<![CDATA[Higher Chinese Bonus Points (+3, +2, +1)]]>Sorry parents, for the seemingly silly question. From the MOE website, it says that "Pupils in the top 30% of the PSLE cohort who take Higher Chinese at the PSLE will be given bonus points for admission to SAP schools according to the following table:

Higher Chinese Grade\tBonus Point
Distinction\t3
Merit\t2
Pass\t1"

Are RI/RGS/NUS High considered SAP schools and do the bonus points apply to these schools? Thanks much!

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floppy\" post_id=\"1905739\" time=\"1554799593\" user_id=\"97579:

phtthp\" post_id=\"1905669\" time=\"1554782672\" user_id=\"35251:

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If \"225 is indeed Top 30 percent cut off for entire PSLE cohort performance, for Higher Chinese bonus point awarded \", whereby Maris Stella whose affliation is 226, can still go back to affliated Secondary, then how come St Nick girls with 229 +1 for Higher Chinese, total made up to 230 (which is the affliation Cut-off-point) , cannot go back to affliated Secondary ? Furthermore, 229 is 4 points much more higher, than 225 ? illogical, right ? :?
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I think you are getting yourself confused.

COP has nothing to do with top 10/ 20/ 30%. It’s a number set by the school to determine which affiliation student meets the COP and who else doesn’t. If MSHS chooses a lower COP for their affiliated students, it’s their prerogative - same goes for all the other affiliated schools. There isn’t any science to the process.

My understanding is that COP is always inclusive of HCL bonus score. If someone scoring 229 (+1) applies to a SAP school, her score is read as 230. If some SNGS girls are getting that but not accepted in the sec school, perhaps they could clarify with the school directly.

Not all boys at Maris Stella take Higher Chinese at PSLE - they make a choice at the beginning of P5 and again at the beginning of P6. Although they wouldn't want to publicise it, they even have boys taking Foundation Chinese.

It is also no longer compulsory to take HCL in the secondary school.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1906953https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1906953Thu, 18 Apr 2019 07:47:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Higher Chinese Bonus Points (+3, +2, +1) on Wed, 10 Apr 2019 00:47:19 GMT]]>Why? You need to ask the old SNGS alumna. They are kicked out because of IP.


Long time ago, before IP / dual track and DSA were implemented, these few SAP schools' COPs for affiliates were around MSHS' or maybe even lower, but never as low as non-SAP schools like IJ, StMargs, MGS, SCGS, etc. This was because SAP schools were for the: a) nation's top 10%, and they: b) offered no Normal classes. Hence, their COPs for their affiliates had to be adjusted higher to around today's MSHS' cut-off or thereabouts, instead of the Express cut-off 200.

When MOE came up with IP 15 years ago, sch mgmt alongside alumni and other impt stakeholders were consulted and decided to raise their affiiated COPs even higher. They agreed they needed to raise their cohort standard and to introduce diverse talents into their schools to keep up with the rest. Previously, due to the generous cut-off for juniors, the promotion rate to their affiliated sec school was reportedly 70%+, which resulted in a drop of their O level performance in the 1990s. At one point, the likes of DHS and RV even outranked SAP mission/clan schools, including NYGH.

I don't know about the HCL bonus points being added to the COP. In the past, there was no HCL bonus point 123. Never heard of top30% criteria also. But I just remembered that SAP affiliation cut off was historically around MSHS' COP during the pre-IP days.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905790https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905790Wed, 10 Apr 2019 00:47:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Higher Chinese Bonus Points (+3, +2, +1) on Tue, 09 Apr 2019 08:46:33 GMT]]>

phtthp\" post_id=\"1905669\" time=\"1554782672\" user_id=\"35251:

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If \"225 is indeed Top 30 percent cut off for entire PSLE cohort performance, for Higher Chinese bonus point awarded \", whereby Maris Stella whose affliation is 226, can still go back to affliated Secondary, then how come St Nick girls with 229 +1 for Higher Chinese, total made up to 230 (which is the affliation Cut-off-point) , cannot go back to affliated Secondary ? Furthermore, 229 is 4 points much more higher, than 225 ? illogical, right ? :?
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I think you are getting yourself confused.

