<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[PUB&#x27;s answer to floods : install CCTV]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>SINGAPORE: National water agency PUB is planning to install 55 CCTVs at flood-prone areas in Singapore - mostly in the central, east and west parts of Singapore. <br /><br /><br />This is expected to be completed by early December this year. <br /><br />PUB said the installation of more CCTVs follows the success of its trial project at Bukit Timah, where six were installed, helping the agency to respond more quickly during intense storms or flash floods.<br /><br />Tan Nguan Sen, Director (Catchment &amp; Waterways) at PUB, elaborated: \"We have to look at the critical locations like major canals and where are the areas of old low-lying areas. So we choose them based on these two main criteria. These are the critical areas...for example, also where there are roads to be affected, then we will implement them in these areas.\" .......<br /><br /><a href="http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1163267/1/.html">http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1163267/1/.html</a></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/27659/pub-s-answer-to-floods-install-cctv</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2026 11:37:12 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/27659.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 13:13:29 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to PUB&#x27;s answer to floods : install CCTV on Fri, 04 Nov 2011 15:41:59 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>tankee:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">SINGAPORE: National water agency PUB is planning to install 55 CCTVs at flood-prone areas in Singapore - mostly in the central, east and west parts of Singapore. <br /><br /><br />This is expected to be completed by early December this year. <br /><br />PUB said the installation of more CCTVs follows the success of its trial project at Bukit Timah, where six were installed, helping the agency to respond more quickly during intense storms or flash floods.<br /><br />Tan Nguan Sen, Director (Catchment &amp; Waterways) at PUB, elaborated: \"We have to look at the critical locations like major canals and where are the areas of old low-lying areas. So we choose them based on these two main criteria. These are the critical areas...for example, also where there are roads to be affected, then we will implement them in these areas.\" .......<br /><br /><a href="http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1163267/1/.html">http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1163267/1/.html</a></blockquote></blockquote><br />hmmm ... interesting. It seems that CNA has amended their report.  :rotflmao:<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627852</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627852</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[tankee]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 15:41:59 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to PUB&#x27;s answer to floods : install CCTV on Fri, 04 Nov 2011 14:56:49 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Oppsgal:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><a href="http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1019504/1/.html">http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1019504/1/.html</a><br /><br /><br /> :rotflmao: <br />50 years again :?</blockquote></blockquote> <br />wow how time flies  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627815</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627815</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[pinky]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 14:56:49 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to PUB&#x27;s answer to floods : install CCTV on Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:46:25 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1019504/1/.html">http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1019504/1/.html</a><br /><br /><br /> :rotflmao: <br />50 years again :?</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627626</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627626</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Oppsgal]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:46:25 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to PUB&#x27;s answer to floods : install CCTV on Fri, 04 Nov 2011 07:28:17 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Actually tunnels, digging etc are good solutions that require alot planning, time and money to implement. I believe the cctv is just one of the faster methods to try to control the situation. At least the major areas are monitored, and response can be targeted. To solve the root of the problem, major research and planning has to be done to justify the expense to the public. I do hope they do not rush to invest in some expensive system like Japan spending millions to build those breakwater... and it didn't work at all. without data from previous experience, it will be difficult to forecast and predict how bad a situation should be expected, and wat needs to be done to solve it.<br /><br /><br />no offense ya, I also think that though the headline is 'PUB's answer', it is just a manner of speech. I don think PUB claimed to have the 'answer' for the flood problems right? <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=";)" alt="😉" /> the PUB, though part of the govt, is not the whole representative of the govt too.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627458</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627458</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mrsbongz]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 07:28:17 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to PUB&#x27;s answer to floods : install CCTV on Fri, 04 Nov 2011 06:38:51 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>verykiasu2010:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>php:</b><p>[quote=\"verykiasu2010\"]can cctv prevent floods ?<br /><br /><br />Vivian too free lah</p></blockquote></blockquote>from cctv, when they see that Orchard Road is about to flood, they will provide first-hand information to the managing agents, then all the building tenants will be notified immediately to equip with sandbag barrier....so floods can be prevented from getting into the building....<p></p></blockquote>I respect your view but I disagree that the cctv will be able to prevent flood. <br /><br />For watching, the managing agents will be doing that, they are paid to do so, just like the owners at the Bukit Timah condo did so, to prevent water getting into the buildings. <br /><br />How about the roads and houses and cars that got flooded ?<br /><br />So what if Vivian watches it from the comfort of his home that the flood water is rising ? A flood is a still a flood and causes people to lose money and property.  He most probably task his underling to do the watching and report to him only when the water breaches a certain level.  This are all so passive<br /><br />Get to the root of the problem and go dig the drain deeper and clear the blockages instead of go digging the Bukit Brown graves unnecessarily (not his area of responsibility though, just in general the government's responsibility to solve all these flooding problems)[/quote]aiyo...how come u can't figure out my meaning lei.....hahaha.....