<![CDATA[Indonesia domestic worker (FDW)]]>Indonesia FDWs have been quite problematic lately.

:nailbite: 1) in a short 5 months, 2012 already recorded 9 fell while 'working'. They should be trained by agencies and training centres but fault on employers if they performed task unsafe or employers failed to remind/supervise them. Sound weird that agencies, training centres, HDB and MOM completely out of picture. Fair?

😓 2) demand S$450 (exclude live-in costs. In total, to hire a FDW cost $1300 to 1600/month, will be more cos heard agency fee may become 4 digit) as starting pay, don't need to clean windows, hang dangerous bamboo laundry = lesser chores, employers end up doing for them. Their English not as good as filipino, mostly eat halal food, requires certain level of understanding from employers but want to be paid more, sounds reasonable?

:yikes: 3) Stricter rules to bring in Indonesian maids
By Saifulbahri Ismail, 30 May 2012 Channel News Asia

Maid agencies in Singapore will now have to apply online for employment contracts for Indonesian foreign domestic workers with the country's embassy.

The change takes effect on Wednesday.
The new online system will help the embassy compile data and track the domestic workers from the time they leave Indonesia for Singapore.

The Indonesian embassy held a briefing for employment agencies on Wednesday to explain the changes.

In the past, the embassy said it does not have full information of all its domestic workers in Singapore.

This is because the data was just shared between employment agencies in Indonesia and Singapore.

Now, both Indonesia and Singapore employment agencies must key in the necessary data into the online system.

The embassy said having such information will help it safeguard the welfare of its citizens.

Sukmo Yuwono, counsellor, Indonesian Embassy in Singapore, said: \"Based on all that data, I'm very confident it will give protection in the beginning when the Indonesian domestic helper has problems in Singapore.

\"Because if I have a call from the police, for example, if I don't have any data, I have to find out by myself. I need to search through Indonesia, search all the agencies... but if they are already keyed in to our system, I will just find out from the system.\"

Employment agencies said the online process may be more tedious.

This is because even after the online process, agencies have to print out the Employment Contract and submit it to the embassy for endorsement. Agencies then need to send the Employment Contract to their counterparts in Indonesia.

This new system is also expected to put a stop to the practice of some employers who hire maids directly from Indonesia.

K Jayaprema, president, Association of Employment Agencies, said: \"So we are looking at more business for the local employment agencies because it looks like only the accredited agencies with the Indonesian embassy will be able to download the employment contract.

\"So definitely employers have to go to a local agency to help them with this contract. And it's not going to just stop with new girls coming in, I think it's also for renewal, also for the transfer of girls.\"

The Indonesian government said it wants to stop sending domestic workers abroad as of 2017. It wants to provide comprehensive training so that workers are ready to enter more competitive industries. Stricter requirements may also be applied by 2017.

\"But it's something we have to wait and see how effective this is going to be because definitely, they see anybody working overseas as a better source of income. So unless they are able to earn equally good salaries, I don't think the ban is going to work,\" said K Jayaprema, president, Association of Employment Agencies.

The Indonesian government had previously imposed a moratorium on sending migrant workers to Saudi Arabia due to the implementation of the death penalty on a number of Indonesian workers there.

So troublesome to hire Indonesians, more money to come out from employer's pocket... do you think we should stop being easy targets ....to be bullied? Malaysia and Saudi paid lesser for FDWs and their living condition not as good as Spore .... are Spore employers too soft? How to make our govt protect us? :?:

Should we stay clear from hiring Indonesians... at least a year?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/36363/indonesia-domestic-worker-fdwRSS for NodeTue, 28 Apr 2026 09:42:16 GMTFri, 01 Jun 2012 08:14:39 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Indonesia domestic worker (FDW) on Fri, 14 Mar 2014 04:50:59 GMT]]>Lol. i think the poster is still wishing for the days where Indon agency fees only 100 plus or 200 plus… now a days already 1188.some even 1388 !!!

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1238751https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1238751Fri, 14 Mar 2014 04:50:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Indonesia domestic worker (FDW) on Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:18:11 GMT]]>

cvdsilva:

Where do i get a reliable and affordable domestic help?
😄 That's what we would all like to know too.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1238055https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1238055Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:18:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Indonesia domestic worker (FDW) on Thu, 13 Mar 2014 08:09:42 GMT]]>Hi I am a single parent with a 7 year old daughter and a visually handicapped 60 year old mother also living with me.