COP has nothing to do with top 10/ 20/ 30%. It’s a number set by the school to determine which affiliation student meets the COP and who else doesn’t. If MSHS chooses a lower COP for their affiliated students, it’s their prerogative - same goes for all the other affiliated schools. There isn’t any science to the process.

My understanding is that COP is always inclusive of HCL bonus score. If someone scoring 229 (+1) applies to a SAP school, her score is read as 230. If some SNGS girls are getting that but not accepted in the sec school, perhaps they could clarify with the school directly.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905739https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905739Tue, 09 Apr 2019 08:46:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Higher Chinese Bonus Points (+3, +2, +1) on Tue, 09 Apr 2019 07:55:37 GMT]]>

phtthp\" post_id=\"1905669\" time=\"1554782672\" user_id=\"35251:

Maris Stella's affiliation COP for its juniors is 226. Those juniors should be taking HCL in their affiliated secondary school because MSHS is a 100% SAP school. Maybe there are some weaker ones who are allowed to drop HCL after the Sec 3 CL O level exam. Nobody knows.
hi .zeit, doesn't make sense.

If \"225 is indeed Top 30 percent cut off for entire PSLE cohort performance, for Higher Chinese bonus point awarded \", whereby Maris Stella whose affliation is 226, can still go back to affliated Secondary, then how come St Nick girls with 229 +1 for Higher Chinese, total made up to 230 (which is the affliation Cut-off-point) , cannot go back to affliated Secondary ? Furthermore, 229 is 4 points much more higher, than 225 ? illogical, right ? :?

if think logically, by right, who should go back first ? the St Nick pupil who scored much higher (with 229 +1 ) or the
Maris Stella pupil, who scored lower (226) ?

bear in mind that students from (Maris Stella and St Nick) primary are taking PSLE in the same batch, in the same identifical year, not from different batches, different year, as been suggested by MerlionInGermany


In the end, do u know what happen to those St nick girls who scored 229 (+ 1) ?
They had to study in some other O-level schools, because they were unable to come back to St Nick.
So, doesn't this fact (proven reality) already clearly dispute the fact that -

\"225, is the Top 30 percent cut off \" ?


The Proven reality speaks a lot much louder, than some unproven theory, right ?
because the St Nick girls were so hurt, just because of 229 (+1), that they cannot go back to their affliated Secondary[/quote]I am not sure whether are you referring to 1 particular year where St Nick girls with 229+1 could not make it back to the affiliated school or over a few years? If this is the fact as you claimed (not sure if you have seen the PSLE offer letter or heard from the HOD, I thought most if not all HODs are rather tight-lipped). As St Nick's COP is always inclusive of HCL bonus points, could we be sure that the 229 tscore of the girls that could not make it back to the affiliated secondary school are without HCL? I personally knew 2 students from 2 different cohorts who scored marginally below 230 and are allowed bonus points if they choose to apply to SAP schools, although both cases happened during eras where St Nick's affiliation COP was 225. Unless there is a shift in the distribution curve, else I would believe that it is possible that 229 is still within top 30%. Perhaps you like to check with the HOD and let us know the current trend, or perhaps there are some MSHS parents who would care to shed some light as the sample size of students below 230 with HCL is small as many schools only allow better performing students to offer HCL.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905719https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905719Tue, 09 Apr 2019 07:55:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Higher Chinese Bonus Points (+3, +2, +1) on Tue, 09 Apr 2019 05:18:34 GMT]]>

phtthp\" post_id=\"1905676\" time=\"1554783448\" user_id=\"35251:
no lah, not true lah

regardless of which psle year, you take : once hit 250, u are already within Top 10 percent, of entire P6 cohort
It is a fact that in one year, the COP for foreign 3rd language was 248, in another year, it was 252. If you consider the COP for taking 3rd language (foreign language) as a proxy for top 10%, then what MerlionInGermany said is true.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905687https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905687Tue, 09 Apr 2019 05:18:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Higher Chinese Bonus Points (+3, +2, +1) on Tue, 09 Apr 2019 04:17:28 GMT]]>

MerlionInGermany:


250 can be top 10% in one year.
250 can be outside top 10% in another year.
no lah, not true lah

regardless of which psle year, you take : once hit 250, u are already within Top 10 percent, of entire P6 cohort

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905676https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905676Tue, 09 Apr 2019 04:17:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Higher Chinese Bonus Points (+3, +2, +1) on Tue, 09 Apr 2019 04:05:33 GMT]]>

.zeit\" post_id=\"1905663\" time=\"1554781689\" user_id=\"171271:

MrsKiasu, you got it from pirate's guesstimate, based on 2018's top 10% (252)?

