Would anyone eat Rojak again?

Reply to Would anyone eat Rojak again? on Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:10:09 GMT

MLR — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:10:09 GMT

This reminds me about what DH said about those stalls with very long queues are those often with \"C\" rating, simply becos their biz is so brisk that they simply hv no time to clean asthey go. HAHAHA :roll:

Reply to Would anyone eat Rojak again? on Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:30:13 GMT

ielity — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:30:13 GMT

I think because we are so well trained in eating only clean and healthy food, our stomach are way to pampered for even a little germs.

Usually when we travel abroad, we are told to avoid the roadside food stalls as they may cause diarrhea but guess what? I have friends coming from Vietnam, eating our local food and have diarrhea. Our food is too clean for them!

Reply to Would anyone eat Rojak again? on Thu, 09 Apr 2009 02:49:06 GMT

RRMummy — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 02:49:06 GMT

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Reply to Would anyone eat Rojak again? on Thu, 09 Apr 2009 02:36:03 GMT

super_dad — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 02:36:03 GMT

RRMummy:
HI sashimi and super_dad, fyi melamine is the content that was in the major China milk scandal. It is a plastic but when analyzed will show the same peaks as protein. So those 'creative' idiots put in loads of it to pass of the cheap poisonous stuff as high quality (very expensive = high profit) milk powder.

Man! just thinking about it still make me boil.. :x the things people are willing to do in the name of MONEY!! :x What were they thinking - going to such extent as putting poison into FOOD.. baby's FOOD!! :x

Hi RRMummy,

hehe..we know. Just joking about how people will forget easily after a couple of months. :lol:

Thanks for the info though.

Reply to Would anyone eat Rojak again? on Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:47:12 GMT

RRMummy — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:47:12 GMT

HI sashimi and super_dad, fyi melamine is the content that was in the major China milk scandal. It is a plastic but when analyzed will show the same peaks as protein. So those ‘creative’ idiots put in loads of it to pass of the cheap poisonous stuff as high quality (very expensive = high profit) milk powder.

Man! just thinking about it still make me boil… :x the things people are willing to do in the name of MONEY!! :x What were they thinking - going to such extent as putting poison into FOOD… baby’s FOOD!! :x

Reply to Would anyone eat Rojak again? on Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:55:07 GMT

sashimi — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:55:07 GMT

buds:
By the way, sashimi...

Thought i read abt the KFC thingy earlier
(from your earlier posting, but think it was
removed...) Anyway, just to share with you
that after reading your \"...why the chicken
always so meaty and stuff....\" i went straight
to KFC and insisted on the meatiest meal!

Made me hungry leh...

Wah lao, anata wa sucker for punishment desu....!

Anyways, just now I was passing by bt batok s11 kopitiam to buy dinner, walked past the Indian stall and noticed lots of rojak stock on the shelves, felt quite sorry for the stall owners. I mean, in the same kopitiam, the economical rice stall got smokers and sneezers and the zhi char stall got smokers aplenty. What a fair world.

Reply to Would anyone eat Rojak again? on Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:33:03 GMT

buds — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:33:03 GMT

By the way, sashimi…

Thought i read abt the KFC thingy earlier
(from your earlier posting, but think it was
removed…) Anyway, just to share with you
that after reading your "…why the chicken
always so meaty and stuff…" i went straight
to KFC and insisted on the meatiest meal!

Made me hungry leh…

Reply to Would anyone eat Rojak again? on Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:14:53 GMT

buds — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:14:53 GMT

Yeah, i like rojak lah…

I suppose the vendors
will be extra extra careful.
Mebbe not prepare so much
in advance and placed out in
open shelving space for too
long… Where there’s incident
there will be improvements in
place… Where there are mishaps
there will be cause for reflection…

I still went back to Prima Deli for
their cakes. Its yummy and rather
affordable. Suppose the one off
scare was enough to get it right
the following time… No one is
shy from mistakes and some
say "**it happens…" so sooner
or later people will get over it…

Besides for me, i believe in
2nd chances. It is unfortunate
that two of our fellow people
had to pay the price of this
lesson no doubt - with their
lives… so now, its in the light
of this, we hope more vendors
will not shortchange us customers
by serving everything stuff fresh…

On the other hand, had it been
me or my loved ones involved
in the unwanted mishaps, i may
have a different opinion to this
entirely…

I’m sharing prayers and thoughts
for the ones we have lost from this
unwanted tragedy… i am sure their
families are going through a rough
time recovering from this.

