<![CDATA[PSLE 2010 and Sec 1 2011 School Selection and COP]]>Hi All Parents of PSLE 2010


Although there is some info (only Bottom COP) available here for 2009 PSLE student going to Sec 1 in 2010, but I try to provide a little more here.

Additional info are,
1. Sort to Schools into 4 Tiers based on Bottom COP, excluding those without info
2. Top COP
3. Delta Marks between \"2009 PSLE 2010 Sec 1\" and 2008 PSLE 2009 Sec 1\"

Top COP is to check if you child will be on the Top few in that school based on PSLE result.

Due to the less difficult PSLE compare to 2009, may need to adjust the delta marks based on 2008 PSLE 2009 Sec 1.

Hope it is useful.

Click picture to enlarge

2009 PSLE 2010 Sec 1
http://postimage.org/image/31f9xorqc/

2010 PSLE 2011 Sec 1
http://postimage.org/image/305sonmkk/

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/14960/psle-2010-and-sec-1-2011-school-selection-and-copRSS for NodeSun, 26 Apr 2026 22:08:31 GMTThu, 21 Oct 2010 03:31:38 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to PSLE 2010 and Sec 1 2011 School Selection and COP on Wed, 22 Jun 2011 00:58:57 GMT]]>hi, thanks for the link..


i guess what i was looking for was you know.. whether the primary school did better than national average.. perhaps by subject.. % of quality passes.. personally, i feel that it would provide a more holistic picture of the average performance of the p6 pupils.. i know certain schools provide that data but most of them are outdated or some don't even put them up..
thanks again ya.. 😄

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/452476https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/452476Wed, 22 Jun 2011 00:58:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PSLE 2010 and Sec 1 2011 School Selection and COP on Tue, 21 Jun 2011 05:16:02 GMT]]>

verykiasu2010:
jtoh:

[quote=\"phankao\"]
I am surprised to see that there are students with 273 opting for St Nics'!

Probably an old girl? Many girls from an affiliated primary school form such an attachment they want to stay on in their secondary school.

from the MOE data, she is from non-affiliated category

the median for non-affiliated is 252, while the medial for affiliated is 236[/quote]Maybe it's her dream school?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/451530https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/451530Tue, 21 Jun 2011 05:16:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PSLE 2010 and Sec 1 2011 School Selection and COP on Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:41:32 GMT]]>

wimdils:
hi, i dunno if i am in the correct forum.. but can someone direct me to where i can find school's psle scores.. thanks..

Wonder if this is useful to you?

http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/content/3-year-official-psle-cop-2009-2011-secondary-1-intake

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/449343https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/449343Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:41:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PSLE 2010 and Sec 1 2011 School Selection and COP on Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:20:41 GMT]]>

wimdils:
hi, i dunno if i am in the correct forum.. but can someone direct me to where i can find school's psle scores.. thanks..

herein in this thread you can find the cut off points of most secondary schools for the PSLE score needed to enter the school

as for what are the PSLE scores achieved by all the primary schools, it is hard to come by...you need to call the school to find out

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/449323https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/449323Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:20:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PSLE 2010 and Sec 1 2011 School Selection and COP on Fri, 17 Jun 2011 01:55:52 GMT]]>hi, i dunno if i am in the correct forum… but can someone direct me to where i can find school’s psle scores… thanks…

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/448869https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/448869Fri, 17 Jun 2011 01:55:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PSLE 2010 and Sec 1 2011 School Selection and COP on Mon, 28 Feb 2011 13:53:27 GMT]]>

JonC:
3 times very lucky.


Last year all classes almost everyday day including Sat except Tue (Staff Meeting).

Secondary, except for sports and music class, the rest, they said are mixed ability class. I know of a few CH boys with same score as my boy all over it other classes. My boy's class also got students from other Pri Schools (did ask them if they are DSA, if not DSA, must at least be above 247).
Among the boys, they say 1/6 is the best class? Even my p6 boy knows about it.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/369494https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/369494Mon, 28 Feb 2011 13:53:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PSLE 2010 and Sec 1 2011 School Selection and COP on Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:30:13 GMT]]>3 times very lucky.


Last year all classes almost everyday day including Sat except Tue (Staff Meeting).