See pg 250 of 2018 PSLE Discussions and Strategies megathread.

pirate\" post_id=\"1887140\" time=\"1543423335\" user_id=\"66252:

[quote=\"MrsKiasu\"]huh, top 30% usually around how many points?

If top 10% is around 252, top 15.9% around 240 (one standard deviation) and mean is 200, my guess will be around 225.

phtthp\" post_id=\"1905650\" time=\"1554779165\" user_id=\"35251:
MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"1905647\" time=\"1554778684\" user_id=\"43981:

Maris Stella's affiliation COP for its juniors is 226. Those juniors should be taking HCL in their affiliated secondary school because MSHS is a 100% SAP school. Maybe there are some weaker ones who are allowed to drop HCL after the Sec 3 CL O level exam. Nobody knows.

For SAP schools whose COP are higher than MSHS' - Well, I suppose if they got into top 30% of their year, but do not meet own affiliated secondary school's COP (235, 240, 250), they can still take HCL in other non-SAP express schools. I recall asking for my relative's girl and pirate advised me there're many express govt schools that offer HCL to pupils in that range.

zeit, actually in my heart I guessed it was pirate or floppy and it happened during school holiday, that's why it was easier to check back...but I dont see the sui sui one as copied and paste by me..aiya..see the 30% only..aiya interested parties go and check la ..I see the figures, I see stars already 😂

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905671https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905671Tue, 09 Apr 2019 04:05:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Higher Chinese Bonus Points (+3, +2, +1) on Tue, 09 Apr 2019 04:04:32 GMT]]>

.zeit:


Maris Stella's affiliation COP for its juniors is 226. Those juniors should be taking HCL in their affiliated secondary school because MSHS is a 100% SAP school. Maybe there are some weaker ones who are allowed to drop HCL after the Sec 3 CL O level exam. Nobody knows.
hi .zeit, doesn't make sense.

If \"225 is indeed Top 30 percent cut off for entire PSLE cohort performance, for Higher Chinese bonus point awarded \", whereby Maris Stella whose affliation is 226, can still go back to affliated Secondary, then how come St Nick girls with 229 +1 for Higher Chinese, total made up to 230 (which is the affliation Cut-off-point) , cannot go back to affliated Secondary ? Furthermore, 229 is 4 points much more higher, than 225 ? illogical, right ? :?

if think logically, by right, who should go back first ? the St Nick pupil who scored much higher (with 229 +1 ) or the
Maris Stella pupil, who scored lower (226) ?

bear in mind that students from (Maris Stella and St Nick) primary are taking PSLE in the same batch, in the same identifical year, not from different batches, different year, as been suggested by MerlionInGermany


In the end, do u know what happen to those St nick girls who scored 229 (+ 1) ?
They had to study in some other O-level schools, because they were unable to come back to St Nick.
So, doesn't this fact (proven reality) already clearly dispute the fact that -

\"225, is the Top 30 percent cut off \" ?


The Proven reality speaks a lot much louder, than some unproven theory, right ?
because the St Nick girls were so hurt, just because of 229 (+1), that they cannot go back to their affliated Secondary

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905669https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905669Tue, 09 Apr 2019 04:04:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Higher Chinese Bonus Points (+3, +2, +1) on Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:59:46 GMT]]>I use Maris Stella historical affiliation COP 226 as a gauge. All 226 scorers can take HCL in MSHS Sec 1.


+/- 3-5 points should be ok, as no one knows how strong your cohort is. It fluctuates. Just ask for your year’s EESIS cut-off and total candidates, etc. and work backwards as pirate did for last year’s cohort.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905668https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905668Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:59:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Higher Chinese Bonus Points (+3, +2, +1) on Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:54:57 GMT]]>

phtthp\" post_id=\"1905635\" time=\"1554776410\" user_id=\"35251:

A second, different (separate) question to ask is,

This (Plus 1, plus 2, plus 3) higher Chinese bonus points -

Is it awarded, given only to those p6 students, who fall within the top 30 percent of entire PSLE cohort (thousands of p6 students, taking psle) ?

