<![CDATA[All About SAP Schools]]>My kid would probably be in a SAP school next year. We come from an english speaking family… Would love to hear from other parents’ experiences with regards to their kids dealing with higher chinese…

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xyun08\" post_id=\"2031530\" time=\"1627007915\" user_id=\"128943:

What’s the review of Pei Chun these days ? I see mixed reviews about the school these days .

Besides the higher Chinese and more exposure to Chinese culture , what’s the other benefits of SAP schools over non SAP ones ?
I am guessing you got in? And you are thinking whether to stay or go and try for 2C?

I have a relative in PCPS, this yr p6. No complaints when I see the family at CNY.

As for the 2nd question, I think besides the 2 points you have listed, there are no other significant differences between sap and non sap.

I would stay if I were you. And try to get a transfer to the 2a1 school. 😄

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2031552https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2031552Fri, 23 Jul 2021 06:25:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to All About SAP Schools on Fri, 23 Jul 2021 05:07:29 GMT]]>My girls have gone through SAP pri sec and now JC. Personally I feel that my level of chinese cultural knowledge/exposure/vocab/chengyu etc way surpasses them (i was from non-SAP). Not sure if its the results of syllabus watered down or the general teaching of Chinese cultures and values have lessened much more in the present non-sap schools. So SAP or non-SAP doesn’t appear any difference to me. They still speak English at home and at school and oh boi, my gal was so glad no more chinese class at JC.

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xyun08\" post_id=\"2031530\" time=\"1627007915\" user_id=\"128943:

What’s the review of Pei Chun these days ? I see mixed reviews about the school these days .

Besides the higher Chinese and more exposure to Chinese culture , what’s the other benefits of SAP schools over non SAP ones ?
If you are considering Pei Chun, it means you’re either:
- a member of the alumni association (in which case, you’d already know what SAP school culture is about)
- GRL in TPY area (in which case, ask around your PA kakis and they’d be able to tell you more about the school & students)
- potential 2C applicant living <1km (in which case, you’d go for balloting anyway. Otherwise your other options are probably Kheng Cheng, non-SAP but still steeped in Chinese culture I believe, or First TPY PS).

So I don’t think u have much choice anyway. Unless you hate Chinese culture or your child absolutely Jiak Kantang and unwilling to try.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2031542https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2031542Fri, 23 Jul 2021 04:45:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to All About SAP Schools on Fri, 23 Jul 2021 04:07:37 GMT]]>

xyun08\" post_id=\"2031530\" time=\"1627007915\" user_id=\"128943:

What’s the review of Pei Chun these days ? I see mixed reviews about the school these days .

Besides the higher Chinese and more exposure to Chinese culture , what’s the other benefits of SAP schools over non SAP ones ?
One man's meat is another man's poison. Mixed reviews are pretty much expected - it all depends on the individual's expectation. There isn't a school that's perfect for everyone.

Besides receiving a bilingual education and learning more about Chinese culture and values, resources are often better in SAP schools compared to non-SAP schools. SAP schools receive additional resources on top of the baseline average funding (for secondary schools, it's about $300 extra per student and you can expect somewhat similar for primary schools). How each school uses those extra resources is entirely up to them (no guarantee that they are being put to very good use 😆 ).

The Higher Chinese component (assuming the kid survives till P6) will provide an advantage if he / she is applying to SAP secondary schools under the new PSLE AL system.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2031540https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2031540Fri, 23 Jul 2021 04:07:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to All About SAP Schools on Fri, 23 Jul 2021 02:38:35 GMT]]>What’s the review of Pei Chun these days ? I see mixed reviews about the school these days .


Besides the higher Chinese and more exposure to Chinese culture , what’s the other benefits of SAP schools over non SAP ones ?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2031530https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2031530Fri, 23 Jul 2021 02:38:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to All About SAP Schools on Tue, 21 Jul 2020 05:26:17 GMT]]>

phtthp\" post_id=\"1986857\" time=\"1595301552\" user_id=\"35251:

both SAP schools are excellent

Catholic High offer two extra advantages

1) affliation to Secondary O-level program, via 240 (affliation Tscore),
2020 being the last exiting graduation batch.
In contrast, Kong Hwa doesn't have any affliation to Secondary school.

