<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><b><b>Is it advisable to use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths?</b></b><br /><br /><br />Many parents are not updated on the use of Model Drawing and other Problem Solving Heuristics in solving Maths questions in Primary schools. I believe parents are better versed in algebraic methods. <br /><br />Some parents may feel that it is easier to solve Sect C questions using algebraic methods and may be even tempted to teach their kids Algebra.<br /><br /> MOE has clarified that students are not restricted to the use of any one particular method. So questions linger on <i><i>Is Algebra taught in P6 deep or thorough enough to be used for Sect C type of questions? Is it advisable to use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths? </i></i><br />Please share your view.<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.moe.gov.sg/media/forum/2007/forum_letters/20070217.pdf">http://www.moe.gov.sg/media/forum/2007/forum_letters/20070217.pdf</a><br />ST Forum, 12/2)<br /><br />Some parents of primary school pupils seem to be confused about their<br />children's mathematics as taught by some teachers.<br />From comments I gathered when tutoring Primary 6 pupils, it appears that modeldrawing<br />methods have to be used in order to score more marks in the Primary<br />School Leaving Examination (PSLE).<br />The use of algebra methods may lead to loss of marks as it is not encouraged<br />nor recommended.<br />However, algebra is part of the Primary 6 Maths syllabus.<br />Some parents are not even aware that algebra questions have been set in past<br />PSLE Maths papers.<br />Can the Ministry of Education clarify the following doubts:<br />Can students use different maths techniques like algebra if they prefer it to<br />model-drawing?<br />An example of a question in which both methods can be used:<br />At a funfair, two-fifths of the visitors were women. There were three times as<br />many men as children. If there were 90 more women than children, how many<br />visitors were there at the funfair?<br />Will there be loss of marks if algebra is used instead of model-drawing methods?<br />Are model-drawing methods so important that they continue to be highly used in<br />secondary schools?<br />Should we not teach students to be more creative by using different approaches<br />in maths if these can help them understand the subject better and more easily?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.moe.gov.sg/media/forum/2007/20070217.htm">http://www.moe.gov.sg/media/forum/2007/20070217.htm</a><br />Different Approaches Taught for Mathematics Techniques<br />1.\tMr Lim Boon Tong had sought clarification on whether mathematics techniques like algebra, other than the model drawing method, could be used in the Primary School Leaving Examination (PSLE) Mathematics. (“Can algebra be used to solve PSLE maths problems”, The Straits Times, 12/2). <br />2.\tThe model drawing method is a powerful approach for problem solving and learning mathematical concepts. By drawing models, pupils can represent the mathematical relationships in a problem pictorially. This helps them understand the problem and plan the steps for the solution. <br />3.\tThe pictorial form also helps pupils visualise what could otherwise be abstract concepts. In this way, model drawing supports the learning of fractions, ratio and percentages. Pupils will find model drawing useful when they solve problems involving these concepts in Primary Five and Six. <br />4.\tThe model drawing method is thus a developmentally sound approach for young children. It is recognised internationally as an effective way for young children to learn problem solving and to have early exposure to algebraic concepts. At Primary Six and Secondary One, pupils can draw upon their earlier experience of using models to help them understand algebraic relationships in problems. <br />5.\tOther than the model drawing approach, pupils are also taught different problem solving methods. They are encouraged to try different approaches and have the flexibility to choose the method that works best for them in solving the problems. They are also encouraged to present their solutions clearly so that these can be understood. <br />6.\tWhile pupils are not required to use algebra to solve word problems in the PSLE Mathematics, they are also not restricted to the use of any one particular method. In the marking of PSLE Mathematics, all mathematically correct solutions are acceptable and there is no loss of marks if a correct algebraic method is used. <br />7.\tWe thank Mr Lim for his feedback. <br />Ho Peng (Ms)<br />Director, Curriculum Planning and Development<br />Ministry of Education<br />Tan Yap Kwang<br />Chief Executive<br />Singapore Examinations and Assessment Board</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/300/use-algebra-to-solve-problems-for-psle-maths</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2026 22:30:11 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/300.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:13:30 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths on Fri, 23 Feb 2018 07:46:52 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">can anyone share if the math olympaids are really using more algebra? i wonder if kids will have tendency to mix these up…</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1835068</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1835068</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[deardear07]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2018 07:46:52 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths on Mon, 25 Sep 2017 03:40:46 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">IMO, the biggest advantage in using algebra is… Speed.<br /><br /><br />Basically, to use model, a student has to fully understand the inside out of the question, then plan the model to use, then execute the problem solving.<br /><br />With algebra, it is sometimes possible to just start answering the question with only partial understanding of the full picture. As long as the relationship is constructed accurately, a student can start forming equations and solve the problem in a very short time giving the correct answer w/o "fully" visualizing the problem in detail.