Meaning that, for students who scored 229 (as an example) and who had studied hard and had taken hcl at psle, they can never be awarded any (Plus 1 nor plus 2 nor plus 3) bonus point, because in the first case, to begin with, 229 t-score actually fall outside of top 30 percent psle cohort. Not fall within.

If your t score is 250 & above :
You fall within Top 10 percent of entire PSLE cohort

But, if your t score is 229 :
You fall outside Top 30 percent, of the entire PSLE cohort
250 can be top 10% in one year.
250 can be outside top 10% in another year.
No hyperlink. Source is word of mouth. Also never verify and take photo of their result slip. Based on trust.
:siam:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905667https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905667Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:54:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Higher Chinese Bonus Points (+3, +2, +1) on Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:51:02 GMT]]>

phtthp\" post_id=\"1905650\" time=\"1554779165\" user_id=\"35251:

MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"1905647\" time=\"1554778684\" user_id=\"43981:


225 ~ top 30%

where did u get your source of info from, that 225 fall within Top 30 % ?

i think your info is wrong, because in reality (proven in practice), there are some SAP Secondary schools where students with 229 T-score cannot come back for O level, in their affliated school.

If indeed you say that 225 fall within Top 30 percent is correct (true), then 229, much higher than 225 by 4 points, surely those students with 229 should be able to go back to their affliated school, right ? But, they cannot !

I think the original post that was cut and pasted (i have no hyperlink), says “roughly”.
I guess it depends on the cohort performance.

Cannot say it is wrong. Maybe that year, your 229 was not in top 30%. But another year, 229 can be in top 30%.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905665https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905665Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:51:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Higher Chinese Bonus Points (+3, +2, +1) on Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:48:58 GMT]]>anyway, imo, Top 30 percent cut-off cannot be 225 : because P6 students with 229, 4 points much higher than 225, cannot even go back to my kid’s SAP Sec school. If u all don’t agree, is fine.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905664https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905664Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:48:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Higher Chinese Bonus Points (+3, +2, +1) on Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:48:09 GMT]]>MrsKiasu, you got it from pirate's guesstimate, based on 2018's top 10% (252)?


See pg 250 of 2018 PSLE Discussions and Strategies megathread.

pirate\" post_id=\"1887140\" time=\"1543423335\" user_id=\"66252:
MrsKiasu:

huh, top 30% usually around how many points?

If top 10% is around 252, top 15.9% around 240 (one standard deviation) and mean is 200, my guess will be around 225.

phtthp\" post_id=\"1905650\" time=\"1554779165\" user_id=\"35251:
MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"1905647\" time=\"1554778684\" user_id=\"43981:


225 ~ top 30%

where did u get your source of info from, that 225 fall within Top 30 % ?

i think your info is wrong, because in reality (proven in practice), there are some SAP Secondary schools where students with 229 T-score cannot come back for O level, in their affliated school.

If indeed you say that 225 fall within Top 30 percent is correct (true), then 229, much higher than 225 by 4 points, surely those students with 229 should be able to go back to their affliated school, right ? But, they cannot !

Maris Stella's affiliation COP for its juniors is 226. Those juniors should be taking HCL in their affiliated secondary school because MSHS is a 100% SAP school. Maybe there are some weaker ones who are allowed to drop HCL after the Sec 3 CL O level exam. Nobody knows.

For SAP schools whose COP are higher than MSHS' - Well, I suppose if they got into top 30% of their year, but do not meet own affiliated secondary school's COP (235, 240, 250), they can still take HCL in other non-SAP express schools. I recall asking for my relative's girl and pirate advised me there're many express govt schools that offer HCL to pupils in that range.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905663https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905663Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:48:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Higher Chinese Bonus Points (+3, +2, +1) on Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:41:59 GMT]]>

phtthp\" post_id=\"1905659\" time=\"1554780174\" user_id=\"35251:

But if u are prepared to share something so openly in forum, surely u should also come prepared with some original source of info, so that people can verify whether the info provided, is it true or not, in case the data may not be accurate, not verified, or other people anyhow \"hum-tum\", and then other people start picking up this piece of info, begin to believe that it is true. your reply , \"oh, is from one of the ksp postings\", sounds so vague, so ambiguous ! Anyway, the best source of info to clarify with, is your kid's own primary school Chinese HOD. They have collected so many past years' batches of Higher Chinese results, have analysed results before, their info should be reliable and accurate
That's why you see that I seldom share \"serious\" stuffs...I dont think I will clarify this with HOD la..since dd wants to do it just do it. To go to any school it is only can or cannot, so long as she tried her best the rest I just hope for the best.