2) if you prefer a Catholic missionary school culture & values

choose the school that you stay nearby (close to), because helps a lot, saves time in distance travelling, up and down, to and fro both ways


Catholic High (offer affliation)
2019 PSLE batch

1)
IP Cut-off-point : 252
median : 255

2)
External, Non-affliation O-level Cut-off-point : 249
median : 251

3)
Affliation O-level Cut-off-point : 240
median : 244


Catholic High
https://sis.moe.gov.sg/SchoolDetails.aspx?schoolCode=7102

Kong Hwa (no affliation, to Secondary)
https://sis.moe.gov.sg/SchoolDetails.aspx?schoolCode=5168
Love your points! Yes sch within walking distance is the very best ♥️

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1986893https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1986893Tue, 21 Jul 2020 05:26:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to All About SAP Schools on Tue, 21 Jul 2020 03:19:12 GMT]]>both SAP schools are excellent


Catholic High offer two extra advantages

1) affliation to Secondary O-level program, via 240 (affliation Tscore),
2020 being the last exiting graduation batch.
In contrast, Kong Hwa doesn't have any affliation to Secondary school.

2) if you prefer a Catholic missionary school culture & values

choose the school that you stay nearby (close to), because helps a lot, saves time in distance travelling, up and down, to and fro both ways


Catholic High (offer affliation)
2019 PSLE batch

1)
IP Cut-off-point : 252
median : 255

2)
External, Non-affliation O-level Cut-off-point : 249
median : 251

3)
Affliation O-level Cut-off-point : 240
median : 244
see, median 244 is pretty high, for those boys from CHS primary school section, able to come back for their O-level (affliation).


Catholic High
https://sis.moe.gov.sg/SchoolDetails.aspx?schoolCode=7102

Kong Hwa (no affliation, to Secondary)
https://sis.moe.gov.sg/SchoolDetails.aspx?schoolCode=5168

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1986857https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1986857Tue, 21 Jul 2020 03:19:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to All About SAP Schools on Tue, 21 Jul 2020 02:41:16 GMT]]>If we have a choice between Kong Hwa and Catholic high.. for boys.. which environment would be better?


I read that Catholic high provides a very happy school environment for boys. 😉

I think I will be quite chill with studies.. hub said that Kong hwa pushes more on academic. Hmmm

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floppy\" post_id=\"1933219\" time=\"1567418675\" user_id=\"97579:

Of cos, there are ways.

There’s the Phase 1 way, the Phase 2A1 way, the Phase 2A2 way...

New citizens can choose any of that (but need to marry the right old citizens) or the Phase 2B or Phase 2C way. Don’t tell people ok? These are the secret ways that only people in the know, know 😉
嫩

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PoopyBear\" post_id=\"1933217\" time=\"1567418206\" user_id=\"123423:

floppy\" post_id=\"1932116\" time=\"1567043714\" user_id=\"97579:

[quote=firstda post_id=1932098 time=1567039709 user_id=161495]...
There will be many new citizens that are from mainland China that will shine in the Chinese Lesson.

I think it’s hard to come to that conclusion. In most cases, it’s more like the reverse. Very few new citizens to be found in the SAP schools.

Majority of the SAP schools are extremely popular, ie they are left with 20-30 seats for both Phase 2B and 2C. It’s not easy to get in unless you are a former student or had married a former student (therefore, not so-new citizen). While some new citizen do get in via Phase 2B or 2C, they are hardly considered to be “many”.

Floppy, there are ways.[/quote]Of cos, there are ways.

There’s the Phase 1 way, the Phase 2A1 way, the Phase 2A2 way...

New citizens can choose any of that (but need to marry the right old citizens) or the Phase 2B or Phase 2C way. Don’t tell people ok? These are the secret ways that only people in the know, know 😉

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floppy\" post_id=\"1932116\" time=\"1567043714\" user_id=\"97579:

firstda\" post_id=\"1932098\" time=\"1567039709\" user_id=\"161495:

...
There will be many new citizens that are from mainland China that will shine in the Chinese Lesson.

I think it’s hard to come to that conclusion. In most cases, it’s more like the reverse. Very few new citizens to be found in the SAP schools.

Majority of the SAP schools are extremely popular, ie they are left with 20-30 seats for both Phase 2B and 2C. It’s not easy to get in unless you are a former student or had married a former student (therefore, not so-new citizen). While some new citizen do get in via Phase 2B or 2C, they are hardly considered to be “many”.

Floppy, there are ways.

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firstda\" post_id=\"1932098\" time=\"1567039709\" user_id=\"161495:

...
There will be many new citizens that are from mainland China that will shine in the Chinese Lesson.
I think it’s hard to come to that conclusion. In most cases, it’s more like the reverse. Very few new citizens to be found in the SAP schools.

