Public Transporation In Singapore

Reply to Public Transporation In Singapore on Thu, 27 Oct 2011 09:42:58 GMT

kayetch — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 09:42:58 GMT

i’m not going into technical definitions, but i speak fr my own experience of both commuting on public tpt and driving the last 10 years. Judging from the public debates, I dont think i’m alone.

Here, we’re not talking about mid-level managers executing instructions. I’m referring to people who formulate policies and map out implementation of these policies. I’m not a civil servant but these i’m sure are not mid-level job.

Reply to Public Transporation In Singapore on Thu, 27 Oct 2011 02:36:32 GMT

3Boys — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 02:36:32 GMT

kayetch:
Public transport requires long term planning. It's quite clear for me that the current state is either a result of un coordinated public policies or poor judgment of the past transport \"managers\". Overcoming the serious overcrowding and un-predictability of public transportation will require very long and disruptive actions.

Define \"serious overcrowding\" and \"unpredictability\".....

How much should a middle level civil servant in the ministry of transport be paid, and how do you think that would drive performance?

Only asking since it appears you have some ideas.

Reply to Public Transporation In Singapore on Thu, 27 Oct 2011 01:36:21 GMT

concern2 — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 01:36:21 GMT

kayetch:
Public transport requires long term planning. It's quite clear for me that the current state is either a result of un coordinated public policies or poor judgment of the past transport \"managers\". Overcoming the serious overcrowding and un-predictability of public transportation will require very long and disruptive actions.

As such, just like how banks perf bonus are now being scrutinized, the same should apply to key staff in LTA & the Transport Ministry. The effectiveness and accuracy of the policy will only be visible several yrs post implentation, so the rewards for perf should accordingly be realized at such a time.

I hope there is a proper review not just for ministers salaries but also for those in the hierarchy that support formulation and implementation of policies.

:goodpost:

Reply to Public Transporation In Singapore on Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:35:03 GMT

kayetch — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:35:03 GMT

Public transport requires long term planning. It’s quite clear for me that the current state is either a result of un coordinated public policies or poor judgment of the past transport "managers". Overcoming the serious overcrowding and un-predictability of public transportation will require very long and disruptive actions.

As such, just like how banks perf bonus are now being scrutinized, the same should apply to key staff in LTA & the Transport Ministry. The effectiveness and accuracy of the policy will only be visible several yrs post implentation, so the rewards for perf should accordingly be realized at such a time.

I hope there is a proper review not just for ministers salaries but also for those in the hierarchy that support formulation and implementation of policies.

Reply to Public Transporation In Singapore on Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:14:34 GMT

LOLMum — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:14:34 GMT

It is much easier to take train or bus if you dont live in or just outside city centre in foreign land, IMO.

Was on bus (not in spore) and a lady came on board with pram but there was another parked in the area meant for pram n wheelchairs. It was a shouting match peppered with colorful words :oops: when one party refused to move a bit for both prams to be parked properly. Bus driver wasn't bothered and didn't get involved.

Some pp have been calling for a ban on parents with prams from taking the trains and buses during peak hours.

Reply to Public Transporation In Singapore on Thu, 20 Oct 2011 15:41:03 GMT

veraclari — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 15:41:03 GMT

frankly,personally, thus far, I've always taken cab when I'm with a baby and with my pram. but I've seen and helped some mothers struggling with their prams which are worrying since some seem to not be able to balance so many things incl .pram while carrying their babies while boarding or alighting buses.

I'm not saying that it's ok for those with pram to block the whole walkway, or recklessly ramping others with their prams which I've also encountered before. but if if we try to be more considerate, parents with prams included, I'm sure perhaps something can be worked out. like some who stand and place the pram where the area for wheel chairs are so they wouldn't block the whole walkway on the buses?
like some others hv shared earlier, there are of course different arguments and reasons... but sometimes, I think comparing to some European cultures/countries, there is more we can do to help/provide to those who need a bit more assistance on board public transport.

Reply to Public Transporation In Singapore on Thu, 20 Oct 2011 15:15:44 GMT

LOLMum — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 15:15:44 GMT

Meanwhile pick up some m.i.w along the way. Ie. if they are willing to travel like the 小人物.

Reply to Public Transporation In Singapore on Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:53:07 GMT

pinky — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:53:07 GMT

concern2:
Oppsgal:
I would prefer to see what is being improve, rather than just to see his photos appear again to show he is taking the public transport.

