Has the purpose for tuition change ??????

Reply to Has the purpose for tuition change ?????? on Wed, 05 Jul 2023 02:02:34 GMT

sunnertime — Wed, 05 Jul 2023 02:02:34 GMT

I agreed communication is the key. Not so much on the homework, goal etc

Hmm the thing is , the tutor shouldn’t put the child down with nasty remarks throughout the session & child cried after each session. & tutor who only want to select student with good academic in order not to spoilt their good record.

Reply to Has the purpose for tuition change ?????? on Tue, 04 Jul 2023 15:10:27 GMT

iwork — Tue, 04 Jul 2023 15:10:27 GMT

I think both parties need to sit down and communicate on the expected outcome of the tuition.

As a tutor, your main objection is to improve the grade, and usually it means to score rather than just pass. Well, unless from the beginning, it was made clear to you that grade is not the concern.

Years ago, I have a primary student who scored 92-96 for Math. But at that time, the T-score required you to score every single point. The kid enjoyed his lesson, learnt more and cleared his concept. But just 2 months before the PSLE, the parents stopped the tuition because his prelim dropped by 2 points.

Then I have another student doing her O-Level E-Math, the mother told me that the objective was to help her understand the concept, motivate her and improve her grade. She was hardworking, and had moved on to complete her Diploma.

So communicate and agree on the KPI.

Reply to Has the purpose for tuition change ?????? on Mon, 03 Jul 2023 13:56:08 GMT

manorway — Mon, 03 Jul 2023 13:56:08 GMT

So far, it is all from the parents’ perspective. I shall offer another perspective. Though I am not a private tutor, I have hired tutors and also personally coached my own loved ones and many kids as guardians.

If it was the PSLE year, should the tutor give less homework? Perhaps the student needed the practices in order to learn the concepts. If a student has very weak foundation and PSLE is just round the corner AND parents have unrealistic expectations, what should tutors do?

So often, parents complained about tutors who are not patient enough, not motivating enough, gave too much homework, too strict and going too fast. Then there are also parents who complained tutors were not strict enough, gave too little homework or going too slow.

Communication is key. Tutors and students also need time to establish rapport and for tutors to know the child’s weaknesses and habits. If we change tutors too often, we are only hurting the child’s learning progress.

Reply to Has the purpose for tuition change ?????? on Mon, 03 Jul 2023 06:27:51 GMT

sunnertime — Mon, 03 Jul 2023 06:27:51 GMT

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I think you have every right to feel angry. A teacher should be happy to teach students who are weaker, since the whole professional outlook is supposed to be one of making every student a better person and help them achieve their targets as they progress in life. A teacher should be an encourager and a life-coach, or why bother? A good tutor is a mentor as well as a teacher, not someone grinding out grades; the worst tutors are the ones who only accept good students and even have some sort of test to see if the student is good enough.

(Disclaimer: I've been a teacher for 30 years. It's not as easy as some people think. But it's also rewarding.)

Thank you the reply.️️
It really sad . 1 good thing is taught my son not everyone is good/nice out there. Told my son this is business so better cherish the teachers that are good & really sincere to help you.

Reply to Has the purpose for tuition change ?????? on Mon, 03 Jul 2023 06:21:52 GMT

autolycus — Mon, 03 Jul 2023 06:21:52 GMT

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Part of me I’m really angry. Like it my kid ‘s fault because he weak in his studies & don’t deserve to get tuition. Tuition now seem to be only for better kids🥲

I think you have every right to feel angry. A teacher should be happy to teach students who are weaker, since the whole professional outlook is supposed to be one of making every student a better person and help them achieve their targets as they progress in life. A teacher should be an encourager and a life-coach, or why bother? A good tutor is a mentor as well as a teacher, not someone grinding out grades; the worst tutors are the ones who only accept good students and even have some sort of test to see if the student is good enough.

(Disclaimer: I've been a teacher for 30 years. It's not as easy as some people think. But it's also rewarding.)

Reply to Has the purpose for tuition change ?????? on Mon, 03 Jul 2023 05:55:49 GMT

sunnertime — Mon, 03 Jul 2023 05:55:49 GMT

Don’t think I can do anything except stop the services.

But I do feel this type of tutor is for the sake to show to other parents her record is good= students go to good school.
Keep emphasis all her students only goes to express stream & 1 student that in NT is not due to her. she taught him after p6. Maybe it a hint from her that she doesn’t want to tutor my kid , and I didn’t get the hint 😵‍💫
Terrible educator .
While we want our child to perform well in school , I really hope no kids especially young ones has to go through negative emotions exp.

Part of me I’m really angry. Like it my kid ‘s fault because he weak in his studies & don’t deserve to get tuition. Tuition now seem to be only for better kids🥲

Reply to Has the purpose for tuition change ?????? on Mon, 26 Jun 2023 00:25:29 GMT

sharonkhoo — Mon, 26 Jun 2023 00:25:29 GMT

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Maybe can complain about the tutor to CASE or MOE?

I doubt CASE or MOE can intervene. The arrangement between parent and tutor is a contractual agreement between the 2 parties, and they need to agree on the terms. Tutoring agreements are often not in writing, so CASE will not be able to do much as it is likely to be a case of mismatched expectations which were not stated clearly, and will become a I-said-she-said I-thought-she-thought argument. And tutors do not come under MOE. Some parents may actually like the tutor's pressure on kids to perform. It would be best if parents talk to the tutors more in-depth in advance to see if their ideas on what the tutoring relationship should be matches. And maybe have a couple of trial sessions at the start.