Secondary, except for sports and music class, the rest, they said are mixed ability class. I know of a few CH boys with same score as my boy all over it other classes. My boy’s class also got students from other Pri Schools (did ask them if they are DSA, if not DSA, must at least be above 247).

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/369451https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/369451Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:30:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PSLE 2010 and Sec 1 2011 School Selection and COP on Sun, 27 Feb 2011 16:29:01 GMT]]>

JonC:
Oh, maybe I can't say much about St Nic as I have no dd studying there, so you must be correct.


Not sure how CH Sec manage the students, maybe you know better. I will probably find out more in years to come.

But CH Pri, 2010 P6 cohort, I know all the P6 teachers from the 1st to last class and the number of after school hours they have put in, some even during holidays and weekends just weeks after Prelim and before PSLE just to coach and make sure everyone even in the weaker class will make it and even have good or better grades than their Prelim.

Hope they will do the same for the 2011 P6 cohort.
I certainly don't know better about CH sec, since I don't have any child there. I do know that they stream the boys from sec 1 itself - surely you know that. I'm not sure how that impacts on the type of teachers assigned to the classes.

Yeah, my p6 this year (2011 cohort) having a \"wonderful\" time with suppl classes 3x/week and rather \"kiasu\" teachers.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/368922https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/368922Sun, 27 Feb 2011 16:29:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PSLE 2010 and Sec 1 2011 School Selection and COP on Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:59:38 GMT]]>Oh, maybe I can’t say much about St Nic as I have no dd studying there, so you must be correct.


Not sure how CH Sec manage the students, maybe you know better. I will probably find out more in years to come.

But CH Pri, 2010 P6 cohort, I know all the P6 teachers from the 1st to last class and the number of after school hours they have put in, some even during holidays and weekends just weeks after Prelim and before PSLE just to coach and make sure everyone even in the weaker class will make it and even have good or better grades than their Prelim.

Hope they will do the same for the 2011 P6 cohort.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/368830https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/368830Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:59:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PSLE 2010 and Sec 1 2011 School Selection and COP on Sun, 27 Feb 2011 07:30:45 GMT]]>

JonC:
Looking at the top does not mean anything, it maybe just 2 or sometimes 1 hit the top. Should also look at Mean and Median where the bulk of students are.


St Nic
Non Affiliation
Upper 273
Mean 253
Median 252
Lower 249

Looking at Mean 253 and Median 252 where the bulk of students are, it is skew towards the lower of 249 which means more student are in the 25x range, fewer in 26x range and even lesser in 27x range.

St Nic
Affiliation
Upper 261
Mean 236
Median 236
Lower 211

Looking at this, at least it is almost in the middle.

So if 4 years later they can produce good result like they did last year, it means the school and teachers are really good.
That's very true, and St Nics does take in affiliated girls with much lower scores than Cath High. Altho' the 270+ is still quite amazing.

I must say though that for St Nic's, they do sadly concentrate and push the better classes more. I still remember when my dd was in lower secondary and in the lower end classes. They had rather uninspiring and many relief teachers.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/368742https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/368742Sun, 27 Feb 2011 07:30:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PSLE 2010 and Sec 1 2011 School Selection and COP on Sun, 27 Feb 2011 07:21:42 GMT]]>[quote=\"JonC\"]Looking at the top does not mean anything, it maybe just 2 or sometimes 1 hit the top. Should also look at Mean and Median where the bulk of students are.


St Nic
Non Affiliation
Upper 273
Mean 253
Median 252
Lower 249

Looking at Mean 253 and Median 252 where the bulk of students are, it is skew towards the lower of 249 which means more student are in the 25x range, fewer in 26x range and even lesser in 27x range.

St Nic
Affiliation
Upper 261
Mean 236
Median 236
Lower 211

Looking at this, at least it is almost in the middle.

So if 4 years later they can produce good result like they did last year, it means the school and teachers are really good.[/quote]

that is exactly why the school is popular

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/368739https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/368739Sun, 27 Feb 2011 07:21:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PSLE 2010 and Sec 1 2011 School Selection and COP on Sun, 27 Feb 2011 05:09:17 GMT]]>Looking at the top does not mean anything, it maybe just 2 or sometimes 1 hit the top. Should also look at Mean and Median where the bulk of students are.