Give Mr. $$ (Lui) a chance lah. He's been in the ivory tower for too long already...
Maybe he's already formulating solutions in his mind while he's waiting :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah:

better still drive the train personally to understand what 'technical fault' is about and how to cut down on the occurence :evil: :evil:

Reply to Public Transporation In Singapore on Thu, 20 Oct 2011 12:36:44 GMT

concern2 — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 12:36:44 GMT

It is seriously NOT CONVENIENT carrying prams onto the buses. I’ve carried folded strollers and it’s already very obstructing. Don’t expect to be able to ‘push’ them in there!

Reply to Public Transporation In Singapore on Thu, 20 Oct 2011 10:08:37 GMT

LOLMum — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 10:08:37 GMT

with the giant prams most pp are using now, it is impossible to take it up the bus folded or unfolded cos of the narrow passageway.

boarding at the exit door is fine provided there is room for the parent to park the pram unfolded.

Reply to Public Transporation In Singapore on Thu, 20 Oct 2011 09:55:29 GMT

hquek — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 09:55:29 GMT

There’s always many sides to anything. I’ve seen prams in MRT that are open - taking up a lot of space, and the baby/kid is NOT in the pram. But that’s MRT.

Anyway, buses have fairly narrow walkways. To have a pram that is open, would that not invite more trouble if pp have to squeeze past the pram to get to the end of the bus?

Reply to Public Transporation In Singapore on Thu, 20 Oct 2011 09:43:44 GMT

veraclari — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 09:43:44 GMT

hi hi,

for me, besides the care and convenience of those who need more assistance, am concern with the fact that parents are not allowed to bring unfolded/open prams on board buses.

yes, i agree that there are inconsiderate parents who ramp their prams onto others, or justblock the whole, walkways etc. however, that shouldn’t stop other considerate parents from using it?

those who hv voiced against it, hv theyconsidered the fact that tocarry a baby, or a sleepingtoddler, a bag, and pram singly is quite a balancing act that puts the parent andbaby at risk?

some may say, buy a car? which is really not easily affordable… take A cab! but, cab is not always the most convenient, and for someine like me who has more kids, soon iwould need to take, 2 cabs? and o jugle wih a baby is not easy.not to mention that sometimes u cn’t even book a cab successfully?

public transport isn’t it meant for all? incl. those less fortunate who need more help? unlike european c 'tries where the less abled and parent with prams are helped by the public and the bus /tram drivers, here, they are not even being helped many a times. even taxi drivers. how’s that for a gracious society?

just some ransom thoughts…

Reply to Public Transporation In Singapore on Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:41:56 GMT

verykiasu2010 — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:41:56 GMT

LOLMum:
no lah, dont think he has been in ivory tower for long. at least he is more hands on and keen to do something unlike many others.

so :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah:

at least mr $$ (Lui) is seen to be around compared with the predecessor Mr Remote Lord (RL) :rotflmao:

Reply to Public Transporation In Singapore on Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:18:18 GMT

LOLMum — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:18:18 GMT

no lah, dont think he has been in ivory tower for long. at least he is more hands on and keen to do something unlike many others.

so :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah:

Reply to Public Transporation In Singapore on Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:15:28 GMT

concern2 — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:15:28 GMT

Oppsgal:
I would prefer to see what is being improve, rather than just to see his photos appear again to show he is taking the public transport.

Give Mr. $$ (Lui) a chance lah. He's been in the ivory tower for too long already...
Maybe he's already formulating solutions in his mind while he's waiting :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah:

Reply to Public Transporation In Singapore on Thu, 20 Oct 2011 07:51:08 GMT

dolphinsiah — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 07:51:08 GMT

Recently , our trains service breakdown quite often and also encountered Security issues....

This is my thoughts as Singapore Population is booming fast....

I think our Public transport trains and buses services should not be run by only two Operaters SMRT and SBS....

This 2 operaters keep on saying it is so difficult to employ Drivers...blah...blah....

So if it so difficult, the Government should issue more licenses .....to create more competiton ....

If not SMRT and SBS always think they are big shots......Train breakdown...fine lor
Security Breach...fine lor.....

Keep on testing the Locals patient :mad: .....if it is Oversea...I think the CEO would be Sack.....
Hello PAP...wake up!!!!

Reply to Public Transporation In Singapore on Thu, 20 Oct 2011 06:49:30 GMT

Oppsgal — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 06:49:30 GMT

I would prefer to see what is being improve, rather than just to see his photos appear again to show he is taking the public transport.

Reply to Public Transporation In Singapore on Thu, 20 Oct 2011 05:58:59 GMT

pinky — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 05:58:59 GMT

LOLMum:
Transport Minister sighted at Bishan Circle Line station

Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011
AsiaOne

Transport Minister Lui Tuck Yew was sighted observing the operations at Bishan Circle Line station this morning by a Stomp reader.

