bbbay\" post_id=\"2055096\" time=\"1641633217\" user_id=\"175278:

It is in the same domain as dyslexic/ADHD. it is not debilitating. Just don’t expect yourself to process info the same way as others. And it is exactly this different way of processing info that offer different perspective. And sometimes it can be useful to others.

Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2055092\" time=\"1641628288\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2055092 time=1641628288 user_id=195250]
Have you seeked any medical treatment for your auditory processing difficulties?[/quote]

bbbay\" post_id=\"2055082\" time=\"1641617722\" user_id=\"175278:

I was diagnosed with having auditory processing difficulties only at mid forties. Being aware and accept the limitation, changes everything. I now no longer benchmark myself against other people, get frustrated when I am not able to process as fast as others during meetings. I now focus on offering concise , alternate perspective, which l realised are lacking in my work place.

slmkhoo\" post_id=\"853827\" time=\"1348109638\" user_id=\"28674:

There are different types of memory too. Your daughter may remember things she learns in a more physical way, but not through hearing, for eg. My daughter remembers what she reads much better than what she hears, so she also has trouble remembering what teachers say. You might want to help her find ways to use the things she does well to remember info delivered by a different mode.

I do agree that many kids are forgetful, inattentive etc and still well within the normal range. I don't know about 24hr-mum's daughter, but mine is out of the normal range, unfortunately. We were told by the educational psychologist that she was unable to give an IQ result because the working memory and processing speed scores were too low compared with other elements in the test.

To give some examples, my daughter has very poor memory for info given verbally. You can ask her to do 2 things, and she will forget one or both within seconds! Carrying on a conversation with her takes a lot of patience (which most people don't have) as you have to wait as long as 5-10 seconds before she replies to each question, and sometimes the reply is \"What did you say?\" She is not rude or purposely inattentive, although we scolded her a lot in earlier years because we didn't realise her problems, but she really can't process or 'hold on' to the info. For such kids, parents and teachers do have to cut them some slack and help them find ways to cope. And they also have to be resigned that these kids cannot be high achievers in school as they are not equipped to cope with a lot of classroom interactions and activities and exams.

elderflowertea:

U can try to do cognitive training. Play memory games, etc. I have attended a training on brain training before.

Chenonceau:

Beanbear... you may wanna flip this book - http://www.amazon.com/Islands-Genius-Bountiful-Autistic-Acquired/dp/1849058733. I am not saying that your child exhibits the savant syndrome because she is normal in every other way. However, one of the chapters in this book discusses the phenomenon of musical genius. The description sounds a lot like your DD. Apparently, the musically talented get bored with traditional teaching methods.

I took a while to post this because I couldn't for the life of me remember where I came across this. It finally came to me this morning.

slmkhoo:

Beanbear, that's great that you found ways to help your daughter learn. My daughter's way is mostly visual, which is like me, so we didn't have a problem with that. In fact, we tease her that she has an 'elephant memory' when it comes to things that she reads or sees on TV. But that still doesn't help her cope with things like Maths or conversations because her processing speed and working memory are poor. To use a computer analogy, she has a big hard drive but limited RAM and a very slow processor! Every day when I do Maths with her, I can see she understands the concepts, but she takes so long to put the parts together and work things out. Given unlimited time and some interest, she can do it, but with limited time and energy and not much interest in Maths, that is the subject we struggle with most.

beanbear:

DD is musically gifted but extremely difficult to teach in the traditional way. If you try tell her to play notes by teaching her explicitly the notes, using terminology like forte, piano, legato etc, she'll yawn by the 3 min. But if you just play alongside with her, she just \"feels\" the music and she mimics exactly what you want her to produce. No need to explain. She doesn't even need to look at the score to remember how to play. Her muscular memory is stronger than her visual memory.

slmkhoo:

Beanbear, that's great that you found ways to help your daughter learn. My daughter's way is mostly visual, which is like me, so we didn't have a problem with that. In fact, we tease her that she has an 'elephant memory' when it comes to things that she reads or sees on TV. But that still doesn't help her cope with things like Maths or conversations because her processing speed and working memory are poor. To use a computer analogy, she has a big hard drive but limited RAM and a very slow processor! Every day when I do Maths with her, I can see she understands the concepts, but she takes so long to put the parts together and work things out. Given unlimited time and some interest, she can do it, but with limited time and energy and not much interest in Maths, that is the subject we struggle with most.

