<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Outrage over kindergarten&#x27;s &#x27;tuition&#x27; classes]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><u><u><i><i><b><b>Outrage over kindergarten's 'tuition' classes </b></b></i></i></u></u><br /><br /><br />Chai Hung Yin | The New Paper | Fri Mar 9 2012 <br />-------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />When Madam Rohani Sa'adon read the letter from her six-year-old son's kindergarten in Ang Mo Kio about tuition classes, she was taken aback.<br /><br />The letter seemed to say that the extra lessons would be compulsory.<br /><br />Tuition for her kid would be something new, and it would have put a strain on her family finances.<br /><br />Speaking in Malay, the 30-year-old widow and mother of four kids aged between six and 13, said: \"I'm not working. I have to think of the other kids too.\"<br /><br />Another parent was irate enough to send a snapshot of the letter to media outlets, including one which was uploaded on The New Paper's Facebook page, along with a comment expressing surprise that tuition was needed for kindergarten kids.<br /><br />The monthly fees are $40, with an additional $10 semester fee which is collected every six months.<br /><br />The letter asked parents to hand over the money to the kids' class teacher for two-hour sessions each Saturday for \"English and Mathematics\".<br /><br />There was no mention of an opt-out option. When contacted, the PAP Community Foundation (PCF) confirmed that the letter was sent out by one of its four kindergartens in Teck Ghee.<br /><br />A spokesman clarified that the letter should not have used the word \"tuition\" as the centre meant \"enrichment lessons\" instead.<br /><br />Some parents at the PCF Teck Ghee Education Centre had requested its principal to organise enrichment lessons in English and Mathematics for their children during the weekend, said the spokesman.<br /><br />She said: \"These are parents who they feel require extra help in learning or want their children to learn more, and are not able to get that learning at home.<br /><br />\"However, instead of enrichment classes, the word 'tuition' was inadvertently used instead.\"<br /><br />The spokesman also clarified that the lessons were not compulsory and were sent to gauge interest from the other parents.<br /><br />\"We would like to apologise for any misunderstanding and confusion that arose as a result\".<br /><br />However, the parents' reactions remain mixed on the concept of tuition or extra classes for their tots. <br /><br />Horrified <br /><br />Some, like Madam Sarah Lin, a 30-year-old mother of two daughters aged three years old and 10 months old, were horrified.<br /><br />She said: \"That's ridiculous! They are too young to have tuition classes. Let them enjoy their childhood.<br /><br />\"From Primary One onwards, there's a curriculum for schools to follow.<br /><br />\"But for kindergartens, there's no centralised framework. Different kindergartens have different curricula. So what are these tuition classes for?\"<br /><br />Miss Aspa Mohd Hatta, whose four-year-old niece is in K1, said the terms used to describe these extra lessons do not matter to her.<br /><br />\"Whether it is tuition or enrichment class, they both mean the same thing to me,\" said the 31-year-old day trader, who became a guardian of her niece after the girl's father died.<br /><br />A day trader buys and sells financial instruments, like stocks and options, within the same trading day before the market closes.<br /><br />She added: \"My niece is still too young for tuition classes. Kids her age should be focusing on playing hard for now.\"<br /><br />Tuition agencies contacted by The New Paper said that there is demand for tuition at the K1 and K2 levels, though it is much lower than for older children.<br /><br />Mr Kevan Soh, 26, who owns A Grader tuition agency, said about five out of every 100 queries would be for tuition at K1 and K2.<br /><br />Mr Andy Chan, 30, who owns tuition agency EdustarAsia Tuition Services, said it receives about 10 to 15 enquiries a week for K1 and K2 tuition.<br /><br />Both men report increasing demand for such services. The popular subjects? English and Chinese languages, said Mr Soh.<br /><br />\"Parents want tuition for their K1 and K2 children to prepare them for the Primary One syllabus,\" said Mr han.<br /><br />One parent, Madam Tan Meiyin, felt that it was \"a matter of packaging\".<br /><br />The 30-year-old business development assistant manager and mother of three, said she sends her eldest daughter to such extra classes conducted by the kindergarten she is attending.<br /><br />But the kindergarten termed it as \"preparatory classes for Primary One\".<br /><br />Madam Tan said: \"It's about the exposure that my daughter gets, so that she wouldn't be too surprised by the Primary One syllabus, which is very different from the K2 syllabus.\"<br /><br /><i><i>This article was first published in The New Paper.</i></i></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/33009/outrage-over-kindergarten-s-tuition-classes</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 09:59:26 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/33009.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 10:00:46 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Outrage over kindergarten&#x27;s &#x27;tuition&#x27; classes on Fri, 04 May 2012 09:25:00 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>FQW:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><br />And sometimes, even when one has the time and know-how, the patience part is lacking. I've a friend who's a qualified piano teacher but she sent her dd to be taught by another. She said that familarity breeds contempt; for both parties. She doesn't want every night to be a banshee vs harpy contest of will.</blockquote></blockquote>yes yes! That's my situation! I rather take the supporting role, knowing that I am no expert in phonics, right brain training and etc. Also, I hv no patience...