<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[What is wrong (or not wrong!) with the PAP nowadays?]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Since the Punggol East by-election is now history and that thread has gotten a bit unwieldy, I thought I should start a new one!<br /><br /><br />Post with a view to help them improve, or just to rant. Be constructive, or not. I don't think we care. But I hope that you will bear in mind that as kiasu parents, all we want is to make Singapore a better place for our children. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /> <br /><br />Let me start off with a broad rant (3Boys baiting here hee hee! :evil: <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f61e.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--disappointed" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="):" alt="😞" /><br /><br />(1) I think one of the main problem with the PAP nowadays is that they have allowed public trust in them, which took decades to build, to erode. High salaries, 'fixing' political opponents, AIM etc have eaten away at the voters' trust that PAP's policies are intended to benefit the people of Singapore and not themselves. So much so that nowadays whatever the government tries to do is met with cynicism and distrust. Yet, when I look at how some of our ministers have aged within a relatively short time of taking office, I cannot help but think that on the whole they still have the welfare of Singaporeans in their hearts. Is it merely a PR disaster?<br /><br />(2) The other problem I feel is that the PAP does not trust the voters. Hence, the various controls on the mainstream media, the funny electoral boundary lines, and perhaps even the so-called political tricks to 'fix the opposition'. Somehow, the voters, especially the young voters, are like little kids. Always crying for more candy and throwing inexplicable tantrums. But voters who are 50 years old and below are the products of the PAP's own education system. Do they not trust or even understand who they themselves nurtured and brought up?<br /><br />(3) And somewhere over the years, the PAP had become so obsessed with fiscal prudence that they had become bean counters. Everything must have a $ price to it. Everything must pay for itself or better yet, return a profit. Hence, MRT lines could only be built after the HDB flats in a new town are occupied and there is enough passenger load. The BTO prices of HDB flats must somehow be pegged to market rates for resale flats instead of household income. Building of new hospitals only begin when the existing ones have 90% occupancy rates (what do they think SGH and TTSH are with that kind of occupancy rates, hotels?) Wherever possible, everything must be tendered out to the lowest contractor. SAHMs (and SAHDs) do not add to the GDP numbers, so every household should be encouraged to have both parents working fulltime, otherwise it is a waste of their education. They have allowed themselves to become like Ebeneezer Scrooge - knowing the price of everything, but the value of nothing. Penny wise but pound foolish.<br /><br />(4) And all these came about because the PAP leadership allowed themselves to be separated from their grassroots. They have become so used to the top down approach of talking down to the citizens from the top and parachuting in scholars and other 'elite' types that they now have no idea how to handle an opposition party that decided to do things from the ground up instead.<br /><br />A caricature, perhaps? Or even complete bollocks? There is nothing wrong with the PAP. The problem lies with the childish voters. :spank:</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/50540/what-is-wrong-or-not-wrong-with-the-pap-nowadays</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 06:51:21 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/50540.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:08:13 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to What is wrong (or not wrong!) with the PAP nowadays? on Wed, 30 Jan 2013 10:12:08 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Sun_2010:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><br /><br />Probably I am older than her but what is age but just a few more circles around the sun  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /></blockquote></blockquote>Phew!  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f613.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--sweat" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":sweat:" alt="😓" />  Not a few more circles around the eyes ah.. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f606.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--laughing" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":laughing:" alt="😆" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949375</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949375</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[concern2]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 10:12:08 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to What is wrong (or not wrong!) with the PAP nowadays? on Wed, 30 Jan 2013 06:15:31 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Sun_2010:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><br /><br />Probably I am older than her but what is age but just a few more circles around the sun  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /></blockquote></blockquote>That depends on whether one is Venus or Mars..  :evil:<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949239</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949239</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[limlim]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 06:15:31 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to What is wrong (or not wrong!) with the PAP nowadays? on Wed, 30 Jan 2013 04:41:52 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>limlim:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>Nebbermind:</b><p>[quote=\"Sun_2010\"] <br /><br /><br /><span style="\&quot;font-size:">( reminds me of my mil.....)</span>  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /></p></blockquote></blockquote>Worth every bit of the extra effort in changing font size in order to read this! <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><p></p></blockquote>wow.... concern's age &gt;&gt; sun_2010's?  :evil:[/quote]Dun start the age war between the ladies...<br /><br />Probably I am older than her but what is age but just a few more circles around the sun  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949178</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949178</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sun_2010]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 04:41:52 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to What is wrong (or not wrong!) with the PAP nowadays? on Wed, 30 Jan 2013 04:41:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Sun_2010:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>concern2:</b><p>[quote=\"Sun_2010\"]<br />Thanks dear.<br />Habits are hard to break , yeah?  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f606.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--laughing" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":laughing:" alt="😆" /></p></blockquote></blockquote> <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f606.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--laughing" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":laughing:" alt="😆" />  :hi5:  :celebrate:<br />Altho....agreeing to disagree!  :laugh:<p></p></blockquote> :hugs: <br /><br />PS - I quite fancy your sense of humor in your posts  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":smile:" alt="😄" />[/quote] :hi5:  Takes 2 hands to clap!  :laugh:<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949177</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949177</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[concern2]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 04:41:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to What is wrong (or not wrong!) with the PAP nowadays? on Wed, 30 Jan 2013 04:39:17 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>concern2:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>Sun_2010:</b><p>[quote=\"concern2\"]  <br /><br />I am <b><b>not saying</b></b> posting of those photos are ok.  As mentioned, I have not even come across any of the gruesome photos mentioned.  So I am saying from my perspective.   His words 'especially online' made me sit up on defense.  Yes, I suppose  I should slow down in my comments and hold back my opinions a bit. <i><i> I suppose with a bigger population on the tiny island, we will have less of such ACCIDENTS from happening in the future</i></i>.</p></blockquote></blockquote>Thanks dear.<br />Habits are hard to break , yeah?  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f606.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--laughing" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":laughing:" alt="😆" /><p></p></blockquote> <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f606.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--laughing" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":laughing:" alt="😆" />  :hi5:  :celebrate:<br />Altho....agreeing to disagree!  :laugh:[/quote] :hugs: <br /><br />PS - I quite fancy your sense of humor in your posts  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":smile:" alt="😄" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949176</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949176</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sun_2010]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 04:39:17 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to What is wrong (or not wrong!) with the PAP nowadays? on Wed, 30 Jan 2013 04:29:42 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Nebbermind:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>Sun_2010:</b><p> <br /><br /><br /><span style="\&quot;font-size:">( reminds me of my mil.....)</span>  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /></p></blockquote></blockquote>Worth every bit of the extra effort in changing font size in order to read this! <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><p></p></blockquote>wow.... concern's age &gt;&gt; sun_2010's?  :evil:<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949172</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949172</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[limlim]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 04:29:42 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to What is wrong (or not wrong!) with the PAP nowadays? on Wed, 30 Jan 2013 04:02:17 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Sun_2010:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>concern2:</b><p>  <br /><br />I am <b><b>not saying</b></b> posting of those photos are ok.  As mentioned, I have not even come across any of the gruesome photos mentioned.  So I am saying from my perspective.   His words 'especially online' made me sit up on defense.  Yes, I suppose  I should slow down in my comments and hold back my opinions a bit. <i><i> I suppose with a bigger population on the tiny island, we will have less of such ACCIDENTS from happening in the future</i></i>.</p></blockquote></blockquote>Thanks dear.<br />Habits are hard to break , yeah?  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f606.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--laughing" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":laughing:" alt="😆" /><p></p></blockquote> <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f606.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--laughing" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":laughing:" alt="😆" />  :hi5:  :celebrate:<br />Altho....agreeing to disagree!  :laugh:<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949159</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949159</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[concern2]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 04:02:17 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to What is wrong (or not wrong!) with the PAP nowadays? on Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:58:38 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>concern2:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">  <br /><br />I am <b><b>not saying</b></b> posting of those photos are ok.  As mentioned, I have not even come across any of the gruesome photos mentioned.  So I am saying from my perspective.   His words 'especially online' made me sit up on defense.  Yes, I suppose  I should slow down in my comments and hold back my opinions a bit. <i><i> I suppose with a bigger population on the tiny island, we will have less of such ACCIDENTS from happening in the future</i></i>.</blockquote></blockquote>Thanks dear.<br />Habits are hard to break , yeah?  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f606.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--laughing" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":laughing:" alt="😆" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949155</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949155</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sun_2010]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:58:38 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to What is wrong (or not wrong!) with the PAP nowadays? on Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:54:45 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I believe that the PM meant to offer his condolences and prevent the forwarding of the photos. However, concern2's post reminds me of the time when Shanmugam said he would bring up the Delhi rape case as an example to Singaporeans who were against the mandatory death penalty.<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.stasiareport.com/the-big-story/asia-report/singapore/story/shanmugam-stresses-case-death-penalty-20121231">http://www.stasiareport.com/the-big-story/asia-report/singapore/story/shanmugam-stresses-case-death-penalty-20121231</a><br /><br />I feel that a condolence message should be short and sympathetic. There's no need to bring up other issues. I am glad the PM didn't take the opportunity to bring across his message about the Internet.