DesertWind:

In a nutshell, demand is greater than supply ie. vacancies in these hot, hot schools.


Please, please, MOE, take my suggestion seriously. Clone these schools into \"North, South, East and West\"! I can tell you if there is an ACS in JB and I am desperate for my kid to get in, I will even consider living across the causeway if it comes to that!

So why not help those schools mentioned in the alumni handbook a helping hand and ask them to run \"branches\" around the island? It surely will help the traffic jams in town and Bukit Timah as well as cater to the high demand.

Like those international schools, some of them too have branches spread out cover central, East and North.

For such \"clone\" schools, give alumni priorities as well so that alumni can go to the nearest branch around their home to cut down on travelling time. No need to heart-pain got to give up their priority due to sheer distance.

At the same time, with the new vacancies, there would be plenty of seats left for those staying around less than 1 km, 2 km as well.

Why not seriously consider?

DesertWind:

In a nutshell, demand is greater than supply ie. vacancies in these hot, hot schools.


Please, please, MOE, take my suggestion seriously. Clone these schools into \"North, South, East and West\"! I can tell you if there is an ACS in JB and I am desperate for my kid to get in, I will even consider living across the causeway if it comes to that!

So why not help those schools mentioned in the alumni handbook a helping hand and ask them to run \"branches\" around the island? It surely will help the traffic jams in town and Bukit Timah as well as cater to the high demand.

Like those international schools, some of them too have branches spread out cover central, East and North.

For such \"clone\" schools, give alumni priorities as well so that alumni can go to the nearest branch around their home to cut down on travelling time. No need to heart-pain got to give up their priority due to sheer distance.

At the same time, with the new vacancies, there would be plenty of seats left for those staying around less than 1 km, 2 km as well.

Why not seriously consider?

limlim:

ksi:

I was hoping you could figure out the lesson of \"饮水思源\" as the education part that MOE is trying to deliver to the kids when they encourage people to continue to serve as an alumni and even send their kids back to the school.

This handbook has provided a lot of good read to expand on this.

\"饮水思源\" as in contributing and serve, is fine.

But used as disguise to Hog the resource for their kids and deprive others from it, is distasteful.

Where do you find evidence of this? :?

Like I said, different pple have different considerations.
Some is practical, some is sentimental.

Agree with this general statement.

Why should one be given absolute priority over the others?

Already explained but you don't agree only....

Unless the govt can solve the traffic congestion issues and also provide reliable free transport to send kids to schools for those w/o car and cannot afford luxury of sch bus, they should relook at their policies.

Agree that traffic congestion is a problem but this assumes that alumni kids all go to school by car. It is an assumption.

By allowing alumni to hog the resources, they are causing great inconvenience to others.

Agree that anyone who hoards resources cause inconveniences to people. Check with your school, how many seats do alumni take?

Stand further away, look at the issue from another angle.

Who are those that support Alumni? those with vested interest, those with kids going to P1 soon. All self interest. Who supported it from an independent viewpoint?

Me?...... I have no more P1 school-going kids. I cannot speak for the rest and I don't monitor people's activities/background so closely here, bo eng la...uncle

NOW, look at those who support distance priority again. How many are not vested? Kids not going to P1 or already enrolled in a school. Quite a number I can easily find.

Conditionally agree, please make a list if you have the info.

Do you see the picture? What views are really offered with the consideration of in the best interest of the community and not self interest?

Yes I see. From what I know, most people will claim that they offer view for the best interest of the community, hardly people will admit it for self-interest because it is certainly less convincing with personal agenda.


Does having a sentimental based policy in the best interest of the community? I say not. The correct values can be taught in school, whichever schools.

Sentimental is what is felt by the alumni la uncle, not policy-makers. MOE teaches \"remember the source of water when you drink it\"

I feel P2B has more merit than sleeping alumni.

FYI, I know the P2B community very well. As you say most people would do things for self-interest and no one can fault them because it is a value system issue. I know P2B parents who got into the school(40 hrs of work) and you never see them again for the next 6 years, do you know such people? There are some alumni who has served in a school their kids graduated for 10 years!! Do you know them? I do. My point is all kinds of people exist in all kinds of categories, so let's not be naive to think that this category has more angelic people than that.

In the greater scheme of things, alumni is of national interest, not personal (in response to dorisp as well). And one fine day....you will find that this trait developed in your descendants will benefit you.

Add: Not that I support/agree with P2B..

I agree with you.....see ultimately we agree on many things more than disagree. And we can agree to disgree on points we do not have common views :celebrate: to a good day Uncle...some messages take time to internalise...mull over it.

ksi:

Nebbermind:

The http://www3.moe.edu.sg/compass/Alumni%20Handbook.pdf

limlim....I cannot remember in which thread we talk about the 'sentimental fools' issue again and I mentioned integral part of education and you asked for explanation.

I was hoping you could figure out the lesson of \"饮水思源\" as the education part that MOE is trying to deliver to the kids when they encourage people to continue to serve as an alumni and even send their kids back to the school.

