Explosion, debris from jet : Qantas Airbus 380

Reply to Explosion, debris from jet : Qantas Airbus 380 on Wed, 11 May 2011 06:45:11 GMT

verykiasu2010 — Wed, 11 May 2011 06:45:11 GMT

http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/World/Story/STIStory_667383.html

SYDNEY - A QANTAS flight from Auckland to Melbourne was forced to turn back after a suspected lightning strike on Wednesday, but landed safely with no damage or injuries to passengers.

The airline said the captain of the Boeing 737-800 made the decision in the interests of safely, even though the aircraft is built to withstand such an impact.

'The pilot suspected that the plane had been hit by lightning. It was quite early in the flight so he turned back,' a Qantas spokesman said. 'There was no damage and he made a normal landing. The aircraft is undergoing normal checks.'

It was the latest in a series of recent incidents involving Australia's national airline. Last month, another flight from Auckland requested a 'priority landing' at Sydney airport after experiencing a fuel system problem.

It followed a Perth-bound plane returning to Adelaide in March after smoke entered the cabin from a malfunctioning oven. This came just days after a cockpit fire caused by an electrical fault forced a Qantas Airbus A330-200 bound for Manila from Sydney to make an unscheduled landing in Cairns.

The latest scare came as engineers at the airline prepare to stop work for one hour on Friday after negotiations over pay and conditions broke down. The Australian Licensed Aircraft Engineers Association (ALAEA) said talks had 'hit a brick wall' and the work stoppage was the first in a series of possible actions that are set to include 48-hour work stoppages. -- AFP

Reply to Explosion, debris from jet : Qantas Airbus 380 on Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:43:11 GMT

snowman.022851697 — Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:43:11 GMT

verykiasu2010:
Alex001:
Don't blame Qantas, blame Rolls-Royce for not ensuring safe engines. I took a Qantas A380 recently from London to Singapore and everything was quite good. The engines don't even seem to have been in an incident.

Its a whole lot better than its competitor, the Boeing 747, which has been in a number of high-profile accidents (don't worry, its safe).
as a passenger, you will never know until things happen

touch wood!

Reply to Explosion, debris from jet : Qantas Airbus 380 on Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:43:03 GMT

snowman.022851697 — Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:43:03 GMT

verykiasu2010:
Alex001:
Don't blame Qantas, blame Rolls-Royce for not ensuring safe engines. I took a Qantas A380 recently from London to Singapore and everything was quite good. The engines don't even seem to have been in an incident.

Its a whole lot better than its competitor, the Boeing 747, which has been in a number of high-profile accidents (don't worry, its safe).
as a passenger, you will never know until things happen

touch wood!

Well the majority of the blame is still on RR. How can a design flaw be blamed on an airline? These days, whenever something happens, people are quick to blame it on the airline... touch wood.

Just my 0.02 cents.

Reply to Explosion, debris from jet : Qantas Airbus 380 on Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:03:20 GMT

verykiasu2010 — Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:03:20 GMT

Jan 26, 2011

Qantas plane forced to land in Bangkok
BANGKOK - A QANTAS Boeing 747 suffering mid-air mechanical trouble was forced to land in Bangkok, a Thai official said on Wednesday, in the latest of a string of problems for the Australian airline.

The Sydney-bound flight developed difficulties on Tuesday evening soon after taking off from the Thai capital and returned just after 7:00 pm (1200 GMT, 8:00 pm S’pore time), said Somchai Thean-Anant of Thailand’s air traffic control.

Reporting from Sydney, the Australian Associated Press said the plane was carrying 352 passengers, and quoted a Qantas spokesman as denying that the airline was suffering from systemic maintenance problems.

Also on Tuesday, a Qantas Boeing 737-400 carrying 99 passengers lost cabin pressure mid-flight en route from Adelaide to Melbourne, prompting the pilot to dive 8,000 metres and panicking passengers.

Qantas has endured a dramatic few months. In November it temporarily suspended flights of its Airbus A380 superjumbos after an engine on one exploded after taking off from Singapore, damaging the plane.

Last week a Qantas flight bound for New York made an unscheduled stop in Fiji after the Boeing 747 developed a problem with a fuel valve supplying one of its engines. – AFP

Reply to Explosion, debris from jet : Qantas Airbus 380 on Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:51:47 GMT

verykiasu2010 — Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:51:47 GMT

Alex001:
Don't blame Qantas, blame Rolls-Royce for not ensuring safe engines. I took a Qantas A380 recently from London to Singapore and everything was quite good. The engines don't even seem to have been in an incident.

