blesseddad\" post_id=\"2050031\" time=\"1638285707\" user_id=\"6241:

may I know if my child cannot even get a place in the school in phase 2Cs, then what would happen? thanks

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2041220\" time=\"1633570109\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2041220 time=1633570109 user_id=53606]
https://www.99.co/singapore/insider/home-school-distance-new-rule-greater-competition-some-neighbourhoods/?mc_cid=d420989d58&mc_eid=757bcd5eee

This property website has done an analysis/comparison of the “before” and “after” boundaries. Worth taking a look, since not many would have saved/noted the old boundary (unless you were personally interested).

Too bad they only analyzed the popular schools that traditionally ballot <1km. What’s the point in coughing up $$ to buy a property just for a lucky draw ticket? More likely rentals there will boom rather than sales.

I’d have liked to see them report on the schools that traditionally ballot 1-2km, so that buying <1km would give a guaranteed seat. That’s their sales/high commission market right there.[/quote]

CALYNSEA\" post_id=\"2042933\" time=\"1634695332\" user_id=\"181903:

happydaddy32\" post_id=\"2042837\" time=\"1634617963\" user_id=\"192180:

Hi, living within 1km from Gongshang, Tampines North Primary and White Sands Primary.
My kid going MOE K at Gongshang, therefore will be going into 2A for the new rules.
Assuming 2A is unsuccessful, is it worth taking a stab at Gongshang again (given the new rules) at 2C, or straight up go for White Sands / Tampines North?
Gongshang historically ballot less than 1km for SC for 2C.
Tampines North probably can cycle to and fro.
White Sands surely need to take car (I have a car) or public transport.
Between Tampines North and White Sands, which is better? Is there a big diff?

What will you do? Just seeking feedback......

Hi,

Just my 2 cents ...I think you should try Gongshang again at 2C if you are balloted out at 2A and have Angsana Pri as backup in 2CS. At least Angsana is a newly built school with new facilities. I sure if you want to consider Tampines North, it's still available in 2CS so why not try Gongshang again at 2C. Even if you fail again Tampines North is still available.

happydaddy32\" post_id=\"2042837\" time=\"1634617963\" user_id=\"192180:

Hi, living within 1km from Gongshang, Tampines North Primary and White Sands Primary.
My kid going MOE K at Gongshang, therefore will be going into 2A for the new rules.
Assuming 2A is unsuccessful, is it worth taking a stab at Gongshang again (given the new rules) at 2C, or straight up go for White Sands / Tampines North?
Gongshang historically ballot less than 1km for SC for 2C.
Tampines North probably can cycle to and fro.
White Sands surely need to take car (I have a car) or public transport.
Between Tampines North and White Sands, which is better? Is there a big diff?

What will you do? Just seeking feedback......

ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2042676\" time=\"1634463783\" user_id=\"3:

pirate\" post_id=\"2042659\" time=\"1634451421\" user_id=\"66252:

50% by distance and 50% by ballot regardless of distance. :evil:

Forget PV. Only elites have time to PV. Non-elites are too busy trying to put food on the table to PV.

As for secondary school and JC, do reverse. Qualified students with the lowest score gets to pick first. :evil: The best students should be able to thrive anywhere, no?

Whilst I agree that people who have time to do PV will probably have more time than others, I disagree that PV programmes are useless. In fact, I feel that they should expand PV to the point that even if you are alumni, you should at least do some hours as a PV to be sure you are comfortable with the way the school is currently run.

The PV program should be expanded to cover all of Phase 2 (A&B). No one should be given a place in a school just because he/she was in the school many years ago. That \"inheritance\" thinking will only lead to elitism in the long run (if it haven't already). If you are really interested in the school, then show REAL interest by being actually involved in the school.

So if you ask me, MOE should have 4 Phases.
1 - No change. For children with siblings currently in the school.
2 - PVs only (Alumni do 20hrs. Everyone else 40hrs)
3 - For everyone else except for foreigners.
4 - For foreigners.

pirate\" post_id=\"2042659\" time=\"1634451421\" user_id=\"66252:

50% by distance and 50% by ballot regardless of distance. :evil:

Forget PV. Only elites have time to PV. Non-elites are too busy trying to put food on the table to PV.

