Comparing Math Enrichment Programmes

[Zeal mummy]

tinker_bell\" post_id=\"2061278\" time=\"1646988892\" user_id=\"194652:

My kid is very motivated for maths and science. Not so much for the languages.

I will be getting the get me thinking books first and work from there. Maybe after that can move onto maths olympaid books.

I’m happy for you that your child loves math and sci! Hope he likes the “thinking” book, tell us how you find it. Might have to go down to their center to buy.

[Swc]

tinker_bell\" post_id=\"2061272\" time=\"1646988410\" user_id=\"194652:

Thank you for sharing! I am looking for such a resource. To target those 4-mark and 5-mark type of challenging psle math questions. I will be buying the https://www.visiblemath.com.sg/get-me-thinking-series from Visible math this weekend.

I have heard from the parent chatgroups, that these challenging 4-mark and 5-mark questions towards the back of paper 2 are \"maths olympaid\" and \"GEP heuristics\" type of questions. To help MOE differentiate between the primary 6 students scoring AL1 versus AL2. I hope that the get me thinking books will help in that area.

The 4 or 5 marks problem are not really MO question types. Definitely heuristic. I do find the Get Me Thinking very useful for such 4 or 5 marks problem sums. The solution they provide are very clear and provide step by step explanations so you can \"see\" the thinking process.

However, Get Me Thinking do not cover all topics. They only cover topics that have those 4 to 5 marks problem sums. So for eg, they won't cover graphs or angles.

MO type questions - best still try MO books.

[tinker_bell]

Swc\" post_id=\"2061300\" time=\"1647048400\" user_id=\"178585:

The 4 or 5 marks problem are not really MO question types. Definitely heuristic. I do find the Get Me Thinking very useful for such 4 or 5 marks problem sums. The solution they provide are very clear and provide step by step explanations so you can \"see\" the thinking process.

However, Get Me Thinking do not cover all topics. They only cover topics that have those 4 to 5 marks problem sums. So for eg, they won't cover graphs or angles.

MO type questions - best still try MO books.

Thank you for sharing! I hope the get me thinking books will be suitable for my kid!

Any MO books to recommend for the psle math type of challenging questions?

[SG_KP1]

tinker_bell\" post_id=\"2061376\" time=\"1647128450\" user_id=\"194652:

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Any MO books to recommend for the psle math type of challenging questions?

One advantage (or at least characteristic) of the current AL System is that 90 or 100 still gets AL1. IMO, there is less of a need to build-up the warchest / tool set to be able to solve all of the questions that may come your way on the actual paper. In contrast, under t-score there were definitely students maxing out the paper, and even a low A* was giving up points (in the aggregate total score).

Of course, as you have seen the papers and questions do seem to fluctuate year-to-year, so it is possible there's 10+ points of \"challenging\" questions to try and divided AL1 vs. AL2. But I'm not sure this is the case in most years, and if a student is able to get through most of the paper clean (i.e. no careless errors - easier said than done) then he/she should be able to withstand missing 1 or 2 of the challenging questions and still obtain AL1.

This is not to say don't build up the math skills if the student is otherwise interested in Math. But for the PSLE paper itself it may not be necessary....

Good luck!

[tinker_bell]

SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2061396\" time=\"1647137769\" user_id=\"188234:

One advantage (or at least characteristic) of the current AL System is that 90 or 100 still gets AL1. IMO, there is less of a need to build-up the warchest / tool set to be able to solve all of the questions that may come your way on the actual paper. In contrast, under t-score there were definitely students maxing out the paper, and even a low A* was giving up points (in the aggregate total score).

Of course, as you have seen the papers and questions do seem to fluctuate year-to-year, so it is possible there's 10+ points of \"challenging\" questions to try and divided AL1 vs. AL2. But I'm not sure this is the case in most years, and if a student is able to get through most of the paper clean (i.e. no careless errors - easier said than done) then he/she should be able to withstand missing 1 or 2 of the challenging questions and still obtain AL1.

This is not to say don't build up the math skills if the student is otherwise interested in Math. But for the PSLE paper itself it may not be necessary....

Good luck!

Ah understood.. Thank you for sharing this perspective!

[Sheena_1]

Hi.


Thanks for the list. I’m surprised Learning Lab is not in it. Am I outdated? My child doesn’t go for my classes. He’s in P4 now, doing ok but i’d like to stretch his math ability. please share if it is wise to consider learning lab. I’m in the east and most of these centres you mentioned in the list are in north I believe. Any suggestions for the east side?