<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/756450</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/756450</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Imami]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 09:25:00 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Outrage over kindergarten&#x27;s &#x27;tuition&#x27; classes on Fri, 04 May 2012 09:15:14 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>buds:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><br />Not every family is privileged to have a stay home parent to guide the children, regardless the father or the mother. Not every family can afford to sustain on a single income. It is a sweeping statement to say that parents should all spend time with the children to teach them everything they need to know at home. Just because some of us can, it doesn't mean everyone can. Plus i have to say, not all who can stay home can teach well. Some parents who think they know how to teach end up doing more harm by teaching the wrong things. It's ok to outsource if things aren't our forte to begin with. Not everyone knows everything, right?  :skeptical: As it is now, everyone can read how so many parents are griping over teachers in primary schools who have to teach Eng, Math &amp; Sci (all three) while they may only be great at one and it is causing their children to have poor foundation in concepts which aren't their forte.<br /><br /> :goodpost: indeed. Everyone's circumstances are different. One size doesn't fit all. <br />Also not to say that parents who outsource are ones who never bothered to try in the first place. Different strokes for different folks, so i wouldn't judge the decisions of parents.</blockquote></blockquote><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/756446</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/756446</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Imami]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 09:15:14 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Outrage over kindergarten&#x27;s &#x27;tuition&#x27; classes on Thu, 22 Mar 2012 17:05:51 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">It might be due to fewer opportunities in Singapore.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/733441</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/733441</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mdm Koh]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 17:05:51 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Outrage over kindergarten&#x27;s &#x27;tuition&#x27; classes on Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:27:05 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>laughingcat:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"> For years, countries wondering why SGP always top in mathematics and science. </blockquote></blockquote><br />They should wonder even more why up to A levels we are all tops in the world in Math and Science but eh... How come so few world-renown Mathematics and Scientists here, no NOBEL prize winners too from little red dot. Why why :?<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/733405</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/733405</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow Crystal]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:27:05 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Outrage over kindergarten&#x27;s &#x27;tuition&#x27; classes on Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:06:52 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>autumnbronze:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">Hi DesertWind,<br /><br /><br /> :hugs: to ya ...<br /><br />But you are noble to me leh. You are actually attempting to give him one to one. Even though you say bo pian, but you have made a choice to see him through this ....  :salute: <br /><br />May I offer some suggestions  :please: <br /><br />You can try dropping by the educational shop at Thomson Plaza, (if it's convenient for you) I cannot remember the name. It's located opposite the POSB bank, along the same row as Bata.  The sales lady is very helpful.<br /><br />Two materials that were highly recommended are the Ants on the Apple Cd and Leapfrog phonics series DVDs.<br /><br />Alternatively, if you have the time, you can peruse Tamarind's blog or buds' postings in the Montesorri phonics thread.<br /><br />Hope these help <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":smile:" alt="😄" /></blockquote></blockquote>Hi AB,<br />Thank you very much for your encouragement and recommendations!<br /><br />Yes, I know which shop you are referring to at Thomson Plaza and I have actually just dropped by there last weekend to ask them about phonics CDs and DVDs!  <br /><br />Yes, read the thread on Leapfrog DVDs and guess what, my boy actually LOVES the Leapfrog Letter Factory and he can sing so clear the \"A\" and \"B' and \"C\" and the sound so clearly!  <br /><br />But I must \"complain\" about the Leapfrog letters.  The first one \"A\" the professor actually sang as \"The Yei says air,  The Yei says air\".  I thought it should be \"The A says air\"!  And then in the DVD, the \"L\" says \"O\"!  :?   Yes I know Tamarind explained that it is actually \"UL\" which was the sound from the Leapfrog Phonics Bus.  But in the Leapfrog DVD, they actually said \"O\" which I thought very misleading to a young boy.  My boy actually imitates exactly and sings accurately according to what he heard \"The Yei says air!\"  :slapshead: <br /><br />His kindy using Jolly Phonics so although I not much like the cartoons on the cover of the DVD, went to buy anyway and have yet to try him out.  The songs I thought should be quite interesting! <br /><br />As for the pink boxes Montessori, yes, went to buy that too.  Boy more interested in the cute toys and couple of pieces thrown about already.   :faint: <br /><br />I think all mothers are noble in one way or the other.<br /><br />Jiayou!