Reply to Would anyone eat Rojak again? on Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:05:53 GMT

Manu — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:05:53 GMT

i bet to differ as this case as it's quite localised. until it's proven that the cause is human err or overlooked if not it'll create some fear among us.

however, sad to hear 2 lives just gone like that.
hope the rest could recover soon and the cause of the death could b out soon.

From Ryan

Reply to Would anyone eat Rojak again? on Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:43:40 GMT

super_dad — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:43:40 GMT

You are right.. People have short attention span.

Melamine...what's that? can eat or not? i also don't know. :lol:

Reply to Would anyone eat Rojak again? on Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:20:41 GMT

sashimi — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:20:41 GMT

super_dad:
Guess all the hawkers will be extra careful now.

For the next 3 or so weeks anyway. After that, everyone will go on to the next big news and all this will be forgotten, people will start eating Indian Rojak anyway. Trust me, humanity is like that. Very short attention span and memory.....

Melamine? What's that?

(Sorry don't mean to be mean about this, but it's the truth).

Reply to Would anyone eat Rojak again? on Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:46:22 GMT

super_dad — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:46:22 GMT

hohoho...latest news, the person in coma died.

Reply to Would anyone eat Rojak again? on Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:40:54 GMT

MMM — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:40:54 GMT

I think the store owner must be so worried now. Other indian rojaks sellers are also cursing as they are affected by fear of indian rojaks now.

On the other hand, hearing the news made me wonder what abt those road side stalls in Bangkok? Does people die from eating there? Or we are all so "clean" that we lose our immunity.

Reply to Would anyone eat Rojak again? on Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:26:14 GMT

super_dad — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:26:14 GMT

I think the stall owner will be in serous trouble, having claimed 2 lives…and another one in critical condition. To think I almost wanted to go into the food business…hehe. Yeah, food biz if not hygenic or clean enough…can kill people. Guess all the hawkers will be extra careful now.

Reply to Would anyone eat Rojak again? on Wed, 08 Apr 2009 06:55:20 GMT

sebast — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 06:55:20 GMT

I dont really fancy indian rojak but i would say its the best time to eat now right after this incident reason being indian rojak stall holder will be extra carefully, clean, hygenic with their food due to all the publicity & media that have been keeping watch on them now.

Usually we dont see incident occuring twice in a roll ya.

Reply to Would anyone eat Rojak again? on Wed, 08 Apr 2009 05:38:54 GMT

Piggymum — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 05:38:54 GMT

Never fancy Indian Rojak. I like the normal rojak but come to think about it, the fruits & veg are also left in room temperature for a long time…think I will stay away from Rojak for quite sometimes.

Reply to Would anyone eat Rojak again? on Wed, 08 Apr 2009 05:35:38 GMT

sashimi — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 05:35:38 GMT

EN:
Hmmm...I don't quite like Indian rojak. Everytime I tried to pop them in my mouth, I kept wondering how long has the food been kept & re-heat. There's once dh ordered, he insisted I try & when I did, I told him the gravy is off & he better not eat it.

For us, the stall must look clean, surrounding no smells & I will also look at the person serving/selling them.

Like CSC, I usually will go for those that cook on the spot.

Since this happen, no Indian Rojak for us for a verrrry long time.

Actually, yes, most Indian Rojak is not well-prepared, cos it's all sitting around waiting to be refried.

There is one particular style of Indian rojak though, that seems fresher overall. But I don't know how to describe the difference. The pieces are usually not as bright and oily. I know one at Waterloo Centre.

Mmmmm... actually ah, since this incident, won't it be the case that all Indian Rojak sellers would put in extra effort in their hygiene practices? It would be the other, non-Indian Rojak sellers who would continue to be complacent about hygiene.....

At this point I should not say anything about the stall i despise most, the economical rice stall at S11 at Bt Batok Central, bunch of smokers who sneeze into their food.

Reply to Would anyone eat Rojak again? on Wed, 08 Apr 2009 05:31:14 GMT

sashimi — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 05:31:14 GMT

Ah… I edited out my point about the miscarraige cos it’s very subjective and controversial. But since the subject came up again…

The first day the news broke out, the headline was underlined (subheadline) by the statement that the food poisoning has resulted in 1 coma and 1 miscarraige.

