PSLEmom:

The Top scorers in my DS's school (néighbourhood school) - their parents are not graduates, they didn't have tuition and they didn't buy assessment books from Popular.

? :lol:

Chenonceau:

[quote=\"foreverj]
haha, who cares? all the good comes from mummy, all the bad comes from daddy lol!

but must say he always gives me credit when people praise dd. he'll say,\"dun ask me. i didn't do anything. its all the mummy's effort.\"
Aiyo! That is sooooooooooooooooooooooo sweet!! :love:

foreverj:

mrswongtuition:

[quote=\"Chenonceau\"]
Heeeeeeeeeeeee! I also use this to cho-cho my husband. It's not really substantiated but who needs substantiation when the thing makes me look so good!

:idea:

Will that deflate his ego? hahah!
I always joke with my hubs that my boy got his 'naughty-ness' and my brains. & he'll give me that 'am-i-really-that-bad' look.

mrswongtuition:

Chenonceau:

[quote=\"foreverj\"]
haha, think i'm going to take this n show my dh. see that's where dd got her intelligence (from moi) and body shape la (from dh who has long body and short legs)!

Heeeeeeeeeeeee! I also use this to cho-cho my husband. It's not really substantiated but who needs substantiation when the thing makes me look so good!

mrswongtuition:

Chenonceau:

[quote=\"foreverj\"]
haha, think i'm going to take this n show my dh. see that's where dd got her intelligence (from moi) and body shape la (from dh who has long body and short legs)!

Heeeeeeeeeeeee! I also use this to cho-cho my husband. It's not really substantiated but who needs substantiation when the thing makes me look so good!

Chenonceau:

foreverj:

haha, think i'm going to take this n show my dh. see that's where dd got her intelligence (from moi) and body shape la (from dh who has long body and short legs)!

Heeeeeeeeeeeee! I also use this to cho-cho my husband. It's not really substantiated but who needs substantiation when the thing makes me look so good!

foreverj:

haha, think i'm going to take this n show my dh. see that's where dd got her intelligence (from moi) and body shape la (from dh who has long body and short legs)!

janet_lee88:

Hope my kids inherit the Maths/Science IQ from hubby.
Spending quality time with the kids is impt...bonding with them so that they can differentiate good and bad and 'move from' parenting role to that of a 'friend' role as they grow. I'm grateful my hubby is able to let me stay home to enjoy this bonding with the kids.

foreverj:

janet_lee88:

Intelligent parents produce intelligent kids...it's a fact.
I know of this girl who got into GEP as her parents are doctors and paternal family are also highly intelligent.
Intelligence aside, parents should also do their part to nurture the kids but remember not to over-do.

i can only remind that intelligent parents also produce special needs kids, so let's just say generally intelligent parents produce intelligent kids .

dh has colleagues who came from branded schools, are highly successful themselves, and yet worry that their kids cannot survive in spore due to mediocre results. hence the nurturing, spendg quality time is impt too, irregardless of the intelligence level of the child.

janet_lee88:

Intelligent parents produce intelligent kids...it's a fact.
I know of this girl who got into GEP as her parents are doctors and paternal family are also highly intelligent.
Intelligence aside, parents should also do their part to nurture the kids but remember not to over-do.

atutor2001:

Chenonceau:

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In Singapore, highly educated fathers and mothers tend to have high IQ too. Their children would inherit that IQ. Hence, it is not surprising that these children end up in good schools. In fact, I am surprised that the proportion of educated fathers in RI and RGS is so low....

Therefore, it's a proof that smart parents produce smart kids.

However, based on my head count, out of 10 friends, I think only 1 has son/s that managed to enter the same school as the father. What has happened to their \"intelligence\"? My conclusion is : they do not have \"conducive environment and thus cannot produce results in their study. All his friends are busy making BIG MONEY - very successful, no time for kids.

After all these years, I have come to the conclusion that nurtured is much more important than nature.

Chenonceau:

foreverj:

i've heard of this b4 too but is this substantiated? n does it make a difference whether the foetus is boy/girl?

I don't know of any substantiation using IQ scores, mother versus child. I don't really look into educational psychology unless it's some specific question I wanna find out to fix my kids. I didn't even test my kids' IQ. Knowing what I know about how IQ predicts test scores and job performance, I don't wanna know my kids' IQ scores because I don't wanna develop a fatalist attitude. As long as we don't know, there is nothing to predict... and therefore we will keep on trying.

