<![CDATA[Is your workplace pro-family?]]>I wonder if there's any suitable threads for this topic already? Here's the thing - how would working parents rate their workplace / management? Pro-family? Somewhat? Or not at all?


Every morning, I drop my daughter off at the nursery near my workplace. Some mornings are happy, some starts with tears. Just like my daughter's mood, on some mornings, the traffic on the expressways are better on certain days, worse on others. And when we reach the nursery, sometimes it is what is expected, sometimes there is a long queue. Today was one of those mornings that didn't start as well as it should be. I ended up being 10 minutes late; arriving at 8:40am instead of the required 8:30am. :yikes:

And for this, I was reprimanded by the manager. When I wanted to explain, I was essentially told that punctuality (or the lack of, rather) is not tolerable, if I cannot be on time everyday, I should apply to come in 15mins late and end 15mins later. I wonder what got into me - the dam just shattered and I found myself crying! 😢

Perhaps because I try so hard? And if I have tried so hard and sometimes still end up being a worldly 10 minutes late, I am reprimanded such? :siao: These are the days that I really feel like quitting - why bother trying so hard? I'm sure my daughter doesn't appreciate being chased out of the bed / door every morning! On days like this I wonder why I even try at all... :stupid: Am I working with the wrong people? Or perhaps if I cannot be on time I shouldn't even be working at all? So if my boss has a deadline do I even bother staying late? Maybe I should asked to be paid OT by the minute? :mad: :mad: :mad:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/42313/is-your-workplace-pro-familyRSS for NodeTue, 21 Apr 2026 05:49:54 GMTMon, 15 Oct 2012 13:08:17 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Is your workplace pro-family? on Wed, 31 Oct 2012 07:09:23 GMT]]>mdm nazi seems to be haunting us everywhere…


but i can tell u… in my opinion, mdm nazi is most afraid of chilli padi… be a chilli padi at work and off she will go…

anyone can try and tell me if it works? it works for me…

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/887537https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/887537Wed, 31 Oct 2012 07:09:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is your workplace pro-family? on Wed, 31 Oct 2012 05:49:02 GMT]]>Well, my greatest relief is that I do not report to Mdm Nazi. And I hope she goes for more of her mysterious leave schemes… (she’s been working 1-2 days per week for the last 6 weeks or so; then maternity leave… so I am counting for those days to arrive, too. It’s a department of 6 staff and 2 bosses. It’s funny how she makes it all nice and rosy to the bosses, but the background work is that she puts her colleagues down, demoralises them over small things…

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/887473https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/887473Wed, 31 Oct 2012 05:49:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is your workplace pro-family? on Wed, 31 Oct 2012 04:00:41 GMT]]>

limlim:
You said \"how about being seen at Sentosa RWS\"..


So my reply is indirectly saying, she probably committed an act which is subjected to disciplinary actions, and can possibly be charged, if the company pursues. It is no difference from cheating if she is not feeling unwell but took MC.

In most cases, it is difficult to judge if the person is really \"sick\" as long as they stay behind doors.

But if out in the open and enjoying.. it is quite beyond reasonable doubt that she is not feeling \"unwell\" enough to be unable to report for work..
Ah ok... Understand. Honestly, I don't think she is sick.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/887353https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/887353Wed, 31 Oct 2012 04:00:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is your workplace pro-family? on Wed, 31 Oct 2012 02:06:07 GMT]]>

straffan23:
I like my job, but recently because of being picked on by Madam Nazi over small things (repeatedly!)...

If you have to drag yourself to work, then its time to look for a new job!

There is always a bully in every office/every school/every class.

In my case, our Ms Nazi is super free (& super rude) and not really tied to any department. Works 9.30am-5.20pm timing, 2 hrs lunch, 1 hr tea-break and also 4pm Newspaper Reading Time. All our pantry drinks or biscuits are her preference brands. If there is last packet left in the container, pls do not drink/eat it...thats Ms Nazi's! She even decides where to eat team lunch or dinner. If she eats a fancy lunch, she will claim it as \"lunch discussion\".

She has the most unkind words to say to people and had made my colleagues (who are really lambs) shed tears. Quite a story about her here.... :mad:

But I simply ignore her and have not spoken to her for 4 yrs now. We are NOT friends, just office colleagues. There is no emotion involved. We only discussed business when neccessary.

Ms Nazi will not affect my day at all because I simply dont give the sh*t about Ms Nazi.

