<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Is swimming certificate compulsory at Sec level ?]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Hi,<br /><br /><br />I was told by my friends recently that MOE new policy now is at secondary level, every child must have at least a Bronze cert in swimming, otherwise, they will need to undergo compulsory swimming lessons.  <br /><br />My friends also feel it’s better to get a cert b4 entering sec sch, as going for swimming lessons at sec 1 will be hectic (need to cope with many subjects) and troublesome (own transport to swimming complex), and may be bad for child’s morale esp if most of his classmates need not attend.<br /><br />Anyone with can verify this info and share experience ?</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/1513/is-swimming-certificate-compulsory-at-sec-level</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2026 14:51:57 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/1513.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 06:25:42 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Is swimming certificate compulsory at Sec level ? on Wed, 08 Nov 2023 05:42:48 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Not compulsory. But if your kid is boy(Singaporean or PR) then will be advice them at least to get the stage 3 for NS.<br /><br /><br />The following is the stage 3 details.<br /><a href="https://www.sgsinkorswim.com/swim-safer-stage-3">https://www.sgsinkorswim.com/swim-safer-stage-3</a></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2122287</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2122287</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[SGSinkOrSwim]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2023 05:42:48 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Is swimming certificate compulsory at Sec level ? on Wed, 08 Nov 2023 05:40:24 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>phtthp\" post_id=\"2015442\" time=\"1613879247\" user_id=\"35251:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><br />Are there female swimming instructor, teaching Secondary school girls group swimming ?</blockquote></blockquote>Usually will be male coach due to not enough female coaches.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2122286</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2122286</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[SGSinkOrSwim]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2023 05:40:24 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Is swimming certificate compulsory at Sec level ? on Sun, 21 Feb 2021 03:47:27 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Are there female swimming instructor, teaching Secondary school girls group swimming ?</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2015442</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2015442</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[phtthp]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2021 03:47:27 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Is swimming certificate compulsory at Sec level ? on Thu, 29 Jan 2015 09:24:05 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">My boy made it through sec sch with a swimming cert…hmm</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1458964</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1458964</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[rachels1982]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2015 09:24:05 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Is swimming certificate compulsory at Sec level ? on Thu, 07 Aug 2014 03:35:52 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Thanks for the information.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1354864</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1354864</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Blue Pearl]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2014 03:35:52 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Is swimming certificate compulsory at Sec level ? on Thu, 27 Feb 2014 00:37:39 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Hi buds,<br /><br /><br />Thank you for your information &amp; clarification <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f642.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--slightly_smiling_face" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":)" alt="🙂" /> <br /></p><blockquote><b>buds:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><br />Hi i3mum, in my DD's sec sch they requested for minimum Level 3.<br /><br />Students without that minimum level are encouraged to join school's initiative with the coaches from neighbourhood pool. The neighbourhood pool not very near but all of them will walk together to the pool. Without Level 3, the child may not be allowed to join certain camps or trips organized by the school as they require all their students' competency level to be standard. Then again, different schools may have different protocols.</blockquote></blockquote><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1224906</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1224906</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[i3mum]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2014 00:37:39 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Is swimming certificate compulsory at Sec level ? on Wed, 26 Feb 2014 16:35:20 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>i3mum:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">Hi,<br /><br /><br />Can anyone clarify on which level is compulsory at sec level?</blockquote></blockquote>Hi i3mum, in my DD's sec sch they requested for minimum Level 3.<br /><br />Students without that minimum level are encouraged to join school's initiative with the coaches from neighbourhood pool. The neighbourhood pool not very near but all of them will walk together to the pool. Without Level 3, the child may not be allowed to join certain camps or trips organized by the school as they require all their students' competency level to be standard. Then again, different schools may have different protocols.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1224825</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1224825</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[buds]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2014 16:35:20 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Is swimming certificate compulsory at Sec level ? on Wed, 26 Feb 2014 07:38:30 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Nice post</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1224305</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1224305</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron_08]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2014 07:38:30 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Is swimming certificate compulsory at Sec level ? on Mon, 24 Feb 2014 05:22:09 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Hi,<br /><br /><br />Can anyone clarify on which level is compulsory at sec level?</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1222284</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1222284</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[i3mum]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2014 05:22:09 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Is swimming certificate compulsory at Sec level ? on Mon, 12 Mar 2012 00:59:50 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>bicky:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">Hihi,<br /><br /><br />My gal swimming coach said there are many exam level for the kids. My gal has been learning 2.5yrs. Her coach is only registrating her for level 3 (1 level below Bronze) this Jun. Hasnit been too long? My gal is able to swim very independently.<br /><br />Can I have some of your advice pls. Thanks !