Should burning of incense papers be banned in HDB

Reply to Should burning of incense papers be banned in HDB on Sun, 08 Oct 2017 23:11:37 GMT

Huiwen86 — Sun, 08 Oct 2017 23:11:37 GMT

I usually close my windows and switch on the air purifier/fan if people are burning in the neighborhood.

Just give and take lol…We are living in Singapore where land space is scarce and in close proximity with others who are of different faiths.Unlike in Malaysia where the country space is bigger and more free to do whatever you want e.g. planting fruit trees.My dad has several fruit trees planted outside his house and burns incense papers without any problems for decades.

Even the people who own cars can just park their cars freely outside their houses over here.

Reply to Should burning of incense papers be banned in HDB on Tue, 03 Oct 2017 01:02:18 GMT

vinegar — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 01:02:18 GMT

Though there r laws, rules in place, my observation is that it lacks of reliable, effective enforcement.

Reply to Should burning of incense papers be banned in HDB on Tue, 03 Oct 2017 00:45:19 GMT

pokoyoko — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 00:45:19 GMT

Nebbermind:
pokoyoko:
Nebbermind are you an engineer? Is it possible?

Can ask the poly kids to do it as a project.

:xedfingers:

Reply to Should burning of incense papers be banned in HDB on Tue, 03 Oct 2017 00:42:30 GMT

Nebbermind — Tue, 03 Oct 2017 00:42:30 GMT

pokoyoko:
Nebbermind are you an engineer? Is it possible?

Can ask the poly kids to do it as a project.

Reply to Should burning of incense papers be banned in HDB on Mon, 02 Oct 2017 23:56:25 GMT

limlim — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 23:56:25 GMT

pokoyoko:
Zeit:
This thread started in 2011. Looks like people are still burning outside their units, and nothing's been done to get people to go to the common bins.

Can't destory this thousand-year-old rite huh.
How about we have new high tech bins where the smoke is extracted from the bins and filtered from harmful particles before being released into the air? Like a giant air purifier? Maybe in another 10 years... haha.. I understand the need but wondering if technology can help make it better :rotflmao:

The technology is definitely there and it is surely technically feasible. (Some factories have those infrastructures to remove contamination before releasing exhaust to the surrounding).

But it is not worth the investment. Incense burning is not a \"general necessity\" like refuse disposal.

Reply to Should burning of incense papers be banned in HDB on Mon, 02 Oct 2017 12:15:34 GMT

pokoyoko — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 12:15:34 GMT

Nebbermind are you an engineer? Is it possible?

Reply to Should burning of incense papers be banned in HDB on Mon, 02 Oct 2017 07:13:02 GMT

Nebbermind — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 07:13:02 GMT

Zeit:
pokoyoko:
[quote=\"Zeit\"]This thread started in 2011. Looks like people are still burning outside their units, and nothing's been done to get people to go to the common bins.

Can't destory this thousand-year-old rite huh.
How about we have new high tech bins where the smoke is extracted from the bins and filtered from harmful particles before being released into the air? Like a giant air purifier? Maybe in another 10 years... haha.. I understand the need but wondering if technology can help make it better :rotflmao:

Haha..only heard that they are piloting the pneumatic waste system in some HDB estates and newer condos, but that's for refuse/recyclables not incense!

https://s1.postimg.org/3a6lzbv6en/NORTHSHORE6e_2x.jpg\">

For high tech hoods for soot, you need to seek the expertise of crematorium operators, I guess?[/quote]Actually I was thinking similar...self powered by the heat generated or solarge. ..some sort of turbine drawing the fume into a water baseductive filtration system

Reply to Should burning of incense papers be banned in HDB on Mon, 02 Oct 2017 06:37:23 GMT

Zeit — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 06:37:23 GMT

pokoyoko:
Zeit:
This thread started in 2011. Looks like people are still burning outside their units, and nothing's been done to get people to go to the common bins.

Can't destory this thousand-year-old rite huh.
How about we have new high tech bins where the smoke is extracted from the bins and filtered from harmful particles before being released into the air? Like a giant air purifier? Maybe in another 10 years... haha.. I understand the need but wondering if technology can help make it better :rotflmao:

Reply to Should burning of incense papers be banned in HDB on Mon, 02 Oct 2017 05:24:51 GMT

pokoyoko — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 05:24:51 GMT

Zeit:
This thread started in 2011. Looks like people are still burning outside their units, and nothing's been done to get people to go to the common bins.

Can't destory this thousand-year-old rite huh.

