reply to Students asking for school start time to be later on Sat, 21 Aug 2021 11:28:57 GMT

aujlaranjit49 — Sat, 21 Aug 2021 11:28:57 GMT

I saw a little thank you note on the table the other day… a classmate say thank you for being bla bla bla including waking her up when teacher came into class… yea the issue is real.

Reply to Students asking for school start time to be later on Tue, 17 Aug 2021 11:44:25 GMT

sharonkhoo — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 11:44:25 GMT

Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2034748\" time=\"1629197151\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2034748 time=1629197151 user_id=58173]
Your son has got an awesome bedtime schedule! Even lights out, all work done, also cannot sleep… I tot is a puberty thingy or teenage problem. Any idea how to fall asleep?[/quote]

Have a bedtime routine so he can unwind - about 1 hr before bedtime. Nothing exciting, no gadgets, chat with parents, etc. My kids had a routine from babyhood, and although it's changed over the years, they are used to going to bed at a set time. They do use their gadgets right up to bedtime now, but mainly to WA, not to play games. And they aren't continually on their gadgets for hours; a few minutes at a time interspersed with talking to someone, watching some TV, just bumming around... It doesn't affect their sleep.

Another thing - physical activity in the late afternoon helps. If they are tired, they will sleep more easily.

Reply to Students asking for school start time to be later on Tue, 17 Aug 2021 11:30:51 GMT

Estéema — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 11:30:51 GMT

Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2034749\" time=\"1629197201\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2034749 time=1629197201 user_id=58173]
Imp75\" post_id=\"2034746\" time=\"1629194387\" user_id=\"2358:
Oh dear. Maybe not just sleep.. could be stress. Take care..
Yes, stress is the contributing factor to sleeplessness. The other thing is anxieties.

Reply to Students asking for school start time to be later on Tue, 17 Aug 2021 11:29:21 GMT

Estéema — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 11:29:21 GMT

Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2034748\" time=\"1629197151\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2034748 time=1629197151 user_id=58173]
Estéema\" post_id=\"2034732\" time=\"1629187140\" user_id=\"66413:
[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2034717 time=1629183592 user_id=58173]

Lol. I think they (the kids) will try to sleep in more.. or sleep through their weekends. Lucky haven’t seen many balding kids…
Hahaha.... they won’t bald now lah, but in later years, hair drop. I just rmb’d also in TCM, the recommended sleeping time ideally is fr 9pm & our kidney starts their detoxing & cleansing routine ard 11pm when we’re deep in sleep. There’s a purpose in sleeping early & enuf hours to wake early. Many are now candidates for kidney issues once past 60-70s. I think I’ll be a likely candidate. But I must admit, in our busy city life, hardly anyone sleeps early. I only know my DS very discipline - must sleep latest but 9.30pm. Since his second sch days, he’s only done a handful of past 10pm project work. But that’s only when he schedule on his late sch day for next sch day. I used to worry how he’s going to managed with 2 compulsory CCAs. But he’s now a pro in time mgt. I hope it carries thro to his adulthood.[/quote]

Your son has got an awesome bedtime schedule! Even lights out, all work done, also cannot sleep… I tot is a puberty thingy or teenage problem. Any idea how to fall asleep?[/quote]When DS was a baby, so hard to get him to sleep even when entire h’hold lights off & conduct cleaning or packing for end-of-day. I rmbr pretending to be asleep with closed eyes & holding my bladder w/o a twitch o’wise all effort to start him to sleep will be lost. A tall order for an older mum. Suspect that’s why I ocassionally hv the incontinnence as I grow much older. But very comforted now that he’s organized himself well now. He doesn’t want any TV sound or chatter fr the rest of h’hold now when he gets to sleep. He’s also got this belief abt the blue light emittance which we talked abt s’time after his P6 exams, so wld not put his hp next to him in bed but out at the b’fast table. So, maybe tune the internal belief system of yr child?

Reply to Students asking for school start time to be later on Tue, 17 Aug 2021 10:47:19 GMT

Zeal mummy — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 10:47:19 GMT

MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2034727\" time=\"1629186042\" user_id=\"43981:

Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2034699\" time=\"1629179069\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2034699 time=1629179069 user_id=58173]
Actually nowadays I don't know how my eldest can sleep at 2am everyday and wake up at 630am every sch day? Is this a very young adult thing to sleep late? I recalled we only started this behaviour when we were staying in the campus in uni.
Hi5!

