<![CDATA[Laohuayan or Presbyopia - Options?]]>I am shortsighted around 300-400 degrees and developing laohuayan or presbyopia. I find I cant read well at the end of the day Or after a heavy bout of near work.


Was told that I hv the following options:
1. Have 2 pairs of glasses. One to see far, One reading glasses (sharp vision for both near, far but troublesome)
2. Progressive lenses
3. Wear back contact lenses. and Use reading glasses. (this one also for vanity!)

TO the optician, 1 is the best as gives best vision for far and near. But obviously its troublesome. He says progressive lenses do not correct fully for either far or near, so that there is no huge change in power. I have a friend who also told me the same thing ie the progressive lenses may not correct fully and end up still lifting glasses to read. On top of that i think there is an adjustmt period for progressive lenses. I also fear that progessive lenses may end up with many frequent changes cos eyesight deteriorates. And they are more expensive.

Anyone with experience on the lao hua yan problem ?For those using progressive lenses, do u hv the symptoms of not sharp visions / adjustmt prob or need to change frequently? Thanks.

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slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2080330\" time=\"1661837538\" user_id=\"28674:

I've worn progressives done by Owndays for the past 9 years or so - about 3-4 pairs in all. I've had no problems, and I keep going back to them.
You're luckier than me then. I've never found their progressive lenses to be as effective and I've used their Prestige Platinum too. Anyway, if it works for you, definitely go for them. I do like their range of frames and their prices are very attractive.

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Mr.Clumsy\" post_id=\"2080314\" time=\"1661831830\" user_id=\"135989:

I find that Owndays is good if you want normal glasses but if you need something more fancy like progressive lenses, I've not had as glowing an experience.
I've worn progressives done by Owndays for the past 9 years or so - about 3-4 pairs in all. I've had no problems, and I keep going back to them.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2080330https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2080330Tue, 30 Aug 2022 05:32:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Laohuayan or Presbyopia - Options? on Tue, 30 Aug 2022 05:27:58 GMT]]>Besides seeing a doc to check for laohuayan, do check on cataract too.

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janet88\" post_id=\"2080306\" time=\"1661830771\" user_id=\"12950:

My specs is for both short and long. Have been wearing this for at least 10 years.
Went to owndays to get a pair done with transition (add on $100) with daughter bcos of promo. But it is not comfortable. So went to back to the optician who has done all my specs for many years.
I find that Owndays is good if you want normal glasses but if you need something more fancy like progressive lenses, I've not had as glowing an experience.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2080314https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2080314Tue, 30 Aug 2022 03:57:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Laohuayan or Presbyopia - Options? on Tue, 30 Aug 2022 03:39:31 GMT]]>My specs is for both short and long. Have been wearing this for at least 10 years.

Went to owndays to get a pair done with transition (add on $100) with daughter bcos of promo. But it is not comfortable. So went to back to the optician who has done all my specs for many years.

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cherubin\" post_id=\"2073997\" time=\"1657518952\" user_id=\"118184:

If anyone has any lobang for making progressive spectacles, please share. For someone with high degree ~800, the costs come up to ~$1,000, and the spectacles only can be worn like 1 or 2 years before needing to change again. Seems rather hefty.
Try Owndays - they start fairly modestly, and you add $100 for each \"frill\". I only paid about $300 for my no-frills progressives, though my degree is lower than yours, so I don't know if yours will be different.

https://www.owndays.com/sg/en

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2074005https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2074005Mon, 11 Jul 2022 07:25:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Laohuayan or Presbyopia - Options? on Mon, 11 Jul 2022 05:55:52 GMT]]>If anyone has any lobang for making progressive spectacles, please share. For someone with high degree ~800, the costs come up to ~$1,000, and the spectacles only can be worn like 1 or 2 years before needing to change again. Seems rather hefty.

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zac's mum\" post_id=\"2063467\" time=\"1648974811\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2063467 time=1648974811 user_id=53606]
I have also heard from my optometrist friend that none of the optometrists (as well as eye surgeons) chose to go for Lasik.

Maybe it’s because their jobs require more precise eyesight…just a guess.[/quote]
Yes, Lasik or other surgeries can never be 100% guaranteed to give perfect correction, and some precision can be lost. So for professions which require them to see a lot of clear detail, it may be a risk.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063471https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063471Sun, 03 Apr 2022 09:55:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Laohuayan or Presbyopia - Options? on Sun, 03 Apr 2022 08:33:31 GMT]]>I have also heard from my optometrist friend that none of the optometrists (as well as eye surgeons) chose to go for Lasik.


Maybe it’s because their jobs require more precise eyesight…just a guess.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063467https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063467Sun, 03 Apr 2022 08:33:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Laohuayan or Presbyopia - Options? on Sun, 03 Apr 2022 08:13:47 GMT]]>Many years ago, I spoke to a lawyer and somehow we talked about such lawsuits.


He didn’t say much except commented that most of his eye surgeon (what’s the correct name?) clients didn’t have their own vision corrected and told me to draw my own conclusions

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Funz\" post_id=\"2063180\" time=\"1648702263\" user_id=\"6230:

You've been pondering since early 30s so pondering about 10 years?

:idea: Ponder a few more years then just go do lens replacement surgery. It corrects short sightedness, presbyopia, astigmatism and cataracts.
It's a workaround presbyopia and not actual correction, ya?

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zac's mum\" post_id=\"2063247\" time=\"1648762729\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2063247 time=1648762729 user_id=53606]
Just in case u didnt know…there are soft lenses for astig + myopia correction. Been using those for more than 20 years. Cant stand glasses myself + vain.

Dont know about laohua though.[/quote]
I started out with hard lens - think it was because it corrects better. And had been using such since.