</blockquote></blockquote>Hi Bicky,<br /><br />I am a swimming coach and the attached link shows an article that I have written for my students and their parents to understand more about the Swimsafer test and timeline. It is based on my teaching methods. Perhaps you might find it useful as a guide. Cheers<br /><br /><a href="https://www.facebook.com/#!/note.php?note_id=234565656579602">https://www.facebook.com/#!/note.php?note_id=234565656579602</a><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/727923</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/727923</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bubblesnsplashes]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 00:59:50 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Is swimming certificate compulsory at Sec level ? on Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:33:16 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Hihi,<br /><br /><br />My gal swimming coach said there are many exam level for the kids. My gal has been learning 2.5yrs. Her coach is only registrating her for level 3 (1 level below Bronze) this Jun. Hasnit been too long? My gal is able to swim very independently.<br /><br />Can I have some of your advice pls. Thanks !</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/727720</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/727720</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bicky]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:33:16 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Is swimming certificate compulsory at Sec level ? on Sat, 19 Dec 2009 15:13:42 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Swimtutor:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>Yong HL:</b><p>what if the kid had bad eczema?<br /><br />any idea whether she/he can be exempted from the compulsory swimming lesson with a letter from doctor/parents? or it depends on school policy?  :?</p></blockquote></blockquote>Usually can be exempted from swimming lesson if there is a letter from doctor. Cos those who has eczema MUST avoid swimming in chlorinated water. <br /><br />Such kid must shower immmediately after swimming or even just a dip on the chlorinated pool. Use screenblock if necessary and they must avoid hot sun too. Hope this help.<p></p></blockquote>Just to share:<br />My boy has ezcema and he's attending swimming lessons. As his lessons are at night, we do not apply sunblock for him.<br /><br />Instead, we apply a barrier cream for him. Doctor recommended Physiogel CREAM to be applied half hour before he gets in the pool. To be extra KS, I also applied a goat's milk based diaper rash cream on the ezcema prone areas (armpits and neck).<br /><br />As the pool's shower is not warm water, we normally wait till we get home to bathe him (just wipe and change at pool). He did not have any flare up after starting swimming classes.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/90827</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/90827</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[mrswongtuition]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 15:13:42 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Is swimming certificate compulsory at Sec level ? on Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:37:23 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>thanks swim tutor <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f642.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--slightly_smiling_face" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":)" alt="🙂" /></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/90758</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/90758</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Yong HL]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:37:23 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Is swimming certificate compulsory at Sec level ? on Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:43:17 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Yong HL:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">what if the kid had bad eczema?<br /><br />any idea whether she/he can be exempted from the compulsory swimming lesson with a letter from doctor/parents? or it depends on school policy?  :?</blockquote></blockquote>Usually can be exempted from swimming lesson if there is a letter from doctor. Cos those who has eczema MUST avoid swimming in chlorinated water. <br /><br />Such kid must shower immmediately after swimming or even just a dip on the chlorinated pool. Use screenblock if necessary and they must avoid hot sun too. Hope this help.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/90535</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/90535</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Swimtutor]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:43:17 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Is swimming certificate compulsory at Sec level ? on Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:39:42 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>what if the kid had bad eczema?<br /><br />any idea whether she/he can be exempted from the compulsory swimming lesson with a letter from doctor/parents? or it depends on school policy?  :?</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/90327</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/90327</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Yong HL]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:39:42 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Is swimming certificate compulsory at Sec level ? on Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:32:22 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Way2GO:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">Teach your children to swim.<br /><br />I can understand garmen thinking esp for boys having to go thro NS.<br />If the boys don't clear NAPFA and knows how to swim b4 they serve NS in combat vocations - they will suffer more.<br />1st sit:<br />When I was a trainee in NS, I didn't know how to swim properly.   In one of the training session to test your confidence, each of us in No. 4 dress with boots was made to go up the 10m platform to go jump into the pool.<br />Me at 10m platform looking down: \"I can't swim\"<br />Instructor: \"jump!\"<br />Silly me buay kia si just jump.   Thought I would drown on the way down , but thank GOD Archimedes Principle n natural buoyancy works.<br /><br />2nd sit - river crossing:<br />We were being trained for river crossing using a rope across the river n using an infantry assault bridge.   Before this exercise, we were instructed to get into the river with SBO n rifle and just float  about.   Trust me, it's scary if one can't swim cos' u are thinking all this weight is gonna drag me down.<br />With the assault bridge, there is no lifeline or guyline - and u are probably thinking what if I misstep and fall into the river.<br /><br />So..please teach your children to swim.</blockquote></blockquote>heng ah, ah boy already got his bronze. so scary for the non-swimmers who cannot  :siam:<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/90319</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/90319</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[mathsparks]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:32:22 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Is swimming certificate compulsory at Sec level ? on Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:10:54 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Why would u want to do that?<br /><br />One normally has to pass from one certified level to the next higher level.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/90297</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/90297</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Way2GO]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:10:54 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Is swimming certificate compulsory at Sec level ? on Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:04:53 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Can a child bypass Bronze exam and go to the next level like Silver exam? Thanks.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/90290</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/90290</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[summer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:04:53 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Is swimming certificate compulsory at Sec level ? on Fri, 18 Dec 2009 00:41:58 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>amylqf:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">If the child can swim well, must the child have to hire a coach in order to get those cert?<br /><br /><br />what is the registration procedure and requirement if we don't go through the coach. I supposed it should be cheaper and efficient that way as long as we get the exam requirement right (where to get this information? from particular website?)</blockquote></blockquote>Hi amylgf,<br /><br />Usually, the child will still need a certified coach to get those cert. In the test form, there is a portion that will need to be signed by the coach or the parent. Although, it is stated that the parent can sign to recommend that the kid can go for the test, some test centres are quite particular and request that only a certified coach can sign the portion. <br /><br />In many public swimming pools, the child is also not allowed to practise with pyjamas on their own with the parents. They can only practise the pyjamas portion under the supervision of coach. This is due to safety reason and I have seen a number of life guards enforcing this. <br /><br />Thus, the child will not be able to practise for the test.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/90080</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/90080</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bubblesnsplashes]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 00:41:58 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Is swimming certificate compulsory at Sec level ? on Fri, 18 Dec 2009 00:37:00 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>25hourmaid:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>Hifive:</b><p>Hi<br /><br /><br />Pls advise on the average, how long must a child (about 10 yr old) learn to swim in order to be eligible to take the test to attain the bronze cert?<br /><br />Thks in advance.</p></blockquote></blockquote>I think it depends on how fast the child learns, one child can take 6-8 months to achieve that, another can take one year or even more, so all depends on how fast the child learns and picks up.<p></p></blockquote>Hi Hifive,<br /><br />I do agree with 25hourmaid. It depends on the child. In my experience, on average for 10 year old kid, it will take about 6months to 9 months. This is provided that the kid is not water phobic and is reasonably fit. The basic criteria for passing the test is that the student would need to have sufficient strength and endurance.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/90079</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/90079</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bubblesnsplashes]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 00:37:00 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Is swimming certificate compulsory at Sec level ? on Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:57:00 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Hifive:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">Hi<br /><br /><br />Pls advise on the average, how long must a child (about 10 yr old) learn to swim in order to be eligible to take the test to attain the bronze cert?<br /><br />Thks in advance.</blockquote></blockquote>I think it depends on how fast the child learns, one child can take 6-8 months to achieve that, another can take one year or even more, so all depends on how fast the child learns and picks up.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/90067</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/90067</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[corneyAmber]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:57:00 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Is swimming certificate compulsory at Sec level ? on Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:41:28 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Way2GO:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><br />So..please teach your children to swim.</blockquote></blockquote>Yes I agree swimming is very important.  Even a poolside party can be potentially dangerous and a moment of negligence can cause a lifetime of pain.  So equip the kids to help themselves.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/90054</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/90054</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[corneyAmber]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:41:28 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Is swimming certificate compulsory at Sec level ? on Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:35:11 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Teach your children to swim.<br /><br />I can understand garmen thinking esp for boys having to go thro NS.<br />If the boys don’t clear NAPFA and knows how to swim b4 they serve NS in combat vocations - they will suffer more.<br />1st sit:<br />When I was a trainee in NS, I didn’t know how to swim properly.   In one of the training session to test your confidence, each of us in No. 4 dress with boots was made to go up the 10m platform to go jump into the pool.<br />Me at 10m platform looking down: "I can’t swim"<br />Instructor: "jump!"<br />Silly me buay kia si just jump.   Thought I would drown on the way down , but thank GOD Archimedes Principle n natural buoyancy works.<br /><br />2nd sit - river crossing:<br />We were being trained for river crossing using a rope across the river n using an infantry assault bridge.   Before this exercise, we were instructed to get into the river with SBO n rifle and just float  about.   Trust me, it’s scary if one can’t swim cos’ u are thinking all this weight is gonna drag me down.<br />With the assault bridge, there is no lifeline or guyline - and u are probably thinking what if I misstep and fall into the river.<br /><br />So…please teach your children to swim.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/90052</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/90052</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Way2GO]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:35:11 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Is swimming certificate compulsory at Sec level ? on Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:16:23 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>amylqf:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">If the child can swim well, must the child have to hire a coach in order to get those cert?<br /><br /><br />what is the registration procedure and requirement if we don't go through the coach. I supposed it should be cheaper and efficient that way as long as we get the exam requirement right (where to get this information? from particular website?)</blockquote></blockquote>This is an example of requirement for bronze test. <br /><br />Objectives<br />Enhance water confidence of swimmers<br />Learn about water safety and water survival so that swimmers can save themselves and prevent accidents in water<br /><br />Test Content<br />Straddle/tuck jump from side pool<br />Swim 50m in pyjamas<br />Drown proof 1 minute<br />Tread water 3 minutes<br />Undress pyjamas in water and make float<br />Swim 400m using any strokes, with 1 surface dive and<br />swimming at least 5m submerged<br />Climb out from deep end without assistance/steps<br /><br />If your kid can swim arleady, then training with coach will learn pyjamas tricks which is required for the test.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/90049</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/90049</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[corneyAmber]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:16:23 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>