St Nic
Non Affiliation
Upper 273
Mean 253
Median 252
Lower 249

Looking at Mean 253 and Median 252 where the bulk of students are, it is skew towards the lower of 249 which means more student are in the 25x range, fewer in 26x range and even lesser in 27x range.

St Nic
Affiliation
Upper 261
Mean 236
Median 236
Lower 211

Looking at this, at least it is almost in the middle.

So if 4 years later they can produce good result like they did last year, it means the school and teachers are really good.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/368688https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/368688Sun, 27 Feb 2011 05:09:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PSLE 2010 and Sec 1 2011 School Selection and COP on Thu, 24 Feb 2011 02:22:34 GMT]]>

phankao:
jtoh:

[quote=\"verykiasu2010\"]
from the MOE data, she is from non-affiliated category

Maybe she lives near St Nick's then. But yes, interesting in that she could have chosen any school of her choice, particularly an IP school.

Yes, I am surprised bc of the non-affiliation status. I have seen boys with 260+ going to schools like CHS sec. I met one mom and asked why her boy chose to go there, and she said bc the PSLE score is \"fluke\", continued by saying that her boy cannot survive in pressure-cooker like RI . But then I find that 270+ is really unusual to be in this tranche of schools. I mean, there are so many out there who are appealing like crazy just to get into the top IP schools right? Those whose PSLE scores fall just below the COP, and then there are these students who don't mind doing O-levels. ;D[/quote]This is not quite surprising for me. Saint Nic, cat High always have a few high score for their intake. Just last year or the year before, the highest score for saint Nick was 281? and Cat High always has one or two 270, I think even in the present 4-year data at MOE site. VS also has a fair share of such highs core students, I think 270 or 271, is in the 4 year MOE data too. Crescent Girls too has. Cat High has produced President scholar for two consecutive years...so they do have some good potential intake once in awhile. Maybe that is why they are the latest groups of schools offered IP status by MOE.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/366483https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/366483Thu, 24 Feb 2011 02:22:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PSLE 2010 and Sec 1 2011 School Selection and COP on Thu, 24 Feb 2011 02:01:27 GMT]]>Perhaps they’re thinking that getting excellent 'O’s and then later the 'A’s is better than just getting the 'A’s?


Some people assume that the quality of the 'O’s are also important for uni placements.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/366464https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/366464Thu, 24 Feb 2011 02:01:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PSLE 2010 and Sec 1 2011 School Selection and COP on Thu, 24 Feb 2011 00:52:11 GMT]]>There is also a segment of the population who are not secure with the IP system of not sitting for the O levels. Some parents/kids prefer that their children have an O level cert just in case they don’t do well at the A levels. I suppose these are more likely to select a good four year secondary school over an IP school.

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jtoh:
verykiasu2010:

[quote=\"jtoh\"]
Probably an old girl? Many girls from an affiliated primary school form such an attachment they want to stay on in their secondary school.

from the MOE data, she is from non-affiliated category

Maybe she lives near St Nick's then. But yes, interesting in that she could have chosen any school of her choice, particularly an IP school.[/quote]Yes, I am surprised bc of the non-affiliation status. I have seen boys with 260+ going to schools like CHS sec. I met one mom and asked why her boy chose to go there, and she said bc the PSLE score is \"fluke\", continued by saying that her boy cannot survive in pressure-cooker like RI . But then I find that 270+ is really unusual to be in this tranche of schools. I mean, there are so many out there who are appealing like crazy just to get into the top IP schools right? Those whose PSLE scores fall just below the COP, and then there are these students who don't mind doing O-levels. ;D

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/366393https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/366393Thu, 24 Feb 2011 00:47:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PSLE 2010 and Sec 1 2011 School Selection and COP on Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:50:14 GMT]]>

ksasalways:
jtoh:

[quote=\"verykiasu2010\"]
from the MOE data, she is from non-affiliated category

Maybe she lives near St Nick's then. But yes, interesting in that she could have chosen any school of her choice, particularly an IP school.

Well, maybe she is considering between being \"a big fish in a small pond\" or \"a small fish in a big pond\"... ...relevant and I thought everyone should think hard about this based on our understanding of our kid.[/quote]I agree. Depends on the personality of the kid.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/366350https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/366350Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:50:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PSLE 2010 and Sec 1 2011 School Selection and COP on Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:49:57 GMT]]>

ksasalways:
jtoh:

[quote=\"verykiasu2010\"]
from the MOE data, she is from non-affiliated category

Maybe she lives near St Nick's then. But yes, interesting in that she could have chosen any school of her choice, particularly an IP school.

