<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[WTA : Pregnant Maid]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>What happens when a maid gets pregnant?<br /><br /><br />A pregnant maid decided to terminate her contract (think almost completed anyway).   Knew she is pregnant in Mar and she is asking to leave SG in Jun.    However, she told her employer that she is returning home due to family issues.....didn't confess on her pregnancy.    What are the implications?<br /><br />I happen to find out this through another maid......now scratching my head whether to kapo &amp; tell the employer (not someone close).   If there is no issue, perhaps it's better for me to just mind my own business??   Dun even know how true this is....... <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f937.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--shrug" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":shrug:" alt="🤷" /> <br /><br />Anyone can advise?   If the pregnant maid is canceling her work permit, should have no issue right?</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/34432/wta-pregnant-maid</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2026 14:08:06 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/34432.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:07:13 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to WTA : Pregnant Maid on Thu, 19 Apr 2012 01:54:17 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Paste or draw a picture of a pregnant maid on the envelope :<br /><br /><br />\"Hint: Your $70000 may be at stake  :? \"</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/748400</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/748400</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Hard Truth]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 01:54:17 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to WTA : Pregnant Maid on Thu, 19 Apr 2012 00:27:23 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>LOLMum:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>BeContented:</b><p>[quote=\"znzyzyzx\"]But if it is landed, most of the time is the maid that bring the letters in woh, since it is not locked.<br /></p></blockquote></blockquote>No issue.  HDB :).  I'll put in envelope, seal &amp; address to 'house owner' <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f642.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--slightly_smiling_face" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":)" alt="🙂" /><p></p></blockquote><br />Oh no, whenever I see \"house owner\" etc with no address, I would just throw away thinking it is housing agents etc.[/quote]Me too!<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/748332</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/748332</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[nms1]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 00:27:23 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to WTA : Pregnant Maid on Thu, 19 Apr 2012 00:24:29 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>BeContented:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>znzyzyzx:</b><p>But if it is landed, most of the time is the maid that bring the letters in woh, since it is not locked.<br /></p></blockquote></blockquote>No issue.  HDB :).  I'll put in envelope, seal &amp; address to 'house owner' <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f642.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--slightly_smiling_face" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":)" alt="🙂" /><p></p></blockquote><br />Oh no, whenever I see \"house owner\" etc with no address, I would just throw away thinking it is housing agents etc.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/748330</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/748330</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[LOLMum]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 00:24:29 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to WTA : Pregnant Maid on Thu, 19 Apr 2012 00:19:08 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>phtthp:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>hquek:</b><p> written ALL medical bills to be borne by employer.</p></blockquote></blockquote><br />Then Is definitely High time and JUSTICE to change this clause to <span style="\&quot;color:">protect employers</span>! <br />How can everything just conveniently push to employers, like a rubbish trash dumping ground ? Maids no need to bear any personal behavior responsbility over how she herself get pregnant in the first case ? including anyhow sleep around with men loosely outside - also need to push this entire responsibility to employers to deal with ? So ridiculous !<br /><br />Medical bills to be borne by employer like maid fall sick, fever, flu, cold - these are acceptable. We understand.  <br /><br />But <span style="\&quot;color:">NOT</span> hospitalization bills related to maid's abortion nor maid's PREGNANCY as a result of she anyhow sleep around with men outside and get herself into trouble. eg:  $70, 000. Employers should not be held accountable for maid's personal private life affairs. <br /><br />Hospitals should be prepared to write off these type of bills as Bad debt in their accounts.<p></p></blockquote>I think the example of $70k is very unlikely to happen as that must have been the case of a very early premature birth. Given that our maids have a 6 monthly medical, they should never be able to be more than 6 months pregnant undetected so, in most cases, the maximum bill you would be exposed for would be in the case of a miscarriage.<br /><br />The toughest, and more likely scenario, for employers is where they (or even the maid) don't find out she is pregnant until the medical and the maid has to be send home immediately - that would be my bigger fear as it would leave me totally in the lurch. I was lucky to find out and have around 6 weeks to find a replacement.