As for secondary school and JC, do reverse. Qualified students with the lowest score gets to pick first. :evil: The best students should be able to thrive anywhere, no?

floppy\" post_id=\"2042360\" time=\"1634268706\" user_id=\"97579:

CALYNSEA\" post_id=\"2042326\" time=\"1634261203\" user_id=\"181903:

…
And also to want us to believe that every school is a good school then no choosing of school, all go by distance. Maybe only have phase 1. The rest all assigned by govt based on distance. After that when move on to Sec schools no COP and no choosing also, based on distance also, govt will assigned, same for JC.

That's the only way to dilute the so called elite schools and claim that every school is good school. …

The fastest way not to dilute the so called elite schools and concentrate the elites is to implement by distance only.

Property prices for many popular schools are getting beyond the realms of “reasonable-ness” for the average, non-elite Singaporean.

CALYNSEA\" post_id=\"2042326\" time=\"1634261203\" user_id=\"181903:

…
And also to want us to believe that every school is a good school then no choosing of school, all go by distance. Maybe only have phase 1. The rest all assigned by govt based on distance. After that when move on to Sec schools no COP and no choosing also, based on distance also, govt will assigned, same for JC.

That's the only way to dilute the so called elite schools and claim that every school is good school. …

CALYNSEA\" post_id=\"2042326\" time=\"1634261203\" user_id=\"181903:

Actually no amount of changes to policies can satisfy everyone. Bound to have critics here and there.
And also to want us to believe that every school is a good school then no choosing of school, all go by distance. Maybe only have phase 1. The rest all assigned by govt based on distance. After that when move on to Sec schools no COP and no choosing also, based on distance also, govt will assigned, same for JC.

That's the only way to dilute the so called elite schools and claim that every school is good school. If you COP for sec school, you are already differentiating the schools how to claim all schools are good schools and equal? At most you can say no schools are bad schools.

Btw, I'm not saying this is a good. Just saying no matter what policies change there are, there are bound to be people negatively and affected as well as positively affected.

floppy\" post_id=\"2038777\" time=\"1632101425\" user_id=\"97579:

SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2038764\" time=\"1632097196\" user_id=\"188234:

[quote=floppy post_id=2038753 time=1632061447 user_id=97579].....
The most important factor, however, has probably nothing to do with the school itself. The SES of the school population (higher middle income) is above the average of neighbourhood school (which, as the name implies, is really dependent on the neighbourhood). You have more children staying in private property, more parents who are in PMET positions etc and even with the expanded 1km zone, and extra 40 places for 2C, that’s unlikely to change. Research has shown that high SES often result in higher performing children (see research by Singapore Children Society) and I believe that there’s some truth in it. It’s probably due to the higher expectation from parents, more resources available for tuition and enrichment, more time by parents to volunteer / support / supervise etc.

To address SG_KG1 point, all schools have 1 and 2. That’s the baseline expected by MOE. Some SAP / GEP schools have 1, 2 and 3 but lacks 4. When you have a confluence of the above (and there are a number of schools with all 4), I don’t think the result by the school is unexpected.

If one believes the above, I think it is possible that the new registration rules actually increase the concentration of high scorers in certain schools X years down the road. This is neither good nor bad, right nor wrong, and when you read MOE's press release it is clear what attribute they are trying to protect. However, since the distance priority still applies within 2A and 2B , and 2C was/is/always will be who can get within 1 km (for certain schools) economic diversity may drop.

Undoubtedly, there may be some specific instances were the new distance measurement and 2B rules offset this but on average I think it is an interesting question (predicting the future is always hard).

floppy\" post_id=\"2038342\" time=\"1631828807\" user_id=\"97579:

Hendon\" post_id=\"2038341\" time=\"1631827184\" user_id=\"142376:

I think your math needs a relook. The new changes have no impact on PLMGS at 2B or 2C, you took out the reserved places and forgot to put them back in, hence you concluded it will go into balloting.

Thanks. Let me take a look at that. Admittedly did it quite quickly without doing most of the check. Will probably put out something more detailed.

Sasawan\" post_id=\"2039091\" time=\"1632315446\" user_id=\"180231:

i know this is not published but any gurus have a sense of odd for RGPS 2C>2km? before and (forecasted) after the rule change. We have plan for 2B/2C/2CS but would need some advices to help our decision making. Thank you in advance... :thankyou: