laughingcat:

Yesterday night i was talking to my hubby about this topics. His reply \"aiyoh......no need lah. Just bio smart cha boh to do your homework loh\". :yikes: :skeptical: :rotflmao:

chamonix:

Chenonceau:

Not joking. My son very blur one. Forget this. Forget that. She takes pleasure in telling on him. So he let her copy lor... lucky he is good in Science. Got bargaining chip. DS says there are 3 kinds of girls

(1) the friendly and quiet ones
(2) the friendly and noisy ones
(3) the mean ones
(4) the ones that are like boys

He likes the 4th type best. I hope that changes. Anyway, this prefect is the #3 type. Not joking. Got my son scolded MANY times. I roughly calculated what it would cost me to invite her over and give her food poisoning... :evil: :evil:

My daughter falls under the third category - the mean ones. There was a time when a french boy in school kept stealing bites from her lunchbox, she threatened him in English that she was going to put something in the food to give him diarrhoea. :rotflmao:

Chenonceau:

Not joking. My son very blur one. Forget this. Forget that. She takes pleasure in telling on him. So he let her copy lor... lucky he is good in Science. Got bargaining chip. DS says there are 3 kinds of girls

(1) the friendly and quiet ones
(2) the friendly and noisy ones
(3) the mean ones
(4) the ones that are like boys

He likes the 4th type best. I hope that changes. Anyway, this prefect is the #3 type. Not joking. Got my son scolded MANY times. I roughly calculated what it would cost me to invite her over and give her food poisoning... :evil: :evil:

concern2:

Chenonceau:

DS sat next to a prefect last year who blackmailed him thus: \"Allow me to copy your Science worksheets. For every X number of questions, you get X number of points. The next time you forget to bring YOUR books or homework, you can redeem your points for me not telling Teacher about you.\"


All my son did was forget his books. What this girl did was...

P-PREFECT! :yikes: How did she get to be a prefect? Prefect supposed to be student leaders - no? Is that how our future leaders going to be?

Wow. redeem your points for me not telling Teacher about you. Little undesirable behaviors like that if not corrected and gets viewed as 'smartness' , our future will be doomed - unless, she's merely joking .

Chenonceau:

concern2:

[quote=\"Chenonceau\"]DS sat next to a prefect last year who blackmailed him thus: \"Allow me to copy your Science worksheets. For every X number of questions, you get X number of points. The next time you forget to bring YOUR books or homework, you can redeem your points for me not telling Teacher about you.\"


All my son did was forget his books. What this girl did was...

P-PREFECT! :yikes: How did she get to be a prefect? Prefect supposed to be student leaders - no? Is that how our future leaders going to be?

Wow. redeem your points for me not telling Teacher about you. Little undesirable behaviors like that if not corrected and gets viewed as 'smartness' , our future will be doomed - unless, she's merely joking .

Chenonceau:

ksi:

Abuse of power starts young.....

I should have given her a poisoned apple. For all you know Snow White was a meanie... and that's why someone's Mom gave her a poisoned apple. Mwahahahahahahaha!

Or perhaps some enhanced chwee kueh... everyone likes chwee kueh right?

Chenonceau:

Not joking. My son very blur one. Forget this. Forget that. She takes pleasure in telling on him. So he let her copy lor... lucky he is good in Science. Got bargaining chip. DS says there are 3 kinds of girls

(1) the friendly and quiet ones
(2) the friendly and noisy ones
(3) the mean ones
(4) the ones that are like boys

He likes the 4th type best. I hope that changes. Anyway, this prefect is the #3 type. Not joking. Got my son scolded MANY times. I roughly calculated what it would cost me to invite her over and give her food poisoning... :evil: :evil:

Chenonceau:

ksi:

Gosh! Hospitalized....how much worse can it get before it receives any attention? I hope MOE is aware of such overload of hw and can do something about it. I do not think the children are wimps nor parents over protective, workload just need to be realistic with only 24 hrs a day, period.

To be fair... I was quite pleased with her school lah... There were hiccups but because it was a top school (and therefore different from other schools in how it was run) I did not see the issues as generally applicable to all schools, and affecting the disadvantaged. The girls are somewhat to blame. One makes choices. Everyone has the same subjects but there is so much CCA to choose from... and my girl loooooooooved CCA. There was this and there was that.

My way around it was to get her exempted from homework but I only paid more attention AFTER she came down with pneumonia.

So... I resolved the issues amicably with the school management. My only issue was with the insidious undercurrent of arrogance that was never far below the surface. Almost twice a year for for years, I had to give her an earful about \"elitism\"... and feeling so smug and contented that she did not know a wider world less privileged exists... and that she should care.

ksi:

Abuse of power starts young.....

concern2:

Chenonceau:

DS sat next to a prefect last year who blackmailed him thus: \"Allow me to copy your Science worksheets. For every X number of questions, you get X number of points. The next time you forget to bring YOUR books or homework, you can redeem your points for me not telling Teacher about you.\"


All my son did was forget his books. What this girl did was...

P-PREFECT! :yikes: How did she get to be a prefect? Prefect supposed to be student leaders - no? Is that how our future leaders going to be?