<br /><br />I think to say that they are \"sleeping around\" is a bit unfair. Some of them have a boyfriend, a steady boyfriend like a lot of Singaporeans and they just make a mistake, like a lot of Singaporeans. Let's not brand them all as \"loose women\".<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/748325</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/748325</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[nms1]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 00:19:08 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to WTA : Pregnant Maid on Wed, 18 Apr 2012 23:44:05 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>hquek:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"> written ALL medical bills to be borne by employer.</blockquote></blockquote><br />Then Is definitely High time and JUSTICE to change this clause to <span style="\&quot;color:">protect employers</span>! <br />How can everything just conveniently push to employers, like a rubbish trash dumping ground ? Maids no need to bear any personal behavior responsbility over how she herself get pregnant in the first case ? including anyhow sleep around with men loosely outside - also need to push this entire responsibility to employers to deal with ? So ridiculous !<br /><br />Medical bills to be borne by employer like maid fall sick, fever, flu, cold - these are acceptable. We understand.  <br /><br />But <span style="\&quot;color:">NOT</span> hospitalization bills related to maid's abortion nor maid's PREGNANCY as a result of she anyhow sleep around with men outside and get herself into trouble. eg:  $70, 000. Employers should not be held accountable for maid's personal private life affairs. <br /><br />Hospitals should be prepared to write off these type of bills as Bad debt in their accounts.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/748314</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/748314</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[phtthp]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 23:44:05 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to WTA : Pregnant Maid on Wed, 18 Apr 2012 11:22:53 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I agree it seems unfair that the employer had to bear. But remember, when we engage the maid, it is written ALL medical bills to be borne by employer. That was why the hospital went after that employer even though it was another maid who signed for the pregnant one to be admitted. But that is only one case and it is extra ordinary. <br /><br /><br />Then again, I can’t afford such extraordinary expenses also. Me and kids will have to eat soya sauce rice for a very long time.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/748157</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/748157</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[hquek]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 11:22:53 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to WTA : Pregnant Maid on Wed, 18 Apr 2012 08:16:08 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>znzyzyzx:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">But if it is landed, most of the time is the maid that bring the letters in woh, since it is not locked.<br /></blockquote></blockquote>No issue.  HDB :).  I'll put in envelope, seal &amp; address to 'house owner' <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f642.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--slightly_smiling_face" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":)" alt="🙂" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/748076</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/748076</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[BeContented]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 08:16:08 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to WTA : Pregnant Maid on Wed, 18 Apr 2012 08:04:34 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>But if it is landed, most of the time is the maid that bring the letters in woh, since it is not locked.<br /><br /></p><blockquote><b>BeContented:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>Hard Truth:</b><p>[quote=\"BeContented\"]I also thot best to send back ASAP.   夜长梦多, the longer delay, the more trouble.   But frankly, I dun like that couple &amp; wonder if they will end up accuse me of being kapo.   Sigh.<br /><br />You know, some people are just nastier.....wait tell them about their maid and then they have issues &amp; turn around and scold me.....I will be mad.    :scratchhead:</p></blockquote></blockquote>You sound like a nice neighbour. Wish I have one like you.<br /><br />What about dropping a note in the letterbox;<br /><br />\"You may want to check if your maid is in the family way\" <br /><br />signed <br />\"A friendly but scared to be scolded neighbour\" or something like that ??<p></p></blockquote>Oh yah hor, never thot of this method ;).  Then I can stay anonymous &amp; hopefully help.   Thanks[/quote]<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/748065</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/748065</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[znzyzyzx]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 08:04:34 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to WTA : Pregnant Maid on Wed, 18 Apr 2012 07:15:18 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I also agree…quite unfair to ask employer to foot the bills.  <br /><br />Maids of earlier times are much better…I was lucky my first 3 are quite honest &amp; proper.       Now, I really hope I will not ever have to hire again.   <br /><br />Thanks all for your inputs.    I will try to warn the employer about their pregnant maid.  That’s all I can do.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/748041</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/748041</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[BeContented]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 07:15:18 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to WTA : Pregnant Maid on Wed, 18 Apr 2012 07:10:03 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Hard Truth:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>BeContented:</b><p>I also thot best to send back ASAP.   