<![CDATA[Vulgar words]]>Recently, my DS1 picked up a couple of vulgar words from the upp primary boys from the same sch bus. He came back and asked me abt the meaning of the F word and meaning of "700" in chinese. I was totally shocked to hear that. Immediately, I explained to him that those were vulgar words and he should never say them at all. I further explained that he should ignore his friends if they ever utter those words again. However, he was not convinced and asked what so vulgar abt it? I was speechless and I could only threaten him that if anyone were to catch him saying those words, he would have to see the principal as it is a very serious offence. I just hope he gets my message…


How would you deal with such a situation? Any advice?

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CuttleFish31:
Hi, as a parent for over 10 years now, I think that I am more than qualified to say a few words on this.


Vulgar words are commonplace in today's society and complete censorship of these words is almost impossible. Plus, censorship is a hindrance to education.

By the way, let me introduce the many uses of the 'F' word in today's modern society. Out of all these words that begin with the letter 'f', F*CK is the only word that is commonly referred to the F word. It is the one magical word. Just by its sound it can describe pain, pleasure and love. F*CK as with most words in the English language, is derived from German. 'Frichen' which means 'to strike'. In English, F*ck falls into many grammatical categories. It can be used as a transitive verb in the case such as \"John F*cked Shirley\" and also as an intransitive verb, \"Shirley F*cks\". Its meaning is not always sexual, it can be used as an adjective; \"John's doing all the F*cking work\", as part of an adverb, \"Shirley talks too F*cking much\", an adverb enhancing an adjective, \"Shirley is F*cking beautiful\", as a noun, \"I don't give a F*ck\", as part of a word, \"absof*ckinglutely\" or \"inf*ckingcredible\". In the human language, there aren't many words with the versatility of the word F*ck as such in these examples describing situations such as fraud, \"I got f*cked at the used car lot\", dismay, \"Ah! F*ck it!\", trouble, \"I guess I'm really f*cked now\", aggression, \"Don't f*ck with me buddy\", difficulty, \"I don't understand this f*cking question\", inquiry, \"Who the f*ck was that?\". I'm sure we can think of many more examples. With all these multipurpose applications, how can anyone be offended when someone uses the word \"F*ck\".
wat de f*ck! u seem to enjoy this word alot. :roll:
well, being a boo myself i have had my fair share of such vocab raining down on me since i was only a little ger. :oops:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/313040https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/313040Tue, 14 Dec 2010 01:10:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vulgar words on Sun, 12 Dec 2010 07:00:42 GMT]]>dun tok abt kids even among adults such words either get offensive or embarrassing.

we're both very open to such things but we believe if u explain the meaning of those words in the correct reference to kids then they might not find them so 'dirty' after all.
eg. the F word: make love; the 700 word: vagina, the LJ word: pen1s, etc...
what u all think? let us hear some feedback n comments.
hey why suddenly talking about sex organs and love-making? :?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/312224https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/312224Sun, 12 Dec 2010 07:00:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vulgar words on Sat, 11 Dec 2010 15:12:25 GMT]]>I think one of the biggest predicaments concerning vulgarity is the fact that no one can really, truly explain WHY these words came to be and why one shouldn't say them. They are simply words after all, but I think one's best bet to explaining vulgarity to their child is to explain that there really IS no explanation. This will probably confuse your children, but sometimes it's best to just say \"it is what it is.\"


Regardless of WHY such vulgarity exists, it isn't acceptable in our society. With that said, no one should use it in their every day vernacular when in a professional or banquet setting. Instead of trying to think up a fine explanation on why these words shouldn't be used, sometimes it's better to be honest and simply say \"I don't know. . .but if you use that language in school or in a job interview, you're going to get in trouble.\"

There are lots of things in life that we can't explain. This is just another example of that. 🙂
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It's my firm belief that every school should have http://www.aaastateofplay.com/! 😄

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/312071https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/312071Sat, 11 Dec 2010 15:12:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vulgar words on Thu, 09 Dec 2010 09:05:25 GMT]]>

rocklee:
Recently, my DS1 picked up a couple of vulgar words from the upp primary boys from the same sch bus. He came back and asked me abt the meaning of the F word and meaning of \"700\" in chinese. I was totally shocked to hear that. Immediately, I explained to him that those were vulgar words and he should never say them at all. I further explained that he should ignore his friends if they ever utter those words again. However, he was not convinced and asked what so vulgar abt it? I was speechless and I could only threaten him that if anyone were to catch him saying those words, he would have to see the principal as it is a very serious offence. I just hope he gets my message...