I did however, read that book by the fellow who decoded the DNA string. He reported an experiment where they engineered a mouse foetus with only Mother's DNA. The foetus developed a HUGE head and small body. The reverse happened with the other foetus engineered to have only the Father's DNA.

Don't remember if foetus boy or girl though... I dun think the book explained...

So... maybe it isn't true that kids inherit from Mother...

atutor2001:

Chenonceau:

.....

In Singapore, highly educated fathers and mothers tend to have high IQ too. Their children would inherit that IQ. Hence, it is not surprising that these children end up in good schools. In fact, I am surprised that the proportion of educated fathers in RI and RGS is so low....

My DH was from top school. His school mates' kids are mostly very intelligent. Some even in GEP. Therefore, it's a proof that smart parents produce smart kids.

However, based on my head count, out of 10 friends, I think only 1 has son/s that managed to enter the same school as the father. What has happened to their \"intelligence\"? My conclusion is : they do not have \"conducive environment and thus cannot produce results in their study. All his friends are busy making BIG MONEY - very successful, no time for kids.

After all these years, I have come to the conclusion that nurtured is much more important than nature.

Chenonceau:

.....

In Singapore, highly educated fathers and mothers tend to have high IQ too. Their children would inherit that IQ. Hence, it is not surprising that these children end up in good schools. In fact, I am surprised that the proportion of educated fathers in RI and RGS is so low....

mrswongtuition:

Chenonceau:

[quote=\"mrswongtuition\"]
I'm quite surprised to read this.

These results are reflective of a US population so we need to take with a pinch of salt. Singaporeans may be adopting REALLY smart kids... smarter than themselves. Haha!

However, what research in psychology demonstrates again and again though... (even across borders and cultures) is that IQ is a strong predictor of exam results, and job performance. The result comes back often enough that it may be described as a robust finding.

It is for this reason that in some USA high tech companies, IQ tests are administered during the recruitment of staff.

However, like in every soft science, there are plenty of exceptions because there are so many variables (EQ, type of job [people oriented? task oriented?], motivation). Generally however, it is agreed that IQ counts in academics.

foreverj:

i've heard of this b4 too but is this substantiated? n does it make a difference whether the foetus is boy/girl?

foreverj:

could it be that most of the parents with kids in top schools (i'm assuming these are secondary schools) are in the baby boomer generation which does not have a lot of graduates yet, hence there will naturally be a lower proportion of graduate mums.

Chenonceau:

In fact, some people say that children inherit IQ from mothers, since it has been shown that mother's DNA is responsible for brain development in foetuses.

Chenonceau:

I note that the proportion of educated mothers in top schools often drop below 50%. This is again surprisingly low.

Chenonceau:

mrswongtuition:

[quote=\"Chenonceau\"]
4) Adopted children
Academic scores relate strongly to IQs of biological parents. An adopted child's biological parents (those who gave him away) tend to be lower than the adoptive parents (those who pay to adopt him/her). Adopted children do worse in school when compared to other non-adopted children from the same parental socio-economic and educational background.

I'm quite surprised to read this.

mrswongtuition:

Chenonceau:

4) Adopted children
Academic scores relate strongly to IQs of biological parents. An adopted child's biological parents (those who gave him away) tend to be lower than the adoptive parents (those who pay to adopt him/her). Adopted children do worse in school when compared to other non-adopted children from the same parental socio-economic and educational background.

I'm quite surprised to read this.

Chenonceau:

4) Adopted children
Academic scores relate strongly to IQs of biological parents. An adopted child's biological parents (those who gave him away) tend to be lower than the adoptive parents (those who pay to adopt him/her). Adopted children do worse in school when compared to other non-adopted children from the same parental socio-economic and educational background.

atutor2001:

mrswongtuition:

...do not know how to create a conducive environment at home.

Similarly, there are highly educated parents who are too tired... neglect to create a conducive environment for their children.

I think \"conducive environment\" is the answer to \"study\". This environment must be there when the child is a baby. Not when he/she starts schooling - too late liao.

I notice most top PSLE students have parents who are professors, teachers, doctors, civil servant... Seldom hear that the parents are property agent, stock broker, ...

mrswongtuition:

...do not know how to create a conducive environment at home.

Similarly, there are highly educated parents who are too tired... neglect to create a conducive environment for their children.