<br /> :hi5: <br /> :celebrate:<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/733400</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/733400</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[DesertWind]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:06:52 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Outrage over kindergarten&#x27;s &#x27;tuition&#x27; classes on Thu, 22 Mar 2012 14:30:31 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Hi DesertWind,<br /><br /><br /> :hugs: to ya ...<br /><br />But you are noble to me leh. You are actually attempting to give him one to one. Even though you say bo pian, but you have made a choice to see him through this ....  :salute: <br /><br />May I offer some suggestions  :please: <br /><br />You can try dropping by the educational shop at Thomson Plaza, (if it's convenient for you) I cannot remember the name. It's located opposite the POSB bank, along the same row as Bata.  The sales lady is very helpful.<br /><br />Two materials that were highly recommended are the Ants on the Apple Cd and Leapfrog phonics series DVDs.<br /><br />Alternatively, if you have the time, you can peruse Tamarind's blog or buds' postings in the Montesorri phonics thread.<br /><br />Hope these help <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":smile:" alt="😄" /></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/733375</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/733375</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[autumnbronze]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 14:30:31 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Outrage over kindergarten&#x27;s &#x27;tuition&#x27; classes on Thu, 22 Mar 2012 04:54:22 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Massive headache trying to read through this thread.  Very emo. some too. <br /><br />For me, boy-boy's kindy teacher told me to teach him phonics because he seems not to know.  Lump of stress right now in my throat, gotta go buy phonics CD and book and will try to revise with him....that is...if I do not vomit blood first.<br /><br />Moi definitely not one of those \"noble ones\" whoever this refers to.  Yup, I am trying to teach my boy-boy at home (due to the bo-pian-see he needs one-to-one).  So I am not sending him to phonics classes (due to no time and no-one to send him since I FTWM).  <br /><br />Gotta make do with our current educational system....yes...definitely for me...yes.  Time and tide wait for no man, by the time we finished debating, probably my boy-boy already grown up liow.<br /><br />But I very much appreciate the sharing by experienced mummies who have been there and done that.  Learnt a lot from them although I must admit I may not necessarily understand since I have not gone down the same paths.  <br /><br />Cheers all!<br /><br />[PS: to be fair to my boy-boy's kindy teacher, I must say I actually ASKED her whether is there anything that we can do at home to help my boy anything she feels he does not know?  So she told me phonics.   :sick:  So I guess I deserve it.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f937.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--shrug" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":shrug:" alt="🤷" /> ]</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/732966</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/732966</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[DesertWind]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 04:54:22 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Outrage over kindergarten&#x27;s &#x27;tuition&#x27; classes on Mon, 19 Mar 2012 16:07:29 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">what are the kids learning everyday, inside the 4 hrs PCF Teck Ghee kindergarten ?<br /><br />why can’t they teach "P1 preparatory" content inside these 4 hrs everyday ? Then what are the parents paying them monthly for ?</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/731360</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/731360</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[phtthp]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 16:07:29 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Outrage over kindergarten&#x27;s &#x27;tuition&#x27; classes on Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:15:33 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>buds:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>laughingcat:</b><p>At the end of the day.....who cares. Only parents care and responsibilities just fall back on parents. Might as well make do with the system. Accept it and move on. At least makes life simplier and less stress. Keep complianing on the system won't even help current situation. Afterall should the policy do change, it will takes yeeeeeaaarrsssssss.</p></blockquote></blockquote><br />I'm an educator too. I care. :please:<br />I have many educator frenz who care too.<br />We care enough to zoom in on whom we observe<br />need more help.. we explain things in a different way<br />should one way not work.. we share often with parents on<br />their children's weak areas &amp; successes (no matter how small)<br />and partner them so we can overcome any challenges together so<br />the children will never be left behind.. in short, our doors are always<br />open and our hearts are always there... in the right place... where they<br />rightly belong.<br /><br />There ARE still many good educators around. Even if we do get the \"off\" one<br />once or twice, it doesn't mean there are no longer good ones around. There are.. :love:<p></p></blockquote> :hi5: sista!!<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/729678</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/729678</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[autumnbronze]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:15:33 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Outrage over kindergarten&#x27;s &#x27;tuition&#x27; classes on Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:33:01 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>laughingcat:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">At the end of the day.....who cares. Only parents care and responsibilities just fall back on parents. Might as well make do with the system. Accept it and move on. At least makes life simplier and less stress. Keep complianing on the system won't even help current situation. Afterall should the policy do change, it will takes yeeeeeaaarrsssssss.</blockquote></blockquote><br />I'm an educator too. I care. :please:<br />I have many educator frenz who care too.<br />We care enough to zoom in on whom we observe<br />need more help.. we explain things in a different way<br />should one way not work.. we share often with parents on<br />their children's weak areas &amp; successes (no matter how small)<br />and partner them so we can overcome any challenges together so<br />the children will never be left behind.. in short, our doors are always<br />open and our hearts are always there... in the right place... where they<br />rightly belong.<br /><br />There ARE still many good educators around. Even if we do get the \"off\" ones<br />once or twice, it doesn't mean there are no longer good ones around. There are.. :love:<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/729628</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/729628</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[buds]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:33:01 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Outrage over kindergarten&#x27;s &#x27;tuition&#x27; classes on Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:09:58 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Nebbermind:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>firefly38:</b><p> If you have been following other ''rather similar'' threads (which i believe you have), you would have noticed, by now, that it has always been the very same ''righteous'' &amp; ''noble'' few, who are ever cynical, critical and anti-everything about the s'pore's education system (GEP, SAP, PSLE, IP etc.. you name it, they ''anti-'' it)! And many of them do write extremely well too, which explains why they could coach their kids themselves, and hence do not understand why other parents could not do so! <br /></p></blockquote></blockquote>Now I understand why I was specifically highlighted somewhere else. :evil:<p></p></blockquote>Why? <br />Which one refers to you?<br /><br />The \"been following other similar threads\" wan or the \"write extremely well\" wan? :evil:<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/729625</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/729625</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[buds]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:09:58 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Outrage over kindergarten&#x27;s &#x27;tuition&#x27; classes on Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:37:30 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>concern2:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><br />And to think that this problem isn't exclusive to our country and gets worse as countries develop.  It takes each and everyone one's will and wisdom to make any change possible.  And that is like 愚公移山.</blockquote></blockquote>You are correct that this problem isn't exclusive to our own. There is PISA grading for countries to participate. For years, countries wondering why SGP always top in mathematics and science. In order to learn, leverage and tap on SGP way of teaching mathematics, countries approached SGP and we lend our expertise by going abroad to teach. These folks are people like Marshall Cavendish (together with ministers lah) and they are proud to said that they have covered 5 continents and countries like Saudi, part of USA states etc are adopting My Pals mathematics textbooks. <br /><br />What i would really like is......are SGP teachers exposed to such learning like the overseas counterpart?<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/728249</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/728249</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[laughingcat]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:37:30 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Outrage over kindergarten&#x27;s &#x27;tuition&#x27; classes on Mon, 12 Mar 2012 08:57:21 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Chenonceau:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>laughingcat:</b><p>At the end of the day.....who cares. Only parents care and responsibilities just fall back on parents. Might as well make do with the system. Accept it and move on. At least makes life simplier and less stress. Keep complianing on the system won't even help current situation. Afterall should the policy do change, it will takes yeeeeeaaarrsssssss.</p></blockquote></blockquote><br />Yeah lor....  :sad: Sianzzzzzzzz<p></p></blockquote>And to think that this problem isn't exclusive to our country and gets worse as countries develop.  It takes each and everyone one's will and wisdom to make any change possible.  And that is like 愚公移山.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/728207</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/728207</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[concern2]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 08:57:21 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Outrage over kindergarten&#x27;s &#x27;tuition&#x27; classes on Mon, 12 Mar 2012 05:12:13 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>laughingcat:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">At the end of the day.....who cares. Only parents care and responsibilities just fall back on parents. Might as well make do with the system. Accept it and move on. At least makes life simplier and less stress. Keep complianing on the system won't even help current situation. Afterall should the policy do change, it will takes yeeeeeaaarrsssssss.</blockquote></blockquote><br />Yeah lor....  :sad: Sianzzzzzzzz<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/728067</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/728067</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chenonceau]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 05:12:13 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Outrage over kindergarten&#x27;s &#x27;tuition&#x27; classes on Mon, 12 Mar 2012 04:42:58 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">At the end of the day…who cares. Only parents care and responsibilities just fall back on parents. Might as well make do with the system. Accept it and move on. At least makes life simplier and less stress. Keep complianing on the system won’t even help current situation. Afterall should the policy do change, it will takes yeeeeeaaarrsssssss.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/728054</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/728054</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[laughingcat]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 04:42:58 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Outrage over kindergarten&#x27;s &#x27;tuition&#x27; classes on Mon, 12 Mar 2012 04:38:31 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>LOLMum:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">I wonder who is taking the lead now.<br /><br /><br />Is tuition centre trying to catch up with school or school trying to catch up with tuition centre.</blockquote></blockquote>The school is expecting the tuition centers to do the school's job..<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/728049</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/728049</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[limlim]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 04:38:31 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Outrage over kindergarten&#x27;s &#x27;tuition&#x27; classes on Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:57:22 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>buds:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>BeContented:</b><p>[quote=\"buds\"]Because at present, i suppose i am just contented. :please:<br /><br />Because i'm contented, i'm happy with what i have or can have. <br /><span style="\&quot;font-size:">(And so i guess i bitch less about a lotta stuff..) <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /></span><br /><br />While the almost-seemingly-Utopian task of revamping or change takes place, i make do with what i can and like the positive thinking others here, make the best of it... how i can.<br /><br />PS. I didn't dare step into your good schools thread.. :nailbite: As you have already iterated, our bridges are a wee bit far apart. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><br /><br />Just a short note to share that i believe all schools are good schools... built to provide/offer education to our children with spanking facilities if compared to other less-privileged countries.. BUT it is the people facilitating the schools that makes the difference. <br /><br />Every single one of them. :love:</p></blockquote></blockquote><b><b>I like. <span style="\&quot;font-size:"> I like!!!</span> </b></b>  :rahrah:  <br /><span style="\&quot;font-size:">must show you how much I like mah ... kekeke.</span><p></p></blockquote>You my idol mah.. :please:<br />BeContented is a good mantra to live by.<br />So we are always grounded in our ways of life.<br />Not to say that we are not ambitious or not bothered to strive for better.<br />But when we are contented can we then at least be happy. Life's just too short.[/quote] :love:   Yap, life is just too short......learn to accept and be contented so that we can be happier <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f642.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--slightly_smiling_face" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":)" alt="🙂" />  傻人有傻福。   平凡也是福。 知足常乐。 <br /> <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f57a.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--man_dancing" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":man_dancing:" alt="🕺" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/727847</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/727847</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[BeContented]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:57:22 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Outrage over kindergarten&#x27;s &#x27;tuition&#x27; classes on Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:30:53 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>firefly38:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"> If you have been following other ''rather similar'' threads (which i believe you have), you would have noticed, by now, that it has always been the very same ''righteous'' &amp; ''noble'' few, who are ever cynical, critical and anti-everything about the s'pore's education system (GEP, SAP, PSLE, IP etc.. you name it, they ''anti-'' it)! And many of them do write extremely well too, which explains why they could coach their kids themselves, and hence do not understand why other parents could not do so! <br /></blockquote></blockquote>Now I understand why I was specifically highlighted somewhere else. :evil:<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/727839</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/727839</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nebbermind]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:30:53 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Outrage over kindergarten&#x27;s &#x27;tuition&#x27; classes on Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:30:44 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>buds:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><br /><blockquote><b>autumnbronze:</b><p>ps: erhem, erhem, if I may just MIS-quote Yeats' Poem \"The Second Coming\"<br /><br />Things fall apart, the centre cannot hold<br />Mere anarchy is loosed upon the depts/school ......<br /><br />Okie, just trying to be cheeky here  :siam:</p></blockquote></blockquote>Gosh, i dunno if it's just me cause i've just caught up on a notti version just by<br />looking at the ehem... poem. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><p></p></blockquote><br />Kekekekeke .... <br /><br />You mean the TITLE of the poem sista  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f606.