are you aware of their teacher standard, course syllabus, any comments? feedback?

or should I find other specialize Math enrichment school instead.

Thanks

Hi, ICR has something called a pre-reading course which is actually pretty good - it’s not a very popular course and availability is pretty scant as a result but I actually think it is one of the times that ICR really hits a home run in taking a fun and creative approach to learning. However - if you’re focused on more intensive academic stuff it probably isn’t for you and you should likely suspend. Honestly - every teacher I met there loved teaching it though.

Hi my kid is now k1. As she has joined ICR since 2.5 yo, she has already cleared all 3 prereading levels and going to be promoted to reading class next month which I heard is a 1 year course.
After that I heard that there is ICR academy which is for pri 1 onwards.

Would like to check with you if she finishes the reading class and turns k2 next year, there will be a year gap until icr academy would commence? Is she on the right track, or should I suspend her until she is k2 for reading course so that she can transit smoothly to ICR academy in the following year.

Thank you for your kind advice!

Hi,

You tend to see the core of the syllabus being a proprietary technique - for ICR this would be their specific approach to phonics - mixed with an undercurrent of MoE awareness (drawn from ex-MoE teachers and publicly available information) and then bulked out by fairly generic teaching methods found amongst IELTs teachers and taught in western teaching courses.

you wrote they do refer back to the MOE syllabus itself, but it is one of several sources they draw , just very curious, what other sources?
aka which “theme” / school of thought" ? or whatever you can reveal ?

Hi! Sorry for the late reply.

Regarding the MOE syllabus it is purely marketing. Parents want it. In fairness when these centres put their syllabus together they absolutely do refer back to the MOE syllabus itself, but it is one of several sources they draw from and frankly put it is very, very diluted.

The ICR reading content is very very good for actually getting your kid to read. If you have a kid in n2, k1, k2 I absolutely recommend their pre-reading 2 and 3 and reading programs - though I don’t think you necessarily need the full reading programme depending on your kid. However their primary is… bad. They’ve made improvements, but I don’t rate it well as all. If you put your kid into the reading programme I would recommend you take them out before they hit the primary 1 program. Their pre-primary programme is kind of a placeholder for advanced kids who aren’t actually p1 yet to get your fees, BUT I actually kind of think the programme is accidentally pretty good if you have a teacher who is interested in their work.

I can’t speak directly to Learninglab, but I know that Lcentral has a reputation for heavily burned out teachers - so keep that in mind.

No, it’s not true for English tuition centres like I Can Read. They don’t have the stats to prove this and I can tell you for a fact their rates are nowhere near that good. HOWEVER - some of the more selective specialised ones for older kids do.

No, and yes. It’s a complete roll of the dice - some teachers will go the extra mile, some will coast through with no effort. I don’t know if this is PC or not but in my experience Filipino teachers at these establishments are usually excellent.

Almost none of the big chain stores can boast top scholars - most of them are westerners on a short contracts, people trying to break into the international school system or MOE teachers who burned out of MOE’s toxic work place.

Hihi ICRInsider,

thank you for sharing some INSIDER Industry Trade Secrets.

Many questions to ask, hope you can address as much as you can based on your experience.

1. Why do tutiton centers always say we follow “MOE syllabus” when clearly they are not?
   the atas ones, will actually teach you things that is not “inside MOE” syallabus / exams, that is why the students can score well / excee cos they know they beat the system cos they “learn outside the box”

2. What is the Key Difference between I CAN READ vs Lcentral Vs The Learning Lab for a 6 year old and Primary 1-2 student. (2 diff case study)

What are the pros and cons of the above three centers?

I CAN READ - means the students can only read, not write ? no do comprehension / no gammer
vs Lcentral / LLB ?

3. I see these Enrichment center always say 90% score A / better grades, is that really real? they got evidence to proof?

4. I see “some enrichment class” say the teachers always go the extra mile, like use additional material on top of the tution center material
   really so good? so dedicated?

why need to use additional material / sources if the tution center already provide “best in class / industry” material

so the teacher so smart? can improve what the “course director” who has advance degree (MBA / Masters / PhD degree)

if really so smart, why the tution center no take note of the teacher suggestions and improve the course material for the next year?

5. I see some tution center “advertise” their teachers are ASEAN / MOE / whatever Scholars, really true? really so good?
   what if so Saki, study so much still want to be tutiton center teacher ?
   why no contiune governement job / or join PAP?
   dont tell me burn up, cannot tahan government job, ?

hope this is a healthy discussion, as i think some of the above questions are what some parents wana ask but dont have the avenue or people who dare to reply.

cheers and i hope to hear from you (and any members ) soon

ciao