</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949153</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949153</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mdm Koh]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:54:45 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to What is wrong (or not wrong!) with the PAP nowadays? on Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:52:04 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Dreamgear:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"> Baey is the MP there.... And he have also been very active on the ground. Tampines under HSK and baey is very different from the era of MBT and sin boon ann.... I would say that the opposition have somehow missed the chance in last election... If only it was wp instead of nsp....</blockquote></blockquote><br />If it's for the better of the (Tampines) society, it doesn't matter if it is WP or PAP.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949151</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949151</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nebbermind]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:52:04 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to What is wrong (or not wrong!) with the PAP nowadays? on Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:50:30 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>MMM:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>concern2:</b><p>Ok, since someone says we should not post political remarks on a sympathy page, I will post it here.  <br /><br /><br />I almost felt <b><b>PM was with us</b></b> when he expressed sympathy for the 2 boys who died in the accident in Tampines - until he had to add the remark about the online circulation of photos.  It makes me wonder about his real intention for mentioning it in the first place.  What other similar cases had he shown sympathy towards in the past?  He had just brought up the case of online communications and this case seems soooo suited to substantiate his ground.  <br /><br />Please, just express sympathy as sympathy and nothing else!  :mad:</p></blockquote></blockquote><span style="\&quot;color:">Moving my comments here (physically too).</span><br />I bought the chinese newspapers last night to read more about the accident. Got my kids to read it. Re-emphasized on importance of safety, gave them a hug and told them how sad we will be to lose them. So pls stay safe. I also read about the 12 year old boy which is also  <br /><br />However something caught my attention. It was the pictures of Baey and TSL. They were featured in both those case. Probably to show their involvement as MPs. I silently wondered to myself if that will be the trend going forward to show how engage our MPs are with our daily lives.<p></p></blockquote> :hugs:   It is not a bad move, actually.  Showing sympathy like everyone of us is a sign that the garmen is with us.  It is good.  Never say it is bad, horr...<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949148</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949148</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[concern2]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:50:30 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to What is wrong (or not wrong!) with the PAP nowadays? on Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:50:05 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>MMM:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>concern2:</b><p>Ok, since someone says we should not post political remarks on a sympathy page, I will post it here.  <br /><br /><br />I almost felt <b><b>PM was with us</b></b> when he expressed sympathy for the 2 boys who died in the accident in Tampines - until he had to add the remark about the online circulation of photos.  It makes me wonder about his real intention for mentioning it in the first place.  What other similar cases had he shown sympathy towards in the past?  He had just brought up the case of online communications and this case seems soooo suited to substantiate his ground.  <br /><br />Please, just express sympathy as sympathy and nothing else!  :mad:</p></blockquote></blockquote><span style="\&quot;color:">Moving my comments here (physically too).</span><br />I bought the chinese newspapers last night to read more about the accident. Got my kids to read it. Re-emphasized on importance of safety, gave them a hug and told them how sad we will be to lose them. So pls stay safe. I also read about the 12 year old boy which is also  <br /><br />However something caught my attention. It was the pictures of Baey and TSL. They were featured in both those case. Probably to show their involvement as MPs. I silently wondered to myself if that will be the trend going forward to show how engage our MPs are with our daily lives.<p></p></blockquote><br />Baey is the MP there.... And he have also been very active on the ground. Tampines under HSK and baey is very different from the era of MBT and sin boon ann.... I would say that the opposition have somehow missed the chance in last election... If only it was wp instead of nsp....<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949146</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949146</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dreamgear]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:50:05 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to What is wrong (or not wrong!) with the PAP nowadays? on Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:48:20 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Sun_2010:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>concern2:</b><p>Ok, since someone says we should not post political remarks on a sympathy page, I will post it here.  <br /><br /><br />I almost felt <b><b>PM was with us</b></b> when he expressed sympathy for the 2 boys who died in the accident in Tampines - until he had to add the remark about the online circulation of photos.  It makes me wonder about his real intention for mentioning it in the first place.  What other similar cases had he shown sympathy towards in the past?  He had just brought up the case of online communications and this case seems soooo suited to substantiate his ground.  <br /><br />Please, just express sympathy as sympathy and nothing else!  :mad:</p></blockquote></blockquote>Sorry you felt that way.<br /><br />Many bloggers have posted/twitted the same. Including mr.brown. And many agree that it is highly insensitive to post such photos. <br /><br />But maybe , just maybe, you need to check if you are only trying to finding fault at all costs. <br /><br /><span style="\&quot;font-size:">( reminds me of my mil.....)</span>  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><p></p></blockquote>I am <b><b>not saying</b></b> posting of those photos are ok.  As mentioned, I have not even come across any of the gruesome photos mentioned.  So I am saying from my perspective.   His words 'especially online' made me sit up on defense.  Yes, I suppose  I should slow down in my comments and hold back my opinions a bit.  