<![CDATA[2010 PSLE: EESIS (top 3%) and 3rd Lang (top 10%) COP]]>Hi all,


Please share you DS/DD’s T-score and whether he/she has the EESIS and 3rd Lang (French/ Jap/ German) options?

EESIS determines the top 3% of the cohort while 3rd Lang option is for top 10%. The COP T-scores for both can be used to "calculate" the COPs of schools especially top schools like RI/RGS/HCI/NYGH/DH etc.

Last year 2009 EESIS COP was 261. Top 10% COP was 248. If the EESIS COP gone up this year, we can expect the top schools’ COPs to go up as well.

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father_of_3:
My thinking is the other way..... :?

if you have A for both lang(English & MT), I think you should be offer option of 3rd lang. This shows that child has no problem with language.
While I don't disagree that having done well in the languages may be an indication that the child may have a flair for languages, MOE is also concerned whether the child will be able to cope with the rigours of an additional subject knowing full well that the number of subjects a pupil has to manage has increased 100% (from the 4 in primary school to about 8 in secondary school). That probably explained when only the top 10% pupils are offered the option to do a 3rd language. It will be all the more unfortunate if the child is on the borderline, i.e. especially if the child just missed the cutoff.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/311174https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/311174Thu, 09 Dec 2010 08:57:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 2010 PSLE: EESIS (top 3%) and 3rd Lang (top 10%) COP on Thu, 09 Dec 2010 08:56:59 GMT]]>

doublesmile10:
stsl:

[quote=\"MdmKS\"]
So far know of 261 got it. Not sure anyone lower than this. But they may change the criteria. Saw a statement, \" Your child/ward is offered EESIS as he/she has been offer DSA to IS.\" Not sure if all got into Independent school via DSA, whtehter GEP or not get EESIS?

DD got 258 + 2 but only 3rd language being offered and not the EESIS lei. So, may be it's for DSA? BTW, now me and DD not sure should choose IP school or not? If yes, then would be DHS which DD very scared she cannot cope, me too.. worried for her, so thinking of Chung Cheng, we staying East, is this school going for IP ? But also heard that this is a very stressful school too, so we are very confused and afraid DD cannot cope with the very Chinese environment, her Chinese not strong. :?

no, chung cheng is not going for ip.cedar girls' school, catholic hs, chij st. nic, scgs, victoria school, st joseph institution and mgs are going for IP.[/quote]I thot EESIS is only offered to those going for Indept School whereby school fees are high. For DHS is a govt school so may not have EESIS?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/311173https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/311173Thu, 09 Dec 2010 08:56:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 2010 PSLE: EESIS (top 3%) and 3rd Lang (top 10%) COP on Thu, 09 Dec 2010 08:53:08 GMT]]>

father_of_3:
My thinking is the other way..... :?

if you have A for both lang(English & MT), I think you should be offer option of 3rd lang. This shows that child has no problem with language.
Good suggestion, may raise to MOE for further discussion. :lol:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/311168https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/311168Thu, 09 Dec 2010 08:53:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 2010 PSLE: EESIS (top 3%) and 3rd Lang (top 10%) COP on Thu, 09 Dec 2010 08:45:06 GMT]]>My thinking is the other way..... :?

if you have A for both lang(English & MT), I think you should be offer option of 3rd lang. This shows that child has no problem with language.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/311163https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/311163Thu, 09 Dec 2010 08:45:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 2010 PSLE: EESIS (top 3%) and 3rd Lang (top 10%) COP on Mon, 06 Dec 2010 07:59:56 GMT]]>

jtoh:
So EESIS this year is 260.


Wonder what the COP for third lang is.
249

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stsl:
MdmKS:

[quote=\"ycpang\"]
We gone through this last year...and we knew it is for top 3% after all the calculations.

So far know of 261 got it. Not sure anyone lower than this. But they may change the criteria. Saw a statement, \" Your child/ward is offered EESIS as he/she has been offer DSA to IS.\" Not sure if all got into Independent school via DSA, whtehter GEP or not get EESIS?

