Regrets in CC withdrawal and transferring to Kindergarten?

Reply to Regrets in CC withdrawal and transferring to Kindergarten? on Fri, 24 Dec 2010 14:19:04 GMT

laughingcat — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 14:19:04 GMT

buds:
But i do agree that i too; find that being comfortable with teachers is my main priority..

I definitely love teachers who are interactive and passionate when it comes to
teaching, guiding our children and observant facilitators since i'm one myself!
And next, if for an established centre would come their curriculum. :celebrate:

Good that your child is in a good place. I too like it when we know everyone
by first name and everyone knows us. It's been like that for me for both
my girls since pre-school to primary school, especially since i am also very
much a very involved parent.

Yeah! Agreed. :celebrate: I find that having passionate teachers are the main points that parents should look out for. Having a good curriculum without the passionate teachers to deliver are really useless.

Reply to Regrets in CC withdrawal and transferring to Kindergarten? on Fri, 24 Dec 2010 12:31:58 GMT

smurf — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 12:31:58 GMT

Newton is super near to orchard lah... :lol:

But 600 is quite ok for that area...

Reply to Regrets in CC withdrawal and transferring to Kindergarten? on Fri, 24 Dec 2010 12:27:16 GMT

laughingcat — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 12:27:16 GMT

smurf:
Kiddiewinkie is at orchard area?? The fee must be super expensive! :shock:

Hmm, does that means the more expensive the cc is, the better the 'service'??

no lah...it is at Newton. I don't think it is very expensive compared to other CC. I only paid $600 since I am a working mum.

Reply to Regrets in CC withdrawal and transferring to Kindergarten? on Fri, 24 Dec 2010 10:36:41 GMT

smurf — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 10:36:41 GMT

Kiddiewinkie is at orchard area?? The fee must be super expensive! :shock:

Hmm, does that means the more expensive the cc is, the better the 'service'??

Reply to Regrets in CC withdrawal and transferring to Kindergarten? on Fri, 24 Dec 2010 09:56:23 GMT

buds — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 09:56:23 GMT

laughingcat:
Hello buds, I know I cannot stereotype. But seriously I have been through so many CC centers. You name it.....I have been there.

Guess not where i've been. Hehee.. :lol:
Kidding you k? :hugs:

laughingcat:
From what I observed so far, those curriculum in franchise are so limited. They already have so limited curriculum to follow and so I saw some teachers have so limited capacity to expand any further.

I've expanded and built up the curriculum of any organisation i have
worked for... branch or franchise. At times, it's the head office staff
who comes down and makes copies from our master copies and
asks to see how we conduct our sessions with children... how
we work with parents... (etc)

laughingcat:
Worse scenario was......I asked the teachers what sort of phonics plan your school is running.....some will reply \"I will check\" or \"we don't have phonics\" or \"what is phonics\" or worse bring out the exercise books and let me see......sometime being naughty me will ask them what is that and that will stunt them with their blur look. :lol:

Usually a franchise takes the curriculum given by the head branch. So, if
head branch does not offer, it is likely that the franchises won't have as
well. The idea of being a franchise is to get support from head office not
left to fish on their own entirely..

This can be subjective cos there are also those franchisors who spoil market
and really leave their franchisees to stay afloat all on their own. Very sad.

But well... different strokes for different folks. I suppose where you reside you
must've had pretty strong experiences to have had such an impact on your
impressions of certain centres.

For me, i believe there's a hidden gem in each one... branded or not.

But i do agree that i too; find that being comfortable with teachers is my main priority..
I definitely love teachers who are interactive and passionate when it comes to
teaching, guiding our children and observant facilitators since i'm one myself!
And next, if for an established centre would come their curriculum. :celebrate:

Good that your child is in a good place. I too like it when we know everyone
by first name and everyone knows us. It's been like that for me for both
my girls since pre-school to primary school, especially since i am also very
much a very involved parent.

Reply to Regrets in CC withdrawal and transferring to Kindergarten? on Fri, 24 Dec 2010 08:59:37 GMT

Pen88n — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 08:59:37 GMT

Actually, I would say there is no one solution fits all, it depends very much on the child adaptation to CC or kindergarten, as well as the child’s character. Learning is also an individual thing, so how much the kid can absorb is also dependent on the kid as much as how much the teachers taught. With my 1st kid, I’m concerned with "how much has been taught". With my 2nd one, I’m more interested in "how much has been learned" and "how much has she learned thru’ reading by herself?". That’s why i can say that I have a "spoon-fed" 1st kid, and a more "self-learnt" 2nd one due to different handling from parents, grandparents and teachers.