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Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2063244\" time=\"1648743860\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2063244 time=1648743860 user_id=195250]
For any kind of \"operations\", there is always a certain level of risk and cannot be 100% sure safe. Wearing a pairs of glasses makes me look much nicer and therefore I have never try any contact lens.[/quote]
Totally agree with you - or the indemnity will not be required.

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Coolkidsrock2\" post_id=\"2063230\" time=\"1648735482\" user_id=\"48901:

Am good now, thanks. Just takeaway from it made me cautious about the monovision method to correct vision. Have cut wearing contact lens substantially since February 2020 and moving into hybrid work arrangement, so undecided if it is worth the pain of re-adjusting to hard lens again.
Just in case u didnt know…there are soft lenses for astig + myopia correction. Been using those for more than 20 years. Cant stand glasses myself + vain.

Dont know about laohua though.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063247https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063247Thu, 31 Mar 2022 21:38:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Laohuayan or Presbyopia - Options? on Thu, 31 Mar 2022 16:24:20 GMT]]>For any kind of "operations", there is always a certain level of risk and cannot be 100% sure safe. Wearing a pairs of glasses makes me look much nicer and therefore I have never try any contact lens.

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ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2063153\" time=\"1648687375\" user_id=\"3:

Goodness. Hope you are ok.

I've never worn hard lens... and about 10 years ago I tried to put on contacts again but one of my eyes was very painful. So I never tried again :sad: . Sticking to my glasses 🙂
Am good now, thanks. Just takeaway from it made me cautious about the monovision method to correct vision. Have cut wearing contact lens substantially since February 2020 and moving into hybrid work arrangement, so undecided if it is worth the pain of re-adjusting to hard lens again.

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MyPillow\" post_id=\"2063124\" time=\"1648640656\" user_id=\"70594:

So how many boxes did u buy , it’s two sides diff degree , esp the eye for near vision - the normal degree need to drop a lot for the contact lens right ?
Now adays , my eyes are easily dry too due - am wearing more glasses but long sighted creeping in n affecting me.

Anyone know if lasik able to correct both short n long sighted for people who had never done before for short sighted correction - and any age limit for it - in 40s/ 50s still effective or not ?
I had been thinking n pondering since early 30s … hahaha
You've been pondering since early 30s so pondering about 10 years?

:idea: Ponder a few more years then just go do lens replacement surgery. It corrects short sightedness, presbyopia, astigmatism and cataracts.

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Coolkidsrock2\" post_id=\"2063070\" time=\"1648616716\" user_id=\"48901:

I wear hard lens as I have astig.

Tumbled down a flight of steps years back when I wore glasses instead of lens. Not used and misjudge the height of steps - my motor skill and coordination very poor.
Goodness. Hope you are ok.

I've never worn hard lens... and about 10 years ago I tried to put on contacts again but one of my eyes was very painful. So I never tried again :sad: . Sticking to my glasses 🙂

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MyPillow\" post_id=\"2063124\" time=\"1648640656\" user_id=\"70594:
Anyone know if lasik able to correct both short n long sighted for people who had never done before for short sighted correction - and any age limit for it - in 40s/ 50s still effective or not ?
I had been thinking n pondering since early 30s … hahaha[/b]
Laser eye surgery can be used to correct for long or short sightedness. HOWEVER, if you want to do for both, the solution is similar to the contact lens option in para 1, i.e. one eye will be corrected for long and the other eye correct for short. The option / concept / procedure is called monovision. It is not a perfect solution, plus there are a number of side effects. You can google monovision to read up.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063133https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063133Wed, 30 Mar 2022 14:34:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Laohuayan or Presbyopia - Options? on Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:19:18 GMT]]>Mp, I think there is some sort of implant contact lenses which is reversible unlike lasik. You may want to check it out.


I I didn’t buy many coz seldom wear also dunno suitable or not. So I tried 2 types …one normal and one moist (supposed to be better I think). Nowadays wearing specs is convenient

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MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2062939\" time=\"1648525208\" user_id=\"43981:

Ckr2, asking abt contact lenses? Maybe you can try disposable ones first. Basically is having a lower degree lenses on one eye so that can see near and use/depend on the other eye at correct degree to see far..the first time wearing it better not in office or just bring a pair of specs along..just in case you need some time to adjust.

Will not fall..for me I feel very comfortable in fact fm 1st time wearing it coz was quite worry initially. Think the issue may be dry eyes if you have high astig for eg..coz the 'focal' point if slightly off may not go back to position fast.
So how many boxes did u buy , it’s two sides diff degree , esp the eye for near vision - the normal degree need to drop a lot for the contact lens right ?
Now adays , my eyes are easily dry too due - am wearing more glasses but long sighted creeping in n affecting me.

Anyone know if lasik able to correct both short n long sighted for people who had never done before for short sighted correction - and any age limit for it - in 40s/ 50s still effective or not ?
I had been thinking n pondering since early 30s … hahaha

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063124https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063124Wed, 30 Mar 2022 11:44:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Laohuayan or Presbyopia - Options? on Wed, 30 Mar 2022 05:05:16 GMT]]>I wear hard lens as I have astig.


Tumbled down a flight of steps years back when I wore glasses instead of lens. Not used and misjudge the height of steps - my motor skill and coordination very poor.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063070https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063070Wed, 30 Mar 2022 05:05:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Laohuayan or Presbyopia - Options? on Tue, 29 Mar 2022 12:10:33 GMT]]>Only when exceeded the power for astig then 1 eye solve 1 issue, I remember.

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floppy\" post_id=\"2062984\" time=\"1648539735\" user_id=\"97579:

They are called multifocal contact lenses.
All the major brands should carry / offer them.
Thanks. Anyone tried and are they comfortable?

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