<![CDATA[More IP Schools, more IP students?]]>Victoria and Cedar have been added in as new IP schools, am I right to say that there are more chances for students to be enrolled in IP programe?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/28643/more-ip-schools-more-ip-studentsRSS for NodeTue, 21 Apr 2026 19:17:13 GMTSat, 26 Nov 2011 09:04:00 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to More IP Schools, more IP students? on Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:42:33 GMT]]>You’re welcome, beemer. SCGS’ Talent Programme is pretty good with lots of interesting modules for the top 2-3 classes. Make sure your girls stay in the top 2 classes in Sec 2 and up to enjoy these programmes.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648735https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648735Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:42:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to More IP Schools, more IP students? on Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:38:41 GMT]]>Once again thanks for affirming my thought. Appreciate that.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648729https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648729Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:38:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to More IP Schools, more IP students? on Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:32:01 GMT]]>I think it’s a hard call. The COP for MGS last year was 253. Given that next year’s Sec 1 batch at MGS will have a chance at getting into the 4 year IP in Year 3, I expect MGS’ COP to go up this year. I would also hesitate to try MGS bec it would mean your giving up your affiliation status for SCGS and the COP last year was 250. Quite a close call for one of your twins. I do expect SCGS’ COP to dip a little this year though bec of the introduction of the Cedar/Victoria IP. Having said that, I still don’t think it’s worth a shot.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648715https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648715Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:32:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to More IP Schools, more IP students? on Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:25:08 GMT]]>Thanks jtoh. Just to ask, what do you think of their chance if they go for mgs based on their grades now?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648706https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648706Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:25:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to More IP Schools, more IP students? on Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:06:10 GMT]]>

beemer:
My twin dd have 253+2 and 250+2. most likely will put them back to scgs as they are both old girls there. If they can prove themselves to make it to IP by sec 3 (2014), what will be the choice of ip schools they have? Thanks

Probably the newer ones like MGS IB, Cedar/Victoria. VJC will no longer offer Year 3 DSA next year. You can try DSA-ing into RGS and NYGH but those are very difficult to get into.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648674https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648674Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:06:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to More IP Schools, more IP students? on Mon, 28 Nov 2011 13:52:51 GMT]]>My twin dd have 253+2 and 250+2. most likely will put them back to scgs as they are both old girls there. If they can prove themselves to make it to IP by sec 3 (2014), what will be the choice of ip schools they have? Thanks

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648654https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648654Mon, 28 Nov 2011 13:52:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to More IP Schools, more IP students? on Mon, 28 Nov 2011 10:48:53 GMT]]>

Zhuge:
the Government Parliamentary Committee (correct name?) for Education did a study and found that this is the way to go for education in s'pore....to free up more students' time so that they can learn better..but i do not think there is a lot of difference for a pupil who scored 230 or 260 at psle level..

Interesting, why do you say there's not alot of diff for a pupil with 230 or 260 at psle?
To me, if both are equally intelligent, I think the 260 boy is more motivated to do well, or have put in much more effort to prepare for the exam. The attitude towards his study is better and maybe he is more mature and knows what he wants at this young age. All these are desirable traits for students in a through train programme. Just my opinion.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648430https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648430Mon, 28 Nov 2011 10:48:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to More IP Schools, more IP students? on Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:42:08 GMT]]>

ksi:
jedamum:

[quote=\"Edureach\"]

Of course many overseas unis will accept lower IB scorers just like those A and poly grads who don't make the cut to our unis.

thanks! i need to know this cos with such track, there is no O-lvl cert to fall back on while those A and poly grad who do not make the cut they still have O-lvl.

Bottomline is if there is parents' scholarships for overseas unis, there will always be a way out whether there is 'O' level cert or not.[/quote]i'm not talking about sending kids overseas to study cos we are not rich. i am talking about localbased-private-distance-learning to overseas unis. the sch fees (SIM and the like) is not very much different from local unis (at least for our times cos both me and hubs are such grads).

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648278https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648278Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:42:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to More IP Schools, more IP students? on Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:33:25 GMT]]>

ksi:
Bottomline is if there is parents' scholarships for overseas unis, there will always be a way out whether there is 'O' level cert or not.

This is so true.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648263https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648263Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:33:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to More IP Schools, more IP students? on Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:30:37 GMT]]>

jedamum:
Edureach:



Of course many overseas unis will accept lower IB scorers just like those A and poly grads who don't make the cut to our unis.

thanks! i need to know this cos with such track, there is no O-lvl cert to fall back on while those A and poly grad who do not make the cut they still have O-lvl.