As for HFMD, whether it is CC or kindergarten, there is always exposure. What is impt is the child’s immunity. When my DD first started off CC, she’s always at the one week present, one week absent situation. We never had that problem with her elder brother so it took us a while of trial and error before we discovered the "preventive" way.

Reply to Regrets in CC withdrawal and transferring to Kindergarten? on Fri, 24 Dec 2010 08:53:46 GMT

laughingcat — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 08:53:46 GMT

buds:
laughingcat:
Not those franchise type.

Honestly... it's not the place (the centre).
It's the people or the person.

I was sent to work in franchise outlets before... and i am
definitely no less qualified to work in an actual branch.

In fact, i helped bring up franchise standard.
I ended up being asked to run training for noobies..
Cannot stereotype lah dear..

When we work for big organisations with many outlets,
we don't exactly have that much say where we \"want\"
to go except somewhere that isn't too far to travel.

Hello buds, I know I cannot stereotype. But seriously I have been through so many CC centers. You name it.....I have been there . From what I observed so far, those curriculum in franchise are so limited. They already have so limited curriculum to follow and so I saw some teachers have so limited capacity to expand any further. Worse scenario was......I asked the teachers what sort of phonics plan your school is running.....some will reply \"I will check\" or \"we don't have phonics\" or \"what is phonics\" or worse bring out the exercise books and let me see......sometime being naughty me will ask them what is that and that will stunt them with their blur look. :lol:

Reply to Regrets in CC withdrawal and transferring to Kindergarten? on Fri, 24 Dec 2010 08:43:14 GMT

laughingcat — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 08:43:14 GMT

smurf:
Wow, which cc is that? I thought cc dun teach much...guess its a wrong concept. :?

My boys are at kiddiewinkie. Initially I used to think that CC dun teach much and was very upset when I need to draw my boy from church kindy earlier on. But afer a year with this CC, I was damn pleased. This CC is very interactive and most important of all, it has the phonics lesson that I am only keen in.....because I only believe in this particular phonics. MOST IMPORTANT of all, I like the teachers and all teachers are very interactive and that is why I know all of them. Down right to the cook as well.

An advise for all parents, take a look at the K2 composition work and drawings. No point look at their exercises book. It will at least show you where your child will be by the time he/she hits K2. That is the target for your child right? To be prepared for primary 1.

Reply to Regrets in CC withdrawal and transferring to Kindergarten? on Thu, 23 Dec 2010 16:11:31 GMT

buds — Thu, 23 Dec 2010 16:11:31 GMT

laughingcat:
Not those franchise type.

Honestly... it's not the place (the centre).
It's the people or the person.

I was sent to work in franchise outlets before... and i am
definitely no less qualified to work in an actual branch.

In fact, i helped bring up franchise standard.
I ended up being asked to run training for noobies..
Cannot stereotype lah dear..

When we work for big organisations with many outlets,
we don't exactly have that much say where we \"want\"
to go except somewhere that isn't too far to travel.

Reply to Regrets in CC withdrawal and transferring to Kindergarten? on Thu, 23 Dec 2010 16:07:03 GMT

smurf — Thu, 23 Dec 2010 16:07:03 GMT

Wow, which cc is that? I thought cc dun teach much...guess its a wrong concept. :?

Reply to Regrets in CC withdrawal and transferring to Kindergarten? on Thu, 23 Dec 2010 16:04:54 GMT

smurf — Thu, 23 Dec 2010 16:04:54 GMT

Wow, which cc is that? I thought cc dun teach much...guess its a wrong concept. :?

Reply to Regrets in CC withdrawal and transferring to Kindergarten? on Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:52:24 GMT

laughingcat — Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:52:24 GMT

zoan:
if u change cc for 3hrs maybe she will get lesser sick but in the mean time she cant get learn the full learning subject example: if she attend the morning class (chinese lesson) than she will unable to attend english lesson in the afternoon.