How would you deal with such a situation? Any advice?

Hi rocklee,

Sooner or later we will face this problem, especially with our boys.

I dealt with it not with the \"policeman with catch you\" threat, but by explaining to my son what is the meaning of the vulgar word and why it is vulgar or unpleasant to utter it. It can be an opportunity to inject some adhoc sex education into the conversation too.

The idea to put across is that using words like FXXX is for people who suffers from one or more of these:
(1) do not have a good vocabulary
(2) want to sound arrogant / aggressive / hip
(3) do not want to be respected

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/311180https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/311180Thu, 09 Dec 2010 09:05:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vulgar words on Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:50:00 GMT]]>When I heard my 5 yr old DS1 say ‘s***’ one day, I simply told him in a very matter of fact way that it was a rude word. He stopped after that. I discovered later on that he had learnt it from a classmate, X. In fact, we found this out at X’s birthday party, where X was using the word freely during a game. I think all the other parents around were shocked. In the end, DH told X that it was inappropriate behavior.


Our boys also learned ‘wah-l**’ from my in-laws. Though not quite as vulgar, it’s still not polite language. We told our boys that it was not a nice word to use. Now they they will ‘catch’ their grandparents and ‘scold’ them when they use that word.

My 3year old said f*** once, but I think he stumbled on it was he was trying to make up sounds. My mum was so amused when she heard it that she couldn’t stop laughing, which only encouraged him to say it more! So I had to distract him. He hasn’t said it since, thank goodness!

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/300043https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/300043Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:50:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vulgar words on Sun, 21 Nov 2010 08:47:40 GMT]]>So how do you explain to your kids the real meaning of the f*** word. Do you start your sex education talk here?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/298468https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/298468Sun, 21 Nov 2010 08:47:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vulgar words on Mon, 16 Aug 2010 01:42:44 GMT]]>

ZacK:
daisyt:


I recently noticed, shark (not sure if I spell correctly) word replacing shit. :?

Are you referring to \"shucks\" rather than shark? :?

Yes, this should be the one. Thanks

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/240561https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/240561Mon, 16 Aug 2010 01:42:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vulgar words on Sun, 15 Aug 2010 16:42:37 GMT]]>

daisyt:
If this word is not offensive, why is it not fully spell out when people use it. I still feel it is not pleasant.


Yes, this word is getting very commonly used nowadays. But common does not mean one should follow and use it too.

I recently noticed, shark (not sure if I spell correctly) word replacing shit. :?
schools do censor the 'f' and 's' words, at least my kids' schools do that

they know those words and vulgar and rude and they know it is wrong to use them whether as verb, nouns, or as punctuation marks.....if they can't find the word to express their frustrations .... they will go and find the right words for it and express their frustrations in rephrasing their thoughts.

It is all a matter of self-control taught from young.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/240476https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/240476Sun, 15 Aug 2010 16:42:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vulgar words on Sun, 15 Aug 2010 16:37:01 GMT]]>

daisyt:

I recently noticed, shark (not sure if I spell correctly) word replacing shit. :?
Are you referring to \"shucks\" rather than shark? :?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/240475https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/240475Sun, 15 Aug 2010 16:37:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vulgar words on Fri, 13 Aug 2010 06:46:30 GMT]]>If this word is not offensive, why is it not fully spell out when people use it. I still feel it is not pleasant.


Yes, this word is getting very commonly used nowadays. But common does not mean one should follow and use it too.

I recently noticed, shark (not sure if I spell correctly) word replacing shit. :?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/239200https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/239200Fri, 13 Aug 2010 06:46:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vulgar words on Fri, 13 Aug 2010 05:37:09 GMT]]>

mckenzy:
i feel that vulgarities only come out when we cannot express ourselves (usually at extreme emotional moments) properly with the right grammer and vocabulary.