Its a whole lot better than its competitor, the Boeing 747, which has been in a number of high-profile accidents (don't worry, its safe).

as a passenger, you will never know until things happen

touch wood!

Reply to Explosion, debris from jet : Qantas Airbus 380 on Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:50:51 GMT

verykiasu2010 — Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:50:51 GMT

AUSTRALIA’S The Age newspaper reported that a Qantas airliner carrying 99 passengers from Adelaide to Melbourne was forced rapidly to descend 26,000 feet after a sudden cabin depressurisation on Tuesday morning.

Oxygen masks dropped from the overhead consoles on the Boeing 737-400 as the pilots of flight QF670 announced that they would have to make a rapid descent from a cruising altitude of 36,000 feet to just 10,000 feet.

The incident occurred 30min from Melbourne and the pilots obtained air traffic control permission to fly at the lower altitude for the rest of the flight into Melbourne.

"It experienced a depressurisation in the cabin," Qantas spokesman Sophia Connelly said. "We think it was related to the airconditioning at this stage; we’re waiting on confirmation of that."

The masks in the cabin dropped automatically as a result of the depressurisation, she said, but it was thought the passengers did not need to put them on immediately.

Reply to Explosion, debris from jet : Qantas Airbus 380 on Mon, 24 Jan 2011 08:29:23 GMT

Alex001 — Mon, 24 Jan 2011 08:29:23 GMT

Don’t blame Qantas, blame Rolls-Royce for not ensuring safe engines. I took a Qantas A380 recently from London to Singapore and everything was quite good. The engines don’t even seem to have been in an incident.

Its a whole lot better than its competitor, the Boeing 747, which has been in a number of high-profile accidents (don’t worry, its safe).

Reply to Explosion, debris from jet : Qantas Airbus 380 on Wed, 19 Jan 2011 04:36:17 GMT

Happy Mama — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 04:36:17 GMT

verykiasu2010:
Jan 19, 2011

Qantas flight from Australia diverts to Fiji
SYDNEY - A QANTAS passenger jet bound for New York made an unscheduled stop in Fiji after it developed a problem with one of its engines, the Australian airline said on Wednesday.

Qantas said flight QF107, a Boeing 747, carrying 375 passengers from Sydney to New York via Los Angeles, touched down in Nadi on Tuesday for repairs to a fuel valve supplying one of its engines.

'Just past Nadi the flight crew got a message to say there was a fault with a fuel valve so they returned to Nadi to correct it... They could have flown on, it was just a precautionary measure,' a Qantas spokesman told AFP. The passengers were given hotel accommodation for the night and the flight continued early Wednesday, she added.

The hitch comes just days after another Qantas Boeing 747, QF11 to Los Angeles, experienced a contained engine failure on the runway of Sydney airport due to a turbine blade defect.

Media reports on that incident said that passengers heard 'a loud bang' and saw black smoke pour from the affected engine, with the captain reportedly telling those on board that the engine had 'cooked itself' over the plane's intercom.

The incidents follow a dramatic few months for the Australian airline which in November temporarily suspended flights of its Airbus A380 superjumbos after an engine on one exploded after taking off from Singapore, damaging the plane. -- AFP
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/World/Story/STIStory_625784.html

Qantas again? What's happening to Qantas lately? Qantas Chief ought to give a good explanation, or maybe even step-down! Too many incidents involving Qantas of late. Or is it too many incidents involving Australia of late? E.g. the ongoing flood...

Reply to Explosion, debris from jet : Qantas Airbus 380 on Wed, 19 Jan 2011 04:29:03 GMT

verykiasu2010 — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 04:29:03 GMT

Jan 19, 2011

Qantas flight from Australia diverts to Fiji
SYDNEY - A QANTAS passenger jet bound for New York made an unscheduled stop in Fiji after it developed a problem with one of its engines, the Australian airline said on Wednesday.

Qantas said flight QF107, a Boeing 747, carrying 375 passengers from Sydney to New York via Los Angeles, touched down in Nadi on Tuesday for repairs to a fuel valve supplying one of its engines.

'Just past Nadi the flight crew got a message to say there was a fault with a fuel valve so they returned to Nadi to correct it... They could have flown on, it was just a precautionary measure,' a Qantas spokesman told AFP. The passengers were given hotel accommodation for the night and the flight continued early Wednesday, she added.

The hitch comes just days after another Qantas Boeing 747, QF11 to Los Angeles, experienced a contained engine failure on the runway of Sydney airport due to a turbine blade defect.