But if u put in the church kindergarden will be different she get to learn all the subject that taught in the day.

TulipisPink:
I started my SAHP for half a year when my 3 yrs old girl started her full day CC.

Then, She contacted HFMD and sick every month. Recently Doctor advised us not to put her in CC as She has a weak lung and easy to get sick in a CC environment.

Some parents in this forum commented that teachers in CC might not have active teaching as they are mostly occuppied in day-caring the kids.

So is it good idea to put her in a 3 hrs lesson in a church or change her to morning 3 hours in the same CC? At the same time I have to coach my boy who is going to be Pri.4.

Is there other issues that i need to be considered?

Any sharing or comments on my plan?

Thanks
Pink

Actually not quite true that church kindergarden will teach more effectively than CC. My boy literacy, independence and social skills are much better than his cousin and friends that attended church kindy. I noticed that most of my colleagues and friends kids who are in CC tend to be more independent. Yes not all CC has the right twit as well but you just need to find the right CC. Not those franchise type.

Reply to Regrets in CC withdrawal and transferring to Kindergarten? on Thu, 23 Dec 2010 09:34:43 GMT

yuppybb — Thu, 23 Dec 2010 09:34:43 GMT

luvmum:
If you like the CC, actually you can just convert your gal to half a day. I would also think that since you are embarking on SAHM route, it's good that you get to spend time in the afternoon with her and do all sorts (studying/baking/library visits etc) with her. Ur child will feel the difference as time spent with mummies are always very precious. I used to send my gal on full day CC which I later switch to 3 hrs Kindy when she reached K1. I've no regrets cos she really learnt a lot from the kindy and enjoy her stay there tremendously.

That is also why when I moved on to my PT job next year, I drop my previous tots of sending my elder gal to student care and younger boy to full day CC. I want to really spend time with them even though that would mean totally NO TIME for myself. Children grow up too fast to wait and hold. :please: :politebleah:

I always worry tat if I change her...what if she does not like it in kindy tat I will have no chance to reverse n join back cc. Her cc always has long wait list.
N on the selfish note , m oso thinkin it will b a major prob for me shld I surrender n wanna return bk to workforce

Reply to Regrets in CC withdrawal and transferring to Kindergarten? on Sat, 18 Dec 2010 07:51:21 GMT

zoan — Sat, 18 Dec 2010 07:51:21 GMT

if u change cc for 3hrs maybe she will get lesser sick but in the mean time she cant get learn the full learning subject example: if she attend the morning class (chinese lesson) than she will unable to attend english lesson in the afternoon.

But if u put in the church kindergarden will be different she get to learn all the subject that taught in the day.

TulipisPink:
I started my SAHP for half a year when my 3 yrs old girl started her full day CC.

Then, She contacted HFMD and sick every month. Recently Doctor advised us not to put her in CC as She has a weak lung and easy to get sick in a CC environment.

Some parents in this forum commented that teachers in CC might not have active teaching as they are mostly occuppied in day-caring the kids.

So is it good idea to put her in a 3 hrs lesson in a church or change her to morning 3 hours in the same CC? At the same time I have to coach my boy who is going to be Pri.4.

Is there other issues that i need to be considered?

Any sharing or comments on my plan?

Thanks
Pink

Reply to Regrets in CC withdrawal and transferring to Kindergarten? on Fri, 17 Dec 2010 15:55:32 GMT

24hr-mum — Fri, 17 Dec 2010 15:55:32 GMT

maybe u can see things from a diff perspective - how to boost ur child’s immunity. even if just 3 hrs, a weak child can still get sick

Reply to Regrets in CC withdrawal and transferring to Kindergarten? on Fri, 17 Dec 2010 15:37:13 GMT

TulipisPink — Fri, 17 Dec 2010 15:37:13 GMT

I started my SAHP for half a year when my 3 yrs old girl started her full day CC.

Then, She contacted HFMD and sick every month. Recently Doctor advised us not to put her in CC as She has a weak lung and easy to get sick in a CC environment.

Some parents in this forum commented that teachers in CC might not have active teaching as they are mostly occuppied in day-caring the kids.

So is it good idea to put her in a 3 hrs lesson in a church or change her to morning 3 hours in the same CC? At the same time I have to coach my boy who is going to be Pri.4.