Anyway, I just looked through, you can go to 2018 PSLE Discussions & Strategies (born in 2006) thread around page 253..there is some mention of it.. the info should be in that thread ba.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905661https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905661Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:41:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Higher Chinese Bonus Points (+3, +2, +1) on Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:22:54 GMT]]>But if u are prepared to share something so openly in forum, thought u can point us the hyperlink, so that people can verify whether the info provided over there, is it true or not, in case the data placed there may not be accurate, not verified, or other people anyhow "hum-tum", and then other people start picking up this piece of info, begin to believe that it is true. Anyway, to feedback, your reply , "is from one of the ksp postings", sounds vague, and ambiguous ! Anyway, the best source of info to clarify with, is your kid’s own primary school Chinese HOD. They have collected so many past years’ batches of Higher Chinese results, have analysed results before, their info should be reliable and accurate

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905659https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905659Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:22:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Higher Chinese Bonus Points (+3, +2, +1) on Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:17:15 GMT]]>

phtthp\" post_id=\"1905654\" time=\"1554779618\" user_id=\"35251:
since you mention is \"one of the ksp postings in jan19\", then can u point us the hyperlink ?
aiyo phtthp, dont torture me la..I just want to share what I have on hand..I dislike going to check in details for 'clarification' sake except for work then bo bian..if I have time to search la..no promise.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905658https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905658Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:17:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Higher Chinese Bonus Points (+3, +2, +1) on Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:13:38 GMT]]>

MrsKiasu:

from one of the ksp postings in Jan19 if the date of data saved is to be trusted... for me, I just need a very rough guide..plus minus 10 points is not too much for me.
since you mention is \"one of the ksp postings in jan19\", then can u point us the hyperlink ?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905654https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905654Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:13:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Higher Chinese Bonus Points (+3, +2, +1) on Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:11:40 GMT]]>

phtthp\" post_id=\"1905650\" time=\"1554779165\" user_id=\"35251:

MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"1905647\" time=\"1554778684\" user_id=\"43981:


225 ~ top 30%

where did u get your source of info from, that 225 fall within Top 30 % ?

i do not think your info is correct, because in reality (proven), there are some SAP Sec schools where students with 229 T-score cannot come back for O level, in their affliated school.

If indeed you say that 225 fall within Top 30 percent, then surely 229 being much higher than 225, by 4 points, those students with 229 should be able to go back to their affliated school, right ? But, they cannot !

from one of the ksp postings in Jan19 if the date of data saved is to be trusted... for me, I just need a very rough guide..plus minus 10 points is not too much for me.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905653https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905653Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:11:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Higher Chinese Bonus Points (+3, +2, +1) on Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:06:05 GMT]]>

MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"1905647\" time=\"1554778684\" user_id=\"43981:


225 ~ top 30%
where did u get your source of info from, that 225 fall within Top 30 % ?

i think your info is wrong, because in reality (proven in practice), there are some SAP Secondary schools where students with 229 T-score cannot come back for O level, in their affliated school.

If indeed you say that 225 fall within Top 30 percent is correct (true), then 229, much higher than 225 by 4 points, surely those students with 229 should be able to go back to their affliated school, right ? But, they cannot !