Bottomline is if there is parents' scholarships for overseas unis, there will always be a way out whether there is 'O' level cert or not.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648259https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648259Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:30:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to More IP Schools, more IP students? on Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:30:18 GMT]]>jedamum


A IB grad is highly favoured if apply for admission to Canadian unis. For their top two namely Mcgraw and Toronto, indicative grde profile is around 34 pts. For the rest, an IB grad is a class above their own high school diplomas.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648258https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648258Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:30:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to More IP Schools, more IP students? on Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:26:09 GMT]]>

Edureach:


Of course many overseas unis will accept lower IB scorers just like those A and poly grads who don't make the cut to our unis.
thanks! i need to know this cos with such track, there is no O-lvl cert to fall back on while those A and poly grad who do not make the cut they still have O-lvl.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648252https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648252Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:26:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to More IP Schools, more IP students? on Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:03:48 GMT]]>

ngbrdad:
Edureach:

On local unis accepting IB...


Indicative score is around 35/36 pts. Unis don't publish the actual intake due to small cohort size vs-a vs A-level and poly.

Haven't heard of anyone scoring below 30 pts making it to local unis though there is a discretionary excercise for students gifted in other areas outside academic.

Of course many overseas unis will accept lower IB scorers just like those A and poly grads who don't make the cut to our unis.

Last year's IB cohort, around 80% got 38 and more.
So the proportion that can make it to local U is better than the A level cohort ?

You can't compare like that. ACSI's IB cohort is creme de la creme. To get accepted into ACSI's IB you have to score >250 at PSLE or do very well in HAST in Year 3. If you don't perform they kick you back into the O level track.

A levels are taken by most students in Singapore - good, bad and average.

So obviously the success rate of all A level students getting into local unis are significantly smaller.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648214https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648214Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:03:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to More IP Schools, more IP students? on Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:00:46 GMT]]>

ngbrdad:
Edureach:

On local unis accepting IB...


Indicative score is around 35/36 pts. Unis don't publish the actual intake due to small cohort size vs-a vs A-level and poly.

Haven't heard of anyone scoring below 30 pts making it to local unis though there is a discretionary excercise for students gifted in other areas outside academic.

Of course many overseas unis will accept lower IB scorers just like those A and poly grads who don't make the cut to our unis.

Last year's IB cohort, around 80% got 38 and more.
So the proportion that can make it to local U is better than the A level cohort ?


U are taking about a top IB centre-ACSI, is expected. Mind u, HCI International top scorer was 39 pts.

Anw, unwise to compare as the cohort size is totally different.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648207https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648207Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:00:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to More IP Schools, more IP students? on Mon, 28 Nov 2011 07:57:11 GMT]]>

Edureach:
On local unis accepting IB...


Indicative score is around 35/36 pts. Unis don't publish the actual intake due to small cohort size vs-a vs A-level and poly.

Haven't heard of anyone scoring below 30 pts making it to local unis though there is a discretionary excercise for students gifted in other areas outside academic.

Of course many overseas unis will accept lower IB scorers just like those A and poly grads who don't make the cut to our unis.
Last year's IB cohort, around 80% got 38 and more.
So the proportion that can make it to local U is better than the A level cohort ?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648199https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648199Mon, 28 Nov 2011 07:57:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to More IP Schools, more IP students? on Mon, 28 Nov 2011 07:50:51 GMT]]>On local unis accepting IB…


Indicative score is around 35/36 pts. Unis don’t publish the actual intake due to small cohort size vs-a vs A-level and poly.

Haven’t heard of anyone scoring below 30 pts making it to local unis though there is a discretionary excercise for students gifted in other areas outside academic.

Of course many overseas unis will accept lower IB scorers just like those A and poly grads who don’t make the cut to our unis.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648188https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648188Mon, 28 Nov 2011 07:50:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to More IP Schools, more IP students? on Mon, 28 Nov 2011 07:18:02 GMT]]>

ngbrdad:
jedamum:

[quote=\"MandyMummy\"]

I heard of a few cases whereby they go to polytechnics (case by case basis) or study overseas. 😄

what constitutes a failure in A-levels (sorry my ignorance)?
what constitutes a failure in IB?
TQ.

For IB, according to ACSI website, NUS, NTU and SMU will accept students with IB score of 24 and above. And from ACSI last year's IB results, only one student got the lowest at 29, one at 30, 2 at 32, 2 at 33 out of over 400 candidates.
So in theory all should make it to NUS/NTU/SMU ?[/quote]I think with 24 and above, you can apply to NUS/NTU/SMU. But whether you ultimately get a place depends on the results of the other students applying as well. So it doesn't mean that all should make it to the local universities.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648127https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648127Mon, 28 Nov 2011 07:18:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to More IP Schools, more IP students? on Mon, 28 Nov 2011 07:13:40 GMT]]>

ngbrdad:
jedamum:

[quote=\"MandyMummy\"]

I heard of a few cases whereby they go to polytechnics (case by case basis) or study overseas. 😄

what constitutes a failure in A-levels (sorry my ignorance)?
what constitutes a failure in IB?
TQ.