Is there other issues that i need to be considered?

Any sharing or comments on my plan?

Thanks
Pink

Reply to Regrets in CC withdrawal and transferring to Kindergarten? on Fri, 17 Dec 2010 02:28:55 GMT

mamemo — Fri, 17 Dec 2010 02:28:55 GMT

IMHO, for kids less than 4 years old, full day cc is good for them to learn independence, toilet-training, interaction.

For 4-6 years old, half day kindy is better than full day CC. In full day CC, teachers are often too pre-occupied with taking care of the kids than doing active teaching, and they often stay in the school the whole day, so they always look tired. I regret not sending my boy to a kindy when he is 4 years old.

Reply to Regrets in CC withdrawal and transferring to Kindergarten? on Tue, 14 Dec 2010 08:45:49 GMT

Vevey — Tue, 14 Dec 2010 08:45:49 GMT

DS1 loved his 4hr pcf compared to the previous whole day cc & I wished I could hv transferred him earlier than K1 but a short 2hr nursery class + a newborn at home is too much 4 me to cope even w a maid then, as I was still adjusting to b a SAHM.

Reply to Regrets in CC withdrawal and transferring to Kindergarten? on Sun, 12 Dec 2010 03:34:01 GMT

24hr-mum — Sun, 12 Dec 2010 03:34:01 GMT

my kids hv been in cc all these years and thank God no HFMD or chkn pox.

reason: i supplement wif herbs, vitamins, sprulina n other vitamins.
they do hv cough flu fever the usual ones but not serious

Reply to Regrets in CC withdrawal and transferring to Kindergarten? on Sun, 12 Dec 2010 02:21:08 GMT

titank — Sun, 12 Dec 2010 02:21:08 GMT

yuppybb:
As i had recently embark on my SAHM journey, im contemplating to withdraw my gal from her full day CC to a 3 hr kindergarten. At least i can have more time with her and we have the whole afternoon for other activities.

Was abit concern if i will regret over this choice.

any parents had done this? any regrets ?

Apart loosing out the Me time, any other problems that i need to look into?

Kindly share your view

I look at it this manner, sending to CC means the child would expose more the chance of HFM. The child spend more time in a CC compare to a Kindy. Assuming the child is from 8am to 7pm. As for Kindy, they are like 3-4 hours of exposure level & they are back to home.

I'm not saying in CC would get HFM, in Kindy the same too. In summary, just reduce the exposure time in CC or Kindy respectively.

Reply to Regrets in CC withdrawal and transferring to Kindergarten? on Sat, 11 Dec 2010 18:18:29 GMT

chatelaine — Sat, 11 Dec 2010 18:18:29 GMT

If you can spend quality time with your DD, why not?

Apart from fetching your DD to and fro school, you need to prepare lunch and maybe do some activities together in the afternoon.

Alternatively, you can try letting your DD spend half day at school to try it out for a week. See how things go. :love:

Reply to Regrets in CC withdrawal and transferring to Kindergarten? on Fri, 10 Dec 2010 12:03:02 GMT

24hr-mum — Fri, 10 Dec 2010 12:03:02 GMT

my #1 and #3, both girls, are opposite. they are well suited to be homeschooled, will listen n follow

Reply to Regrets in CC withdrawal and transferring to Kindergarten? on Fri, 10 Dec 2010 12:02:07 GMT

24hr-mum — Fri, 10 Dec 2010 12:02:07 GMT

hi yuppybb

how old is ur girl?
i wld say depends on the child n other factors

kindy means no govt subsidy, so more ex fees.
a lot of travelling to n fro in fetchg n sending the child, unless got sch bus.

for my boy, if at hm, he wont nap or eat hmself. so i really appreciate him in sch. for me, i really need own time to run errands, etc. or else will go mad shouting at my boy 24hr a day.
really, at hm he wont do any wksheets at all, unless mr cane comes.
so sch is best for him n for my sanity.

Reply to Regrets in CC withdrawal and transferring to Kindergarten? on Fri, 10 Dec 2010 07:55:58 GMT

Charmaine_chong — Fri, 10 Dec 2010 07:55:58 GMT

I would personally feel that spending time with your young kids are precious. You could do loads of stuff with your child.

No money can buy it. :celebrate: