ksi:

fusioncat,


Everyone knows a coin has 2 sides, this is quite motherhood.
However, nothing is equally weighted, yes a coin has 2 sides but it does not necessarily weigh equally when halved.

Did you think any of the great leaders work alone? Certainly not! Every leader has its own team, otherwise the person is not known as a leader but a loner.

I acknowledge late GKS's contribution and many more in LKY's team with salutation, but that does not diminish the fact that LKY is the conduit to bring the vision to the people. In a team there is always a thinker, an executioner, a communicator and the communicator is key because no matter how a thinker can develop an idea and an executioner can put it to work, it still needs to be sum up by a good communicator to distribute the information to everyone with leadership qualities that people wants to follow, this is charisma. It is teamwork but he is always at the apex to drive and when it comes to pressure, he will get it first as well. He makes mistakes but he is only human.

I do not worship LKY, I only worship God. I believe it is basic human decency to treat him with the respect he deserves like his team especially as he ages and faces many aging factors and constraints, otherwise it actually reflects poorly on ourselves as a person with no basic human decency. We cannot be raving about the good times of a leader and side-step a leader when they are on a declining curve, that really makes us a disgusting group of people as a nation. Graciousness...

Also, LKY is nowhere near a 秦始皇 (a well-known tyrant) and yet 秦始皇 is well remembered for his great contribution to China for building the infrastructures and the Great Wall until today. So I cannot agree with this statement for retired leaders:

A good leader cease to be a good leader if he does not have responsible, innovative, supportive followers

This statement only shows that we continue to demand highly of others but never self.

ksi:

fusioncat,


Everyone knows a coin has 2 sides, this is quite motherhood.
However, nothing is equally weighted, yes a coin has 2 sides but it does not necessarily weigh equally when halved.

Did you think any of the great leaders work alone? Certainly not! Every leader has its own team, otherwise the person is not known as a leader but a loner.

I acknowledge late GKS's contribution and many more in LKY's team with salutation, but that does not diminish the fact that LKY is the conduit to bring the vision to the people. In a team there is always a thinker, an executioner, a communicator and the communicator is key because no matter how a thinker can develop an idea and an executioner can put it to work, it still needs to be sum up by a good communicator to distribute the information to everyone with leadership qualities that people wants to follow, this is charisma. It is teamwork but he is always at the apex to drive and when it comes to pressure, he will get it first as well. He makes mistakes but he is only human.

I do not worship LKY, I only worship God. I believe it is basic human decency to treat him with the respect he deserves like his team especially as he ages and faces many aging factors and constraints, otherwise it actually reflects poorly on ourselves as a person with no basic human decency. We cannot be raving about the good times of a leader and side-step a leader when they are on a declining curve, that really makes us a disgusting group of people as a nation. Graciousness...

Also, LKY is nowhere near a 秦始皇 (a well-known tyrant) and yet 秦始皇 is well remembered for his great contribution to China for building the infrastructures and the Great Wall until today. So I cannot agree with this statement for retired leaders:

A good leader cease to be a good leader if he does not have responsible, innovative, supportive followers

This statement only shows that we continue to demand highly of others but never self.

Angelight:

:goodpost: ksi. You've spoken my sentiments exactly.

ksi:

It is teamwork but he is always at the apex to drive and when it comes to pressure, he will get it first as well. He makes mistakes but he is only human.

Funz:

LKY has really aged a lot since his wife's passing.

phtthp:

ksi,


clarify - i am just stating a fact of life. Thats all, Ok ? pls dun misunderstand, get upset. Thank you.

Mr Lee is our great founder of Singapore, many of us respect him, including myself.

ksi:

Funz:

Not just that, I heard snippets of his interview on his new book on bilingualism. His speech was slurred and his voice shakey.


This is life and ageing. I feel twinges of sadness when I see how much he as deteriorated. And if you read Sunday Times, his daughter has a column and she has alluded to his failing health as well. :sad:

Makes me wanna run home and hug my daddy now.

So moral of the story is we should give LKY more positive feedback and give him the reason to press on more energetically. I find the recent bashings on the Net about his comments and all very uncalled for. If we want to see a more energised him, we need to give more cheerleading and not all the unwarranted rude remarks about him that I have read.
:mad: :mad: :mad: :stompfeet: :stompfeet: :stompfeet: :rant: :rant: :rant:

PS: Funz, I am not refering to you, just using your post of his failing health to reflect how some nasty feedback about his remarks on some issues can contribute to his poorer health.

phtthp:

Time and tide is cruel to one's health. We can't control aging.

phtthp:

how old is LKY this year ? past 90 ?

Funz:

Not just that, I heard snippets of his interview on his new book on bilingualism. His speech was slurred and his voice shakey.


This is life and ageing. I feel twinges of sadness when I see how much he as deteriorated. And if you read Sunday Times, his daughter has a column and she has alluded to his failing health as well. :sad:

Makes me wanna run home and hug my daddy now.

Funz:

...Makes me wanna run home and hug my daddy now.

Funz:

LKY has really aged a lot since his wife's passing.