Am in the midst of purchasing flat with hdb after selling my matrimonial home.
I want to get domestic help to mainly assist me with
1. get daughter ready for school - send opp blk for school bus pick up
2. Thu - CCA class
3. over see aging mother lunch
4. basic household chores

Where do i get a reliable and affordable domestic help?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1237998https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1237998Thu, 13 Mar 2014 08:09:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Indonesia domestic worker (FDW) on Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:03:54 GMT]]>Under the MoU, which was signed earlier this year, prospective employers have to pay RM4,511 to bring in a maid from Indonesia.


This covers RM2,711 in fees paid to the agency and a RM1,800 advance payment that employers can recover in RM300 instalments from the maid's salary over six months.

domestic workers here in December last year were being paid a monthly salary of RM808, including overtime pay for working on Sundays.


Q: Which country paid the most for inexperience FDWs?
Ans: Singapore

Which country forced employers pay levy, indirectly eating the FDW's pay?
Ans: Singapore

Which country forced employers pay repatriation costs even though they are not at fault?
Ans: Singapore

Which country has the most blinded FDWs' support group/organisation/protectors?
Ans: Singapore

Which country offers good welfare, high salary, weekly off, a perfect stepping stone at the expense of employers?
Ans: Singapore

Which country is most 'inhuman' to fdw-employers?
Ans: Singapore
(in others eyes, we're ATM machines, no feeling, no matter how much we're hurt, we are supposed to be bullet-proof or act cold-blooded)


The Star/Asia News Network
Wednesday, Nov 07, 2012
PUTRAJAYA - Malaysians can expect to pay more for maids from Indonesia soon.

Human Resources Minister Datuk Seri Dr S. Subramaniam said agencies on both sides had been complaining of the cost of maids in Malaysia being lower than in other countries in the region.

\"The agencies said the cost (as outlined) under the MoU (between Malaysia and Indonesia on domestic workers) is too low for them (to make a profit).

\"So we have asked them to discuss the matter and tell us what (they think) is the realistic cost,\" he told reporters after launching the 17th Labour Department's Training Institute's convocation here yesterday.

Dr Subramaniam said agency representatives from both sides were expected to meet the Malaysia-Indonesia Joint Committee to discuss the proposed increase in cost.

\"We don't know (by how much it will increase). Let them propose (the new rates) first...but in the market, there are those who are paying RM12,000, RM13,000 (to bring in a maid) so we hope it will not be that high.

\"Maybe we will meet them halfway. We will probably agree to a reasonable increase,\" he added.

Under the MoU, which was signed earlier this year, prospective employers have to pay RM4,511 to bring in a maid from Indonesia.

This covers RM2,711 in fees paid to the agency and a RM1,800 advance payment that employers can recover in RM300 instalments from the maid's salary over six months.

Dr Subramaniam said agencies in Indonesia preferred to send maids to Singapore, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Japan and countries in the Middle East to get higher profits for them and better salaries for the maids.

He said the few maids who had come to Malaysia after Indonesia lifted its ban on sending domestic workers here in December last year were being paid a monthly salary of RM808, including overtime pay for working on Sundays.

On the flyers distributed in Kuala Lumpur advertising Indonesian maids \"for sale\" recently, Dr Subramaniam said the police had identified several people believed to be involved in the incident.

He said the police had traced the advertisement back to an address where copies of the flyers were found.

\"Several police reports have already been made and the police have a few names who they believe are related to this issue,\" he added.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/894720https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/894720Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:03:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Indonesia domestic worker (FDW) on Mon, 30 Jul 2012 02:12:41 GMT]]>

Y.hong:
Aiyo, I was having the same idea as urs when I replace her with the first. She is 31yo (olderst I can find) have a 8y.o kid and tot to have financial problem tts y she came here. In the end the same thing.


And she does like u said too! When our rice is used up and she diam diam and won't tell us. She did this on purpose to hope for a chance to eat outside. And once I realise the toilet was dirty and asked her y. Then she ans me the toilet washing agent was used up.

Really sick of living with these kinda ppl with dishonesty and laze. Wanted to change her but it will take lots of trouble time and money... Just wish my daughter can grow up soon... Haha
Primary 2 is big enough. Considering sending her to before/after school care.
The $$$ spent on maid is not really the issue. The most annoying is their mood swings.
It's a tough transition to go maidless, but the mental release may be worth the effort. :celebrate:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/808436https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/808436Mon, 30 Jul 2012 02:12:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Indonesia domestic worker (FDW) on Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:34:51 GMT]]>A 32-year-old Indonesian maid fell to her death from the 14th floor of her employer’s home at Block 63 Marine Drive in the early hours of Wednesday morning.


