<![CDATA[Models for maths in primary school]]>Hi


Can anybody help to advise is Model method being adopted as a standard syllabus for primary school?

This is b'cos my girl who is in P2, was not taught with Model method, but when i check with my niece also at the same level but in another school, it was taught.

so is this based on individual's school syllabus or is it stipulated by MOE?

Pls. help..

very confused... :?

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Lynn1967:
So if yr school doesnt teaches model, make sure yr tutor can do that.

yes, and make sure that algebra is not used as an easy substitute to solve primary level problems as students are not taught high-order algebra until they reach secondary level. Most parents know algebra but primary students are confused when their parents use algebra to solve their children's questions. Algebra is an accepted method as long as it is correctly used, but more often, it is wrongly applied by primary level students as they are taught basic algebra and only in P6.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/182497https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/182497Tue, 11 May 2010 07:58:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Models for maths in primary school on Tue, 11 May 2010 06:48:15 GMT]]>Hi, m son is in K2 now and i would like to prepare him for simple concepts of model drawing for P1. There are a few books recommended in this thread, but i was wondering which book should i get, since he’s only K2 ?


I’m considering between Maths Model Diagrams from Maths456 and The singapore model method for learning mathesmatics. Which one is more suitable ?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/182421https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/182421Tue, 11 May 2010 06:48:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Models for maths in primary school on Wed, 14 Oct 2009 03:41:04 GMT]]>My son now P2 alrdy train him to draw models even though the question is easy. My tutor said let him get into the hang of it early so that he won feel the pressure when u introduce more complicated ones to him in upper pri.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/64682https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/64682Wed, 14 Oct 2009 03:41:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Models for maths in primary school on Wed, 14 Oct 2009 03:38:29 GMT]]>So if yr school doesnt teaches model, make sure yr tutor can do that.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/64678https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/64678Wed, 14 Oct 2009 03:38:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Models for maths in primary school on Wed, 14 Oct 2009 03:37:20 GMT]]>My dd is using models drawings for most of the questions and I notice that after she had drawn models, she doesnt had a lot of workings which saves a lot of time. Last time when she was in P3, she had a tutor who wasnt familiar with model drawing and teach her conventional ways. Still can get the answer lah, but she found it hard to understand. She told me now after she had drawn the model she can find a soln quite easily liao.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/64676https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/64676Wed, 14 Oct 2009 03:37:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Models for maths in primary school on Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:22:11 GMT]]>P5 and P6 will still get the comparision, before&after kind of problem sums which are easier to solve using models. There’ll get ratios and fractions in the problem sums.


Hence, it is a good idea to encourage them to use model from lower primary, starting with the simpler problems.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/55150https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/55150Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:22:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Models for maths in primary school on Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:27:24 GMT]]>My dd school do not give marks for the model but without modelling (visualisation), they may not be able to solve some of the math questions. For example (P3 question), A has $65 dollars more than B, if A give $20 dollars to B, how much does A has more than B. Some question even comes with A, B and C. With modelling, it is easier for the student to visualise and calculate the answer. Do the student in P5 and P6 still required to use models to solve problem sums ?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/54161https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/54161Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:27:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Models for maths in primary school on Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:07:37 GMT]]>i think it needs practise, the model method is a very good way to do problem sums, shouldn’t be affecting their speed! it helps the child to picture everything better!

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/54158https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/54158Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:07:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Models for maths in primary school on Sat, 23 May 2009 14:21:49 GMT]]>

kiasumama:
The school doesnt award/minus marks for models right or wrong...i wonder why?


The importance of the models are significant, arent they?
The model is significant in visualizing the questions, some schools will allocate marks for models as to them it is part of the working.

An answer to a normal model question should consist of;

1. Models
2. Statements
3. Equation
4. Final Answers

Every school has a different standard as to what to expect in a paper, some schools give full marks as long as the final answer is correct, some will not, it all depends on which school you are in.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/30246https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/30246Sat, 23 May 2009 14:21:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Models for maths in primary school on Sat, 23 May 2009 09:37:35 GMT]]>The school doesnt award/minus marks for models right or wrong…i wonder why?


The importance of the models are significant, arent they?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/30235https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/30235Sat, 23 May 2009 09:37:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Models for maths in primary school on Sat, 23 May 2009 05:41:32 GMT]]>Try this online http://www.mathplayground.com


It has a section on model, comes with a demo on how to use models in prob sums. Very easy to understand.

Must be patient when introducing model. No.1 had no prob understanding it when he was taught by the sch. No.2 had delayed understanding. I was so anxious then and kept telling No.2 die die he must master it. So I left him to do 2 levels of the qns in this website. Now he has no prob.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/30226https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/30226Sat, 23 May 2009 05:41:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Models for maths in primary school on Fri, 22 May 2009 18:35:49 GMT]]>I am a part time tutor/tuition agent and an undergrad with 9 students on hand. I am replying your question as a tutor. 🙂


Anyhow, your child should spend 1 minute to draw a model and another 4 minutes to finish the question (max)

Try to brief your child on the basic model concepts

Eg. A have $2 and B have $3. How much do they have altogether?
Eg. A have $10. B has $5 fewer. How much do they have altogether?

Step by step. increase the level of difficulties. will definitely help. If he keeps doing them, when he sees the question, he will know what to draw almost instantly. It will be like when you see a lightning, you know the thunder will come. 🙂

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/30199https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/30199Fri, 22 May 2009 18:35:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Models for maths in primary school on Thu, 21 May 2009 01:26:13 GMT]]>I agreed with Mrs Wong that MD will be handy to solve maths problem sums. I would advocate to start them like P2 … most school in P2 has a solid topics on model drawing, however as P2 problem sums or even upto P3 they are pretty straight forward, some children may choose not draw model as working to solve the problems … I think as parent or even educator we need to stress the importance, as practise make perfect & soon MD will become as easy as our vertical adding/multiplication … have fun

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/29778https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/29778Thu, 21 May 2009 01:26:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Models for maths in primary school on Wed, 13 May 2009 04:18:55 GMT]]>Mummies


If you always insist from young on the child drawing model for every word type question, the child gonna have no problem dealing with it at p2 or p3.