<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627371</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627371</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[php]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 06:38:51 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to PUB&#x27;s answer to floods : install CCTV on Fri, 04 Nov 2011 06:35:16 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Ya la…those ivory tower guys too free…</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627367</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627367</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[smurf]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 06:35:16 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to PUB&#x27;s answer to floods : install CCTV on Fri, 04 Nov 2011 06:00:52 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>tankee:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>verykiasu2010:</b><p><br /><br />I respect your view but I disagree that the cctv will be able to prevent flood. <br /><br />For watching, the managing agents will be doing that, they are paid to do so, just like the owners at the Bukit Timah condo did so, to prevent water getting into the buildings. <br /><br />How about the roads and houses and cars that got flooded ?<br /><br />So what if Vivian watches it from the comfort of his home that the flood water is rising ? A flood is a still a flood and causes people to lose money and property.  He most probably task his underling to do the watching and report to him only when the water breaches a certain level.  This are all so passive<br /><br />Get to the root of the problem and go dig the drain deeper and clear the blockages instead of go digging the Bukit Brown graves unnecessarily (not his area of responsibility though, just in general the government's responsibility to solve all these flooding problems)</p></blockquote></blockquote><br />I seriously doubt Vivian would be watching those CCTV. He too highly paid to do such tasks and it is not his responsibility to watch the CCTV.  :roll:<p></p></blockquote>of course we know he won't be watching the cctv.  if he does he ought to be downgraded to watch and tankee takes over his portfolio ... :rotflmao:  someone will be doing the job and he will receive an sms when the situation gets serious, that's it.<br /><br />the point is, it does not solve the flooding problem<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627315</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627315</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[verykiasu2010]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 06:00:52 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to PUB&#x27;s answer to floods : install CCTV on Fri, 04 Nov 2011 05:56:08 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>verykiasu2010:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><br /><br />I respect your view but I disagree that the cctv will be able to prevent flood. <br /><br />For watching, the managing agents will be doing that, they are paid to do so, just like the owners at the Bukit Timah condo did so, to prevent water getting into the buildings. <br /><br />How about the roads and houses and cars that got flooded ?<br /><br />So what if Vivian watches it from the comfort of his home that the flood water is rising ? A flood is a still a flood and causes people to lose money and property.  He most probably task his underling to do the watching and report to him only when the water breaches a certain level.  This are all so passive<br /><br />Get to the root of the problem and go dig the drain deeper and clear the blockages instead of go digging the Bukit Brown graves unnecessarily (not his area of responsibility though, just in general the government's responsibility to solve all these flooding problems)</blockquote></blockquote><br />I seriously doubt Vivian would be watching those CCTV. He too highly paid to do such tasks and it is not his responsibility to watch the CCTV.  He is handsomely paid to set strategic directions and guide his people in coming out with \"creative\" solution to tackle sticky problems, like these floodings :roll:<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627302</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627302</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[tankee]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 05:56:08 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to PUB&#x27;s answer to floods : install CCTV on Fri, 04 Nov 2011 05:10:57 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>php:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>verykiasu2010:</b><p>can cctv prevent floods ?<br /><br /><br />Vivian too free lah</p></blockquote></blockquote>from cctv, when they see that Orchard Road is about to flood, they will provide first-hand information to the managing agents, then all the building tenants will be notified immediately to equip with sandbag barrier....so floods can be prevented from getting into the building....<p></p></blockquote>I respect your view but I disagree that the cctv will be able to prevent flood. <br /><br />For watching, the managing agents will be doing that, they are paid to do so, just like the owners at the Bukit Timah condo did so, to prevent water getting into the buildings. <br /><br />How about the roads and houses and cars that got flooded ?<br /><br />So what if Vivian watches it from the comfort of his home that the flood water is rising ? A flood is a still a flood and causes people to lose money and property.  He most probably task his underling to do the watching and report to him only when the water breaches a certain level.  This are all so passive<br /><br />Get to the root of the problem and go dig the drain deeper and clear the blockages instead of go digging the Bukit Brown graves unnecessarily (not his area of responsibility though, just in general the government's responsibility to solve all these flooding problems)<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627260</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627260</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[verykiasu2010]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 05:10:57 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to PUB&#x27;s answer to floods : install CCTV on Fri, 04 Nov 2011 05:02:56 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>tankee:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">PUB should learn from KL. <br /><br /><br />KL has a car tunnel that is divided into 3 layers. Normally the top 2 layers are for cars to use. But during heavy downpour, each layer of the tunnel can be progressively used to drain water away from low laying areas to some holding pools some distance away. This is a flood prevention solution. <br /><br />CCTV only monitors, doesn't drain water.</blockquote></blockquote>learn from KL means lost face, understand ? we are th e#1 in the world<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627257</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627257</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[verykiasu2010]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 05:02:56 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to PUB&#x27;s answer to floods : install CCTV on Fri, 04 Nov 2011 04:58:56 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>tankee:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">PUB should learn from KL. <br /><br /><br />KL has a car tunnel that is divided into 3 layers. Normally the top 2 layers are for cars to use. But during heavy downpour, each layer of the tunnel can be progressively used to drain water away from low laying areas to some holding pools some distance away. This is a flood prevention solution. <br /><br />CCTV only monitors, doesn't drain water.</blockquote></blockquote>the money is spend in prevention rather than to \"cure\" the problem....<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627256</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627256</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[php]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 04:58:56 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to PUB&#x27;s answer to floods : install CCTV on Fri, 04 Nov 2011 04:57:08 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>tankee:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>verykiasu2010:</b><p>can cctv prevent floods ?<br /><br /><br />Vivian too free lah</p></blockquote></blockquote><br />i wonder how much they spend on this \"creative\" solution to prevent flooding  :roll:<p></p></blockquote>FY coming soon...must clear budget if not have to return the fund...