Of course, if the tutor performs acts which are deemed cruel or abusive under criminal law, then a report to the police is probably the way to go.

Reply to Has the purpose for tuition change ?????? on Sun, 25 Jun 2023 16:01:33 GMT

tinker_bell — Sun, 25 Jun 2023 16:01:33 GMT

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Sorry to hear this.
It terrible how tuition service is changing. I’m angry how the situation is. It like a way to earn money & result is the outcome to show parent . Child is to get result , like a tool.

Maybe can complain about the tutor to CASE or MOE?

Reply to Has the purpose for tuition change ?????? on Sun, 25 Jun 2023 09:28:59 GMT

sunnertime — Sun, 25 Jun 2023 09:28:59 GMT

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sad to hear this. We went thru the same experience when my son was preparing for his PSLE . The tutor was rather strict and flooded him with so much homework that he lost interest in learning. His PSLE results turn out average and now in secondary school . It was a rather bad experience and he would cry and pretended to be sick to avoid going for his tuition.

Sorry to hear this.
It terrible how tuition service is changing. I’m angry how the situation is. It like a way to earn money & result is the outcome to show parent . Child is to get result , like a tool.

Reply to Has the purpose for tuition change ?????? on Sun, 25 Jun 2023 01:40:00 GMT

Wonder-ful — Sun, 25 Jun 2023 01:40:00 GMT

sad to hear this. We went thru the same experience when my son was preparing for his PSLE . The tutor was rather strict and flooded him with so much homework that he lost interest in learning. His PSLE results turn out average and now in secondary school . It was a rather bad experience and he would cry and pretended to be sick to avoid going for his tuition.

Reply to Has the purpose for tuition change ?????? on Sun, 25 Jun 2023 01:12:19 GMT

sharonkhoo — Sun, 25 Jun 2023 01:12:19 GMT

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Yup . Already stop the service.
But I’m wondering if this is okay behaviour from a tutor .. working with kids smart or not , isn’t it require patience if not why in education industry.

In the past, tuition was mainly for the weak students, and most tutors were prepared to coach and teach those students. But nowadays, so many students get tuition that I think some tutors are just academic babysitters - supervising, scolding, nagging etc because the parents pay them to do what the parents are not around to do. Unfortunately, that tutor turned out to be one of these.

Reply to Has the purpose for tuition change ?????? on Sat, 24 Jun 2023 13:50:39 GMT

ChiefKiasu — Sat, 24 Jun 2023 13:50:39 GMT

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Yup . Already stop the service.
But I’m wondering if this is okay behaviour from a tutor .. working with kids smart or not , isn’t it require patience if not why in education industry.

When you start teaching, you will realise quickly that not everybody have the same capability. But then teaching becomes a job, and like all jobs, most people tend to prefer easier ones. So when a student requires more attention than others, it is easy to sigh and complain, as you are going to require more effort.

Is that right? No. Only the best educators are the ones that relish training slow learners. And it is difficult to get these teachers.

Reply to Has the purpose for tuition change ?????? on Sat, 24 Jun 2023 13:22:11 GMT

sunnertime — Sat, 24 Jun 2023 13:22:11 GMT

Yup . Already stop the service.

But I’m wondering if this is okay behaviour from a tutor … working with kids smart or not , isn’t it require patience if not why in education industry.

Reply to Has the purpose for tuition change ?????? on Sat, 24 Jun 2023 06:47:06 GMT

sharonkhoo — Sat, 24 Jun 2023 06:47:06 GMT

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Hihi
Recently I have engaged a home tutor for my child who is academic weak. My child is in upper pri & his marks are usually borderline or failing 40plus/100.

This tutor will keep saying to my child how weak he is , how far behind he is from her other students. Keep talking about how smart her other students , saying that all her students are express stream after PSLE. While marking my boy’s work , she will sigh loudly , keep making comment. My boy is not showing any behaviour , complete the work given . But he is slower in learning , to tk time understand concepts

I’m extremely upset as it bring fear to my child whenever session is coming .

I’m angry that is it tuition is about scoring high mark rather than helping child to understand better.

I hope parents who engage tutors , pls ask your child what happening during the session if no other family adults in that environment . Do not wish any child has to go through this kind of emotional stress .

Not all tutors are the same. This one sounds unsuitable for a child who needs more support and coaching. Perhaps her method works for some students? I would terminate her contract asap and find one who has the right approach for your child.

Reply to Has the purpose for tuition change ?????? on Sat, 24 Jun 2023 01:09:51 GMT

ChiefKiasu — Sat, 24 Jun 2023 01:09:51 GMT

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Hihi
Recently I have engaged a home tutor for my child who is academic weak. My child is in upper pri & his marks are usually borderline or failing 40plus/100.

This tutor will keep saying to my child how weak he is , how far behind he is from her other students. Keep talking about how smart her other students , saying that all her students are express stream after PSLE. While marking my boy’s work , she will sigh loudly , keep making comment. My boy is not showing any behaviour , complete the work given . But he is slower in learning , to tk time understand concepts

I’m extremely upset as it bring fear to my child whenever session is coming .

I’m angry that is it tuition is about scoring high mark rather than helping child to understand better.

I hope parents who engage tutors , pls ask your child what happening during the session if no other family adults in that environment . Do not wish any child has to go through this kind of emotional stress .

If you are not comfortable with the tutor, please go ahead and change the tutor ASAP if your boy is going to be doing his PSLE later this year. Not much time left.