Use of vulgarities reflect poorly on this ability. I'm was no goodie two shoes myself when i was in primary school... but over the years i managed to wean-off this 'simplistic' (for want of a better term) way of expression and move on to express myself in a more 'proper' way.

In alot of cases, moving away from vulgarities means keeping quiet and holding the tongue. The tongue is a powerful organ that can speak life and also speak ill... what comes out of our mouth shows what is within... food for thought...
Aptly put, mckenzy.

I found it less frustrating if I take it my children use expletives because they could not think of any other way of expressing their negative emotions.

I actually stopped them there and then, and turn the episode into an English lesson.. forcing them to rack their brains for 1 or 2 phrases to replace the offending one.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/239110https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/239110Fri, 13 Aug 2010 05:37:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vulgar words on Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:26:14 GMT]]>Hi, as a parent for over 10 years now, I think that I am more than qualified to say a few words on this.


Vulgar words are commonplace in today’s society and complete censorship of these words is almost impossible. Plus, censorship is a hindrance to education.

By the way, let me introduce the many uses of the ‘F’ word in today’s modern society. Out of all these words that begin with the letter ‘f’, FCK is the only word that is commonly referred to the F word. It is the one magical word. Just by its sound it can describe pain, pleasure and love. FCK as with most words in the English language, is derived from German. ‘Frichen’ which means ‘to strike’. In English, Fck falls into many grammatical categories. It can be used as a transitive verb in the case such as "John Fcked Shirley" and also as an intransitive verb, "Shirley Fcks". Its meaning is not always sexual, it can be used as an adjective; "John’s doing all the Fcking work", as part of an adverb, "Shirley talks too Fcking much", an adverb enhancing an adjective, "Shirley is Fcking beautiful", as a noun, "I don’t give a Fck", as part of a word, "absofckinglutely" or "infckingcredible". In the human language, there aren’t many words with the versatility of the word Fck as such in these examples describing situations such as fraud, "I got fcked at the used car lot", dismay, "Ah! Fck it!", trouble, "I guess I’m really fcked now", aggression, "Don’t fck with me buddy", difficulty, "I don’t understand this fcking question", inquiry, "Who the fck was that?". I’m sure we can think of many more examples. With all these multipurpose applications, how can anyone be offended when someone uses the word "F*ck".

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/58002https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/58002Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:26:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vulgar words on Wed, 16 Sep 2009 04:26:13 GMT]]>On this topic, I’m pretty much given in to the times. Fk is now common language, everyone uses it. I feel it no longer has the impact it did 10-15 years ago.


So I have decided not to make a fuss over it. I expect to hear it from my DD’s mouth within the next 10 years.

My issue mainly is with these foolish boys in the streets/buses/etc who use it as an adjective for every 5th word in every sentence. Obviously they think it’s cool to swear, unaware of the public fools they make themselves out to be.

I’m not usually offended by the use of vulgarities, in general, if used in appropriate situations. For example, the other day I was walking out from under a HDB block and a bloody FKING cigarette butt hit my heaD!! Some Fking idiot had thrown it out his Fking flat! I was so pissed I swore right in front of my DD, who was with me. Imagine if it struck her instead!!

She paid no notice to the word anyway. I’m sure she’ll pick it up sooner or later, and I prefer not to make a fuss out of it.

It’s quite unlike my attitude towards smoking - THAT offends me to the core. And yet, there are tons of smokers (and I’m pretty sure a signifcant no. of you here smoke) everywhere whose 2nd-hand smoke and littering habits are, I find, far more vulgar than any cuss word.

Which is worse? It’s all relative isn’t it.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/57869https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/57869Wed, 16 Sep 2009 04:26:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vulgar words on Wed, 16 Sep 2009 04:04:51 GMT]]>i feel that vulgarities only come out when we cannot express ourselves (usually at extreme emotional moments) properly with the right grammer and vocabulary.