<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627252</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627252</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[php]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 04:57:08 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to PUB&#x27;s answer to floods : install CCTV on Fri, 04 Nov 2011 02:57:02 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>tankee:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">PUB should learn from KL. <br /><br /><br />KL has a car tunnel that is divided into 3 layers. Normally the top 2 layers are for cars to use. But during heavy downpour, each layer of the tunnel can be progressively used to drain water away from low laying areas to some holding pools some distance away. This is a flood prevention solution. <br /><br />CCTV only monitors, doesn't drain water.</blockquote></blockquote>Yeah boy!  I was watching news last night and couldn't help comparing how different KL and Singapore's contingency plan were, which left me wondering what our contingency plan is... <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f937.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--shrug" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":shrug:" alt="🤷" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627131</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627131</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[concern2]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 02:57:02 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to PUB&#x27;s answer to floods : install CCTV on Fri, 04 Nov 2011 02:53:12 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">PUB should learn from KL. <br /><br /><br />KL has a car tunnel that is divided into 3 layers. Normally the top 2 layers are for cars to use. But during heavy downpour, each layer of the tunnel can be progressively used to drain water away from low laying areas to some holding pools some distance away. This is a flood prevention solution. <br /><br />CCTV only monitors, doesn’t drain water.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627125</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627125</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[tankee]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 02:53:12 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to PUB&#x27;s answer to floods : install CCTV on Fri, 04 Nov 2011 02:49:00 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>verykiasu2010:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">can cctv prevent floods ?<br /><br /><br />Vivian too free lah</blockquote></blockquote><br />i wonder how much they spend on this \"creative\" solution to prevent flooding  :roll:<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627119</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627119</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[tankee]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 02:49:00 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to PUB&#x27;s answer to floods : install CCTV on Fri, 04 Nov 2011 02:45:16 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>verykiasu:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">y dun they send more NEA staff to check the conditions of the tree<br /><br />I witness an old tree fallen off n hit a taxi two days ago at Tiong Bahru area<br />I cannot believe how could a strong n old tree drop off like that guess it <br />must have been cracking inside for awhile already...</blockquote></blockquote>Tree not so much damage impact as compared to the houses and cars in D10.<br />Also think fallen tree is the act of god.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627114</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627114</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[just888]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 02:45:16 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to PUB&#x27;s answer to floods : install CCTV on Fri, 04 Nov 2011 02:40:40 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">y dun they send more NEA staff to check the conditions of the tree<br /><br />I witness an old tree fallen off n hit a taxi two days ago at Tiong Bahru area<br />I cannot believe how could a strong n old tree drop off like that guess it <br />must have been cracking inside for awhile already…</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627104</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/627104</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[verykiasu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 02:40:40 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to PUB&#x27;s answer to floods : install CCTV on Fri, 04 Nov 2011 01:07:55 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>verykiasu2010:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">can cctv prevent floods ?<br /><br /><br />Vivian too free lah</blockquote></blockquote>u got to be smart of think of something like dis!<br />Get SG all wired up n monitor it fr d comforts of spacious air-con office<br />- without d need to walk d ground some more!  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /> <br />Kudos to Vivian.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/626989</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/626989</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Way2GO]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 01:07:55 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to PUB&#x27;s answer to floods : install CCTV on Fri, 04 Nov 2011 00:32:25 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I thought I saw those FTs very hardworking clearing the dried leaves in drains along Bukit Timah road even on raining day when I was taking bus.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/626958</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/626958</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[just888]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 00:32:25 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to PUB&#x27;s answer to floods : install CCTV on Fri, 04 Nov 2011 00:27:58 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">if they’re monitoring at Orchard Road, the Orchard Road tenents themselves can do it and prepare themselves for the inevitable flood. That’s like somebody telling them the time with their own watch. I’m sure they can be trained to tell the time themselves.<br /><br /><br />It would be better if they monitor upstream at the canals, drains to provide an early warning system.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/626956</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/626956</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[cimman]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 00:27:58 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to PUB&#x27;s answer to floods : install CCTV on Thu, 03 Nov 2011 21:41:11 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>verykiasu2010:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">can cctv prevent floods ?<br /><br /><br />Vivian too free lah</blockquote></blockquote>from cctv, when they see that Orchard Road is about to flood, they will provide first-hand information to the managing agents, then all the building tenants will be notified immediately to equip with sandbag barrier....so floods can be prevented from getting into the building....<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/626901</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/626901</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[php]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 21:41:11 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to PUB&#x27;s answer to floods : install CCTV on Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:13:55 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">can cctv prevent floods ?<br /><br /><br />Vivian too free lah</p>
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