Media reports on that incident said that passengers heard 'a loud bang' and saw black smoke pour from the affected engine, with the captain reportedly telling those on board that the engine had 'cooked itself' over the plane's intercom.

The incidents follow a dramatic few months for the Australian airline which in November temporarily suspended flights of its Airbus A380 superjumbos after an engine on one exploded after taking off from Singapore, damaging the plane. -- AFP
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/World/Story/STIStory_625784.html

Reply to Explosion, debris from jet : Qantas Airbus 380 on Tue, 21 Dec 2010 04:54:18 GMT

snowman.022851697 — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 04:54:18 GMT

atrecord:
noobparent:

Chill man. The SQ 380s are safe. Reason is because the model of Rolls Royce engines used by SQ is not the same as the Qantas one.

Qantas had to deploy a very high-end RR engine capable of an extremely high engine thrust in order to fly the Sydney-LAX route. I believe this variant of RR engine is at the cutting edge and quite untested.

SQ's engines aren't configured in that way. Furthermore SQ has been flying the A380s for a far longer time. The engines have not given any problems, at least so far.
i guess so...

but hor, back in aug 2008, my father took a SQ A380 to Beijing for the Olympics. And know what, he boarded the plane, then waited v long on it, before everyone was asked to disembark to change to another plane. Apparently the aircon got problem and the flight was delayed for a few hours, but it was just short of the limit to claim travel insurance....

from then on (and that was the early days of A380), my impression of the model hasn't been good.

All planes are like, they will always have problems, you can't expect the A380 to have no problems at all.

Reply to Explosion, debris from jet : Qantas Airbus 380 on Tue, 21 Dec 2010 04:05:18 GMT

verykiasu2010 — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 04:05:18 GMT

noobparent:
atrecord:
We actually took a A380 fr Sing to HK, on 7 Dec. It was on SQ. and to be honest, i was thinking of the recent Qantas incident after checking in luggage, but did not voice it out lest it put my folks and DW through unnecessary worries... kids are too small to know so it's ok.

only when we landed at HK then i finally loosened up.
Chill man. The SQ 380s are safe. Reason is because the model of Rolls Royce engines used by SQ is not the same as the Qantas one.

Qantas had to deploy a very high-end RR engine capable of an extremely high engine thrust in order to fly the Sydney-LAX route. I believe this variant of RR engine is at the cutting edge and quite untested.

SQ's engines aren't configured in that way. Furthermore SQ has been flying the A380s for a far longer time. The engines have not given any problems, at least so far.

From discussion with SQ people (cannot quote name), both SQ & QF are using same RR Trent 900 but of different power setting. SQ is more conservative with the power setting - IMHO - that results in less wear and tear hence only detected some oil stain instead of leaking engine oil for the QF's Trent 900. (it is like some Merc, same engine cc but different power output when put in different models)

I have taken both SQ and QF's A380 and noticed the take off roll is more aggressive by QF compared with SQ. Also, the new A380 of SQ and QF using the newer Trent 900 has already got the identified \"problem\" parts built with new improved parts, hence no problem. That explain why not every Trent 900 in the fleet need to be changed....and SQ has less units of Trent 900 replaced compared with QF even though SQ fleet size is 11 A380 compared with 6 A380 for QF

Reply to Explosion, debris from jet : Qantas Airbus 380 on Mon, 20 Dec 2010 16:37:55 GMT

atrecord — Mon, 20 Dec 2010 16:37:55 GMT

noobparent:

Chill man. The SQ 380s are safe. Reason is because the model of Rolls Royce engines used by SQ is not the same as the Qantas one.

Qantas had to deploy a very high-end RR engine capable of an extremely high engine thrust in order to fly the Sydney-LAX route. I believe this variant of RR engine is at the cutting edge and quite untested.

SQ's engines aren't configured in that way. Furthermore SQ has been flying the A380s for a far longer time. The engines have not given any problems, at least so far.

i guess so...

but hor, back in aug 2008, my father took a SQ A380 to Beijing for the Olympics. And know what, he boarded the plane, then waited v long on it, before everyone was asked to disembark to change to another plane. Apparently the aircon got problem and the flight was delayed for a few hours, but it was just short of the limit to claim travel insurance....

from then on (and that was the early days of A380), my impression of the model hasn't been good.