Using Ms Nazi as an example, I have a nickname for her at home and use her to teach DD1 about \"bullies are everywhere\", not just in DD1's class.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/887251https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/887251Wed, 31 Oct 2012 02:06:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is your workplace pro-family? on Wed, 31 Oct 2012 01:10:15 GMT]]>I like my job, but recently because of being picked on by Madam Nazi over small things (repeatedly!)... I have been feeling quite \"sian-ji-pua\"... 🤷 Feeling that I am dragging myself to work, counting the days and months that I can quit without worrying about childcare arrangment and childcare grants... Counting the number of MC days I have taken :evil: (and the balance I am entitled to :evil: :evil: )


Maybe I am even willing myself to fall sick? These few days feeling cold in the office, no mood to work, wishing myself sick so that I can take 2 days MC! So, in conclusion, I stand with my belief - as someone that has seniority in position or experience, there is that duty and responsibility - but then there is the way of doing things. The outcome should be one that motivates and inspires, and not by putting people down and picking on small things. I am not the only one. My new colleague has no appetite for lunch - whenever he gets an email from Mdm Nazi or when she is in the office.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/887209https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/887209Wed, 31 Oct 2012 01:10:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is your workplace pro-family? on Wed, 31 Oct 2012 00:55:57 GMT]]>You said "how about being seen at Sentosa RWS"…


So my reply is indirectly saying, she probably committed an act which is subjected to disciplinary actions, and can possibly be charged, if the company pursues. It is no difference from cheating if she is not feeling unwell but took MC.

In most cases, it is difficult to judge if the person is really "sick" as long as they stay behind doors.

But if out in the open and enjoying… it is quite beyond reasonable doubt that she is not feeling "unwell" enough to be unable to report for work…

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/887200https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/887200Wed, 31 Oct 2012 00:55:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is your workplace pro-family? on Tue, 30 Oct 2012 14:08:22 GMT]]>Aiya... Like I say, it's personal integrity or something along this line. Like joule said, evEn when he's mc, he stays in touch with so that things still get done. That's very good attitude. For those at the opposite end, why would they care about \"at company's expense\"? To them, using up ALL the mc and whatever is their entitlement.


I may welcome all sorts of leaves, that psle leave included, but hor, I never really feel that 14days mc is \"entitlement\". How can that be? :stupid: :slapshead: i believe maybe the employee handbook writes like that \" staff is entitled to 14days of paid medial leave...\" but really, it shd not be taken for granted.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/887008https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/887008Tue, 30 Oct 2012 14:08:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is your workplace pro-family? on Tue, 30 Oct 2012 08:18:45 GMT]]>

Imami:
limlim:

[quote=\"Imami\"]

I had a good lesson today. Met an old bird of my organization. She just got her long service award of 35years. Well done, right?

She told me she would be clearing her leave soon and that we would meet next year. :yikes: she going nom pay leave, I asked? Nah... She said. She would be clearing the rest of her mc entitlement of 30 days + extended mc of 10 days + 13 days of annual leave brought forward from last year. Wah..... I was concerned, was she erm... Sick? She said no, all she did was to ask her doc to issue letter for her weak knees.
Well done. Win hands down. I pity her team.

If she is caught overseas or engaged in some activities that a \"sick\" person shouldn't be doing.. then gxgx liao..

what is gxgx?

This old bird sure knows her games.... she wont be caught overseas on those days when she's on mc de....oh..... what about being seen in sentosa RWS???? 😆[/quote]
MC is for the employee to rest at home.. not go out and hv fun at the company's expenses.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/886788https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/886788Tue, 30 Oct 2012 08:18:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is your workplace pro-family? on Tue, 30 Oct 2012 07:43:28 GMT]]>

Imami:
limlim:

[quote=\"Imami\"]

I had a good lesson today. Met an old bird of my organization. She just got her long service award of 35years. Well done, right?

If she is caught overseas or engaged in some activities that a \"sick\" person shouldn't be doing.. then gxgx liao..

what is gxgx?

This old bird sure knows her games.... she wont be caught overseas on those days when she's on mc de....oh..... what about being seen in sentosa RWS???? 😆[/quote]gx gx is gong xi gong xi

what doctor did she go to? Quick! Let me know. I want to say I hallucinate and see flying dollar bills whenever I drive past an ERP gantry. Sure get 2 weeks mc one....

but on 2nd thought, whenever I'm on MC, I still do work anyway (at home) and on work instant msgner so my colleagues still can talk to me, so there's really no point. Maybe on the odd day when I really don't feel like doing stuff....