<br /><br />Algebra is systematic. it is usually guaranteed to give the correct answers, although something the equations might be a complicated nightmare. Model solving is, sometimes you can see it, sometimes you can’t. If you can’t see it straight away, it might cost precious minutes before you can see it. Algebra removes all the guesswork. That is why at higher levels, only algebra is used. because it is a systematic approach.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1803066</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1803066</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[limlim]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2017 03:40:46 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths on Sun, 21 Feb 2016 23:27:08 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>StillThinking:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">Does no one else realise that model drawing and algebra is almost the same thing, just one you have to visualised(I'm talking about algebra, but it's not necessary unless slight confusing.) The other you will just draw so no need keep thinking back? <span style="\&quot;color:">If you view model drawing as a stepping stone to algebra, even learning algebra may be easier.</span> Anyways, you don't have to use Model Drawing. I passed my math(PSLE) with flying colours using algebra <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":smile:" alt="😄" /> .</blockquote></blockquote><br />It's been said many times, by many posters. But there are always new people who haven't realised that.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1645483</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1645483</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[sharonkhoo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2016 23:27:08 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths on Sun, 21 Feb 2016 14:00:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Does no one else realise that model drawing and algebra is almost the same thing, just one you have to visualised(I'm talking about algebra, but it's not necessary unless slight confusing.) The other you will just draw so no need keep thinking back? If you view model drawing as a stepping stone to algebra, even learning algebra may be easier. Anyways, you don't have to use Model Drawing. I passed my math(PSLE) with flying colours using algebra <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":smile:" alt="😄" /> .</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1645416</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1645416</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[StillThinking]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2016 14:00:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths on Sun, 21 Feb 2016 13:51:35 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>lizawa:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">[quote]Is it advisable to use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths? </blockquote></blockquote><br />Forgot to answer this question <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f642.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--slightly_smiling_face" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":)" alt="🙂" /><br /><br />Yes, if your child is able to use algebra and thinks it's easier, he should use it.<br /><br />After 1st term in school, my son (P6) can decide for himself what questions he can solve easier with models, ratios or algebra. The main thing is, they must be clear how to use all these different methods.[/quote]Actually, I have used algebra since P3/P4(our teacher taught us it, explaining it as the 'unit' method, so we won't be confused.) I changed most of my methods to algebra in P5 and I fully used algebra for almost every single question for PSLE. Thus, it is not necessary to wait till P6. Additionally, ratios usually don't work alone, usually with algebra in fact.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1645412</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1645412</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[StillThinking]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2016 13:51:35 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths on Sun, 21 Feb 2016 13:40:12 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>SengkangMum:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">Agree! Infact , even my gal home tutor also using algebra method to teach . I think is much easier for them to digest than models.</blockquote></blockquote><br />hi yes, even though algebra is a great tool to solve math problems, sometimes young kids are not trained to understand complicated algebra logic. So models may help them to visualise better.<br /><br />Nonetheless, if your girl has no problem with algebra, it's a great start as secondary school onwards is mostly using algebra.<br /><br />I always encouraged my students to use both methods to have a more holistic learning.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1645409</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1645409</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[intellicat_tuition]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2016 13:40:12 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths on Thu, 18 Feb 2016 03:48:25 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I have gone through 2 methods to solve Simultaneous Equations in this post: <a href="https://tutornauts.com.sg/how-to-solve-">https://tutornauts.com.sg/how-to-solve-</a> ... d-algebra/<br /><br /><br />1. Model Drawing<br />2. Algebra<br /><br />Hope they can help you.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1644027</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1644027</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[intellicat_tuition]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2016 03:48:25 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths on Mon, 18 May 2015 09:39:56 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>lizawa:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">The <span style="\&quot;color:">first chapter in the P6 Maths textbook is \"Algebra\". </span> They are taught basic algebraic equations. <br /><br /><br />To solve Sect C problems, you need to form multiple equations and solve simultaneously. So, I personally feel that because they started teaching Algebra so late, it is sometimes easier for the kids to use models, process skills, fractions, ratio etc to solve the problem.  