夜长梦多, the longer delay, the more trouble.   But frankly, I dun like that couple &amp; wonder if they will end up accuse me of being kapo.   Sigh.<br /><br /><br />You know, some people are just nastier.....wait tell them about their maid and then they have issues &amp; turn around and scold me.....I will be mad.    :scratchhead:</p></blockquote></blockquote>You sound like a nice neighbour. Wish I have one like you.<br /><br />What about dropping a note in the letterbox;<br /><br />\"You may want to check if your maid is in the family way\" <br /><br />signed <br />\"A friendly but scared to be scolded neighbour\" or something like that ??<p></p></blockquote>Oh yah hor, never thot of this method ;).  Then I can stay anonymous &amp; hopefully help.   Thanks<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/748039</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/748039</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[BeContented]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 07:10:03 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to WTA : Pregnant Maid on Wed, 18 Apr 2012 07:07:56 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>znzyzyzx:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>hquek:</b><p>As long as the maid dun give birth in SG, it's fine. even if she is noticeably pregnant when she leave SG, no issue. <br /><br /><br />But if she goes to hospital for any issue (miscarriage, premature birth), the employer will bear the medical bills. I recall one case where the employer owed KKH about $70K for pre-mature birth (plus NICU charges etc) - this happened some years back. And this though the maid hid the truth from her employer, and another maid signed in as guarantor for the pregnant maid (ie employer didn't even know until hospital called her).</p></blockquote></blockquote>Actually i dont understand the logic of employer havng to foot the bill. If anything happen to us, our employer dont food the bill what ???<p></p></blockquote><br />Maybe our MP can tell us leh?<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/748037</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/748037</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Hard Truth]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 07:07:56 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to WTA : Pregnant Maid on Wed, 18 Apr 2012 05:41:26 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>hquek:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">As long as the maid dun give birth in SG, it's fine. even if she is noticeably pregnant when she leave SG, no issue. <br /><br /><br />But if she goes to hospital for any issue (miscarriage, premature birth), the employer will bear the medical bills. I recall one case where the employer owed KKH about $70K for pre-mature birth (plus NICU charges etc) - this happened some years back. And this though the maid hid the truth from her employer, and another maid signed in as guarantor for the pregnant maid (ie employer didn't even know until hospital called her).</blockquote></blockquote>Actually i dont understand the logic of employer havng to foot the bill. If anything happen to us, our employer dont food the bill what ???<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/747981</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/747981</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[znzyzyzx]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 05:41:26 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to WTA : Pregnant Maid on Wed, 18 Apr 2012 05:38:42 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">why must the employer be held responsible to pay for $70k ? Has nothing to do with employer. Who ask the maid to get herself pregnant in the first case ? Even if is maid’s off day, employer won’t know who maid goes out with, nor bother which men the maid sleep around with outside. Just let the hospital write it off as bad debt in their accounts!</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/747978</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/747978</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[phtthp]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 05:38:42 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to WTA : Pregnant Maid on Wed, 18 Apr 2012 05:22:19 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I guess to each his own. To some the biggest hassle is not the report to MOM. It is the $70K that one has to face! The air fare is really peanuts compared to the $70K</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/747963</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/747963</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Hard Truth]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 05:22:19 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to WTA : Pregnant Maid on Wed, 18 Apr 2012 04:22:49 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">The biggest risk to the employer is if there are any complications.<br /><br /><br />My previous maid got pregnant; luckily we suspected that something was wrong and she came clean when I asked her. Fortunately for us she still had around a month until her medical was due so she stayed until we hired her replacement so that she could train her.<br /><br />I didn’t really think much about the medical cost at the time. My view was that she had made a mistake, which we all do, and there was no point in me punishing her for it by sending her home immediately while at the same time making my life difficult.<br /><br />Her boyfriend offered to pay for the ticket but I suspect that she ended up paying for it in the end so I just stayed out of it. I would have paid it for her as she had been a great maid and I knew that she had a tough time ahead of her.