My sentiments exactly! I don’t get it either. However, on NO school days she sleeps till 12pm. So i think we will benefit from a later start time. It’s the waking up part that can be better managed.

The no school days hours very familiar lol.. that's the time for elder gal catch up her sleep.[/quote]

Reply to Students asking for school start time to be later on Tue, 17 Aug 2021 10:46:41 GMT

Zeal mummy — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 10:46:41 GMT

Imp75\" post_id=\"2034746\" time=\"1629194387\" user_id=\"2358:

Estéema\" post_id=\"2034708\" time=\"1629181961\" user_id=\"66413:
[quote=Imp75 post_id=2034695 time=1629178573 user_id=2358]Actually nowadays I don't know how my eldest can sleep at 2am everyday and wake up at 630am every sch day? Is this a very young adult thing to sleep late? I recalled we only started this behaviour when we were staying in the campus in uni.
Sleep debt will come after haunting thro health signs. One of the effects is loss of hair.

I agree. She has been dropping a lot of hair. Sometimes I keep thinking why JC has to push so hard??[/quote]Oh dear. Maybe not just sleep.. could be stress. Take care..

Reply to Students asking for school start time to be later on Tue, 17 Aug 2021 10:45:51 GMT

Zeal mummy — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 10:45:51 GMT

Estéema\" post_id=\"2034732\" time=\"1629187140\" user_id=\"66413:

Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2034717\" time=\"1629183592\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2034717 time=1629183592 user_id=58173]
Hahaha.... they won’t bald now lah, but in later years, hair drop. I just rmb’d also in TCM, the recommended sleeping time ideally is fr 9pm & our kidney starts their detoxing & cleansing routine ard 11pm when we’re deep in sleep. There’s a purpose in sleeping early & enuf hours to wake early. Many are now candidates for kidney issues once past 60-70s. I think I’ll be a likely candidate. But I must admit, in our busy city life, hardly anyone sleeps early. I only know my DS very discipline - must sleep latest but 9.30pm. Since his second sch days, he’s only done a handful of past 10pm project work. But that’s only when he schedule on his late sch day for next sch day. I used to worry how he’s going to managed with 2 compulsory CCAs. But he’s now a pro in time mgt. I hope it carries thro to his adulthood.
Your son has got an awesome bedtime schedule! Even lights out, all work done, also cannot sleep… I tot is a puberty thingy or teenage problem. Any idea how to fall asleep?

Reply to Students asking for school start time to be later on Tue, 17 Aug 2021 09:59:47 GMT

Imp75 — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 09:59:47 GMT

Estéema\" post_id=\"2034708\" time=\"1629181961\" user_id=\"66413:

Imp75\" post_id=\"2034695\" time=\"1629178573\" user_id=\"2358:
Actually nowadays I don't know how my eldest can sleep at 2am everyday and wake up at 630am every sch day? Is this a very young adult thing to sleep late? I recalled we only started this behaviour when we were staying in the campus in uni.
Sleep debt will come after haunting thro health signs. One of the effects is loss of hair.

I agree. She has been dropping a lot of hair. Sometimes I keep thinking why JC has to push so hard??

Reply to Students asking for school start time to be later on Tue, 17 Aug 2021 07:59:00 GMT

Estéema — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 07:59:00 GMT

Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2034717\" time=\"1629183592\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2034717 time=1629183592 user_id=58173]
Estéema\" post_id=\"2034708\" time=\"1629181961\" user_id=\"66413:
Actually nowadays I don't know how my eldest can sleep at 2am everyday and wake up at 630am every sch day? Is this a very young adult thing to sleep late? I recalled we only started this behaviour when we were staying in the campus in uni.
Sleep debt will come after haunting thro health signs. One of the effects is loss of hair.