I suppose with a bigger population on the tiny island, we will have less of such ACCIDENTS from happening in the future.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949145</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949145</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[concern2]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:48:20 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to What is wrong (or not wrong!) with the PAP nowadays? on Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:43:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Sun_2010:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"> <br /><br /><br /><span style="\&quot;font-size:">( reminds me of my mil.....)</span>  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /></blockquote></blockquote>Worth every bit of the extra effort in changing font size in order to read this! <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949141</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949141</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nebbermind]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:43:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to What is wrong (or not wrong!) with the PAP nowadays? on Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:42:39 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>concern2:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">Ok, since someone says we should not post political remarks on a sympathy page, I will post it here.  <br /><br /><br />I almost felt <b><b>PM was with us</b></b> when he expressed sympathy for the 2 boys who died in the accident in Tampines - until he had to add the remark about the online circulation of photos.  It makes me wonder about his real intention for mentioning it in the first place.  What other similar cases had he shown sympathy towards in the past?  He had just brought up the case of online communications and this case seems soooo suited to substantiate his ground.  <br /><br />Please, just express sympathy as sympathy and nothing else!  :mad:</blockquote></blockquote><span style="\&quot;color:">Moving my comments here (physically too).</span><br />I bought the chinese newspapers last night to read more about the accident. Got my kids to read it. Re-emphasized on importance of safety, gave them a hug and told them how sad we will be to lose them. So pls stay safe. I also read about the 12 year old boy which is also  <br /><br />However something caught my attention. It was the pictures of Baey and TSL. They were featured in both those case. Probably to show their involvement as MPs. I silently wondered to myself if that will be the trend going forward to show how engage our MPs are with our daily lives.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949139</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949139</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[MMM]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:42:39 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to What is wrong (or not wrong!) with the PAP nowadays? on Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:42:25 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">When you doubt the sincerity of a person…whatever you read, you will be able to find something to criticise…<br /><br /><br />Don’t try to read too much between the lines…</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949138</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949138</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Iluvmygals]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:42:25 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to What is wrong (or not wrong!) with the PAP nowadays? on Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:41:36 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>concern2:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">Ok, since someone says we should not post political remarks on a sympathy page, I will post it here.  <br /><br /><br />I almost felt <b><b>PM was with us</b></b> when he expressed sympathy for the 2 boys who died in the accident in Tampines - until he had to add the remark about the online circulation of photos.  It makes me wonder about his real intention for mentioning it in the first place.  What other similar cases had he shown sympathy towards in the past?  He had just brought up the case of online communications and this case seems soooo suited to substantiate his ground.  <br /><br />Please, just express sympathy as sympathy and nothing else!  :mad:</blockquote></blockquote>Sorry you felt that way.<br /><br />Many bloggers have posted/twitted the same. Including mr.brown. And many agree that it is highly insensitive to post such photos. <br /><br />But maybe , just maybe, you need to check if you are only trying to finding fault at all costs. <br /><br /><span style="\&quot;font-size:">( reminds me of my mil.....)</span>  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949137</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949137</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sun_2010]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:41:36 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to What is wrong (or not wrong!) with the PAP nowadays? on Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:40:35 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>3Boys:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>concern2:</b><p>Ok, since someone says we should not post political remarks on a sympathy page, I will post it here.  <br /><br /><br />I almost felt <b><b>PM was with us</b></b> when he expressed sympathy for the 2 boys who died in the accident in Tampines - until he had to add the remark about the online circulation of photos.  It makes me wonder about his real intention for mentioning it in the first place.  What other similar cases had he shown sympathy towards in the past?  He had just brought up the case of online communications and this case seems soooo suited to substantiate his ground.  <br /><br />Please, just express sympathy as sympathy and nothing else!  :mad:</p></blockquote></blockquote>Sorry, where you are looking for something to criticise, you will always find something to criticise. He asked for sensitivity to the parents plight, what's wrong with that? <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f937.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--shrug" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":shrug:" alt="🤷" /><p></p></blockquote>Nevermind if you find it ok.  Maybe it is just me.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949136</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949136</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[concern2]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:40:35 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to What is wrong (or not wrong!) with the PAP nowadays? on Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:37:52 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>concern2:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">Ok, since someone says we should not post political remarks on a sympathy page, I will post it here.  <br /><br /><br />I almost felt <b><b>PM was with us</b></b> when he expressed sympathy for the 2 boys who died in the accident in Tampines - until he had to add the remark about the online circulation of photos.  It makes me wonder about his real intention for mentioning it in the first place.  What other similar cases had he shown sympathy towards in the past?  He had just brought up the case of online communications and this case seems soooo suited to substantiate his ground.  <br /><br />Please, just express sympathy as sympathy and nothing else!  :mad:</blockquote></blockquote>Sorry, where you are looking for something to criticise, you will always find something to criticise. He asked for sensitivity to the parents plight, what's wrong with that? <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f937.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--shrug" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":shrug:" alt="🤷" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949128</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949128</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[3Boys]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:37:52 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to What is wrong (or not wrong!) with the PAP nowadays? on Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:33:02 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>concern2:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">Ok, since someone says we should not post political remarks on a sympathy page, I will post it here.  <br /><br /><br />I almost felt <b><b>PM was with us</b></b> when he expressed sympathy for the 2 boys who died in the accident in Tampines - until he had to add the remark about the online circulation of photos.  It makes me wonder about his real intention for mentioning it in the first place.  What other similar cases had he shown sympathy towards in the past?  He had just brought up the case of online communications and this case seems soooo suited to substantiate his ground.  <br /><br />Please, just express sympathy as sympathy and nothing else!  :mad:</blockquote></blockquote>He wrote \"let us show sensitivity and respect to the family, especially online\".... Personally dont find anything wrong with that....<br />These 2 boys as well as the boy who fell in sengkeng are known to a lot of kids in tampines via fb or school ties, and the messages we are seeing even in these postings by the kids are also to get those photos down..... One cant be wrong if even the kids felt this way....<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949123</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949123</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dreamgear]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:33:02 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to What is wrong (or not wrong!) with the PAP nowadays? on Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:01:50 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Ok, since someone says we should not post political remarks on a sympathy page, I will post it here.  <br /><br /><br />I almost felt <b><b>PM was with us</b></b> when he expressed sympathy for the 2 boys who died in the accident in Tampines - until he had to add the remark about the online circulation of photos.  It makes me wonder about his real intention for mentioning it in the first place.  What other similar cases had he shown sympathy towards in the past?  He had just brought up the case of online communications and this case seems soooo suited to substantiate his ground.  <br /><br />Please, just express sympathy as sympathy and nothing else!  :mad:</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949088</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949088</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[concern2]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:01:50 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to What is wrong (or not wrong!) with the PAP nowadays? on Wed, 30 Jan 2013 02:50:55 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Dora1:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>concern2:</b><p>I wonder very often why qualified people from the grassroots within the PAP aren't put up as candidates - why ask some doctors from a different constituency?  Am sure there are worthy ones within the active grassroot pool, no?</p></blockquote></blockquote><br />It's the way the entire civil service works. The minions in the civil servants all have a glass ceiling no matter how good and hardworking you are, unless you are a scholar or \"the chosen one\". This is standard in the entire civil service. Top leaders are almost always parachuted from somewhere else, or someone who is on rocket track who was the \"chosen one\" to begin with.<p></p></blockquote>Ah...so desu neh...meteritokerasi neh!<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949079</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949079</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[concern2]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 02:50:55 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to What is wrong (or not wrong!) with the PAP nowadays? on Wed, 30 Jan 2013 01:50:59 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>WeiHan:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">legacy? I don't think so....<br /><br /><br />The leaders nowaday have the worst from both world.<br /><br />The old leaders can be seen as repressive but at least they are strong and decisive. The new leader arrive at questionable policies but at the same time is weak and undecisive.</blockquote></blockquote>You have short memory....  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949039</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949039</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[3Boys]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 01:50:59 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to What is wrong (or not wrong!) with the PAP nowadays? on Wed, 30 Jan 2013 01:27:04 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>concern2:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">I wonder very often why qualified people from the grassroots within the PAP aren't put up as candidates - why ask some doctors from a different constituency?  Am sure there are worthy ones within the active grassroot pool, no?</blockquote></blockquote><br />It's the way the entire civil service works. The minions in the civil servants all have a glass ceiling no matter how good and hardworking you are, unless you are a scholar or \"the chosen one\". This is standard in the entire civil service. Top leaders are almost always parachuted from somewhere else, or someone who is on rocket track who was the \"chosen one\" to begin with.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949015</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/949015</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dora1]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 01:27:04 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>