michyms:

Chenoceau, I am horrified by such a request! I hope it's because the CL teacher wants to expose the students and not because she is too lazy to make her own notes :faint:

Mawar:

So did the kids share esp those who attend branded enrichment centers? :rotflmao:

concern2:

Chenonceau:

DS came home yesterday and told me that his CL Teacher had asked the whole class to hand up the materials provided by their tuition teachers so that she could compile a booklet and give out to the class.


If this does not show that MOE is lacking in educational resources and methods, I dunno what does.

:scared: like that also can ah!?

Chenonceau:

DS came home yesterday and told me that his CL Teacher had asked the whole class to hand up the materials provided by their tuition teachers so that she could compile a booklet and give out to the class.


If this does not show that MOE is lacking in educational resources and methods, I dunno what does.

coast:

Oppsgal:

Wish the educational system can remove unnecessary subject such as history, literature etc..so more time can be spent on those major subjects.


If history subject can be simply into summary version will be good. :frustrated: Hard to remember anything after years later since not much of this is used in work life.

Hope you don't mind but I strongly believe in a holistic education. There is alot to learn from history, literature, ... a master in major subjects does not equate a successful career. Many skills \"essential\" for success (well, what is successful to begin with) are not \"learnt' from \"core\" subjects.

You certainly have your reasons being frustrated (and I think I would agree on those reasons too). But there should be other ways to resolve those issues than removing history, literature ...

Funz:

Oppsgal:

Wish the educational system can remove unnecessary subject such as history, literature etc..so more time can be spent on those major subjects.


If history subject can be simply into summary version will be good. :frustrated: Hard to remember anything after years later since not much of this is used in work life.

Humanities have their place in the educational system. Literature builds one's flair for the language which may pave the way for a law/mass comm/advertising career. History is good for, law/political/social studies.

I on the other hand am still wondering why was I taught stuff like tangent, co-tangent, sin, cosin in E math. Haha but if the only teach general application stuff they will end up with nothing to teach.

Oppsgal:

Wish the educational system can remove unnecessary subject such as history, literature etc..so more time can be spent on those major subjects.

Musings:

Not saying there is nothing to improve with school system but my point is no matter wonderful the school system, there will always be a need for tuition. At least I know my kids still need it.

Oppsgal:

Wish the educational system can remove unnecessary subject such as history, literature etc..so more time can be spent on those major subjects.


If history subject can be simply into summary version will be good. :frustrated: Hard to remember anything after years later since not much of this is used in work life.

coast:

Oppsgal:

Wish the educational system can remove unnecessary subject such as history, literature etc..so more time can be spent on those major subjects.


If history subject can be simply into summary version will be good. :frustrated: Hard to remember anything after years later since not much of this is used in work life.

Hope you don't mind but I strongly believe in a holistic education. There is alot to learn from history, literature, ... a master in major subjects does not equate a successful career. Many skills \"essential\" for success (well, what is successful to begin with) are not \"learnt' from \"core\" subjects.

You certainly have your reasons being frustrated (and I think I would agree on those reasons too). But there should be other ways to resolve those issues than removing history, literature ...

coast:

I am impressed with MOE minister Heng Swee Keat's insight. A lot of what he said makes sense (how the schools implement the policies is another issue). But I cannot help but feel that MOE might overlook certain issues due to wrong assumptions. E.g., does MOE have the statistics on tuition/ enrichment (80% of our kids? 90%? average money spent per kid on tuition?). Is it really the schools cannot do anything about the over-reliance on external help/ resources? Yes certain parents will always send their kids to expensive tuition/ enrichment no matter what. But we came from a system that VERY FEW relied on tuition during our days ... why such an over-reliance now? We need to explore in depth the issues raised and analysed the statistics and try to do something about it. Otherwise, it is very unfair for kids whose parents cannot afford the time to home tuition or time/ money to send their kids for tuition/ enrichment. As for the many parents who are doing it extensively now, at what price? Not just the $$$ but how it impacts the child's balanced life?

Oppsgal:

Wish the educational system can remove unnecessary subject such as history, literature etc..so more time can be spent on those major subjects.


If history subject can be simply into summary version will be good. :frustrated: Hard to remember anything after years later since not much of this is used in work life.

Chenonceau:

coast:

[quote=\"jenao\"]

Its a start and I also like what is see, though I see it as more cosmetic than working on the core issues like difficult syllabus and insufficient teaching materials/resources. And i hope it will not be a long long while ie years later before they start looking into the core issues, at the rate they are going. Though we need to be patient because we cannot rush though the review and they must be thorough, I do hope that they address critical issues first. As it is, the mindset is such that you need to get external resources to do well and this mindset will not be easily reversed unless more it done to the system. At the end of the day, its the psle that matters and as such, these core issues should be addressed first and take center stage.

:goodpost: I like what I saw initially too. It is certainly the right direction to focus on values and character and to make every school a good school. We need to be patient for changes to take place. However, as I read more ST articles on education recently, I cannot help asking myself - did MOE disregard or put on hold certain issues? Maybe they do have valid reasons but it would be good to knowing their rationale and assumptions.

coast:

jenao:

[quote=\"Chenonceau\"]

It's a start. We can only be patient and work with our MOE.

Its a start and I also like what is see, though I see it as more cosmetic than working on the core issues like difficult syllabus and insufficient teaching materials/resources. And i hope it will not be a long long while ie years later before they start looking into the core issues, at the rate they are going. Though we need to be patient because we cannot rush though the review and they must be thorough, I do hope that they address critical issues first. As it is, the mindset is such that you need to get external resources to do well and this mindset will not be easily reversed unless more it done to the system. At the end of the day, its the psle that matters and as such, these core issues should be addressed first and take center stage.

jenao:

Chenonceau:

It's a start. We can only be patient and work with our MOE.

Its a start and I also like what is see, though I see it as more cosmetic than working on the core issues like difficult syllabus and insufficient teaching materials/resources. And i hope it will not be a long long while ie years later before they start looking into the core issues, at the rate they are going. Though we need to be patient because we cannot rush though the review and they must be thorough, I do hope that they address critical issues first. As it is, the mindset is such that you need to get external resources to do well and this mindset will not be easily reversed unless more it done to the system. At the end of the day, its the psle that matters and as such, these core issues should be addressed first and take center stage.

jedamum:

many parents still rely on getting good grades as a form of paving the route to pursuing one's dream/having better job prospect because it opens up the first doors. Singapore education system only supports 'dreams' when you have good grades. if don't have good grades, must have sufficient money to support overseas education. if not for your parent's savings for your bro to go overseas, he could not have possibly smell architecture degree unless he went through the long route via poly (even if so, the COP for o-level for entry to architecture course is quite low).
however, regardless of whatever system, the key is if one is determined to pursue one's dream, nothing can stand in the way (just have to take a longer route).