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--laughing" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":laughing:" alt="😆" /> <br /><br /> <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/727751</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/727751</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[autumnbronze]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:30:44 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Outrage over kindergarten&#x27;s &#x27;tuition&#x27; classes on Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:12:29 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>FQW:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><br />I've no quarrel with you, Chen. Peace  :xedfingers: <br /><br />Btw, sending my ds for enrichment is not solely motivated by marks alone. The fact that I'm getting my son to learn things that will never, ever be tested in exams tells me that part of my motivation is to expose him to the joy of learning itself.<br /><br />In P1, he preferred to play the piano in the sch's foyer with his friends, rather than play in the field with his other friends during recess. In P2, he prefers to join his friends in the library to read books, rather than play in the field. In other words, he's more studious than sporty. <br /><br />So as a parent, I take it upon myself to support him in his area of interest.</blockquote></blockquote>Yes... I understand. I am also enriching DS in English Literature. He is now exploring symbolism in The Great Gatsby with an online high school. This might even jeopardise his PSLE but he is really very keen and is a way for him to let off steam. When he was little, we enriched him at home in Science because he liked and I liked... we didn't expect that all this would anchor him well in P5 and P6.<br /><br />Mine is studious too but with a bit of prodding, he has found a sport that he enjoys.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/727712</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/727712</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chenonceau]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:12:29 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Outrage over kindergarten&#x27;s &#x27;tuition&#x27; classes on Sun, 11 Mar 2012 09:53:21 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>buds:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><br />So like my sista autumn, with baby in arms now snuggled for his nap,<br />on only my iPhone and one hand I just had to drop a quick note...<br /><br />You guys... (all three of you) :grphug: GREAT POSTS! :celebrate:<br /> </blockquote></blockquote>Thanks buds. But I must say, that's one dexterous hand you got there. Typing so much with one hand.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f602.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--joy" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":joy:" alt="😂" /> <br /><blockquote><b>Chenonceau:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">We mock the system itself, and in so doing, we hope to tell the Minister that parents are only half at fault. Unless MOE stops testing beyond at every level, even P1, then parents like me won't have to teach... and you won't feel that tuition is necessary.<br /><br />Apologies if you felt targeted.</blockquote></blockquote>I've no quarrel with you, Chen. Peace  :xedfingers: <br /><br />Btw, sending my ds for enrichment is not solely motivated by marks alone. The fact that I'm getting my son to learn things that will never, ever be tested in exams tells me that part of my motivation is to expose him to the joy of learning itself.<br /><br />In P1, he preferred to play the piano in the sch's foyer with his friends, rather than play in the field with his other friends during recess. In P2, he prefers to join his friends in the library to read books, rather than play in the field. In other words, he's more studious than sporty. <br /><br />So as a parent, I take it upon myself to support him in his area of interest.<br /><blockquote><b>buds:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">It is a sweeping statement to say that parents should all spend time with the children to teach them everything they need to know at home. Just because some of us can, it doesn't mean everyone can. Plus i have to say, not all who can stay home can teach well. Some parents who think they know how to teach end up doing more harm by teaching the wrong things.</blockquote></blockquote>And sometimes, even when one has the time and know-how, the patience part is lacking. I've a friend who's a qualified piano teacher but she sent her dd to be taught by another. She said that familarity breeds contempt; for both parties. She doesn't want every night to be a banshee vs harpy contest of will.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/727709</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/727709</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[iRabbit]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 09:53:21 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Outrage over kindergarten&#x27;s &#x27;tuition&#x27; classes on Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:20:57 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>LOLMum:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">I wonder who is taking the lead now.<br /><br /><br />Is tuition centre trying to catch up with school or school trying to catch up with tuition centre.</blockquote></blockquote>Errr... Everyone is trying to keep up with the times. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><br /><br />Some not knowing what \"times\" they are in. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f602.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--joy" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":joy:" alt="😂" /><br /><br />Not everyone is discerning enough to read between the lines.