According to The Straits Times, the maid – who goes by the name Ami – was found at the foot of the block and was pronounced dead at the scene.

Indonesian embassy councellor Sukmo Yuwono said that he would like the Ministry of Manpower (MOM) and the police to investigate how the West Javanese maid fell to her death.

He added that Ami had only just started working in her employer’s home on 9 July after arriving in Singapore earlier this month.

What happen to the 400 hrs training given at source country and the SIP that MOM imposed? That maid sleeping in class? Didn't bring a functioning brain to Spore?

How can such death take place when safety training ALREADY given? IT SHOULD BE CLEAR TO ALL FDWS THAT SAFETY IS IN THEIR HANDS. Nobody has time to babysit FDWs 24/7. Employers have own lives and jobs to do. Think employers so free to act as eagles 24/7?

A LIFE LOST MEANS GONE, NO RETURN! 😓
What these people paid to do? Get themselves killed to claim insurance money, bring headaches to the unlucky employer & family? Not here to carry out domestic chores correctly, don't come!! YOU ARE NOT WELCOME!!

I hope MOM ban Indonesia as source country... at least be fair to employers, let everything be cleared (their motives investigated), get their FDWs fully trained in Spore before allowing work permits being processed. I prefer a proper training centre that teaches FDW what is safety, do simple cooking, how take care of children, how to clean window & house correctly, perform domestic chores as per Spore standard, how to use machines, explain the definition of maid loan, tell them what is hygienic, etc.

Do you think Indonesia plotting something evil? :yikes: If not why suddenly so many cases of Indonesians dropped dead?
Too many coincidences to believe FDWs are plain careless or employers didn't instil the meaning of safety.

good luck to new Indonesian employer .... :torchme:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/801511https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/801511Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:34:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Indonesia domestic worker (FDW) on Tue, 26 Jun 2012 04:17:02 GMT]]>Considered before, but it’s more expensive and still have to take care of her and do house chores when we got home after work. So the sum is not tt worth it.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/783595https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/783595Tue, 26 Jun 2012 04:17:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Indonesia domestic worker (FDW) on Tue, 26 Jun 2012 03:27:20 GMT]]>

Y.hong:
Aiyo, I was having the same idea as urs when I replace her with the first. She is 31yo (olderst I can find) have a 8y.o kid and tot to have financial problem tts y she came here. In the end the same thing.


And she does like u said too! When our rice is used up and she diam diam and won't tell us. She did this on purpose to hope for a chance to eat outside. And once I realise the toilet was dirty and asked her y. Then she ans me the toilet washing agent was used up.

Really sick of living with these kinda ppl with dishonesty and laze. Wanted to change her but it will take lots of trouble time and money... Just wish my daughter can grow up soon... Haha
Ha Ha exactly can die right! No more dont tell, so no need wash. I just relised last night, i have 7 packets of rock sugar in the cupboard pakced separately. 3 packet opened red beans - see they just dont bother to check, stacks and stacks, open and open.

Send yr daughter to infant/ childcare.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/783539https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/783539Tue, 26 Jun 2012 03:27:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Indonesia domestic worker (FDW) on Tue, 26 Jun 2012 03:04:02 GMT]]>Aiyo, I was having the same idea as urs when I replace her with the first. She is 31yo (olderst I can find) have a 8y.o kid and tot to have financial problem tts y she came here. In the end the same thing.


And she does like u said too! When our rice is used up and she diam diam and won’t tell us. She did this on purpose to hope for a chance to eat outside. And once I realise the toilet was dirty and asked her y. Then she ans me the toilet washing agent was used up.

Really sick of living with these kinda ppl with dishonesty and laze. Wanted to change her but it will take lots of trouble time and money… Just wish my daughter can grow up soon… Haha

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/783515https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/783515Tue, 26 Jun 2012 03:04:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Indonesia domestic worker (FDW) on Tue, 26 Jun 2012 02:09:49 GMT]]>

Y.hong:
verykiasu2010:

get evidence, confront her, send her to police station, inform MOM, she could be jailed if convicted by the court, or you can send her out on the next flight


be prepared to be without maid for a while, unless you have a new maid on standby


If there's a law tt states this action is a crime I will do so when I dun need her anymore. I wouldn't mind sending her to jail, break her rice bowl and makes sure tt she can nv come back to sg. Cos I feel like these ppl ( including my first maid) are here to get attached instead of doing her primary job well.