Lol. I think they (the kids) will try to sleep in more.. or sleep through their weekends. Lucky haven’t seen many balding kids…[/quote]Hahaha.... they won’t bald now lah, but in later years, hair drop. I just rmb’d also in TCM, the recommended sleeping time ideally is fr 9pm & our kidney starts their detoxing & cleansing routine ard 11pm when we’re deep in sleep. There’s a purpose in sleeping early & enuf hours to wake early. Many are now candidates for kidney issues once past 60-70s. I think I’ll be a likely candidate. But I must admit, in our busy city life, hardly anyone sleeps early. I only know my DS very discipline - must sleep latest but 9.30pm. Since his second sch days, he’s only done a handful of past 10pm project work. But that’s only when he schedule on his late sch day for next sch day. I used to worry how he’s going to managed with 2 compulsory CCAs. But he’s now a pro in time mgt. I hope it carries thro to his adulthood.

Reply to Students asking for school start time to be later on Tue, 17 Aug 2021 07:40:42 GMT

MrsKiasu — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 07:40:42 GMT

Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2034699\" time=\"1629179069\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2034699 time=1629179069 user_id=58173]
Imp75\" post_id=\"2034695\" time=\"1629178573\" user_id=\"2358:
Actually nowadays I don't know how my eldest can sleep at 2am everyday and wake up at 630am every sch day? Is this a very young adult thing to sleep late? I recalled we only started this behaviour when we were staying in the campus in uni.
My sentiments exactly! I don’t get it either. However, on NO school days she sleeps till 12pm. So i think we will benefit from a later start time. It’s the waking up part that can be better managed.[/quote]

The no school days hours very familiar lol.. that's the time for elder gal catch up her sleep.

Reply to Students asking for school start time to be later on Tue, 17 Aug 2021 07:04:06 GMT

Zeal mummy — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 07:04:06 GMT

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Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2034699\" time=\"1629179069\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2034699 time=1629179069 user_id=58173]
Actually nowadays I don't know how my eldest can sleep at 2am everyday and wake up at 630am every sch day? Is this a very young adult thing to sleep late? I recalled we only started this behaviour when we were staying in the campus in uni.
My sentiments exactly! I don’t get it either. However, on NO school days she sleeps till 12pm. So i think we will benefit from a later start time. It’s the waking up part that can be better managed.[/quote]

Reply to Students asking for school start time to be later on Tue, 17 Aug 2021 06:59:52 GMT

Zeal mummy — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 06:59:52 GMT

Estéema\" post_id=\"2034708\" time=\"1629181961\" user_id=\"66413:

Imp75\" post_id=\"2034695\" time=\"1629178573\" user_id=\"2358:
Actually nowadays I don't know how my eldest can sleep at 2am everyday and wake up at 630am every sch day? Is this a very young adult thing to sleep late? I recalled we only started this behaviour when we were staying in the campus in uni.
Sleep debt will come after haunting thro health signs. One of the effects is loss of hair.

Lol. I think they (the kids) will try to sleep in more.. or sleep through their weekends. Lucky haven’t seen many balding kids…

Reply to Students asking for school start time to be later on Tue, 17 Aug 2021 06:58:41 GMT

Zeal mummy — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 06:58:41 GMT

slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2034709\" time=\"1629182453\" user_id=\"28674:

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2034705\" time=\"1629181782\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2034705 time=1629181782 user_id=53606][quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2034699 time=1629179069 user_id=58173]

My sentiments exactly! I don’t get it either. However, on NO school days she sleeps till 12pm. So i think we will benefit from a later start time. It’s the waking up part that can be better managed.
I used to keep those hours when I was studying for exams in secondary school + JC. I’ve always been a night owl, and always preferred to study late at night as the whole house + neighborhood would be extremely quiet. My best brain hours would be during that time. The next morning during assembly would be my snooze time lol.[/quote]

My timing was different - I've always been a morning person. In the weeks before exams when I was doing the most intensive revision, I would sleep by about 9pm and wake at 3.45am and put in a couple of hours study before I needed to get ready for the school bus which came at 6.20am. I liked those hours because it was cool and quiet. On normal schooldays, I would sleep at 11pm and wake at 6am, and wake around 8am in the weekends.

All my life, I have never been able to stay asleep later than about 8.30am, no matter how late I slept the night before. And I don't like to sleep in the afternoons as it makes me very groggy when I wake up.