DD got 258 + 2 but only 3rd language being offered and not the EESIS lei. So, may be it's for DSA? BTW, now me and DD not sure should choose IP school or not? If yes, then would be DHS which DD very scared she cannot cope, me too.. worried for her, so thinking of Chung Cheng, we staying East, is this school going for IP ? But also heard that this is a very stressful school too, so we are very confused and afraid DD cannot cope with the very Chinese environment, her Chinese not strong. :?[/quote]no, chung cheng is not going for ip.cedar girls' school, catholic hs, chij st. nic, scgs, victoria school, st joseph institution and mgs are going for IP.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/309655https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/309655Mon, 06 Dec 2010 07:47:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 2010 PSLE: EESIS (top 3%) and 3rd Lang (top 10%) COP on Sun, 05 Dec 2010 12:03:34 GMT]]>

YuriHikage:
Okay, I'm a student here 244+1 for PSLE.


Can I still study a 3rd language (jap/german/french) even though my score ain't qualified top 10%? (Haha I know it isn't).

Please help? :oops:
The third language offer options should be stated in result slip. Only the top 10% of PSLE cohort is offered Jap/Gen/French

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/309295https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/309295Sun, 05 Dec 2010 12:03:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 2010 PSLE: EESIS (top 3%) and 3rd Lang (top 10%) COP on Sat, 04 Dec 2010 12:39:27 GMT]]>Okay, I'm a student here 244+1 for PSLE.


Can I still study a 3rd language (jap/german/french) even though my score ain't qualified top 10%? (Haha I know it isn't).

Please help? :oops:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/309050https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/309050Sat, 04 Dec 2010 12:39:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 2010 PSLE: EESIS (top 3%) and 3rd Lang (top 10%) COP on Fri, 03 Dec 2010 14:56:22 GMT]]>HI Carrot


yeah, really big headache when we were choosing the schools. on the nite before, dh and i discussed till 3am, still no conclusion. we did eventually decide at about 1pm the next day. like you, trying for IP schools for the first few choices and CHS is the 5th choice.

Your "heart goes pok pok pok" very funny leh! u r right, i think my heart will definitely go pok pok pok that day but from now till then, i have sth else to worry about ie our short trip next week… good to have sth to distract me abit!

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/308812https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/308812Fri, 03 Dec 2010 14:56:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 2010 PSLE: EESIS (top 3%) and 3rd Lang (top 10%) COP on Fri, 03 Dec 2010 11:01:32 GMT]]>

octopusmum:
Hi Carrot



i noticed that your son's score is exactly the same as my ds. may i know if you have decided on the school choices? can share with me? i am having a headache now, trying to decide.....

thks
Hi octopusmum,

Late response here :oops: We are trying out the IP schools as 1st 🙏 -3rd choices then 4th would be CHS ... headache over now all heart goes pok pok pok till 22nd morning LOL 😉 🙏

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/308748https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/308748Fri, 03 Dec 2010 11:01:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 2010 PSLE: EESIS (top 3%) and 3rd Lang (top 10%) COP on Fri, 03 Dec 2010 03:34:52 GMT]]>Hi ,

Please advise COP for top 3% and COP for top 10 % this year?
2009 was 261 and 248 respectively.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/308503https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/308503Fri, 03 Dec 2010 03:34:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 2010 PSLE: EESIS (top 3%) and 3rd Lang (top 10%) COP on Fri, 03 Dec 2010 02:09:05 GMT]]>Bingo , you are very correct.


Mine is daughter with 256 +2, so boy school don’t concern me.
Exclude RI ,Hwa Chong and AC Ind.

left with only seven schools.

4 already made known.
1) NYGH 263
2) RGS 260
3) NJC 257
4) Dunman High 258

Balance with 3.
1) River Valley High 251
2) SCGS 251
3) Methodist High 250

To guess 2 out of 3. Should be an easy task.
Btw, what choices u decide?

cheers

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jtoh:
ASAP:

Hi Jtoh,


Sorry for the late reply.
Risk assessment was made and result to this conclusion,it was base on very rare possibility of student having the same T score &

3 Criteria on the selection
1) IP
2) SAP
3) Distance from home.

Try and fail, no regret.
Fail without trying , very sad.