This handbook has provided a lot of good read to expand on this.

ksi:

I was hoping you could figure out the lesson of \"饮水思源\" as the education part that MOE is trying to deliver to the kids when they encourage people to continue to serve as an alumni and even send their kids back to the school.

This handbook has provided a lot of good read to expand on this.

fightingmom:

ksi:

[quote=\"Nebbermind\"]The http://www3.moe.edu.sg/compass/Alumni%20Handbook.pdf

limlim....I cannot remember in which thread we talk about the 'sentimental fools' issue again and I mentioned integral part of education and you asked for explanation.

I was hoping you could figure out the lesson of \"饮水思源\" as the education part that MOE is trying to deliver to the kids when they encourage people to continue to serve as an alumni and even send their kids back to the school.

This handbook has provided a lot of good read to expand on this.

ksi:

Nebbermind:

The http://www3.moe.edu.sg/compass/Alumni%20Handbook.pdf

limlim....I cannot remember in which thread we talk about the 'sentimental fools' issue again and I mentioned integral part of education and you asked for explanation.

I was hoping you could figure out the lesson of \"饮水思源\" as the education part that MOE is trying to deliver to the kids when they encourage people to continue to serve as an alumni and even send their kids back to the school.

This handbook has provided a lot of good read to expand on this.

Nebbermind:

The http://www3.moe.edu.sg/compass/Alumni%20Handbook.pdf

Nebbermind:

The http://www3.moe.edu.sg/compass/Alumni%20Handbook.pdf

Nebbermind:

http://www3.moe.edu.sg/compass/Alumni%20Handbook.pdf

Nebbermind:

The http://www3.moe.edu.sg/compass/Alumni%20Handbook.pdf

phtthp:

nms1:

If the exams are too predictable or easy then everyone can obtain As and no-one knows who is really smart who just spent hours cramming. This is the reason why I like the changes being introduced to PSLE English. They may not have said this but I think it will help to distinguish the really good from the ones who've had hours of tuition and stock answers provided by their teachers.

Yes, agree!

with new EL PSLE starting wef 2015 to groom / nurture a new breed / generation of kids to equip them with critical thinking communication skills born in / after 2003 -

not so easy now to tackle, score in English paper. The open-ended nature / style of the questions will make it harder for students to prepare for PSLE. There are no Textbook(s) or Workbook(s). Instead, students are exposed to a wide variety of authentic texts - such as newspaper articles, websites and posters.

a Primary 6 student, said:
\"The part I enjoy most is that I'm able to express my opinions... because in this kind of question, there's No right or wrong answer .\" Pupils now learn to say, 'I agree with you because...', 'I disagree with you because...', so they learn the language of discussion. They also learn how to respect each other's opinions.

nms1:

If the exams are too predictable or easy then everyone can obtain As and no-one knows who is really smart who just spent hours cramming. This is the reason why I like the changes being introduced to PSLE English. They may not have said this but I think it will help to distinguish the really good from the ones who've had hours of tuition and stock answers provided by their teachers.

MR06:

dorisp:

[quote=\"MR06\"]

MOE is not tweaking the policy at the moment does not mean MOE is not tweaking the policy forever.

It may surprise you before the next P1 registration just as it had surprised the PRs in this year's registration!

Your statement may contain certain elements of truth, but it may make some :nunchuk: :rant: :mad: .........



:siam:

dorisp:

MR06:

MOE is not tweaking the policy at the moment does not mean MOE is not tweaking the policy forever.

It may surprise you before the next P1 registration just as it had surprised the PRs in this year's registration!

Your statement may contain certain elements of truth, but it may make some :nunchuk: :rant: :mad: .........



:siam:

Chenonceau:

This might sound like a sarcastic question but it is not. I really wanna know the thought process. Why is it so necessary to differentiate the bright, the brighter and the brightest academically?

concern2:

Chenonceau:

[quote=\"pirate\"]But we should not also forget that national exam papers should be able to sieve the top from the rest. If there aren't any \"overly tough\" questions, how are we going to identify the truly brilliant? Do we want exams where it is possible for a significant percentage of students to \"max-out\" the scores? Making those \"overly tough\" questions not hot-housable or crammable, however, is a different artform altogether. At the PSLE or even 'O' levels, this is not easy to do.

This might sound like a sarcastic question but it is not. I really wanna know the thought process. Why is it so necessary to differentiate the bright, the brighter and the brightest academically?

Chenonceau:

Uh oh... thread getting hot. Me gone. Have fun debating.


:siam:

Chenonceau:

pirate:

But we should not also forget that national exam papers should be able to sieve the top from the rest. If there aren't any \"overly tough\" questions, how are we going to identify the truly brilliant? Do we want exams where it is possible for a significant percentage of students to \"max-out\" the scores? Making those \"overly tough\" questions not hot-housable or crammable, however, is a different artform altogether. At the PSLE or even 'O' levels, this is not easy to do.

This might sound like a sarcastic question but it is not. I really wanna know the thought process. Why is it so necessary to differentiate the bright, the brighter and the brightest academically?