Use of vulgarities reflect poorly on this ability. I’m was no goodie two shoes myself when i was in primary school… but over the years i managed to wean-off this ‘simplistic’ (for want of a better term) way of expression and move on to express myself in a more ‘proper’ way.

In alot of cases, moving away from vulgarities means keeping quiet and holding the tongue. The tongue is a powerful organ that can speak life and also speak ill… what comes out of our mouth shows what is within… food for thought…

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/57854https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/57854Wed, 16 Sep 2009 04:04:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vulgar words on Fri, 11 Sep 2009 02:52:11 GMT]]>Driving during peak hours usually brings the ‘best’ out of DH.


And somehow kids radar seem to be constantly tuned in for these occasional slip ups of adults.

DH lost his cool when the driver in front slammed on his brake suddenly to cut to the left and went

DH : Bloody ffff (at this point I stared at him and he stopped)
DD : wat daddy wat? Bloody wat? (up until this point the 2 of them were spacing out)
DH : uhhh… failure
DD : huh??!?
DH : Well, that guy in front almost caused an accident. So I think he failed his driving test. That’s why I am him a failure.
DD : orrhhhh. But is he hurt?
DH : huh??
DD : you say he bloody mah
DS : yah, we call ambulance to save him, then we call police to catch him cos he naughty almost make daddy bang his car!

To my kids, words like stupid, die, disgusting are considered bad words. And if anyone were to use them, they will go orrrhorr, you say bad word. Ahhh… the innocence of a preschooler. I will enjoy it now, for soon, I will have to deal with the real serious stuff.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/56756https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/56756Fri, 11 Sep 2009 02:52:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vulgar words on Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:00:01 GMT]]>

Little M:
My hubby n I discourages any swear words.


The other day, I was so angry with my 2 kids (7 n 5 yr olds) that I told them to \"shut-up\". After that, the kids were whispering to each other \"oh, mommy said the \"s\" word.\"
My 4yo daughter is in that mode now. I have to be very careful with what I say these days, to avoid her \"Orrr Horrr... daddy say bad words\". :oops:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/56703https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/56703Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:00:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vulgar words on Thu, 10 Sep 2009 05:10:53 GMT]]>My hubby n I discourages any swear words.


The other day, I was so angry with my 2 kids (7 n 5 yr olds) that I told them to "shut-up". After that, the kids were whispering to each other "oh, mommy said the "s" word."

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/56611https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/56611Thu, 10 Sep 2009 05:10:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vulgar words on Wed, 09 Sep 2009 03:04:30 GMT]]>

ChiefKiasu:
Sorry... this is a little off-topic, but it reminds me of a game show on radio during the early 90s, where they get kids to call in and answer questions for prizes. I can't remember the name of the show... but here's a version of what allegedly happened:


DJ: OK... we are going to give you the name of an animal, and you tell us what is the opposite sex of that animal.
Boy: OK.
DJ: What's the male of a cow?
Boy: BULL!
DJ: Correct! Next... what's the female of a cock?
Boy: Err....
DJ: Come on... I'm sure you know the answer.
Boy: I... I cannot say...
DJ: Sure you can. Just say it and you'll get the prize!
Boy: \"七百\"
DJ: ... complete silence for precious radio seconds...

Heard the show was cancelled soon after.

I'm sorry for being out of topic too but...this is really classic! Can't believe it happened in rl singapore XD

Poor DJ though... bet he got the whack of it.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/56410https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/56410Wed, 09 Sep 2009 03:04:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vulgar words on Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:05:52 GMT]]>

insider:


Then I told her, \"Mummy allows you to use bad words if you have to.\" Then she blurted out, \"He is really fxxx-up!\" Then we both laughed and I said, \"Ya, really fxxx-up!\"
I grew up as a prim convent schoolgirl where, if I even think of a bad word, would go red in the face. I think the worst I ever got up to was \"bloody hell!\".

When I went to college, it became quite normal to use the fXXX word and I enjoyed my freedom so much, I probably over-said it. :oops: There is a lot of truth to words opening up a well of emotion that we otherwise would have had not access to. Like in George Orwell's 1984, if they banned the word, then you won't have the related emotion. Conversely if you use a word, a different set of emotions will spring forth.

