<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[The Chinese Textbook: A Fair Estimate of Exam Expectations?]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I realized something odd about our primary school language textbooks today. The level of difficulty of the language printed in a Primary 5 textbook is about 2 years easier than the level of difficulty in the Primary 5 exams. After examining Little Boy's Chinese textbook in detail (something I have never done because I had never found them useful in preparing Little Boy for the exams, and therefore intuitively ignored them). It occurred to me to ask myself why today. Why don't I find school textbooks useful in preparing Little Boy for exams? Why did I spend years fighting with Grandma trying to get her to ignore the Chinese textbook when helping Little boy with Chinese? And why was it that Grandma's stubborn focus on the textbook produced a downward trend in Chinese grades?<br /><br /><br />These are obvious questions that I, like most parents, did not ask.<br /><br />For more on this... <a href="http://petunialee.blogspot.com/2011/02/of-what-use-textbook.html">http://petunialee.blogspot.com/2011/02/of-what-use-textbook.html</a> .</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/19495/the-chinese-textbook-a-fair-estimate-of-exam-expectations</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 02:45:51 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/19495.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 05:37:22 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Chinese Textbook: A Fair Estimate of Exam Expectations? on Sun, 10 Apr 2011 21:36:56 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>tisha:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>Chenonceau:</b><p>Oh! I didn't know that about the Chinese textbooks. Thanks for sharing. And yes... <b><b>I think the Science textbooks are pretty thin too in view of the content tested in exams. The textbook teaches LESS so that the kids can learn MORE from... from... from the air and soil of Singapore</b></b>.</p></blockquote></blockquote><br />:hi5: Ha ha, can't agree with you more. The science text books is only full of Qs. You will never find the answers in any part of the book. I even discussed this with DS's form teacher. She said that sciece is taught more as a discussion and hands on. Which means that the answers to all the Qs in the text books are revealed during the classroom discussion. Interesting  way of learning for sure, but is it possible to remember 100% of all the discussion acurately by all the students. And what if a student is absent for a few days due to illness? There sure should be some refernce material to fall back on. I can't agree that classroom discussions and experiments can replace text books.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f610.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--neutral_face" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":|" alt="😐" /> Thru some kind friend we learnt that there is this thing called <i><i>guide book </i></i>available in Popular for science. Ever since we completely ignore the text book and rely on the guide books instead. But I have to say that this system of relying on external material is not fair for those who cannot afford(and also the ignoramus  :lol: ) .<br /><br />On hindsight,  if school books were enough then it would affect the economy for sure, since the bookstores and tution/enrichments would run out of bussiness.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" />  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><br /><br />Sorry a bit :offtopic: here, I'm mainly ranting bout science.<p></p></blockquote>No lah... not off topic lah... We dun have problems with Science so I overlooked the Science textbook. We have problems with Chinese so I only complained about the Chinese textbook. We all have our biases I suppose. Hee!<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/396572</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/396572</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chenonceau]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2011 21:36:56 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Chinese Textbook: A Fair Estimate of Exam Expectations? on Sun, 10 Apr 2011 12:11:58 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Chenonceau:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">Oh! I didn't know that about the Chinese textbooks. Thanks for sharing. And yes... <b><b>I think the Science textbooks are pretty thin too in view of the content tested in exams. The textbook teaches LESS so that the kids can learn MORE from... from... from the air and soil of Singapore</b></b>.</blockquote></blockquote><br />:hi5: Ha ha, can't agree with you more. The science text books is only full of Qs. You will never find the answers in any part of the book. I even discussed this with DS's form teacher. She said that sciece is taught more as a discussion and hands on. Which means that the answers to all the Qs in the text books are revealed during the classroom discussion. Interesting  way of learning for sure, but is it possible to remember 100% of all the discussion acurately by all the students. And what if a student is absent for a few days due to illness? There sure should be some refernce material to fall back on. I can't agree that classroom discussions and experiments can replace text books.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f610.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--neutral_face" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":|" alt="😐" /> Thru some kind friend we learnt that there is this thing called <i><i>guide book </i></i>available in Popular for science. Ever since we completely ignore the text book and rely on the guide books instead. But I have to say that this system of relying on external material is not fair for those who cannot afford(and also the ignoramus  :lol: ) .<br /><br />On hindsight,  if school books were enough then it would affect the economy for sure, since the bookstores and tution/enrichments would run out of bussiness.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" />  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><br /><br />Sorry a bit :offtopic: here, I'm mainly ranting bout science.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/396403</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/396403</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[tisha]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2011 12:11:58 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Chinese Textbook: A Fair Estimate of Exam Expectations? on Sun, 10 Apr 2011 02:29:22 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>chamonix:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">During my son's first P1 PT meeting last year(Mar/Apr), the teacher told me outrightly she expected her students to know (read, write and use) every single character in their Chinese textbooks well. That was only her minimum requirement.<br /><br /><br />I take it that to do well in Chinese, parents would have to coach their kids or send them enrichment centres for more exposure. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f610.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--neutral_face" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":|" alt="😐" /></blockquote></blockquote><br />I would agree to this since I have sent dd to attend the CL compo. class and at the same time coach her new words or phrases beyond the text book so as to do well in those open and end questions.<br /><br />She read quite a number of story books too.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/396193</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/396193</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Brenda10]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2011 02:29:22 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Chinese Textbook: A Fair Estimate of Exam Expectations? on Sat, 09 Apr 2011 13:19:21 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>During my son's first P1 PT meeting last year(Mar/Apr), the teacher told me outrightly she expected her students to know (read, write and use) every single character in their Chinese textbooks well. That was only her minimum requirement.<br /><br /><br />I take it that to do well in Chinese, parents would have to coach their kids or send them enrichment centres for more exposure. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f610.