Majority of the SAP schools are extremely popular, ie they are left with 20-30 seats for both Phase 2B and 2C. It’s not easy to get in unless you are a former student or had married a former student (therefore, not so-new citizen). While some new citizen do get in via Phase 2B or 2C, they are hardly considered to be “many”.

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manorway\" post_id=\"1932096\" time=\"1567039084\" user_id=\"9303:

What is the main difference between the day to day learning between SAP Primary and non-SAP schools?

Do you think going to a SAP sch will help raise a child’s chinese Standard?
The main different is higher Chinese is compulsory from Primary 1 to 4 in SAP school. SAP school is more rich in Chinese culture and more Chinese CCA. Students that don't like Chinese or weak in Chinese will not get better going to SAP instead they will struggle. There will be many new citizens that are from mainland China that will shine in the Chinese Lesson.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1932098https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1932098Thu, 29 Aug 2019 00:48:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to All About SAP Schools on Thu, 29 Aug 2019 00:38:04 GMT]]>What is the main difference between the day to day learning between SAP Primary and non-SAP schools?


Do you think going to a SAP sch will help raise a child’s chinese Standard?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1932096https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1932096Thu, 29 Aug 2019 00:38:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to All About SAP Schools on Sun, 04 Aug 2019 06:35:14 GMT]]>

MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"1926401\" time=\"1564900405\" user_id=\"2964:

zac's mum\" post_id=\"1926399\" time=\"1564900212\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1926399 time=1564900212 user_id=53606]



No. Not even one is written in Chinese.

Example (this one is in both Chinese and English. I can’t remember which school I saw that was in Chinese only): https://taonan.moe.edu.sg/qql/slot/u182/pdf/parents/downloads/school_circulars/other_circulars/2019%20TNS%20Term%201%20Parents%27%20Notification_Collated.pdf

I was answering your question - is that true for all sap sch.
My answer - no, (it is not true for all sap sch, in our sch), not even one is written in chinese.[/quote]To add, if a letter is written in Chinese, it will be accompanied by one in English, such as the one in TNS. I don't think there will be a letter written exclusively in Chinese only.

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zac's mum\" post_id=\"1926399\" time=\"1564900212\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1926399 time=1564900212 user_id=53606]
MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"1926382\" time=\"1564897002\" user_id=\"2964:
[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1926352 time=1564890019 user_id=53606]I noticed that some SAP schools’ letters to the parents (especially Principal’s official letters) are written in Chinese only. Is that true for all SAP schools?
No. Not even one is written in Chinese.[/quote]
Example (this one is in both Chinese and English. I can’t remember which school I saw that was in Chinese only): https://taonan.moe.edu.sg/qql/slot/u182/pdf/parents/downloads/school_circulars/other_circulars/2019%20TNS%20Term%201%20Parents%27%20Notification_Collated.pdf[/quote]I was answering your question - is that true for all sap sch.
My answer - no, (it is not true for all sap sch, in our sch), not even one is written in chinese.

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MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"1926382\" time=\"1564897002\" user_id=\"2964:

zac's mum\" post_id=\"1926352\" time=\"1564890019\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1926352 time=1564890019 user_id=53606]I noticed that some SAP schools’ letters to the parents (especially Principal’s official letters) are written in Chinese only. Is that true for all SAP schools?
No. Not even one is written in Chinese.[/quote]
Example (this one is in both Chinese and English. I can’t remember which school I saw that was in Chinese only): https://taonan.moe.edu.sg/qql/slot/u182/pdf/parents/downloads/school_circulars/other_circulars/2019%20TNS%20Term%201%20Parents%27%20Notification_Collated.pdf

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zac's mum\" post_id=\"1926352\" time=\"1564890019\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1926352 time=1564890019 user_id=53606]
I noticed that some SAP schools’ letters to the parents (especially Principal’s official letters) are written in Chinese only. Is that true for all SAP schools?[/quote]
No. Not even one is written in Chinese.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1926382https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1926382Sun, 04 Aug 2019 05:36:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to All About SAP Schools on Sun, 04 Aug 2019 03:40:19 GMT]]>I noticed that some SAP schools’ letters to the parents (especially Principal’s official letters) are written in Chinese only. Is that true for all SAP schools?