I think more young people sleep late at night now because they have more entertainment. In my time, TV shut down around 11+ pm (not that I watched TV much), and there was no internet. So I only slept really late if there was a book I couldn't put down.[/quote]I can relate.. it used to be a book or two for us too, staying up late to read. However recent years, lots of time online gaming/browsing/reading/social media and on the phone. Pushing the hours back.. and with the blue light/ sleeping late, they can’t wake up in the mornings! Would be good if start time is 8-9am….

Reply to Students asking for school start time to be later on Tue, 17 Aug 2021 06:40:53 GMT

sharonkhoo — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 06:40:53 GMT

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Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2034699\" time=\"1629179069\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2034699 time=1629179069 user_id=58173]
Actually nowadays I don't know how my eldest can sleep at 2am everyday and wake up at 630am every sch day? Is this a very young adult thing to sleep late? I recalled we only started this behaviour when we were staying in the campus in uni.
My sentiments exactly! I don’t get it either. However, on NO school days she sleeps till 12pm. So i think we will benefit from a later start time. It’s the waking up part that can be better managed.[/quote]

I used to keep those hours when I was studying for exams in secondary school + JC. I’ve always been a night owl, and always preferred to study late at night as the whole house + neighborhood would be extremely quiet. My best brain hours would be during that time. The next morning during assembly would be my snooze time lol.[/quote]My timing was different - I've always been a morning person. In the weeks before exams when I was doing the most intensive revision, I would sleep by about 9pm and wake at 3.45am and put in a couple of hours study before I needed to get ready for the school bus which came at 6.20am. I liked those hours because it was cool and quiet. On normal schooldays, I would sleep at 11pm and wake at 6am, and wake around 8am in the weekends.

All my life, I have never been able to stay asleep later than about 8.30am, no matter how late I slept the night before. And I don't like to sleep in the afternoons as it makes me very groggy when I wake up.

I think more young people sleep late at night now because they have more entertainment. In my time, TV shut down around 11+ pm (not that I watched TV much), and there was no internet. So I only slept really late if there was a book I couldn't put down.

Reply to Students asking for school start time to be later on Tue, 17 Aug 2021 06:32:41 GMT

Estéema — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 06:32:41 GMT

Imp75\" post_id=\"2034695\" time=\"1629178573\" user_id=\"2358:

Actually nowadays I don't know how my eldest can sleep at 2am everyday and wake up at 630am every sch day? Is this a very young adult thing to sleep late? I recalled we only started this behaviour when we were staying in the campus in uni.

Sleep debt will come after haunting thro health signs. One of the effects is loss of hair.

Reply to Students asking for school start time to be later on Tue, 17 Aug 2021 06:29:42 GMT

zac's mum — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 06:29:42 GMT

Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2034699\" time=\"1629179069\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2034699 time=1629179069 user_id=58173]
Imp75\" post_id=\"2034695\" time=\"1629178573\" user_id=\"2358:
Actually nowadays I don't know how my eldest can sleep at 2am everyday and wake up at 630am every sch day? Is this a very young adult thing to sleep late? I recalled we only started this behaviour when we were staying in the campus in uni.
My sentiments exactly! I don’t get it either. However, on NO school days she sleeps till 12pm. So i think we will benefit from a later start time. It’s the waking up part that can be better managed.[/quote]

Reply to Students asking for school start time to be later on Tue, 17 Aug 2021 05:45:36 GMT

Zeal mummy — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 05:45:36 GMT

MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2034549\" time=\"1629075862\" user_id=\"43981:

Achieving 10hr sleep was not easy for us even when younger.

For late owls, can sleep in till lunch. 10 hrs achievable that way

Reply to Students asking for school start time to be later on Tue, 17 Aug 2021 05:44:29 GMT

Zeal mummy — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 05:44:29 GMT

Imp75\" post_id=\"2034695\" time=\"1629178573\" user_id=\"2358:

Actually nowadays I don't know how my eldest can sleep at 2am everyday and wake up at 630am every sch day? Is this a very young adult thing to sleep late? I recalled we only started this behaviour when we were staying in the campus in uni.

My sentiments exactly! I don’t get it either. However, on NO school days she sleeps till 12pm. So i think we will benefit from a later start time. It’s the waking up part that can be better managed.