When I read the actual ST article, it said that
1) the mother had went for checkup before eating the rojak, and was depressed cos the doctor said the foetus was weak. The rojak was meant to cheer her up.
2) a doctor was quoted as saying that food poisoning rarely causes miscarriage.

So - my long misgivings about media sensationalism aside - I was quite unimpressed by ST’s casual linking of the food poisoning with the miscarriage. The media is still linking it by the way.

My personal conclusion is that the food poisoning probably contributed to the miscarriage, but I am very hesitant to agree that it CAUSED the miscarriage. That implies it was a healthy foetus which was lost due solely to the food poisoning.

Having said that, I grant that this food poisoning case is very very serious. I’m just against the media sensationalising any part of it.

But again, this is just me. I’m not a medical scientist and I dont’ 'want to overanalyze. Still feeling very sorry for the families who have sufferred because of this.

Reply to Would anyone eat Rojak again? on Wed, 08 Apr 2009 04:32:12 GMT

schellen — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 04:32:12 GMT

EstherTan:
Remember there's also the miscarriage being 'linked' with the rojak...

Like what sashimi said, I don't think the miscarriage was due to the indian rojak cos the foetus was already weak. Probably, the mother was also not strong. We already know that miscarriages in first trimester are actually very common. It's nature's way of telling you that your baby was too weak to survive to full term. (I think this is partly why many women I know don't want to \"broadcast\" that they're pregnant until after the first trimester. Me too.)

About indian rojak, I ate it so many times, even when I was pregnant with DD so I think I'll go by gut instinct and my other senses when buying and before eating.

Reply to Would anyone eat Rojak again? on Wed, 08 Apr 2009 04:26:36 GMT

en107rn.01056yahoo.01056com.01056sg — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 04:26:36 GMT

Hmmm…I don’t quite like Indian rojak. Everytime I tried to pop them in my mouth, I kept wondering how long has the food been kept & re-heat. There’s once dh ordered, he insisted I try & when I did, I told him the gravy is off & he better not eat it.

For us, the stall must look clean, surrounding no smells & I will also look at the person serving/selling them.

Like CSC, I usually will go for those that cook on the spot.

Since this happen, no Indian Rojak for us for a verrrry long time.

Reply to Would anyone eat Rojak again? on Wed, 08 Apr 2009 04:10:36 GMT

EstherTan — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 04:10:36 GMT

Remember there’s also the miscarriage being ‘linked’ with the rojak…

Reply to Would anyone eat Rojak again? on Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:50:07 GMT

sashimi — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:50:07 GMT

csc:
It is Indian Rojak - the newspaper article went into details of how the pieces are refried again and again and how water is being added to the curry to save time and effort from making fresh ones --

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But the fact is.... isn't this common practice? What's ironic is that the issue of hawkers and hygiene is not new. Other than the fact that this incident seems to involve a particularly virulent bacteria(?), it's the media making a big fuss out of it.

If we are truly paranoid, we won't be eating Prima Deli cakes either - I didn't even know about this earlier incident until the papers reported it again in the light of the rojak case.

I am no medical scientist, but I think we have to be careful in any case.

Having said all that I feel very very sorry for Mdm Aminah's tragic death and her family. This is really sad.

But I will continue eating my favouriate Indian Rojak. Because ultimately, it's not a case of the cuisine at fault, but the cook. If the cook is at fault, and the same faults are practised by another cook selling chicken rice, you're just as likely to fall sick eating chicken rice.

EDIT: aiyoh, this is bad. There is a second fatality.

Reply to Would anyone eat Rojak again? on Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:00:42 GMT

csc — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:00:42 GMT

It is Indian Rojak - the newspaper article went into details of how the pieces are refried again and again and how water is being added to the curry to save time and effort from making fresh ones --

Gosh - to think I used to ask for second helping of the curry !!! :stupid:

Reply to Would anyone eat Rojak again? on Wed, 08 Apr 2009 02:47:57 GMT

ChiefKiasu — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 02:47:57 GMT

super_dad:
hehe...I think everyone should know what I am talking about. Come to think of it, Rojak is a \"dangerous\" dish as it is usually not heated before serving. :roll:

I may be wrong as I only glanced at the report, but I thought it was Indian rojak? That's quite cooked before being served, isn't it?