Oh ya, and share with u guys a joke. There was once she became such a desparado she even tot my hair wax was facial cream! I walked pass her and smelt my hair wax and saw her face being whitened. Haha I feel like buying itchy powder and make her fall into trap... Whr in sg can I buy such things?

Maybe should look for older maid........not single, best married with children. They will work harder for money and not so much care the look or going out making friends? Dont mess with them u hv 1 year old in her hand.

Some act blur, act stupid so they need not do so much. But deep inside can be very smart.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/783480https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/783480Tue, 26 Jun 2012 02:09:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Indonesia domestic worker (FDW) on Tue, 26 Jun 2012 02:04:20 GMT]]>

Y.hong:
I did tot of tt too, and I tot of giving in to her too. I suggested to my wife before to allow her to have a very basic facial cream but my wife says no. She said no maids have such privileges and agency only allow them to have body lotion and shampoo. Somemore now she steal our things and we still give in to her? Its her responsibility to speak up for herself about what she need and not us guessing about what she need.


Anw, she wouldn't know if I place the powder in MY OWN facial container. And if she use it and got it. She deserve it! Cos she shouldn't have use it in the first place!
I tried treating her well before, hoping she will treat my daughter better.. Buying her food, helping out in housework, letting her take nap in noon etc etc. But she just take things for granted and continue the same working attidude.

No point treat indo maid well. I think like u, treat her well thinking she will treat our kids well - but it never work, 1st, 2nd, 3rd maids all the same. They are still outsider, no matter what u do they will not appreciates. And i ever caught stealling things, she insisted is hers - maids forte is to lie and lie.

My cousin's maid steal mui mui bag, diamond ring. But no edvidence, when police came to the house for investigate she gives the smug look.......denied all the way.

Since both working and must have someone to take care 1 yr old, be gracious - bring her to the s.market let her choose what she need. and tell her wantever extra thing she need, we can get it for her but she must earn for it i.e. do a good job.

But again thinking that no one is at home she can do anything they want. Install cctv.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/783477https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/783477Tue, 26 Jun 2012 02:04:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Indonesia domestic worker (FDW) on Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:37:08 GMT]]>If she can steal facial cream, she can always go on to other things. Better get her to leave your house ASAP and find a replacement. Jmho

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/783395https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/783395Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:37:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Indonesia domestic worker (FDW) on Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:09:50 GMT]]>I did tot of tt too, and I tot of giving in to her too. I suggested to my wife before to allow her to have a very basic facial cream but my wife says no. She said no maids have such privileges and agency only allow them to have body lotion and shampoo. Somemore now she steal our things and we still give in to her? Its her responsibility to speak up for herself about what she need and not us guessing about what she need.


I tried treating her well before, hoping she will treat my daughter better… Buying her food, helping out in housework, letting her take nap in noon etc etc. But she just take things for granted and continue the same working attidude.

Anw, she wouldn’t know if I place the powder in MY OWN facial container. And if she use it and got it. She deserve it! Cos she shouldn’t have use it in the first place!

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/783379https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/783379Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:09:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Indonesia domestic worker (FDW) on Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:29:54 GMT]]>You need a maid to look after your child? Or you need a maid who endangers your child?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/783364https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/783364Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:29:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Indonesia domestic worker (FDW) on Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:52:03 GMT]]>

verykiasu2010:
get evidence, confront her, send her to police station, inform MOM, she could be jailed if convicted by the court, or you can send her out on the next flight


be prepared to be without maid for a while, unless you have a new maid on standby

If there's a law tt states this action is a crime I will do so when I dun need her anymore. I wouldn't mind sending her to jail, break her rice bowl and makes sure tt she can nv come back to sg. Cos I feel like these ppl ( including my first maid) are here to get attached instead of doing her primary job well.

Oh ya, and share with u guys a joke. There was once she became such a desparado she even tot my hair wax was facial cream! I walked pass her and smelt my hair wax and saw her face being whitened. Haha I feel like buying itchy powder and make her fall into trap... Whr in sg can I buy such things?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/783361https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/783361Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:52:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Indonesia domestic worker (FDW) on Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:35:23 GMT]]>get evidence, confront her, send her to police station, inform MOM, she could be jailed if convicted by the court, or you can send her out on the next flight


be prepared to be without maid for a while, unless you have a new maid on standby

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/783324https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/783324Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:35:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Indonesia domestic worker (FDW) on Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:11:42 GMT]]>Help help help! I’m having a stealing indon maid. Not in terms of money but all types of my family’s facial thingy. And even though it’s so obvious she won’t admit it. She just think tt we can’t do anything about it if she dun admits.