Thanks

tinker_bell\" post_id=\"2059425\" time=\"1645441996\" user_id=\"194652:

Check out the following list of Top 5 Math tuition specialists for PSLE and Primary School here!
Concept Math is also included in the list : https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=100437

Visible math
https://www.visiblemath.com.sg/
• 2 branches - Sin Ming and Novena.
• Large class size. Can be up to 20 students in classroom.
• Reasonable fees.
• Focus on mainstream math training. Mixed ability classes.
• Uses the 'cognitive conceptual approach' and 'concept builder' to help students understand the syllabus.
• Featured in Straits Times, Business Times and SME 500.

Nicklebee math
http://www.nicklebeetutors.com/
• 2 branches - Bishan and Punggol.
• Small class size. Max 4 students in a session.
• Fees are expensive.
• Focus on advanced math training. To target the 4-mark and 5-mark type of challenging psle math questions.
• Teaches their own techniques called : 'unitary method' and 'C3PO math'. Also includes some methods from gifted education programme math and olympiad math.
• Featured in Straits Times, Sunday Times, The New Paper, 958FM and Channel 8.

Concept math
https://www.conceptmath.com/
• 2 branches - Novena and Bukit Timah.
• Moderate class size. Max 12 students in a session. Founder's class may have more students.
• Reasonable fees.
• Focus on mainstream math training. Can join the founder's class for more advanced psle math workshops.
• Uses MOE based model method and their own 'S.M.A.R.T. approach'.
• Featured in CNBC, Straits Times, Sunday Times, The New Paper and Shin Min Daily News.

Math heuristics
https://mathsheuristics.com/
• 3 branches - Novena, Kovan and Tampines.
• Moderate class size. Max 10 students in a session.
• Fees are relatively expensive.
• Focus on advanced math training. Target paper 2 math questions.
• Founders were former psle markers and setters. They have their own unique technique called : 'unit transfer method'.
• Featured in Straits Times, Sunday Times, Mothership, Berita Harian, 958FM, 972FM and Shin Min Daily News.

Oodles thinkingmath
https://www.oodleslearning.com/
• 11 branches around Singapore. Main HQ at Thomson.
• Moderate class size. Max 12 students in a session.
• Reasonable Fees.
• Mainstream math training.
• Uses the '+hinkingMath onsponge' approach. Branches are run by franchisee.
• Organizes the Philip Yeo Young Scholars Award.

[tinker_bell]

Sheena_1\" post_id=\"2061950\" time=\"1647650638\" user_id=\"45423:

Hi.

Thanks for the list. I’m surprised Learning Lab is not in it. Am I outdated? My child doesn’t go for my classes. He’s in P4 now, doing ok but i’d like to stretch his math ability. please share if it is wise to consider learning lab. I’m in the east and most of these centres you mentioned in the list are in north I believe. Any suggestions for the east side?

Thanks

These math tuition centres specialize in conducting math classes.

As compared to TLL which is well regarded but is a multi-disciplinary tuition centre offering tuition for all subjects.

https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewforum.php?f=91

Here are 2 math tuition centres in the recommended list that have branches in the east

Math heuristics
Blk 824 Tampines St 81
Unit 01-20
(https://mathsheuristics.com/)

Oodles thinkingmath
Blk 139 Tampines St 11
Unit 01-80
(https://www.oodleslearning.com/)

[Sheena_1]

Hi,


I see your point.

Thanks for sharing.

tinker_bell\" post_id=\"2062019\" time=\"1647689658\" user_id=\"194652:

These math tuition centres specialize in conducting math classes.

As compared to TLL which is well regarded but is a multi-disciplinary tuition centre offering tuition for all subjects.

https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewforum.php?f=91

Here are 2 math tuition centres in the recommended list that have branches in the east

Math heuristics
Blk 824 Tampines St 81
Unit 01-20
(https://mathsheuristics.com/)

Oodles thinkingmath
Blk 139 Tampines St 11
Unit 01-80
(https://www.oodleslearning.com/)

[san20sg]

Anyone who has nicklebee maths p4, 5,6 notes for sale please pm me. Thanks!

[tinker_bell]

tinker_bell\" post_id=\"2061272\" time=\"1646988410\" user_id=\"194652:

Thank you for sharing! I am looking for such a resource. To target those 4-mark and 5-mark type of challenging psle math questions. I will be buying the https://www.visiblemath.com.sg/get-me-thinking-series from Visible math this weekend.

I have heard from the parent chatgroups, that these challenging 4-mark and 5-mark questions towards the back of paper 2 are \"maths olympaid\" and \"GEP heuristics\" type of questions. To help MOE differentiate between the primary 6 students scoring AL1 versus AL2. I hope that the get me thinking books will help in that area.

A quick update. Dropped by Visible math last weekend and noticed that they have rebranded to \"Ammiel wan math academy\".