I find from my own life that the appropriate use of vulgar words (context, with friends etc) is more critical rather than sweeping it under the carpet. Just like ourselves, our kids will learn to use them whether we like it or not. Better to explain to them about when and where they can use it so we don't get bombarded.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/56057https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/56057Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:05:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vulgar words on Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:07:08 GMT]]>I think swear words and cursing is very normal stuff for kids growing up. They just need to know when to draw a line to it.


Even when you go to higher social circles of professors, doctors, directors etc which I usually hang out with, you still hear a lot of that. But in formal cases, you certainly cannot start spouting all that.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/56032https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/56032Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:07:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vulgar words on Sat, 05 Sep 2009 18:03:41 GMT]]>

insider:
........PS: Not encouraging kids to use vulgar words but not to be too alarmed when they do so (qualify: they must be old enough to know when to use and when not to use such as never use it in front my uncles/aunties/mum!!!). Their knowledge of vulgar words will 'improve' when they reach secondary school. Even my daughter in elite school knows about them and will come back to ask me when people say this means what and say that means what and I will explain (she said don't know Hokkien a bit on the losing end as even kena scolded also don't know people scolding what...). Personally I am fine with my older kids spouting vulgar words or swearing occasionally coz I find it 'human' leh...

Hey Insider,

U r the \"open\" one. I dun think i can accept ds1 in near future will use vuglar on me, cos i dun use any on them. I dun know whether is right or wrong to indirectly criticise my mil infront of family members, incl both ds. The incident happened when mil offered a cup of tea to dh, dh just placed on coffee table, mil \"instructed\" to put in certain position, dh just replied \"chin chye lah\" MIL reponsed with **! DS1 \"caught\" ah ma for scolding \"bad\" word. I happily took the chance reacted,\" So u see, ah ma using \"bad\" words, there goes to her son, that's yr papa. And here yr mummy dun use \"bad' words, will u just follow me??\" Ds1 replied,\" I won't lah!\"At that incident, my Brother in law was there too.

Think i am the kiasi kind lah, dun use any vuglar during my primary & secondary school days. Guess maybe friends i mixed with dun use \"them\", we were not the REAL studious one though. Know \"them\" well from father, but can't bring myself to scold any, find it disgusting. Ever commented my father rotten mouth with rotten words, ended with a \"knock\" on my head 😢

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/55943https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/55943Sat, 05 Sep 2009 18:03:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vulgar words on Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:41:19 GMT]]>In my family, we don’t use vulgar words.

So my kids learn them from school, but they don’t use it. At least, not at home.
They will ask me what the words mean, and i will explain it to them.
They have to learn some day or another. It is a form of education, which is needed to integrate in our society.
I just tell them that no matter how handsome or pretty you are, the moment you utter those words, you will become ugly.
Seems to work, as they don’t use it at home, not even when their friends come over for a game of xbox and their friends do say some of these words sometimes. They will remind their friends to refrain from using those words!

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/55387https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/55387Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:41:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vulgar words on Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:34:01 GMT]]>

RRMummy:


oh.. izzit.. I wasn't even aware that those are the \"pet names\" only.. I thought the baby words that are used are the pet names while those hurled during swearing were the Real Names.. :lol:
Hmmmm...just thought they were the crude (adult) version of the \"pet name\"...ehm 700 for e.g. doesn't translate to any other dialect or mandarin, I'd think. :roll:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/53833https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/53833Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:34:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Vulgar words on Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:08:12 GMT]]>

Andaiz:
RRMummy:


err.. I don't think it is the word per se but the context it is said that defines if a word is vulgar or not.. p/s.. then again these words said in hokkien definitely considered vulgar words leh.. :?

Haha, little ironies in our lives, eh? Then again, the hokkien version is the \"pet name\" right? What is the actual term? If we can tell them that, mebbe it wouldn't be termed as crude anymore!

oh.. izzit.. I wasn't even aware that those are the \"pet names\" only.. I thought the baby words that are used are the pet names while those hurled during swearing were the Real Names.. :lol:

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