If they cannot form the 2 or 3 simultaneous equations to solve, then, they will be stuck. <br /><br />Just take one of the questions that Tianzhu has posted previously, on the person spending 0.5 of remaining on item x, y, z and left with $1.50 in the end. This kind of the question will be easiest solve with the process skills taught rather than algebra.<br /><br />Algebra, in a way, is very mechanical. Using process skills or models, help the child to visualize and think a little deeper into the question. I think it's good training for the child.<br /><br />Just my opinions.</blockquote></blockquote>which P6 Maths Textbook (title) is this : <u><u>first chapter</u></u> teach Algebra ?<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1508456</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1508456</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[phtthp]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2015 09:39:56 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths on Mon, 18 May 2015 06:54:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>FantasyLandDreams:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>zbear:</b><p>The beauty of MOE syabullus is learn Models for Primary School Maths n then when you enter Sec School, throw it back to your Primary School teachers n start learning Algebra becos you don't need to use Models anymore.  <br /><br /><br />To me, MOE only think of short term n not long term.  I really do not understand what is their rationale to make kids learn Models only for Primary School n then unlearn n relearn Alegbra.<br /><br />Oh well, MOE hires scholars to design the syabullus for PSLE, rite?<br /><br /><br /> <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /></p></blockquote></blockquote> :hi5:<p></p></blockquote>Team Leader Dr Kho Tek Hong<br />Genius? 白痴?<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1508351</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1508351</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[John Lim]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2015 06:54:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths on Mon, 18 May 2015 06:43:03 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Agree! Infact , even my gal home tutor also using algebra method to teach . I think is much easier for them to digest than models.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1508347</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1508347</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[SengkangMum]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2015 06:43:03 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths on Mon, 18 May 2015 06:33:20 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>SengkangMum:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">Agreeable to Twinkless and Zbear review. Pardon me of saying, I find it really senseless to use model drawing for PSLE. Like the other parent mentioned in the previous forum, let the kids decide which methodology is more comfortable for them. Like what Zbear has mentioned, you have to throw back the model drawing to Primary teachers and start learning new method in Secondary level. Why making it so confusing for the kids ? They already felt so stressed up on daily work and exams. I don't understand why add on extra burden for them. Give them a choice to choose.</blockquote></blockquote><br />agree, what is the point of learning Model in primary school up to P6, then don't use nor apply model in Secondary school anymore, switch to Algebra in Sec school ?<br /><br />might as well let the primary school children learn Algebra, from young<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1508344</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1508344</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[phtthp]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2015 06:33:20 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths on Mon, 18 May 2015 06:17:45 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Agreeable to Twinkless and Zbear review. Pardon me of saying, I find it really senseless to use model drawing for PSLE. Like the other parent mentioned in the previous forum, let the kids decide which methodology is more comfortable for them. Like what Zbear has mentioned, you have to throw back the model drawing to Primary teachers and start learning new method in Secondary level. Why making it so confusing for the kids ? They already felt so stressed up on daily work and exams. I don’t understand why add on extra burden for them. Give them a choice to choose.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1508337</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1508337</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[SengkangMum]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2015 06:17:45 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths on Sun, 17 May 2015 06:15:52 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">anyone know which P4, P5 or P6 Maths textbook (title, author or publisher) teach Algebra ? <br /><br />because can find Algebra in Secondary Maths text, but a bit chim to P4, 5 students. Thank you, very much, for kind sharing</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1507845</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1507845</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[phtthp]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2015 06:15:52 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths on Sun, 17 May 2015 05:20:35 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>zbear:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>lee_yl:</b><p>Perhaps we can try to stop viewing model drawing and algebra as separate and unrelated methods. Model drawing simplifies the introduction of abstract concepts (such as let the unknown variable be x) and could be viewed as an introduction to algebra. Model drawing makes it easy for lower primary school children to visualize about unknowns as well as break down a complex problem into simpler parts.<br /><br /><br />Drawing models and having to work with units will ease the transition to the next step of stating \"let the unknown variable be x\". Moreover the habit of drawing to visualize a mathematical problem is a good habit and will come in useful when handling more abstract mathematics like vectorial calculus.</p></blockquote></blockquote><br />It maybe good for lower Primary but not necessarily for PSLE.