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/886763https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/886763Tue, 30 Oct 2012 07:43:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is your workplace pro-family? on Tue, 30 Oct 2012 07:23:51 GMT]]>

limlim:
Imami:



I had a good lesson today. Met an old bird of my organization. She just got her long service award of 35years. Well done, right?

She told me she would be clearing her leave soon and that we would meet next year. :yikes: she going nom pay leave, I asked? Nah... She said. She would be clearing the rest of her mc entitlement of 30 days + extended mc of 10 days + 13 days of annual leave brought forward from last year. Wah..... I was concerned, was she erm... Sick? She said no, all she did was to ask her doc to issue letter for her weak knees.
Well done. Win hands down. I pity her team.

If she is caught overseas or engaged in some activities that a \"sick\" person shouldn't be doing.. then gxgx liao..

what is gxgx?

This old bird sure knows her games.... she wont be caught overseas on those days when she's on mc de....oh..... what about being seen in sentosa RWS???? 😆

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/886749https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/886749Tue, 30 Oct 2012 07:23:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is your workplace pro-family? on Tue, 30 Oct 2012 07:22:32 GMT]]>

Funz:
30 days MC entitlement? Wow your company very good. Thought the norm was 14 days. And I must say your company is really lax with the leave approval or is it that easy to obtain necessary document proof for the specified leave.

Those are the very very old staff, who have been with the organisation for a long long time (probably before I was even born!). Over the decades, the organisation did some revamp. These days, very few of us are on the 30day mc scheme.

Oh ya boi, I definitely agree that my organisation certainly need to tighten the leave approval procedure. But on the other hand, I believe it is not too difficult to get the ‘necessary document’. It’s a matter of personal integrity I guess.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/886748https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/886748Tue, 30 Oct 2012 07:22:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is your workplace pro-family? on Tue, 30 Oct 2012 07:18:30 GMT]]>

nms1:

And people like this will still complain! Do they not realise that in the long run the company suffers and so do they if bad times hit.

We are not allowed to carry over more than 5 days annual leave and we are expected to plan out how we are going to take our leave across the year. If any member of my team consistently used up all their MC entitlement every year I would be worried. I have been working in Singapore for 14 years and probably still haven't used up one year's entitlement!
chill nms1... I understand what you are pointing out but seriously, these people wont realise that. why? because they have been doing it for donkey years!

It is good that companies formalise leave planning or something along the line. This reminds me of yet another case. Two years ago, this colleague was pregnant and due to give birth in Dec. In her team, there’s a peer and a team lead. Team lead said she wanted to clear all her 25 days leave in end nov/whole dec because her kids would be havign school holidays. That peer, although single, also wanted to clear his leave for the whole of Dec. This pregnant lady was very worried. Who would be covering her, when her only peer and her boss were both so insisted going on leave when she would be due?

Companies/management need to look into such cases. In my opinion, the team lead ought to be shot. Then followed by the peer. As a team lead, she shd lead by example. Her subordinate was delivering soon, not something unexpected or something in which there could be flexibility in the timeline.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/886742https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/886742Tue, 30 Oct 2012 07:18:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is your workplace pro-family? on Tue, 30 Oct 2012 02:20:02 GMT]]>

straffan23:


Every morning, I drop my daughter off at the nursery near my workplace. Some mornings are happy, some starts with tears. Just like my daughter's mood, on some mornings, the traffic on the expressways are better on certain days, worse on others. And when we reach the nursery, sometimes it is what is expected, sometimes there is a long queue. Today was one of those mornings that didn't start as well as it should be. I ended up being 10 minutes late; arriving at 8:40am instead of the required 8:30am. :yikes:

And for this, I was reprimanded by the manager. When I wanted to explain, I was essentially told that punctuality (or the lack of, rather) is not tolerable, if I cannot be on time everyday, I should apply to come in 15mins late and end 15mins later. I wonder what got into me - the dam just shattered and I found myself crying! 😢

Perhaps because I try so hard? And if I have tried so hard and sometimes still end up being a worldly 10 minutes late, I am reprimanded such? :siao: These are the days that I really feel like quitting - why bother trying so hard? I'm sure my daughter doesn't appreciate being chased out of the bed / door every morning! On days like this I wonder why I even try at all... :stupid: Am I working with the wrong people? Or perhaps if I cannot be on time I shouldn't even be working at all? So if my boss has a deadline do I even bother staying late? Maybe I should asked to be paid OT by the minute? :mad: :mad: :mad:
My current company don't care if you late or not.. just \"make up\" the same amount can already. E.g. 10mins late, go back 10mins later. End of story. no need explain, no need approve. Staff need to punch card so all the timings are captured.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/886470https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/886470Tue, 30 Oct 2012 02:20:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is your workplace pro-family? on Tue, 30 Oct 2012 02:14:09 GMT]]>

Imami:


I had a good lesson today. Met an old bird of my organization. She just got her long service award of 35years. Well done, right?

She told me she would be clearing her leave soon and that we would meet next year. :yikes: she going nom pay leave, I asked? Nah... She said. She would be clearing the rest of her mc entitlement of 30 days + extended mc of 10 days + 13 days of annual leave brought forward from last year. Wah..... I was concerned, was she erm... Sick? She said no, all she did was to ask her doc to issue letter for her weak knees.
Well done. Win hands down. I pity her team.
If she is caught overseas or engaged in some activities that a \"sick\" person shouldn't be doing.. then gxgx liao..

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/886462https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/886462Tue, 30 Oct 2012 02:14:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is your workplace pro-family? on Tue, 30 Oct 2012 01:47:45 GMT]]>30 days MC entitlement? Wow your company very good. Thought the norm was 14 days. And I must say your company is really lax with the leave approval or is it that easy to obtain necessary document proof for the specified leave.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/886440https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/886440Tue, 30 Oct 2012 01:47:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is your workplace pro-family? on Tue, 30 Oct 2012 01:18:00 GMT]]>

Imami:
SarChar:

She would be clearing the rest of her mc entitlement of 30 days + extended mc of 10 days + 13 days of annual leave brought forward from last year. Wah..... I was concerned, was she erm... Sick? She said no, all she did was to ask her doc to issue letter for her weak knees.

Well done. Win hands down. I pity her team.

She has the cheek to tell you?! These people are strange right? So she has not used any of her annual leave for this year if she is clearing from last yr?!

:rotflmao: chill chill... It's quite an unspoken norm here - clear this year's mc, then this year's misc leave (eg exam leave, chilcdare leave, bday leave, parent care leave, study leave, leave in lieu etc), then last year's annual leave.... Still not enough, then extended mc. Leave this year's annual leave untouched. 😄[/quote]

And people like this will still complain! Do they not realise that in the long run the company suffers and so do they if bad times hit.

We are not allowed to carry over more than 5 days annual leave and we are expected to plan out how we are going to take our leave across the year. If any member of my team consistently used up all their MC entitlement every year I would be worried. I have been working in Singapore for 14 years and probably still haven't used up one year's entitlement!

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/886427https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/886427Tue, 30 Oct 2012 01:18:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is your workplace pro-family? on Tue, 30 Oct 2012 00:51:05 GMT]]>

SarChar:
She would be clearing the rest of her mc entitlement of 30 days + extended mc of 10 days + 13 days of annual leave brought forward from last year. Wah..... I was concerned, was she erm... Sick? She said no, all she did was to ask her doc to issue letter for her weak knees.

Well done. Win hands down. I pity her team.
She has the cheek to tell you?! These people are strange right? So she has not used any of her annual leave for this year if she is clearing from last yr?![/quote]
:rotflmao: chill chill... It's quite an unspoken norm here - clear this year's mc, then this year's misc leave (eg exam leave, chilcdare leave, bday leave, parent care leave, study leave, leave in lieu etc), then last year's annual leave.... Still not enough, then extended mc. Leave this year's annual leave untouched. 😄

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/886405https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/886405Tue, 30 Oct 2012 00:51:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is your workplace pro-family? on Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:07:55 GMT]]>She would be clearing the rest of her mc entitlement of 30 days + extended mc of 10 days + 13 days of annual leave brought forward from last year. Wah… I was concerned, was she erm… Sick? She said no, all she did was to ask her doc to issue letter for her weak knees.

Well done. Win hands down. I pity her team.[/quote]

She has the cheek to tell you?! These people are strange right? So she has not used any of her annual leave for this year if she is clearing from last yr?!

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/886246https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/886246Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:07:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is your workplace pro-family? on Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:36:52 GMT]]>[quote]Imagine once I heard Colleague A said she would have 40 days leave next yr. She meant \"20 days leave + MC 14 days + 6 days Child Leave\" to me. Really got such people okie :yikes:
[/quote]yes, horrible, isn't it

Really wonder which doctor they go to. Is it they buy a season pass or MC booklet beforehand.... 😆[/quote]

I had a good lesson today. Met an old bird of my organization. She just got her long service award of 35years. Well done, right?

She told me she would be clearing her leave soon and that we would meet next year. :yikes: she going nom pay leave, I asked? Nah... She said. She would be clearing the rest of her mc entitlement of 30 days + extended mc of 10 days + 13 days of annual leave brought forward from last year. Wah..... I was concerned, was she erm... Sick? She said no, all she did was to ask her doc to issue letter for her weak knees.
Well done. Win hands down. I pity her team.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/886228https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/886228Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:36:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is your workplace pro-family? on Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:53:36 GMT]]>

Funz:
Joule:

[quote=\"SarChar\"]
Imagine once I heard Colleague A said she would have 40 days leave next yr. She meant \"20 days leave + MC 14 days + 6 days Child Leave\" to me. Really got such people okie :yikes:

yes, horrible, isn't it

Really wonder which doctor they go to. Is it they buy a season pass or MC booklet beforehand.... 😆

And they play punk. Leave not approved, on the day that they applied for that leave, they will say they not well, got MC.[/quote]Colleague A went on MC on last Monday and today again becos her husband is on leave today. Isnt it obvious?! So someone needs to do her work today! Next wk she is going for 2 wks vacation.....She has no more leave so resort to taking MC now.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/886211https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/886211Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:53:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is your workplace pro-family? on Tue, 23 Oct 2012 02:21:54 GMT]]>

straffan23:
Coolkidsrock2:

Channel News Asia just reported that OCBC announced that they will be granting staff (minimum 5 years tenure with them) sabbatical leave for PSLE preparation. :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah:


Hope more corporations will be similarly enlightened and roll out similar work life balance initiative. :xedfingers:

It just goes to show, how much stress PSLE imposes on the parents and children! MOE should be ashamed! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

That is exactly what I said. Isn't something seriously wrong if people need to take time off work for their childrens' exams? Am I really expected to give up all my annual leave for 3 years for each of my children because the system is such that the preparation done in school is insufficient.

It's a great initiative on the part of OCBC but a sad reflection on our society.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/882112https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/882112Tue, 23 Oct 2012 02:21:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is your workplace pro-family? on Tue, 23 Oct 2012 00:36:43 GMT]]>

Coolkidsrock2:
Channel News Asia just reported that OCBC announced that they will be granting staff (minimum 5 years tenure with them) sabbatical leave for PSLE preparation. :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah:


Hope more corporations will be similarly enlightened and roll out similar work life balance initiative. :xedfingers:
It just goes to show, how much stress PSLE imposes on the parents and children! MOE should be ashamed! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/882026https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/882026Tue, 23 Oct 2012 00:36:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is your workplace pro-family? on Mon, 22 Oct 2012 15:20:37 GMT]]>Channel News Asia just reported that OCBC announced that they will be granting staff (minimum 5 years tenure with them) sabbatical leave for PSLE preparation. :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah:


Hope more corporations will be similarly enlightened and roll out similar work life balance initiative. :xedfingers:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/881919https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/881919Mon, 22 Oct 2012 15:20:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Is your workplace pro-family? on Mon, 22 Oct 2012 06:23:56 GMT]]>

leo:
2hotTOhandle:

Anyone working stat board? I wonder if it is a good idea to leave Pte sector for stat board? Will it be v different?? My current workplace is quite pro-family. I let my staff convert to pt basis as her son is taking O levels this yr. I was working pt too for 6 months after the birth of my DD2. I wonder if stat board can be flexible...


depends. better check on the stat board that u r eyeing. I work in a stat board and working past midnight at home and weekends are common. The good part is that we can work from home if required (provided your RO is OK and you have no meetings). Ditto with some people that I know who work in civil service.

Now I am thinking if I should go back to private sector because with my work-life-integration (integrate your work into your life), I had been neglecting DD and her studies 😛

i used to work for an MNC who promotes work-life balance via work from home.. i've had the same issues as you do..

am better off with my current employer now.. they also allow work from home, but the culture (people) have not totally adopted WFH yet.. and i have better work life balance here (for some reason).. as I am not expected to work after 7pm or early morning hours.. our global HQ is UK not US.. so that helps perhaps..

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