How about we have new high tech bins where the smoke is extracted from the bins and filtered from harmful particles before being released into the air? Like a giant air purifier? Maybe in another 10 years... haha.. I understand the need but wondering if technology can help make it better :rotflmao:

Reply to Should burning of incense papers be banned in HDB on Mon, 02 Oct 2017 05:22:57 GMT

Zeit — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 05:22:57 GMT

janet88:
Zeit:
This thread started in 2011. Looks like people are still burning outside their units, and nothing's been done to get people to go to the common bins.
people ARE burning outside their flats in their metal bins. that's why the corner unit is still keeping her metal bin.

OT: why can't town council ban residents from hanging clothes outside their flats? the corridors do not belong to the residents.

HDB'd posted the rules on laundry and incense burning practices on their website:

http://www.hdb.gov.sg/cs/infoweb/business/industrial/managing-your-tenancy/house-rules

Town councillors seldom bother themselves with such religious rites unless the immediate neighbours complain.

I suspect people conduct the rites outside their units because they want to eat the offerings (roast duck, fruits, buns, dumplings) after the rites. Otherwise, I don't see any difference in burning downstairs versus outside one's unit.

Reply to Should burning of incense papers be banned in HDB on Mon, 02 Oct 2017 04:41:22 GMT

janet88 — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 04:41:22 GMT

Zeit:
This thread started in 2011. Looks like people are still burning outside their units, and nothing's been done to get people to go to the common bins.

people ARE burning outside their flats in their metal bins. that's why the corner unit is still keeping her metal bin.

OT: why can't town council ban residents from hanging clothes outside their flats? the corridors do not belong to the residents.

Reply to Should burning of incense papers be banned in HDB on Mon, 02 Oct 2017 04:10:23 GMT

Zeit — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 04:10:23 GMT

This thread started in 2011. Looks like people are still burning outside their units, and nothing’s been done to get people to go to the common bins.

Can’t destory this thousand-year-old rite huh.

Reply to Should burning of incense papers be banned in HDB on Mon, 02 Oct 2017 03:41:19 GMT

limlim — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 03:41:19 GMT

mum422:
actually is there a point to burn these papers right in front of your house? More good luck etc??

Laziness/convenient. pretty much nothing else.

Reply to Should burning of incense papers be banned in HDB on Mon, 02 Oct 2017 03:40:35 GMT

limlim — Mon, 02 Oct 2017 03:40:35 GMT

vinegar:
My neighbour oso same as yours. They burn it right at doorstep. We r dr to dr unit. After burning, they splashed the water to sweep the dirt towards our side an all our shoes get wet. Town council said they cannot do anything, not even can issue warning letter as it is not against any rules, despite the drainage always choke with the debris

Not against any rules?

Fire hazard is against HDB rules. There is designated burning area within the estate, burning at common corridor is definitely against the rules, if I'm not mistaken.

Tell the TC, if fire broke out, there are going to take full responsibility? since they didn't do anything about the fire hazard.

meanwhile, ask HDB whether there is any comments. And maybe try SCDF also?

Wind any carry burning bits of paper all over the place. Ask SCDF whether this is fire hazard.

Reply to Should burning of incense papers be banned in HDB on Sat, 30 Sep 2017 05:26:01 GMT

mum422 — Sat, 30 Sep 2017 05:26:01 GMT

actually is there a point to burn these papers right in front of your house? More good luck etc??

Reply to Should burning of incense papers be banned in HDB on Sat, 30 Sep 2017 01:59:56 GMT

janet88 — Sat, 30 Sep 2017 01:59:56 GMT

my neighbour has a metal bin outside her flat which she uses to burn incense at certain times of the year. fortunately her flat is in the other corner, so it doesn’t affect me. the wind doesn’t blow in the direction of my flat.

Reply to Should burning of incense papers be banned in HDB on Sat, 30 Sep 2017 01:56:27 GMT

vinegar — Sat, 30 Sep 2017 01:56:27 GMT

My neighbour oso same as yours. They burn it right at doorstep. We r dr to dr unit. After burning, they splashed the water to sweep the dirt towards our side an all our shoes get wet. Town council said they cannot do anything, not even can issue warning letter as it is not against any rules, despite the drainage always choke with the debris

Reply to Should burning of incense papers be banned in HDB on Sat, 30 Sep 2017 01:49:43 GMT

Funz — Sat, 30 Sep 2017 01:49:43 GMT

Burning of incense paper is not limited to the 7th lunar month.