<br /><br />There is no real need to report to MOM as you just create hassle for yourself. As long as she isn’t due for a medical she can stay for a while until things are sorted then go home.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/747921</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/747921</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[nms1]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 04:22:49 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to WTA : Pregnant Maid on Tue, 17 Apr 2012 09:26:34 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">only 1 case so far lah. I’m not sure if they (KKH) ended up waiving the charges or what. <br /><br /><br />Anyway, my friends ever kena maid who got preggy and then went for abortion. Once they found out, it was bye bye time.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/747478</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/747478</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[hquek]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 09:26:34 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to WTA : Pregnant Maid on Tue, 17 Apr 2012 09:25:16 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>hquek:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">As long as the maid dun give birth in SG, it's fine. even if she is noticeably pregnant when she leave SG, no issue. <br /><br /><br />But if she goes to hospital for any issue (miscarriage, premature birth), the employer will bear the medical bills. I recall one case where the employer owed KKH about $70K for pre-mature birth (plus NICU charges etc) - this happened some years back. And this though the maid hid the truth from her employer, and another maid signed in as guarantor for the pregnant maid (ie employer didn't even know until hospital called her).</blockquote></blockquote> :yikes:  $70K......Better to send off the maid ASAP, you won't know what will happen.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/747476</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/747476</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[niza6666.028774hotmail.028774com]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 09:25:16 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to WTA : Pregnant Maid on Tue, 17 Apr 2012 09:18:09 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">As long as the maid dun give birth in SG, it’s fine. even if she is noticeably pregnant when she leave SG, no issue. <br /><br /><br />But if she goes to hospital for any issue (miscarriage, premature birth), the employer will bear the medical bills. I recall one case where the employer owed KKH about $70K for pre-mature birth (plus NICU charges etc) - this happened some years back. And this though the maid hid the truth from her employer, and another maid signed in as guarantor for the pregnant maid (ie employer didn’t even know until hospital called her).</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/747470</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/747470</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[hquek]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 09:18:09 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to WTA : Pregnant Maid on Tue, 17 Apr 2012 08:00:21 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>BeContented:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">I also thot best to send back ASAP.   夜长梦多, the longer delay, the more trouble.   But frankly, I dun like that couple &amp; wonder if they will end up accuse me of being kapo.   Sigh.<br /><br /><br />You know, some people are just nastier.....wait tell them about their maid and then they have issues &amp; turn around and scold me.....I will be mad.    :scratchhead:</blockquote></blockquote>You sound like a nice neighbour. Wish I have one like you.<br /><br />What about dropping a note in the letterbox;<br /><br />\"You may want to check if your maid is in the family way\" <br /><br />signed <br />\"A friendly but scared to be scolded neighbour\" or something like that ??<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/747436</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/747436</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Hard Truth]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 08:00:21 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to WTA : Pregnant Maid on Tue, 17 Apr 2012 04:13:15 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I also thot best to send back ASAP.   夜长梦多, the longer delay, the more trouble.   But frankly, I dun like that couple &amp; wonder if they will end up accuse me of being kapo.   Sigh.<br /><br /><br />You know, some people are just nastier.....wait tell them about their maid and then they have issues &amp; turn around and scold me.....I will be mad.    :scratchhead:</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/747275</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/747275</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[BeContented]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 04:13:15 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to WTA : Pregnant Maid on Tue, 17 Apr 2012 04:03:30 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I think it’s better just to send her back ASAP and pretend not to know anything.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/747270</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/747270</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[peapot]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 04:03:30 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to WTA : Pregnant Maid on Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:04:16 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">for the employer, best thing is to send her back asap. is big loss if she has miscarriage in SG or got persuaded by people to abort the baby. they have contacts and i think each abortion is about sdg200+</p>
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