Wow. redeem your points for me not telling Teacher about you. Little undesirable behaviors like that if not corrected and gets viewed as 'smartness' , our future will be doomed - unless, she's merely joking .

ksi:

Gosh! Hospitalized....how much worse can it get before it receives any attention? I hope MOE is aware of such overload of hw and can do something about it. I do not think the children are wimps nor parents over protective, workload just need to be realistic with only 24 hrs a day, period.

Augmum:

ksi:

http://www.edvantage.com.sg/edvantage/news/news/983630/Parents_hire_tutors_to_do_kids_school_and_tuition_assignments.html

i am really appalled to read such news.....
hiring tutors to do sch or tuition homework , never know it exists :yikes:

i have not heard such things from my gal, at least not amongst her class or schmates that we know of......

it is so....so.... common for these IP pupils to go to bed at only midnite,
yes, they dont have sufficent hrs of sleep, and it's not healthy.....
but is a matter of adjustments and they would know how to \"steal some hrs of sleep\" to makeup for it.

paying $200 per hr to such tutors to do the sch homework ??
my gal would def tell me, \" No Way!!! mummy, please save up such money\" :evil:

Chenonceau:

DS sat next to a prefect last year who blackmailed him thus: \"Allow me to copy your Science worksheets. For every X number of questions, you get X number of points. The next time you forget to bring YOUR books or homework, you can redeem your points for me not telling Teacher about you.\"


All my son did was forget his books. What this girl did was...

Chenonceau:

My DD didn't have tuition in secondary school. But she landed in hospital because she had time to sleep only 3 hours a night at one point. I complained and the Principal blamed it on Facebook. But there really was a lot of homework EVEN for a girl with NO tuition at all.

What is life like for those with 8 to 9 tuition? Academic slavery? Sweat shop of good grades?

concern2:

Chenonceau:

DS sat next to a prefect last year who blackmailed him thus: \"Allow me to copy your Science worksheets. For every X number of questions, you get X number of points. The next time you forget to bring YOUR books or homework, you can redeem your points for me not telling Teacher about you.\"


All my son did was forget his books. What this girl did was...

P-PREFECT! :yikes: How did she get to be a prefect? Prefect supposed to be student leaders - no? Is that how our future leaders going to be?

Wow. redeem your points for me not telling Teacher about you. Little undesirable behaviors like that if not corrected and gets viewed as 'smartness' , our future will be doomed - unless, she's merely joking .

Chenonceau:

DS sat next to a prefect last year who blackmailed him thus: \"Allow me to copy your Science worksheets. For every X number of questions, you get X number of points. The next time you forget to bring YOUR books or homework, you can redeem your points for me not telling Teacher about you.\"


All my son did was forget his books. What this girl did was...

Chenonceau:

[My DD didn't have tuition in secondary school. But she landed in hospital because she had time to sleep only 3 hours a night at one point. I complained and the Principal blamed it on Facebook. But there really was a lot of homework EVEN for a girl with NO tuition at all.

ksi:

http://www.edvantage.com.sg/edvantage/news/news/983630/Parents_hire_tutors_to_do_kids_school_and_tuition_assignments.html

ksi:

concern2:

I finally get to read the entire article, and I like the last part especially.


For one, it reminds us never to say 'never'. Perhaps our time just hasn't come yet. The same applies for parents who drill their kids with excessive enrichment/tuition. Never say 'never' that your child may find it unbearable one day and decide to turn the opposite direction.

Yes it CAN certainly happen to our kids that kind of workload knowing that many of our teachers work in a SILO and think that every child only studies the subject that they teach only. There is no integration between the teachers in the curriculum, everyone sets their own amount of homework, ended up the children get a mountain of homework. The right thing to do is for parents to get together and feedback to the teachers how UNREALISTIC some of the amount of homework and deadlines are, not to hire tutors to complete the work. It simply defeats the purpose of homework if the teachers are marking professionals' work. Would they prefer to listen to feedback or spend time marking scripts that are not even done by the kids. OR a worser scenario of a degenerating nation whereby the scripts are outsourced for marking as well....so NOBODY is really doing any real work but MONEY is working only for the wayang show to show that alot of WORK has been done? Again food for thought.

concern2:

ksi:

Child B had no qualms about copied work and where was this learnt?

Case 2:
Again, what made Child C think that copying lock stock barrel was ok?

As adults, if we do not condone this as part of character building, would the children have the audacity to insist on copying all the time and copying without processing(Japanese, Koreans, Chinese copy but they do reverse engineering with enhancements) but lock, stock, barrel? Food for thought.

Yes, I am starting to hear more about 'copying' in class. DS was telling me a classmate (A) was spotted referring to his text book to find answers for his worksheet, and was told by another classmate (B) that he should not do it. At first, A insisted, not thinking there was anything wrong. After a few times of being told that it was wrong to do so by peers, he started sulking. Classmate C offered to help. But all C did was to let A copy his answers. There was no objection from classmate B that it was wrong.

I don't know where the kids got the idea that copying from friend was more all right than referring to the textbook for help. Perhaps it is due to getting the students to copy model answers from the very start? Or are there situations that are happening that we don't know about?

concern2:

I finally get to read the entire article, and I like the last part especially.


For one, it reminds us never to say 'never'. Perhaps our time just hasn't come yet. The same applies for parents who drill their kids with excessive enrichment/tuition. Never say 'never' that your child may find it unbearable one day and decide to turn the opposite direction.