<br /><br />My kids struggled with Models n its a real frustration for them for PSLE maths.<br /><br />Now they are in Sec School/JC, they tell me that Primary School Maths is so tough n non applicable for them now.  They are much happier now.<p></p></blockquote>Model drawing is supposed to help primary children to break down complex problem into smaller parts using visualization. Now that you mention it, I realized that the problem may not be on model drawing itself BUT rather the way section C questions are formulated. Far too convoluted and divorced from the reality!<br /><br />For example, nobody in real life will pose a statement like this, \"today i spent 12/15 of my money on this and half of the remainder on that and another 25% blah blah blah, finally, I am left with twice as much as Cindy. How much does Cindy have initially?\"  :slapshead: I think secondary sch maths are more realistic.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1507830</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1507830</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[lee_yl]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2015 05:20:35 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths on Sun, 17 May 2015 04:29:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>lee_yl:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">Perhaps we can try to stop viewing model drawing and algebra as separate and unrelated methods. Model drawing simplifies the introduction of abstract concepts (such as let the unknown variable be x) and could be viewed as an introduction to algebra. Model drawing makes it easy for lower primary school children to visualize about unknowns as well as break down a complex problem into simpler parts.<br /><br /><br />Drawing models and having to work with units will ease the transition to the next step of stating \"let the unknown variable be x\". Moreover the habit of drawing to visualize a mathematical problem is a good habit and will come in useful when handling more abstract mathematics like vectorial calculus.</blockquote></blockquote><br />It maybe good for lower Primary but not necessarily for PSLE.<br /><br />My kids struggled with Models n its a real frustration for them for PSLE maths.<br /><br />Now they are in Sec School/JC, they tell me that Primary School Maths is so tough n non applicable for them now.  They are much happier now.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1507809</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1507809</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[zbear]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2015 04:29:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths on Sun, 17 May 2015 03:02:06 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Perhaps we can try to stop viewing model drawing and algebra as separate and unrelated methods. Model drawing simplifies the introduction of abstract concepts (such as let the unknown variable be x) and could be viewed as an introduction to algebra. Model drawing makes it easy for lower primary school children to visualize about unknowns as well as break down a complex problem into simpler parts.<br /><br /><br />Drawing models and having to work with units will ease the transition to the next step of stating "let the unknown variable be x". Moreover the habit of drawing to visualize a mathematical problem is a good habit and will come in useful when handling more abstract mathematics like vectorial calculus.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1507746</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1507746</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[lee_yl]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2015 03:02:06 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths on Sun, 17 May 2015 02:58:43 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>zbear:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">The beauty of MOE syabullus is learn Models for Primary School Maths n then when you enter Sec School, throw it back to your Primary School teachers n start learning Algebra becos you don't need to use Models anymore.  <br /><br /><br />To me, MOE only think of short term n not long term.  I really do not understand what is their rationale to make kids learn Models only for Primary School n then unlearn n relearn Alegbra.<br /><br />Oh well, MOE hires scholars to design the syabullus for PSLE, rite?<br /><br /><br /> <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /></blockquote></blockquote> :hi5:<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1507741</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1507741</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[FantasyLandDreams]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2015 02:58:43 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths on Sun, 17 May 2015 02:33:43 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>The beauty of MOE syabullus is learn Models for Primary School Maths n then when you enter Sec School, throw it back to your Primary School teachers n start learning Algebra becos you don't need to use Models anymore.  <br /><br /><br />To me, MOE only think of short term n not long term.  I really do not understand what is their rationale to make kids learn Models only for Primary School n then unlearn n relearn Alegbra.<br /><br />Oh well, MOE hires scholars to design the syabullus for PSLE, rite?<br /><br /><br /> <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1507727</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1507727</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[zbear]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2015 02:33:43 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths on Sun, 17 May 2015 02:19:19 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I can understand the frustration some parents face when using model drawing to solve primary school maths problems.<br /><br /><br />I belong to the era where model drawing was taught and was NOT taught any algebra until secondary school. The concept of model drawing is deeply entrenched in my mind, thus when my dd1 started model drawing, it was easy for me to teach her model drawing since I learnt it before. However, my DH had problems as he belongs to the era where only algebra was taught in primary school. I observed that he tended to use algebra to explain and I could see his frustration with model drawing so I ended up teaching my DD and DH about model drawing.