But Well she is right, me and my wife are both working and we need a maid to take care of our 1yr old daughter. And now we have to lock up all our facial cream when we dun use them. Damn inconvinent and fucking hate het for tt! We have to do so cos she is using my wife’s expensive facial cream tt can cause up to hundreds, and she is using it like free! Even if there are ppl at home, she will use it whenever there’s a chance.

Just dun und y she is so gan jiong about her skin and not her job. I started hating her cos I realise she care more bout herself thAn my daughter. There was once I even caught her letting my daughter play with a knife in order to keep her quit, what a fucking nuisience!

She is already the 2nd indon maid, first one has a lazy problem and likes stealing food. Does all indon maid happen to be like tt when no one is having an eye on them. Y can’t they just have a little bit of dignity?

I do not know is it an offense to use other’s item without authority, if yes I wouldn’t mind getting some proof and send her to police when I dun need her anymore somefay. If anyone fsce the same problem here, pls advice!

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/783308https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/783308Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:11:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Indonesia domestic worker (FDW) on Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:03:34 GMT]]>

peapot:
Untable money.

You're absolutely correct!

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/782969https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/782969Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:03:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Indonesia domestic worker (FDW) on Fri, 22 Jun 2012 09:57:35 GMT]]>Untable money.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/781925https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/781925Fri, 22 Jun 2012 09:57:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Indonesia domestic worker (FDW) on Fri, 22 Jun 2012 07:58:11 GMT]]>

Imp75:
anyone know more about the recent Indonesian Embassy where all FDW has to be registered with them even if renewal and only accredited agencies are allowed to register maids with them. What happens to employers who renew contract with maid without agency? How to register with the Indo EMbassy?

My maid rejected twice in Jkt after trying to return back Sin from Home Leave. First mentioned no contract by custom and we send it over and second time again unable to board plane not sure due to what reason. She has two p.port with her old and new, contract, KTKLN card.....anyone know what else she need?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/781864https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/781864Fri, 22 Jun 2012 07:58:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Indonesia domestic worker (FDW) on Fri, 22 Jun 2012 03:04:37 GMT]]>Jakarta policy riles maid agents in Singapore

Amelia Tan, Asia News Network (The Straits Times) | World | Mon, 06/18/2012 8:18 AM

Maid agents - unhappy with a new policy by the Indonesian government that bars agencies from earning commission from maids - hope to resolve the issue with the Indonesian Embassy here.

They want the president of the Association of Employment Agencies (Singapore) (AEAS), K. Jayaprema, to meet the embassy officials.

The agents said the officials should come out to say that Singapore agents could charge Indonesian maids commission and not face repercussions such as being blacklisted by the embassy.

If the embassy does not do this, the agents said they will have to pass on the cost of the commission, which generally ranges from 11/2 to two months of a maid's salary, to employers.

Employers will likely baulk at having to pay, say the agents, who added that they cannot absorb the fees as it will cause a huge dent in their profit margins.

An Indonesian maid earns about $450 a month.

Sukmo Yuwono, a counselor at the Indonesian Embassy here, said in response to queries from The Straits Times that Jakarta 'does not encourage' maid agencies here to charge the maids commission but is aware that it would be difficult to enforce Indonesian government regulations here.

He added: 'If the maid agencies in Singapore want to charge maids fees for their services, they must get the Indonesian recruiters and maids to agree to it.'

In a further sign of their unhappiness, about 40 maid agents have signed a letter requesting that the management committee of AEAS hold an extraordinary general meeting to discuss the association's stand on the issue.

Jayaprema responded in an e-mail last week that she will do so at a date to be confirmed.

The new guideline implemented by the Indonesian government on May 1 is part of broader changes introduced to bring down the costs incurred by maids when they look for a job overseas.

Under the previous system, Singapore agents could charge Indonesian maids placement fees to cover costs such as advice and housing before an employer is found - but they cannot do so now.

The agents said they are entitled to these fees as the Employment Agencies Act states that employment agencies in Singapore can charge the worker a fee not exceeding one month of the salary, for each year of the duration of the work pass or employment contract. The total amount they can charge must not exceed two months of the worker's salary.

Maids work on two-year contracts.

The rule changes have led to a slowdown in the supply of Indonesian maids and are raising frustration among agents.

Vine Employment Agency owner Yong W.P., who rallied other agents to request for the extraordinary general meeting, said: 'It is unfair not to get paid for our services. If the maid has problems, agents spend time counseling both her and her employer.'