If I am not wrong, there are only about 8 Sec Sch with cut off above 250.
I have selected 4 ,balance with 2 out of 4.
You make a guess on my 5th and 6th choice 🙂

Good luck everyone.

Are there only 8 secondary schools with COP more than 250? In any case, good luck! Live without regrets is a good mantra to have. 🙂

I counted 10 schools; see table below
[font type=\"Courier New\"]     SCHOOL  LOWER   UPPER1    NYHS    263\t  2832    RGS     260\t  2853    RI      259\t  2834    DHS     258\t  2855    HCI     257\t  2816    NJC     257\t  2817    RVHS    251\t  2748    SCGS    251\t  2689    ACSI    250\t  26410   MGS     250\t  261

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/308140https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/308140Thu, 02 Dec 2010 08:52:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 2010 PSLE: EESIS (top 3%) and 3rd Lang (top 10%) COP on Thu, 02 Dec 2010 07:38:54 GMT]]>

stsl:


So far know of 261 got it. Not sure anyone lower than this. But they may change the criteria. Saw a statement, \" Your child/ward is offered EESIS as he/she has been offer DSA to IS.\" Not sure if all got into Independent school via DSA, whtehter GEP or not get EESIS?
DD got 258 + 2 but only 3rd language being offered and not the EESIS lei. So, may be it's for DSA? BTW, now me and DD not sure should choose IP school or not? If yes, then would be DHS which DD very scared she cannot cope, me too.. worried for her, so thinking of Chung Cheng, we staying East, is this school going for IP ? But also heard that this is a very stressful school too, so we are very confused and afraid DD cannot cope with the very Chinese environment, her Chinese not strong. :?
I know someone with 259+2 also din receive the EESIS. So I believe the COP is 260 for EESIS

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/308111https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/308111Thu, 02 Dec 2010 07:38:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 2010 PSLE: EESIS (top 3%) and 3rd Lang (top 10%) COP on Thu, 02 Dec 2010 04:31:21 GMT]]>refering to only girl and mixed sch la.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/307909https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/307909Thu, 02 Dec 2010 04:31:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 2010 PSLE: EESIS (top 3%) and 3rd Lang (top 10%) COP on Thu, 02 Dec 2010 03:55:43 GMT]]>

ASAP:
Hi Jtoh,


Sorry for the late reply.
Risk assessment was made and result to this conclusion,it was base on very rare possibility of student having the same T score &

3 Criteria on the selection
1) IP
2) SAP
3) Distance from home.

Try and fail, no regret.
Fail without trying , very sad.

If I am not wrong, there are only about 8 Sec Sch with cut off above 250.
I have selected 4 ,balance with 2 out of 4.
You make a guess on my 5th and 6th choice 🙂

Good luck everyone.
Are there only 8 secondary schools with COP more than 250? In any case, good luck! Live without regrets is a good mantra to have. 🙂

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/307888https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/307888Thu, 02 Dec 2010 03:55:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 2010 PSLE: EESIS (top 3%) and 3rd Lang (top 10%) COP on Thu, 02 Dec 2010 03:40:02 GMT]]>Hi Jtoh,


Sorry for the late reply.
Risk assessment was made and result to this conclusion,it was base on very rare possibility of student having the same T score &

3 Criteria on the selection
1) IP
2) SAP
3) Distance from home.

Try and fail, no regret.
Fail without trying , very sad.

If I am not wrong, there are only about 8 Sec Sch with cut off above 250.
I have selected 4 ,balance with 2 out of 4.
You make a guess on my 5th and 6th choice 🙂

Good luck everyone.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/307871https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/307871Thu, 02 Dec 2010 03:40:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 2010 PSLE: EESIS (top 3%) and 3rd Lang (top 10%) COP on Wed, 01 Dec 2010 09:57:50 GMT]]>ASAP, just wanted to add good luck!