For IB, according to ACSI website, NUS, NTU and SMU will accept students with IB score of 24 and above. And from ACSI last year's IB results, only one student got the lowest at 29, one at 30, 2 at 32, 2 at 33 out of over 400 candidates.
So in theory all should make it to NUS/NTU/SMU ?[/quote]good to hear that if the theory is correct. is there any min. IB score for private distance learning degrees? if the lower scores of IB provides a safer route compared to less than ideal scores of A-levels, i will head for IP-IB in favour of IP-A. i am not familiar with A-levels scoring system so am having a hard time comparing. :oops:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648120https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/648120Mon, 28 Nov 2011 07:13:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to More IP Schools, more IP students? on Sun, 27 Nov 2011 16:58:27 GMT]]>

kiaaik:
we should suggest to MOE that every IP school should have O level stream as well, so that those who cannot cope can switch to O level stream...this system will be much better..

That is what most IP schools do nowadays. They usually have a point of exit for these students if they are found unsuitable for IP. One school who does not practise this now have early prevention / detection system in place whereby they have started to retain very very weak students in early years of the IP program, so these students can reconsider whether they are suitable for IP or not. 😄

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/647418https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/647418Sun, 27 Nov 2011 16:58:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to More IP Schools, more IP students? on Sun, 27 Nov 2011 16:43:11 GMT]]>we should suggest to MOE that every IP school should have O level stream as well, so that those who cannot cope can switch to O level stream…this system will be much better…

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/647398https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/647398Sun, 27 Nov 2011 16:43:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to More IP Schools, more IP students? on Sun, 27 Nov 2011 16:32:12 GMT]]>

ksi:
jedamum:

[quote=\"MandyMummy\"]

I heard of a few cases whereby they go to polytechnics (case by case basis) or study overseas. 😄

what constitutes a failure in A-levels (sorry my ignorance)?
what constitutes a failure in IB?
TQ.

Actually there is another category, did not fail but not good enough to go university with the \"A\" level results. Failures can repeat whereas those with not-good-enough results, they have to do as private candidates for the \"A' levels again.

jedamum, I believe fail GP is failed and can repeat JC...otherwise have to be private candidate if it is just to score better grades to qualify for the university.[/quote]The problem with being a private candidate is that they rarely perform better than their last results as school candidates.
So what some students do nowadays if they are pretty sure they will not do well but don't want to fall into the category in which they cannot repeat (ie got 2 H2 passes and pass in GP but not good to go uni) is to withdraw from A level exams and repeat year 6 again.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/647388https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/647388Sun, 27 Nov 2011 16:32:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to More IP Schools, more IP students? on Sun, 27 Nov 2011 16:26:41 GMT]]>

Edureach:
Approximately 30% of A-level cohort fails to make it to local unis each yr. No jc produces 100% success rate. As long as a student passed 2H2 plus gp, he/she is ineligible to repeat as a sch candiate.


In the above circumstances, is worst than failing A-level. That's why IP is only good for those clearly uni bound.
I agree. There are quite a number who did not get A level cert after spending 6 years in IP. Very sad cases. 😢

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/647385https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/647385Sun, 27 Nov 2011 16:26:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to More IP Schools, more IP students? on Sun, 27 Nov 2011 15:50:49 GMT]]>

jedamum:
MandyMummy:



I heard of a few cases whereby they go to polytechnics (case by case basis) or study overseas. 😄

what constitutes a failure in A-levels (sorry my ignorance)?
what constitutes a failure in IB?
TQ.

For IB, according to ACSI website, NUS, NTU and SMU will accept students with IB score of 24 and above. And from ACSI last year's IB results, only one student got the lowest at 29, one at 30, 2 at 32, 2 at 33 out of over 400 candidates.
So in theory all should make it to NUS/NTU/SMU ?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/647346https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/647346Sun, 27 Nov 2011 15:50:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to More IP Schools, more IP students? on Sun, 27 Nov 2011 14:56:12 GMT]]>

jedamum:
MandyMummy:



I heard of a few cases whereby they go to polytechnics (case by case basis) or study overseas. 😄

what constitutes a failure in A-levels (sorry my ignorance)?
what constitutes a failure in IB?
TQ.

Actually there is another category, did not fail but not good enough to go university with the \"A\" level results. Failures can repeat whereas those with not-good-enough results, they have to do as private candidates for the \"A' levels again.

jedamum, I believe fail GP is failed and can repeat JC...otherwise have to be private candidate if it is just to score better grades to qualify for the university.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/647263https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/647263Sun, 27 Nov 2011 14:56:12 GMT