Karl Tan, who owns Inter-Mares agency, said: 'We will have to pass on the cost to employers. And the increased costs will shock employers.'

A spokesman for the Ministry of Manpower noted that while source countries may choose to impose additional requirements, 'employers and employment agencies should assess whether they can fulfill these conditions when choosing which source country to bring workers from'.

There are now some 206,000 maids here and about half of them are from Indonesia.

What's the purpose of having Indonesia as main source country when their govt issued so many restriction for Sg employers?

The worse and most unacceptable is the recent deaths due to high rise cleaning. We really shouldn't take agencies that charge high agency fee (above $400 is high) and provide incompetent domestic helpers.

If Indonesians really made full use of the 400 training hrs to learn how to carry out tasks in Spore as qualified domestic workers and focus on safety, how could these death occur? You may have heard agencies taught them how to smuggle phones in when employers already said no mobile allowed during working hours.

You may not heard Indonesians are taught where to runaway. Last year, my neigbour had a Indo FDW who ran off in less than 24 hrs. The midnight taxi driver was so kind to drive her off for free. Haven't started work, just familarization already frightened her. She told employer via agency, job wasn't what she expected. So is this the fault of agency? Employer was forced to pay FDW levy and insurance for at least one month, as contract stated, work minimum 21 days (it is employer's problem if FDW released early - got to pay agency lodging), not forgetting the time wasted to get replacement.

What have our MOM done to that is fair to us? None.
If you're a facebook user, posted on MOM or PM Lee's FB, you'll notice some of your comments stubbornly refused to appear. It just showed our concerns are being pressed down, govt not keen to stand up for us.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/781684https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/781684Fri, 22 Jun 2012 03:04:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Indonesia domestic worker (FDW) on Tue, 05 Jun 2012 04:26:27 GMT]]>anyone know more about the recent Indonesian Embassy where all FDW has to be registered with them even if renewal and only accredited agencies are allowed to register maids with them. What happens to employers who renew contract with maid without agency? How to register with the Indo EMbassy?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/774240https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/774240Tue, 05 Jun 2012 04:26:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Indonesia domestic worker (FDW) on Tue, 05 Jun 2012 04:03:27 GMT]]>http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1205502/1/.html

MOM bans maids from cleaning window exteriors unless supervised
With immediate effect, maids will not be allowed to clean the window exteriors of high-rise HDB flats or apartments unless supervised.

The next ban will be can't use bamboo, stretch out body to hang wet laundry?? Employer paid more these days but end up got to do chores for FDWs. No more time to rest, after work must hang own laundry .... 可怜可悲的新加坡人!
雇主真好坑！！
政府人员与机构真好命 - 利益好处得来全不必付出代价
羊毛出在雇主身上

The various ministries are good at hitting singaporeans with penalities. Another good way to make govt rich. Even maid runaway, the security bond MOM forfeits is only s$2500 .... quoted from MOM. Really not too much in govt eyes but a lot to us

If you've a better option, irregardless of nationalities, FDWs are not really a good choice. Hiring FDW is like donating money to govt, agencies, embasssies and training centres.... with Indonesians the top :moneyflies:

By MOM work permit, a FDW is your responsibility till the day she departs, 24/7, even she's with agency or shelter, your liability hasn't ended!! :stompfeet:

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verykiasu2010:
valvestate:

Then just simple don't get any Indonesian helper then... if the government will not hear us despite the constant bombarding over Facebook or email, then we can just start from ourselves. Look for other nationality! Filipinas are the best due to good English speaking skills... I wonder when will the Government allow mainland China women to work as helpers here?


the nationalities need to be approved by the Ministry of Maids

😓 🙏 we need more source countries ... up to Ministry of Maids to endorse and push agencies to recruit. :xedfingers:
Thailand is one of the source countries but I don't see many working as FDWs in Sg .... 🤷 They are Buddhist and seems like can 'click' with me ... main thing, I like Thai food :please:
Hard Truth:
It really would be nice if employers can collectively not take Indonesian Maids if the conditions for employing them is really ridiculous.

The authorities are of no help. They shy away (read the various posts here to find out their \"willingness\" to help) when there are issues to be resolved. The agents too take advantage of employers. The other related costs in hiring a maid too are ridiculous and instead of thinking what they can do, we have some employers speaking in defense of them!

Incidentally, Filipinas may have good English speaking skills but I am not sure that equates to them being the best.
:nunchuk:
:moneyflies:

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