Well, maybe she is considering between being \"a big fish in a small pond\" or \"a small fish in a big pond\"... ...relevant and I thought everyone should think hard about this based on our understanding of our kid.[/quote]haha, may be four years later you will read that she scored 9A1 for O Levels

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/366349https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/366349Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:49:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PSLE 2010 and Sec 1 2011 School Selection and COP on Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:41:20 GMT]]>

jtoh:
verykiasu2010:

[quote=\"jtoh\"]
Probably an old girl? Many girls from an affiliated primary school form such an attachment they want to stay on in their secondary school.

from the MOE data, she is from non-affiliated category

Maybe she lives near St Nick's then. But yes, interesting in that she could have chosen any school of her choice, particularly an IP school.[/quote]Well, maybe she is considering between being \"a big fish in a small pond\" or \"a small fish in a big pond\"... ...relevant and I thought everyone should think hard about this based on our understanding of our kid.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/366345https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/366345Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:41:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PSLE 2010 and Sec 1 2011 School Selection and COP on Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:33:59 GMT]]>

verykiasu2010:
jtoh:

[quote=\"phankao\"]
I am surprised to see that there are students with 273 opting for St Nics'!

Probably an old girl? Many girls from an affiliated primary school form such an attachment they want to stay on in their secondary school.

from the MOE data, she is from non-affiliated category[/quote]Maybe she lives near St Nick's then. But yes, interesting in that she could have chosen any school of her choice, particularly an IP school.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/366342https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/366342Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:33:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PSLE 2010 and Sec 1 2011 School Selection and COP on Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:32:12 GMT]]>

jtoh:
phankao:


I am surprised to see that there are students with 273 opting for St Nics'!

Probably an old girl? Many girls from an affiliated primary school form such an attachment they want to stay on in their secondary school.

from the MOE data, she is from non-affiliated category

the median for non-affiliated is 252, while the medial for affiliated is 236

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/366340https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/366340Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:32:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PSLE 2010 and Sec 1 2011 School Selection and COP on Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:30:06 GMT]]>

phankao:

I am surprised to see that there are students with 273 opting for St Nics'!
Probably an old girl? Many girls from an affiliated primary school form such an attachment they want to stay on in their secondary school.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/366339https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/366339Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:30:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PSLE 2010 and Sec 1 2011 School Selection and COP on Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:51:42 GMT]]>

verykiasu2010:

because when they are all mixed up in sec one in the school they are posted to, some will slack some will work hard....so those at the so-called \"bottom half\" of the cohort may very well rise to the top when the are awaken to their ability and the thrill of achieving good results while those used to be higher performer may have suffered a burn out at PSLE.....

as along as you are in your dream school, you are good there. just work hard. everybody has the same opportunity in the school
I am surprised to see that there are students with 273 opting for St Nics'!

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/366300https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/366300Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:51:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to PSLE 2010 and Sec 1 2011 School Selection and COP on Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:49:49 GMT]]>

Pen88n:
verykiasu2010:

[quote=\"Pen88n\"]Just curious, is the mean and median presented in the MOE website? I have seen the S1 posting booklet before, don't remember seeing the mean and median in there :?


not in the big book, but on the web with 4 years' record, school by school

what parents can do it short list the sec schools in mind, go moe website and extract those data on an Excel sheet and study them and start to rank them by score, by distance, go visit them, talk to their students, try the bus journey etc....in other words, do a complete due diligence ....

Thanks VeryKiasu2010!

Now I see.....No wonder I kept hearing people talk about mean and median. Also that it is a good gauge if the kid match up to the school standard or at the bottom of the cohort. It is something to pay attention to![/quote]yes and no

because when they are all mixed up in sec one in the school they are posted to, some will slack some will work hard....so those at the so-called \"bottom half\" of the cohort may very well rise to the top when the are awaken to their ability and the thrill of achieving good results while those used to be higher performer may have suffered a burn out at PSLE.....

as along as you are in your dream school, you are good there. just work hard. everybody has the same opportunity in the school

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