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Imp75\" post_id=\"1926116\" time=\"1564750391\" user_id=\"2358:


For primary sch, it might be possible bc CL has 4 components (oral, listening, compo, paper 2) while HCL only has compo and paper 2, so someone lousy at thelangauge can memorise all the good essays or encyclopedia of vocabulary and model
Compre answers to ace HCL. Oral is 40% weightage in CL so if someone is weak and can’t articulate then it’s rather obvious.
Now that you mention it, I’m being reminded of a JC friend from the R school.
Her AO Chinese - A1, AO Chinese Oral - ungraded (it was either pass or ungraded)
😂

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rosenic8853\" post_id=\"1925701\" time=\"1564671072\" user_id=\"178547:

Not sure if should enrol SAP school as the teacher from SAP school told me that better not to register at SAP primary school if we don’t speak Chinese at home. Should I take up the advice and go for non SAP school?
I don't agree with the teacher. At P5, the CL teacher also told my elder one to give up HCL else will flung CL. Chinese not our main language at home, in fact all kinds of languages. Tuition is
costly. Free solution, let the kids watch toggle.

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Imp75\" post_id=\"1926116\" time=\"1564750391\" user_id=\"2358:

hethet\" post_id=\"1926111\" time=\"1564749756\" user_id=\"172534:

[quote=floppy post_id=1925765 time=1564707459 user_id=97579]

CL syllabus consists of:
1. 核心单元 and
2. 强化单元 or 校本单元 or 深广单元

HCL syllabus consist of:
1. HCL 核心单元 (which is made up of CL’s 核心单元 and 深广单元) and
2. HCL 校本单元 or HCL 深广单元

It’s different but the bulk of the syllabus are similarly. HCL will cover 20% to 30% more (in the same amount of time :yikes: ). While it’s possible that someone doing well in HCL could do badly at CL, I feel it’s quite unlikely.

Thanks for the explanation! I am also :yikes: when heard about do well in HCL do badly in CL.

For primary sch, it might be possible bc CL has 4 components (oral, listening, compo, paper 2) while HCL only has compo and paper 2, so someone lousy at thelangauge can memorise all the good essays or encyclopedia of vocabulary and model
Compre answers to ace HCL. Oral is 40% weightage in CL so if someone is weak and can’t articulate then it’s rather obvious.[/quote]Oh! Thanks for sharing! I have clearer view now.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1926135https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1926135Fri, 02 Aug 2019 13:53:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to All About SAP Schools on Fri, 02 Aug 2019 13:15:11 GMT]]>

zac's mum\" post_id=\"1925736\" time=\"1564697367\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1925736 time=1564697367 user_id=53606]
If you don’t speak Chinese at home (and cannot) then at the very minimum you will have to cough up money for 6 years of Chinese tuition.

The really rich non-Chinese families who have kids that speak read and write the language excellently? They hire a live-in Chinese nanny/governess.[/quote]
Obligatory post of the Rogers family’s Chinese Nanny:

https://mothership.sg/2017/12/expatriate-family-happy-jim-rogers-learn-chinese-cannot-afford/

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hethet\" post_id=\"1926111\" time=\"1564749756\" user_id=\"172534:

floppy\" post_id=\"1925765\" time=\"1564707459\" user_id=\"97579:

[quote=hethet post_id=1925759 time=1564706692 user_id=172534]sorry to ask a noob question.
How different it is for HCL vs CL in terms of syllabus? I have heard parents ever commented that even if you do well in HCL, does not mean you can do equally well in CL coz it's different.

CL syllabus consists of:
1. 核心单元 and
2. 强化单元 or 校本单元 or 深广单元

HCL syllabus consist of:
1. HCL 核心单元 (which is made up of CL’s 核心单元 and 深广单元) and
2. HCL 校本单元 or HCL 深广单元

It’s different but the bulk of the syllabus are similarly. HCL will cover 20% to 30% more (in the same amount of time :yikes: ). While it’s possible that someone doing well in HCL could do badly at CL, I feel it’s quite unlikely.

Thanks for the explanation! I am also :yikes: when heard about do well in HCL do badly in CL.[/quote]For primary sch, it might be possible bc CL has 4 components (oral, listening, compo, paper 2) while HCL only has compo and paper 2, so someone lousy at thelangauge can memorise all the good essays or encyclopedia of vocabulary and model
Compre answers to ace HCL. Oral is 40% weightage in CL so if someone is weak and can’t articulate then it’s rather obvious.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1926116https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1926116Fri, 02 Aug 2019 12:53:11 GMT