Reply to Explosion, debris from jet : Qantas Airbus 380 on Mon, 20 Dec 2010 09:56:37 GMT

noobparent — Mon, 20 Dec 2010 09:56:37 GMT

atrecord:
We actually took a A380 fr Sing to HK, on 7 Dec. It was on SQ. and to be honest, i was thinking of the recent Qantas incident after checking in luggage, but did not voice it out lest it put my folks and DW through unnecessary worries... kids are too small to know so it's ok.

only when we landed at HK then i finally loosened up.

Chill man. The SQ 380s are safe. Reason is because the model of Rolls Royce engines used by SQ is not the same as the Qantas one.

Qantas had to deploy a very high-end RR engine capable of an extremely high engine thrust in order to fly the Sydney-LAX route. I believe this variant of RR engine is at the cutting edge and quite untested.

SQ's engines aren't configured in that way. Furthermore SQ has been flying the A380s for a far longer time. The engines have not given any problems, at least so far.

Reply to Explosion, debris from jet : Qantas Airbus 380 on Mon, 20 Dec 2010 08:32:29 GMT

atrecord — Mon, 20 Dec 2010 08:32:29 GMT

We actually took a A380 fr Sing to HK, on 7 Dec. It was on SQ. and to be honest, i was thinking of the recent Qantas incident after checking in luggage, but did not voice it out lest it put my folks and DW through unnecessary worries… kids are too small to know so it’s ok.

only when we landed at HK then i finally loosened up.

Reply to Explosion, debris from jet : Qantas Airbus 380 on Mon, 20 Dec 2010 03:15:54 GMT

verykiasu2010 — Mon, 20 Dec 2010 03:15:54 GMT

noobparent:
So now Qantas is taking up lawsuit against Rolls Royce for the faulty engines right?

News report said so, unless RR could conclude a negotiated financial settlement for loss of profit. The quoted figures is in the $100m range

Airbus could be up against RR too for production disruption.

Qantas also asking RR why they did not fix the identified problems when the newer Trent 900 were built with an improved parts while the older Trent 900 were not recalled to change to the improved parts

The newer A380s with new Trent 900 are not affected by the identified problems

Reply to Explosion, debris from jet : Qantas Airbus 380 on Sun, 19 Dec 2010 13:46:03 GMT

noobparent — Sun, 19 Dec 2010 13:46:03 GMT

So now Qantas is taking up lawsuit against Rolls Royce for the faulty engines right?

Reply to Explosion, debris from jet : Qantas Airbus 380 on Tue, 14 Dec 2010 12:12:41 GMT

snowman.022851697 — Tue, 14 Dec 2010 12:12:41 GMT

I understand how you feel but that should be an engine backfiring, if something goes wrong on takeoff, pilot must continue the takeoff unless it has not passed the point of no return (vee one). A plane, anyway, is designed to fly with less engines that it yas. These kind of problems alone do NOT cause crashes. Even engines falling off planes / parts breaking off (except wings and the stabilizer (or ‘tail’)). Pilots are briefed and trained on every possible emergency that might happen inflight. I hope this puts your mind to rest.

Reply to Explosion, debris from jet : Qantas Airbus 380 on Mon, 13 Dec 2010 15:04:51 GMT

bigfoot — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 15:04:51 GMT

Just want to relate my experience with Qantas. It happened 2 years ago. My son, wife and myself were on a flight from SIN to Perth. While the plane was getting ready to take off along the runway, there was a loud explosion. Turning to my direction of the explosion, I saw flame at one end of the wing and heard the passenger at the windows seat exclaimed "Oh my God". At that moment, everyone in the plane started screaming. My first reaction? well, I grabbed my son immediately and tell my wife let’s go. At that point u can see everyone started to move to the exit. All of a sudden, someone stood and shouted at everyone to calm down and return to your seat. At that moment, the pilot announced over the PA to inform everyone that one of the engine has malfunctioned and we are moving back.

I can still remember that moment when the exlposion went off. The first thing in my mind then was to save my son (and of course my dear wife). My wife told me I reacted so fast by grabbing my son out of his seat. She doesnt even know what happened. Haha. I just told her to go and leave everything behind.

It is an experience I dun want to live thru again. Imagine if this happened during takeoff and in midair? Anyway, after that incident, there were many reports subsequently in the newspaper about Qantas having problem with their engines and having to return to airport. I was telling my wife why is Qantas always having problem. Is it always the case or was it because of what happened to us and we pay more attention to Qantas? Anyway, that was the last time we took Qantas.

When we read about the recent incidents of Qantas, it really didn’t surprise us and we even have those deja vu feeling. Scary to even think about it.