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--neutral_face" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":|" alt="😐" /></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/395999</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/395999</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[metz]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2011 13:19:21 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Chinese Textbook: A Fair Estimate of Exam Expectations? on Fri, 08 Apr 2011 00:05:58 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Chenonceau:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">I realized something odd about our primary school language textbooks today. The level of difficulty of the language printed in a Primary 5 textbook is about 2 years easier than the level of difficulty in the Primary 5 exams. After examining Little Boy's Chinese textbook in detail (something I have never done because I had never found them useful in preparing Little Boy for the exams, and therefore intuitively ignored them). It occurred to me to ask myself why today. Why don't I find school textbooks useful in preparing Little Boy for exams? Why did I spend years fighting with Grandma trying to get her to ignore the Chinese textbook when helping Little boy with Chinese? And why was it that Grandma's stubborn focus on the textbook produced a downward trend in Chinese grades?<br /><br /><br />These are obvious questions that I, like most parents, did not ask.<br /><br />For more on this... <a href="http://petunialee.blogspot.com/2011/02/of-what-use-textbook.html">http://petunialee.blogspot.com/2011/02/of-what-use-textbook.html</a> .</blockquote></blockquote>I have no doubt of this analysis since we have gone through the P5 and now in P6.  To do well in the exam we have to learn much more than what text books have taught.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/394496</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/394496</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Brenda10]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 00:05:58 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Chinese Textbook: A Fair Estimate of Exam Expectations? on Thu, 07 Apr 2011 14:29:41 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>teh_oh:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">...what leaves me perplexed is that while the examination/education standard has become more challenging over the years<span style="\&quot;color:">, the textbooks standard did not catch up</span>. This leaves a big gap between those who can afford external help and those who can't. Compared to the textbooks used in my time, I thought our ...</blockquote></blockquote><br />Totally agree !<br /><br />I am thinking of buying Popular's shares  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><br /><br />On top of that, the weightage for oral has increased (a disguised effort from MOE to \"help\" local pupils??) but the percentage of time spent on oral practises in school is the same as before.<br /><br />PERPLEXing !  :stupid:<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/394305</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/394305</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[pixiedust]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 14:29:41 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Chinese Textbook: A Fair Estimate of Exam Expectations? on Thu, 07 Apr 2011 13:53:42 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br /><br />Maybe essentially, schools' duty are to ensure that all students are to meet a certain minimum standard in proficiency level. The school's textbooks sure meet these minimum standards. It will ensure a pass. To do well, is the individual drive of parents and students. From there, they can source for the 1001 varieties of assessment from our neighbourhood Popular.  :lol: <br /><br />Having said that, what leaves me perplexed is that while the examination/education standard has become more challenging over the years, the textbooks standard did not catch up. This leaves a big gap between those who can afford external help and those who can't. Compared to the textbooks used in my time, I thought our textbooks are sufficient to tackle major exams comfortably. I still remembered that I relied only on one vocab assessment book, one english guidebook and one science guidebook to get 'A's for my 4 subjects. Quite decent to me considering no past year papers, assessment books or tuition whatsoever resources available at that time. Maybe the quality of teachers (in the past vs at present) played a part.....  :!:</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/394253</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/394253</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[teh_oh]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 13:53:42 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Chinese Textbook: A Fair Estimate of Exam Expectations? on Thu, 07 Apr 2011 07:50:13 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Chenonceau:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">I realized something odd about our primary school language textbooks today. The level of difficulty of the language printed in a Primary 5 textbook is about 2 years easier than the level of difficulty in the Primary 5 exams. After examining Little Boy's Chinese textbook in detail (something I have never done because I had never found them useful in preparing Little Boy for the exams, and therefore intuitively ignored them). It occurred to me to ask myself why today. Why don't I find school textbooks useful in preparing Little Boy for exams? Why did I spend years fighting with Grandma trying to get her to ignore the Chinese textbook when helping Little boy with Chinese? And why was it that Grandma's stubborn focus on the textbook produced a downward trend in Chinese grades?<br /><br /><br />These are obvious questions that I, like most parents, did not ask.<br /><br />For more on this... <a href="http://petunialee.blogspot.com/2011/02/of-what-use-textbook.html">http://petunialee.blogspot.com/2011/02/of-what-use-textbook.html</a> .</blockquote></blockquote>I totally agree with you.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/393966</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/393966</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[matrix0405]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 07:50:13 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Chinese Textbook: A Fair Estimate of Exam Expectations? on Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:45:51 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I homeschool my son, and apart from the Chinese textbook (which is requested by his tutor) and the Math textbook, I totally didn’t bother buying any of the other textbooks.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/366136</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/366136</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[ANobleNerd]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:45:51 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Chinese Textbook: A Fair Estimate of Exam Expectations? on Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:08:39 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Even the workbooks are so simple…if our kids were to rely on them for exam/test…they would prob get borderline passes.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/366063</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/366063</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bebe]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:08:39 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Chinese Textbook: A Fair Estimate of Exam Expectations? on Wed, 23 Feb 2011 00:38:03 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Oh! I didn’t know that about the Chinese textbooks. Thanks for sharing. And yes… I think the Science textbooks are pretty thin too in view of the content tested in exams. The textbook teaches LESS so that the kids can learn MORE from… from… from the air and soil of Singapore.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/365337</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/365337</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chenonceau]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 00:38:03 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to The Chinese Textbook: A Fair Estimate of Exam Expectations? on Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:57:15 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Actually, of all the textbooks, I only use the Chinese textbooks as the Chinese Paper 2 intiial sections test the words and phrases in the Chinese textbooks. The other English, Maths and Science textbooks are worst and no use at all - all can be thrown into rubbish bin and are of no use for exam preparation!</p>
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