The recently opened Circle Line, 10 years in the making, has witnessed some birthing pains, including overcrowding and train service breakdowns.

However, it seemed as if the situation has improved, the reader observed.

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from the pictures submitted by the reader, it seemed that Mr Liu was on his own and not with a whole bunch of staff. :rahrah: :rahrah:

couldnt board the train because too crowded??? :rotflmao:

Reply to Public Transporation In Singapore on Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:23:57 GMT

LOLMum — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:23:57 GMT

Transport Minister sighted at Bishan Circle Line station

Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011
AsiaOne

Transport Minister Lui Tuck Yew was sighted observing the operations at Bishan Circle Line station this morning by a Stomp reader.

The recently opened Circle Line, 10 years in the making, has witnessed some birthing pains, including overcrowding and train service breakdowns.

However, it seemed as if the situation has improved, the reader observed.

http://i55.tinypic.com/20kds2h.jpg\">

http://i51.tinypic.com/fojdxt.jpg\">

from the pictures submitted by the reader, it seemed that Mr Liu was on his own and not with a whole bunch of staff. :rahrah: :rahrah:

Reply to Public Transporation In Singapore on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 02:17:14 GMT

concern2 — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 02:17:14 GMT

verykiasu2010:
blueblue:
[quote=\"verykiasu2010\"]
many of us are not talented to pour cement, climb scaffolding, build formwork and bend iron bar, serve tables, cook and clean, drives buses and lori, clear tables and rubbish dump
If we called them talented, what do we call those singaporeans who also serve tables, drive bus, cook and clean etc..

I thought they are always labelled as blue collar workers? Why the difference? Problem is that because of these two words, some of the so called talented PRs thought the world of themselves, looking down at Singaporeans. (not saying all of them)

naturally they are local singaporean talent[/quote]Everyone, regardless of what they do (as long as it is decent work), contributes to the well-being and sustainability and growth of the country, hence everyone should be appreciated and respected for doing an honest days' work. It is when the money one makes is perceived to make one more superior than another that one start to 'look down' on 'blue-collar' jobs and gives room for opportunists to colonize our society. I know of many whom value respect over money, as they know their own abilities are limited (没有资格）。 However， because of how our society discriminates on them, it sometimes make them feel 'shameful' to take up those jobs...

Reply to Public Transporation In Singapore on Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:43:35 GMT

verykiasu2010 — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:43:35 GMT

blueblue:
verykiasu2010:
[quote=\"blueblue\"]

I tot foreign trash refers to those who can easily obtain PR but are not the so called talents..don't think foreign workers and labourers can apply for PR anyway..
many of us are not talented to pour cement, climb scaffolding, build formwork and bend iron bar, serve tables, cook and clean, drives buses and lori, clear tables and rubbish dump

If we called them talented, what do we call those singaporeans who also serve tables, drive bus, cook and clean etc..

I thought they are always labelled as blue collar workers? Why the difference? Problem is that because of these two words, some of the so called talented PRs thought the world of themselves, looking down at Singaporeans. (not saying all of them)[/quote]naturally they are local singaporean talent

Reply to Public Transporation In Singapore on Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:40:50 GMT

blueblue — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:40:50 GMT

verykiasu2010:
blueblue:

I tot foreign trash refers to those who can easily obtain PR but are not the so called talents..don't think foreign workers and labourers can apply for PR anyway..
many of us are not talented to pour cement, climb scaffolding, build formwork and bend iron bar, serve tables, cook and clean, drives buses and lori, clear tables and rubbish dump

If we called them talented, what do we call those singaporeans who also serve tables, drive bus, cook and clean etc..

I thought they are always labelled as blue collar workers? Why the difference? Problem is that because of these two words, some of the so called talented PRs thought the world of themselves, looking down at Singaporeans. (not saying all of them)

Reply to Public Transporation In Singapore on Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:15:13 GMT

verykiasu2010 — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:15:13 GMT

blueblue:

I tot foreign trash refers to those who can easily obtain PR but are not the so called talents..don't think foreign workers and labourers can apply for PR anyway..

many of us are not talented to pour cement, climb scaffolding, build formwork and bend iron bar, serve tables, cook and clean, drives buses and lori, clear tables and rubbish dump

Reply to Public Transporation In Singapore on Sat, 15 Oct 2011 08:14:38 GMT

just888 — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 08:14:38 GMT

I am unable to board the trains to marina in peak hours at Khatib station, hence needs to take train to Sembawang to ensure that I can "enter" the train.