Reply to Explosion, debris from jet : Qantas Airbus 380 on Mon, 13 Dec 2010 12:52:08 GMT

snowman.022851697 — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 12:52:08 GMT

verykiasu2010:
If Qantas does not buck up on the maintenance and fleet renewal, it will be one \"near miss\" too many one day

Like Qantas has said, engine failures are common. I myself experienced one failure while flying through a thunderstorm on an SQ flight. Engine failures are normal and wont cause the plane to crash,, there are many causes, I myself don't believe it's Qantas's fault. News already said that its the failure of a specific component in the design of the engine itself, jumping to conclusions is never good.
[quote]quite scary to fly now especially that i am going to fly on a 380 soon! [/quote]Calm down; engine failures won't crash the plane. Airbus have already rectified the problem and SQ, Qantas are replacing their engines (I think, but it should be true) now.

Reply to Explosion, debris from jet : Qantas Airbus 380 on Mon, 22 Nov 2010 04:32:09 GMT

verykiasu2010 — Mon, 22 Nov 2010 04:32:09 GMT

http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/qantas-flight-32-lands-safely-at-changi-airport-in-singapore/story-e6frfq80-1225947850097

Qantas's moments of fear

September 1999 Qantas flagship QF1 flight from London overruns runway at Bangkok while landing in heavy rain

July 2008 Qantas 747-400 makes emergency landing in Manila after gaping hole is torn into fuselage

January 2008 Qantas 747-400 loses power on descent into Bangkok because of a galley water leak

March 2010 Two tyres on Qantas A380 burst as it lands at Sydney airport from London

March 2010 A Singapore-bound Qantas 747 was forced to return to Sydney because of engine trouble.

April 2010 An air leak on the door of a Qantas plane from Los Angeles to Sydney was secured by a wet towel until it landed.

September 2010 Qantas 747 makes emergency landing in San Francisco after mid-air explosion leaves hole in engine

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/qantas-flight-32-lands-safely-at-changi-airport-in-singapore/story-e6frfq80-1225947850097#ixzz15yy0f03F

Reply to Explosion, debris from jet : Qantas Airbus 380 on Mon, 22 Nov 2010 04:27:14 GMT

kingster — Mon, 22 Nov 2010 04:27:14 GMT

a number of such flight incidents for Qantas and the 380. quite scary to fly now especially that i am going to fly on a 380 soon! :?

Reply to Explosion, debris from jet : Qantas Airbus 380 on Mon, 22 Nov 2010 03:48:11 GMT

verykiasu2010 — Mon, 22 Nov 2010 03:48:11 GMT

If Qantas does not buck up on the maintenance and fleet renewal, it will be one "near miss" too many one day

Reply to Explosion, debris from jet : Qantas Airbus 380 on Mon, 22 Nov 2010 03:42:22 GMT

Quintessential Mum — Mon, 22 Nov 2010 03:42:22 GMT

Well despite the failures, Qantas has still managed to transport the passengers safely - no lives lost! Saving Grace! It beats the airlines that have no such reported failures and then crash and all lives are lost! It brings to mind the Silkair crash!

Reply to Explosion, debris from jet : Qantas Airbus 380 on Wed, 17 Nov 2010 04:20:40 GMT

verykiasu2010 — Wed, 17 Nov 2010 04:20:40 GMT

Nov 17, 2010

Qantas plane hit by bird strike
SYDNEY - A QANTAS Boeing 747 had to turn back to Johannesburg after one of its engines suffered a bird strike, the airline said on Wednesday, the latest in a string of incidents to beset the Australian carrier.

Qantas said the plane’s number two engine shut down with turbine damage after sucking in a bird shortly after takeoff late on Tuesday, forcing an emergency landing. There were 171 passengers on board.

‘The aircraft is being worked on by engineers,’ a Qantas spokesman told AFP.

‘It’s just a bit of damage to some of the turbine blades, it’s not a huge thing.’ One of Qantas’ smaller Boeing 717s was hit by lightning on a regional flight between the Australian destinations of Alice Springs and Darwin hours earlier, causing ‘minor damage’ to the exterior.

The incidents follow the return to Sydney of a Qantas Boeing 747 bound for Buenos Aires on Monday after it suffered an electrical fault which caused smoke to pour into the cockpit.

Qantas has been plagued with mechanical issues since grounding its fleet of Airbus A380s after an engine exploded on one of the superjumbos on November 4, forcing an emergency landing in Singapore. – AFP

Another B747 returned to Sydney a few days ago on the way to Bueno Aires due to electrical problem; and before that, another B767 from Perth to east coast needed to return due to engine vibration…

sigh !! Qantas …