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905650https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905650Tue, 09 Apr 2019 03:06:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Higher Chinese Bonus Points (+3, +2, +1) on Tue, 09 Apr 2019 02:58:04 GMT]]>This info… I copied paste from one of the postings…sorry I do not have more details than this…just a rough guide, pls bear in mind…



"If you go read through all the pages, the percentiles are very roughly 
225 ~ top 30%
250 ~ top10% 
260 ~ top 3%
270 ~ top1%
200 = average PSLE T-score (not median)

But note this is for the whole PSLE cohort - not just among the DSA students"

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905647https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905647Tue, 09 Apr 2019 02:58:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Higher Chinese Bonus Points (+3, +2, +1) on Tue, 09 Apr 2019 02:46:46 GMT]]>You may ask or approach your Chinese hod in your own child’s primary school, they can tell u roughly, where is the cut off for top 30 percent, of entire PSLE cohort. From there, u will know whether, 229 is within or outside top 30 percent. Chinese hod, in your school, may advise

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905644https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905644Tue, 09 Apr 2019 02:46:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Higher Chinese Bonus Points (+3, +2, +1) on Tue, 09 Apr 2019 02:41:06 GMT]]>

phtthp\" post_id=\"1905635\" time=\"1554776410\" user_id=\"35251:

A second, different (separate) question to ask is,

This (Plus 1, plus 2, plus 3) higher Chinese bonus points -

Is it awarded, given only to those p6 students, who fall within the top 30 percent of entire PSLE cohort (thousands of p6 students, taking psle) ?

Meaning that, for students who scored 229 (as an example) and who had studied hard and had taken hcl at psle, they can never be awarded any (Plus 1 nor plus 2 nor plus 3) bonus point, because in the first case, to begin with, 229 t-score actually fall outside of top 30 percent psle cohort. Not fall within.

If your t score is 250 & above :
You fall within Top 10 percent of entire PSLE cohort

But, if your t score is 229 :
You fall outside Top 30 percent, of the entire PSLE cohort
How sure are we that 229 (without HMTL) is outside the top 30%?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905640https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905640Tue, 09 Apr 2019 02:41:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Higher Chinese Bonus Points (+3, +2, +1) on Tue, 09 Apr 2019 02:20:10 GMT]]>A second, different (separate) question to ask is,


This (Plus 1, plus 2, plus 3) higher Chinese bonus points -

Is it awarded, given only to those p6 students, who fall within the top 30 percent of entire PSLE cohort (thousands of p6 students, taking psle) ?

Meaning that, for students who scored 229 (as an example) and who had studied hard and had taken hcl at psle, they can never be awarded any (Plus 1 nor plus 2 nor plus 3) bonus point, because in the first case, to begin with, 229 t-score actually fall outside of top 30 percent psle cohort. Not fall within.

If your t score is 250 & above :
You fall within Top 10 percent of entire PSLE cohort

But, if your t score is 229 :
You fall outside Top 30 percent, of the entire PSLE cohort

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905635https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905635Tue, 09 Apr 2019 02:20:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Higher Chinese Bonus Points (+3, +2, +1) on Tue, 09 Apr 2019 01:57:20 GMT]]>I have a query, over this higher Chinese.


Suppose there are 2 students : x and y. Both entered a SAP secondary school , through different means (ways).

X : is a dsa student, scored 229 t score, entered nanyang girls high (ip), through DSA (cca), because she accepted the wait list offer, before sat for psle, and eventually her wait list get converted into a co (confirmed offer).

The DSA rule state that, as long as a p6 student scored the minimum express course stream, can qualify for IP programme. The minimum express course, is either 188 or 200. So as a result, this 229 student x, managed to enter NYGH (ip), because her 229 exceeded minimum 200. (Express stream)

(
188 : can be the minimum for express stream (o level), in some sec schools. Eg Mansjuri secondary, who is affliated to mee toh primary, and to maha bodhi primary. )

Anyway,

Y : this student, entered nygh, with t score 262, whose official cut off point we 258. Not through DSA.

Now, both will be sec 1 students, soon.
In NYGH : because is an ip programme,
Plus sap school, therefore, higher Chinese is compulsory, from sec 1.

The question is,
Will this sec 1 student (x), a dsa student, with her 229 t score, still take higher chinese, inside nygh ? Because had she not entered by dsa, she

A) she could never have entered into nygh via t score, because 229 is very far away from the official cut off point 258, and

B) 229, actually fall outside the boundary of top 30 percent of entire PSLE cohort, meaning that she could never have been allowed to take Higher Chinese.

However, because nygh (ip) from sec 1 made hcl compulsory, so inspite of 229, still can take HCL ?

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