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/307437https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/307437Wed, 01 Dec 2010 09:57:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 2010 PSLE: EESIS (top 3%) and 3rd Lang (top 10%) COP on Wed, 01 Dec 2010 09:45:47 GMT]]>Hi ASAP,


It’s true that MOE says that allocation is purely on merit and that it is highly unlikely that two students will have exactly the same T-score. But just to point out that another parent called up MOE too and the person who answered her call said that IF two students DO have the same T-score down to the last decimal point, then the one who puts the school in a higher choice will gain entry to the school over someone who put it down as a lower choice.

Bearing that in mind, I feel that your having RGS and NYGH as your top two choices is not really wise because your score is 4-5 points off the COPs for both schools last year. And your score for your 3rd and 4th choices are borderline COP too. In the event that COPs go up, then there could be the chance that you’ll end up in your 5th choice school. And if there happens to be someone who has the exact same T-score as you, and if there is only one vacancy left, then you won’t get that school either. I admit all this is just conjecture and the chances of having 2 persons with the exact T-score and only one remaining vacancy is really low, but is that the risk you want to take? Especially as if you can’t get into Nanyang, you’re unlikely to get into RGS too. Just being realistic here.

btw, would you mind revealing your 5th choice school?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/307430https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/307430Wed, 01 Dec 2010 09:45:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 2010 PSLE: EESIS (top 3%) and 3rd Lang (top 10%) COP on Wed, 01 Dec 2010 09:30:51 GMT]]>I ask myself the same question also, but this is the replied from MOE. MOE did not review how many decimal points. let said 3 decimal point, it is enough to differential thousands over student.Since the selection date has passed and choice already made.

let hope mission impossible become mission possible.
Good luck everyone.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/307421https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/307421Wed, 01 Dec 2010 09:30:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 2010 PSLE: EESIS (top 3%) and 3rd Lang (top 10%) COP on Wed, 01 Dec 2010 09:09:11 GMT]]>

ASAP:
Just call MOE hotline this morning. Reply is no student will have the same T score becos all T scores are in few decimal point. Therefore u would not lose out in term of choices, only lose out in merit (t score) which is fair.the choice is only your preference.meaning,if u cannot go into Dunman by t score, by putting it first choice, u won't go in either.

Actually, I don't really \"agree with MOE\" that no 2 students will have the same T-score. If both score exactly the same marks for all subjects, won't they end up with exactly the same T-score ? Maybe there is a remote chance, but surely, it's not impossible.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/307391https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/307391Wed, 01 Dec 2010 09:09:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 2010 PSLE: EESIS (top 3%) and 3rd Lang (top 10%) COP on Wed, 01 Dec 2010 07:38:27 GMT]]>Just call MOE hotline this morning. Reply is no student will have the same T score becos all T scores are in few decimal point. Therefore u would not lose out in term of choices, only lose out in merit (t score) which is fair.the choice is only your preference.meaning,if u cannot go into Dunman by t score, by putting it first choice, u won’t go in either.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/307310https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/307310Wed, 01 Dec 2010 07:38:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 2010 PSLE: EESIS (top 3%) and 3rd Lang (top 10%) COP on Wed, 01 Dec 2010 03:48:07 GMT]]>

ASAP:
Thanks for the speedy reply,

My dd got 256+2
So is it advisable for me to try my luck on
1st choice NANYANG GS
2nd choice RAFFLES GS
3rd choice DUNMAN High
4rd choice NJC
Knowing first 2 choices chances would be slim.
Will I lose out to those put DUNMAN as first choice.
Thanks much much
I think you're taking a risk putting both NY and RGS as your first two choices as your COP is about 4-5 off from last year's COP. My concern is if Dunman's COP and NJC's COPs go up this year, you're not likely to get any of your 4 choices. If I remember correctly, last year's COP for Dunman was 258 and NJC's was 257/258(?). Better to choose either NY or RGS as 1st choice and move Dunman to 2nd choice so that you stand a better chance at Dunman in the event that you don't get your 1st choice.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/307149https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/307149Wed, 01 Dec 2010 03:48:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to 2010 PSLE: EESIS (top 3%) and 3rd Lang (top 10%) COP on Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:21:06 GMT]]>:celebrate: in that case, I shall stick to this 4 choices, either one success would be a blessing to me. Hopefully:) thank you and good night to u.

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