Model drawings come in very handy and of importantance when u touch P3 becos as the questions get more difficult, you will notice that without models you probably have problems visualising them. Yes, it helps with visualization. Once u’re able to apply models to those complex questions ur child will be able to do the sum step by step.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/28404https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/28404Wed, 13 May 2009 04:18:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Models for maths in primary school on Wed, 13 May 2009 02:09:26 GMT]]>Hi


Some useful books if you wish to learn more about Model Drawing.

The Essential Parents’ Guide to Primary Maths by Dr Fong Ho Keong
Top marks by Dr Fong Ho Keong.
Maths Model Diagrams from Maths456 by Tan BM

This is probably the latest book in the market which emphasises on MD.
The Singapore Model Method for Learning Mathematics by EPB Panpac Education

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/28381https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/28381Wed, 13 May 2009 02:09:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Models for maths in primary school on Tue, 12 May 2009 16:46:19 GMT]]>Thanks, mama_mia! 😉

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/28341https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/28341Tue, 12 May 2009 16:46:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Models for maths in primary school on Tue, 12 May 2009 15:20:12 GMT]]>

san76:
buds:

Heyya curious_mom,


Just to share an assessment book. Special recommendation from
me and bitchymum (highlighted in P1/P2 Math thread) titled >
Problems Solving Process by Fabian Ng (starts from P2)

The book has examples on problems solving using models method.
It's quite a good assessment book for parents to teach their kids
cos the examples are easy to understand.

Hi Buds,

The book you recommend is indeed a very useful. My kid like it. My son is now doing it though he is only P1. Very good book.


You may also like to check out this book: Top Marks Handbook by Dr. Fong Ho Kheong. A very easy book on model. Useful explanation and example to illustrate the concept.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/28330https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/28330Tue, 12 May 2009 15:20:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Models for maths in primary school on Tue, 12 May 2009 15:13:31 GMT]]>

buds:
You're welcome mama_mia,


So, will you be introducing the model
method to your girl soon?
trying to teach, but i have to learn it myself......but my girl's teacher is not introducing yet.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/28329https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/28329Tue, 12 May 2009 15:13:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Models for maths in primary school on Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:06:22 GMT]]>Hi Parents,


I’m a current school teacher and have been giving private tuition for the past 8 years. Just my small little input here regarding Model Method.

Many children are unable to use the model method effectively as they are not taught how to use it effectively and they are not trained to use it since young.

Even if the school did not teach, it’s extremely helpful to introduce from Primary 1 onwards. Model drawing is about VISUALISATION which not all children are strong in. Those who are not very strong in visualisation will might have problems drawing models correctly to help them answer the questions. These students will need another type of model drawing technique which involves more colours (meaning you may need to spend some money buying coloured pens for them).

Usually drawing a model should be together with ‘analysis of question’. They draw the model to show that they understand the question. It should not take too much time.

With adequate training, students should be able to draw quickly and not spend more than 1 minute drawing a simple model. Parents can help by buying templates (Popular has them) so that they need to struggle with drawing the ‘boxes’.

My tutees have all mastered how to draw models within a few months with me. It is possible to start as late as Primary 6, it’s just a matter of motivation and guidance.

Hope the above is helpful.

Mrs Wong

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/26583https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/26583Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:06:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Models for maths in primary school on Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:01:39 GMT]]>Hi All,


Thanks for the info ... I will drop by Popular to take a look at the book. Hopefully with this I am better able to guide my child.

btw; does any of you have the problem whereby your kid spent some much time drawing the model and end up not having enough time to finish the paper?

To my horror no mark is awarded for the model and because she didn't have time for the equation and statement answer she end up not gaining points for the problem sum !!! 😢

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/26371https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/26371Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:01:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Models for maths in primary school on Tue, 21 Apr 2009 05:32:47 GMT]]>Like to share abt this website.


http://www.thesingaporemaths.com/Index.html

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/25148https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/25148Tue, 21 Apr 2009 05:32:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Models for maths in primary school on Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:15:22 GMT]]>

san76:

How did you come across this book. For me, I went to popular, it catches my eye, I flipped through, oh, very good.
Hi
At Popular Bookstore.

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tianzhu:
Hi, you may be referring to this book.

http://www.panpaceducation.com/panpacdoc/console/DocumentDetail.aspx?viewType=catalogue&id=44938
Dearest Curious_mom,

Yes yes, This is the book.

Thank you Tianzhu for your help. How did you come across this book. For me, I went to popular, it catches my eye, I flipped through, oh, very good.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/24826https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/24826Sun, 19 Apr 2009 08:18:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Models for maths in primary school on Sun, 19 Apr 2009 07:49:05 GMT]]>

san76:
curious_mom:

Hi san76,


I am interested in the book you mentioned; can I confirm the title of the book ... \"model method for Maths\"???

Most of the time I am not able to guide my P2 in her model; so I cannot tell if she is doing it right.

Dearest Curious_mom,

I think the title of this book is \"Model Method for Maths\" Remember it is about 20+cm by 18+cm in size. The colour of the book is light beige. In front you can see the logo of MOE. You can use from P1-Sec4.

Hope it will helps you in your teaching.
😄

Hi, you may be referring to this book.
http://www.panpaceducation.com/panpacdoc/console/DocumentDetail.aspx?viewType=catalogue&id=44938

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