Used to have a neighbour who burns incense paper 2-3 times a month. There is a designated burning area within the estate but this neighbour likes to burn her right on the patio and hers is the last unit of the block. Instead of putting the bin at the other end of the patio she puts it nearer to my unit. Guess the other end of the patio would have been right outside the master bedroom.

While I do not think there should be a ban since these are religious practises, maybe a better designed burning area, with some 'grandeur', away from the blocks can be built. Plant more shrubs and bushes around the estate to discourage residents from burning the offerings on the grass. More can be done to encourage residents to burn their offerings at the designated area. Maybe create some rah-rah at the burning area, get some Taoist priest to do some rites there. Who knows, might give people the impression that it is blessed and thus better to burn there than anywhere else. :idea:

Reply to Should burning of incense papers be banned in HDB on Sat, 30 Sep 2017 01:00:13 GMT

janet88 — Sat, 30 Sep 2017 01:00:13 GMT

if the bins are improved such that the soot doesn’t fly up, i believe it should be ok…but the problem is some residents don’t burn inside the bins. residents who live on the low floors suffer.

Reply to Should burning of incense papers be banned in HDB on Fri, 29 Sep 2017 15:05:38 GMT

phtthp — Fri, 29 Sep 2017 15:05:38 GMT

Big fish:
I have an asthmatic child and everytime someone burns incense papers at downstair, I will have to rush to close all the windows. The smoke will linger in the air for so long before I can open the windows again. I am interested to know whether anyone of you are bothered by this problem.

Is the government scared to offend these people and dared not ban this practise?

People were fined for littering and doing corrective works, but why nothing is done to this act of inconsideration? It pollutes the air and look at the litters around............

( No racist comments and this post is created purely out of health concerns)

There are 12 months, in one year.

HDB residents only burn incense paper during the hungry ghost festival, last about 1 month at most.
Remaining months : 11 out of 12 months, nobody burn any incense paper

Let it be, since is the tradition of the Taoists believers to burn paper $, burn food, burn paper houses, burn paper cars, to their loved ones living in another world, so that they can receive

Reply to Should burning of incense papers be banned in HDB on Sun, 30 Mar 2014 03:52:14 GMT

addice — Sun, 30 Mar 2014 03:52:14 GMT

jetsetter:
Eh, they didn't say may or can, did they?

Best to check with their town council la...I thought they have bylaws?

And maybe try to understand what's their neighbours' gripe. For all you know, some of them might be suffering from respiratory problems or have sensitive eyes. Wind direction is different all year round, so no one should assume that the ashes are forever blown back into one's own abode

All the best!

My neighbour's gripe? For what I know, they're a healthy bunch of people (The HDB would have let us known the other time they came to make trouble). How to live with this kind of neighbour? Sigh.

Reply to Should burning of incense papers be banned in HDB on Sun, 30 Mar 2014 02:19:16 GMT

jetsetter — Sun, 30 Mar 2014 02:19:16 GMT

Eh, they didn't say may or can, did they?

Best to check with their town council la...I thought they have bylaws?

And maybe try to understand what's their neighbours' gripe. For all you know, some of them might be suffering from respiratory problems or have sensitive eyes. Wind direction is different all year round, so no one should assume that the ashes are forever blown back into one's own abode

All the best!

Reply to Should burning of incense papers be banned in HDB on Sun, 30 Mar 2014 01:56:50 GMT

addice — Sun, 30 Mar 2014 01:56:50 GMT

Nebbermind:
Time to invent smokeless incense!

That would be a nice invention

Reply to Should burning of incense papers be banned in HDB on Sun, 30 Mar 2014 01:50:28 GMT

addice — Sun, 30 Mar 2014 01:50:28 GMT

jetsetter:
addice:
[quote=\"limlim\"]They shd burn it at the designate burning area.

Not within the HDB building.
Hi limlim,
Thanks for the input. Based on what you said for the first sentence, it's legit as also mentioned in the NEA website:
http://www.ifaq.gov.sg/nea/apps/fcd_faq ... #FAQ_31167

But \"not within the hdb building\" is not a must, isn't it? So essentially, it's not a \"law\" per-sae, right?

But making use of the \"burning pits and containers provided by the town councils\" is a must, says NEA.
[/quote]Hi jetsetter, where is this source where using these is a must?
I searched NEA sites and it says should (different English grammar that makes the difference). Read this again from
http://www.ifaq.gov.sg/NEA/apps/fcd_faq ... #FAQ_31167

Residents in town council estates should make use of the burning pits and containers provided by the town councils.