<br />Not everyone is discerning enough to filter what is written in <br />reports, media &amp; cyberspace to know what's \"truly\" best for<br />their children and hence may get sucked into believing what <br />they think the \"system\" stands for.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/727692</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/727692</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[buds]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:20:57 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Outrage over kindergarten&#x27;s &#x27;tuition&#x27; classes on Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:15:59 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Swinging back to thread topic.. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><br /><br /><br />There is no cause for outrage in this case. The report has stated that the issue has spiraled to this due to the misinformation indicated in the circular. As many have determined, the term tuition is used for children with weak foundation of concepts and NEED help... and the term enrichment is well... to enrich the already rich and strong in concepts. ie. foundation more or less quite solid already.<br /><br />Some sharings..<br /><br />PAP kindergartens are priced for the masses. For the people who do believe in early education and may not be able to afford pricey private centres. For some parents, it can also be the sole reason of proximity due to alternative caregiving reasons since they have to work. Older people cannot walk too far to send children for daily classes or helpers are not encouraged to travel too far with young children in tow. Many different scenarios. It does not mean that being priced for the masses that they lack in quality and quantity of resources. PAP has evolved with the times within the industry and i personally know of some strong hands within the industry who care to be there to  make the difference. Because different centres vary in what they offer and the (sufficient) manpower to ensure they CAN deliver what they offered, the quality varies. Every human-reliant industry depends on the individual person's capacity to execute the tasks. <br /><br />Some centres are equipped with Phonics trained teachers and they ship in materials from overseas to facilitate this with the budget they are given. The head of the centre usually is (or ideally should also be) one who is trained in the same so she has the wisdom to trouble shoot in the event of teachers going on leave or resigning and being able to explain to parents the nature of these sessions offered. As these sessions are to be incorporated within curriculum time in some centres, the kindergarten sessions may be longer and the fees may be higher to justify the extra time taken and also the expertise of the trained teachers within the centre.<br /><br />In some other centres who may not have these \"enrichment\" programmes within the curriculum, they gradually upgrade their staff to attend external sessions so they can also include these extras into the curriculum. However, because they started out the kindergarten as certain set hours.. it is quite daunting to change the whole timetable to include these extras with extra curriculum time for all three sessions throughout the day. So they offer such extras as add-ons at relatively affordable fees for the neighbourhood children and families.<br /><br />There may also be centres who totally outsource to a trained person/company to teach the children at all levels maybe because they lack manpower or professionally trained staff to run the programmes.<br /><br />Next... different centres may prefer to adopt different methodologies. While some centres prefer to teach using the Jolly Phonics way... some others like the Letterland ways for their fun songs and stories... (etc). There are many many different and very interesting methodologies and resources to capture the early interest of our evolving young children who are becoming smarter by the day to stimuli from home care and environment plus intelligent interactions with older family members throughout the hours they are not engaged in school.<br /><br />The centre in mention (in the report) may have miscommunicated their intentions and yes while extras (enrichment) are offered, there should always be an opt-out option for those who do not need them. <br /><br />Regular/standard textbook curriculum/lessons are in place in all centres and apart from the regular daily thematic lessons and projects... the rest are really extras. Teachers while now are better paid than before, are still handling big class size.. some with two teachers and some others just go solo. Teaching children especially the young ones isn't just about pumping in the academics. Academics is always but only one of the many many things children learn in their growing years. There are soft skills, values, fine and gross motor to look into while we nurture our future leaders into a whole person.<br /><br />All the whack from parents who do not fully understand the ground can result in misunderstanding the whys and the how comes of this situation that had caused a supposed outrage. Centres do teach. The teaching quality however... varies. As with all other industries apart from teaching... quality varies btwn people within the same office/company/industry. Hence the disparity about who is and who is not being prepared for P1 education. So, in my opinion... there is actually a lack of clear information of what goes on behind the scenes (report).</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/727690</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/727690</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[buds]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:15:59 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Outrage over kindergarten&#x27;s &#x27;tuition&#x27; classes on Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:14:36 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I wonder who is taking the lead now.<br /><br /><br />Is tuition centre trying to catch up with school or school trying to catch up with tuition centre.</p>
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