Imami:

slmkhoo:

[quote=\"Imami\"]
I think it depends more on the teacher's personality than his achievement, although high achievers can often be less understanding to weaker students. Between my husband and myself, he is the much better teacher of Maths even though he topped in Maths all his school life and has a higher degree in Math too. When I find myself losing patience explaining things to my daughter for the nth time, I pass her on to him. He also has a way of seeing where she has reached a mental block and helping her around that which I can't. If he had more time, I would let him do all the Math coaching, but he is too busy to do it daily. I also had an great tutor when I was flunking Maths in JC who was a 1st class hon graduate from a top UK university, and he was really patient and good at explaining Maths to non-math people like me. I clawed my way from an E to an A in 1 year with his help.

slmkhoo:

Beanbear, that's great that you found ways to help your daughter learn. My daughter's way is mostly visual, which is like me, so we didn't have a problem with that. In fact, we tease her that she has an 'elephant memory' when it comes to things that she reads or sees on TV. But that still doesn't help her cope with things like Maths or conversations because her processing speed and working memory are poor. To use a computer analogy, she has a big hard drive but limited RAM and a very slow processor! Every day when I do Maths with her, I can see she understands the concepts, but she takes so long to put the parts together and work things out. Given unlimited time and some interest, she can do it, but with limited time and energy and not much interest in Maths, that is the subject we struggle with most.

slmkhoo:

Imami:

[quote=\"slmkhoo\"]
Oh yes.... I always thought the best teachers are not the best students. My brother was a model student. He worked hard and worked even harder. He never understands why I (and now my nephew and niece) can't grap certain math/science concept. For me, I am never a model student (there us always someone more hardworking, better results etc) but I can emphatise with someone who is lost in transformation, vectors and algorithm.

I think it depends more on the teacher's personality than his achievement, although high achievers can often be less understanding to weaker students. Between my husband and myself, he is the much better teacher of Maths even though he topped in Maths all his school life and has a higher degree in Math too. When I find myself losing patience explaining things to my daughter for the nth time, I pass her on to him. He also has a way of seeing where she has reached a mental block and helping her around that which I can't. If he had more time, I would let him do all the Math coaching, but he is too busy to do it daily. I also had an great tutor when I was flunking Maths in JC who was a 1st class hon graduate from a top UK university, and he was really patient and good at explaining Maths to non-math people like me. I clawed my way from an E to an A in 1 year with his help.

slmkhoo:

Nebbermind:

Back to topic...were u all so hardworking and focus?!!

Unfortunately for my daughter, both my husband and I were pretty model students. We were quite hard on my girl in the early years as we thought she was uncooperative and disobedient, but it didn't gel with what we could see of her overall attitude and personality. It was only as we read up more we realised that we really had a 'special' kid on our hands. Helping her through the years (she's 15yo now) has taught me a lot which I never knew about kids who struggle in school and in life.

Nebbermind:

Sometimes I wonder what u parents were like during your school days.

I remember we donch always pay attention in class, especially those at the back of the class...some busy catching up on homework. Some lessons were simply boring and painful.
But the good thing was that we had pretty decent school textbooks then and they didn't test so much beyond.
Back to topic...were u all so hardworking and focus?!!

slmkhoo:

There are different types of memory too. Your daughter may remember things she learns in a more physical way, but not through hearing, for eg. My daughter remembers what she reads much better than what she hears, so she also has trouble remembering what teachers say. You might want to help her find ways to use the things she does well to remember info delivered by a different mode.


I do agree that many kids are forgetful, inattentive etc and still well within the normal range. I don't know about 24hr-mum's daughter, but mine is out of the normal range, unfortunately. We were told by the educational psychologist that she was unable to give an IQ result because the working memory and processing speed scores were too low compared with other elements in the test.

To give some examples, my daughter has very poor memory for info given verbally. You can ask her to do 2 things, and she will forget one or both within seconds! Carrying on a conversation with her takes a lot of patience (which most people don't have) as you have to wait as long as 5-10 seconds before she replies to each question, and sometimes the reply is \"What did you say?\" She is not rude or purposely inattentive, although we scolded her a lot in earlier years because we didn't realise her problems, but she really can't process or 'hold on' to the info. For such kids, parents and teachers do have to cut them some slack and help them find ways to cope. And they also have to be resigned that these kids cannot be high achievers in school as they are not equipped to cope with a lot of classroom interactions and activities and exams.

slmkhoo:

Nebbermind:

Back to topic...were u all so hardworking and focus?!!

Unfortunately for my daughter, both my husband and I were pretty model students. We were quite hard on my girl in the early years as we thought she was uncooperative and disobedient, but it didn't gel with what we could see of her overall attitude and personality. It was only as we read up more we realised that we really had a 'special' kid on our hands. Helping her through the years (she's 15yo now) has taught me a lot which I never knew about kids who struggle in school and in life.

slmkhoo:

for such kids, parents and teachers do have to cut them some slack and help them find ways to cope. And they also have to be resigned that these kids cannot be high achievers in school as they are not equipped to cope with a lot of classroom interactions and activities and exams.

slmkhoo:

Unfortunately for my daughter, both my husband and I were pretty model students. We were quite hard on my girl in the early years as we thought she was uncooperative and disobedient, but it didn't gel with what we could see of her overall attitude and personality. It was only as we read up more we realised that we really had a 'special' kid on our hands. Helping her through the years (she's 15yo now) has taught me a lot which I never knew about kids who struggle in school and in life.