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":smile:" alt="😄" /> <br /><br />After some time, DH got the hang of model drawing and is now able to use it proficiently to help the children. In DH's view, model drawing is a good way to introduce abstract concepts to children and helps them to effectively visualize mathematical problems. <br /><br />For example, the statement about child A having 3 times as many sweets as child B is abstract for a 9 year old kid but will be easy to visualize by drawing out the model. <br /><br />Just have to be prepared to unlearn algebra and learn about model drawing from scratch.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1507723</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1507723</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[lee_yl]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2015 02:19:19 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths on Sun, 17 May 2015 01:37:38 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">My P4 son has problem doing model drawing. The more he draw, the more mistake and usually he will get zero for all model drawing. So I have no choice but to teach him units method and algebra which he find it much easier to comprehen. If without the skills of model drawing, will he face lots of problem in P5 and P6?</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1507700</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1507700</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Twinklesss]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2015 01:37:38 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths on Sat, 16 May 2015 16:49:08 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>What is model drawing in our time? We had never ever use model drawing but yet we passed through our PSLE in using algebra method. And it does not mean that model drawing would be useful for them in Secondary school and they do not use it at all! Another words,  model drawing  is only applicable for  Primary levels which  I feel.   :roll: <br /><br /><br />Most Secondary level is using mostly algebra method to solve maths problem. So it made no difference of using algebra method now in P6 and Secondary level.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1507639</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1507639</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[SengkangMum]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2015 16:49:08 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths on Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:54:40 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>lizawa:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">Algebra, in a way, is very mechanical. Using process skills or models, help the child to visualize and think a little deeper into the question. I think it's good training for the child. <br /></blockquote></blockquote>For those of us who are trained in Algebra, I think we have internalized the method and using it comes very naturally...so much so that we are resistant to other methods. Sometimes, we have to un-learn in order to help our children.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /> <br /><blockquote><b>matrix0405:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">Unless you're prepared to teach your kid algebra, using algebra will further confuse the kid as they are not taught to use this method. Besides, most model questions are set in such a way for using models to solve. Using other methods  likely takes a longer time.</blockquote></blockquote>I totally agree here. I was skeptical and tried to teach my children simultaneous equations when they started learning modeling. My P6 boy has become so proficient with modelling that he will solve his question while I am still resolving the first variable. Mind you, while I had not been a gifted child, I am at least an \"A\" student when it comes to Maths. <br /><br />So personally, I have to say that Algebra may be our thing in the past. We should let the children decide which method they are more comfortable with.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/4581</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/4581</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[heutistmeintag]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:54:40 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths on Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:19:10 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Unless you’re prepared to teach your kid algebra, using algebra will further confuse the kid as they are not taught to use this method. Besides, most model questions are set in such a way for using models to solve. Using other methods  likely takes a longer time.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/4560</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/4560</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[matrix0405]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:19:10 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Use Algebra to solve problems for PSLE Maths on Wed, 04 Jun 2008 06:06:24 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>[quote]Just curious, is your son taught similar way of answering these questions in his school or are the teachers using Model Drawing and Heuristics?[/quote]<br />For these types of questions, he will use the same method I used. He has been taught all these by the school. He will also use model drawing and heuristics, as and when needed. And as and when he thinks is easier or more appropriate. Some questions on fractions are more difficult to be solved by algebra, in his opinion. So he will use ratio or model drawing. <br /><br />You will be surprised, after so many years of training in model drawing, our kids are quite expert already. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f642.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--slightly_smiling_face" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":)" alt="🙂" /></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1933</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1933</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[lizawa]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 06:06:24 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>