<![CDATA[Can teaching P2 and P4 in the same class work?]]>I’m curious. I hear my friends talking about wanting to try their kids at centres which teach say, P2s and P4s in the same class! Will it work? One of centres which is doing this has lessons that last only 1 h. I’m just imagining that when the tutor is teaching the P2s, the P4s have to do their own work… then when tutors are teaching the P4s, the P2s are doing their own work. If the P2s have questions, they can’t ask as the teacher is teaching and by the time they can ask, it’s time’s up.


Perhaps, the person who came up with this idea of a centre is not a trained teacher/have no kids and think that it’s an ideal world where kids just sit quietly to do assessment papers. Any views if such an arrangement will be effective?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/54148/can-teaching-p2-and-p4-in-the-same-class-workRSS for NodeThu, 07 May 2026 15:01:05 GMTSun, 07 Apr 2013 11:06:22 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Can teaching P2 and P4 in the same class work? on Fri, 05 Apr 2019 03:08:17 GMT]]>I think it is possible as long as the tutor is experienced.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905124https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1905124Fri, 05 Apr 2019 03:08:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can teaching P2 and P4 in the same class work? on Fri, 06 Mar 2015 13:05:07 GMT]]>I personally do not believe in 1-1 tuition unless the child is very weak and requires 1-1 coaching. Enrichment courses to challenge the child is a different story. Most of the time, the child needs some help in their school work so if there is someone (a parent, a sibling or a cousin etc) who could help when needs arise, that would be the best


As my dd is in upper secondary and the content of her school work is beyond us now, I do get tutors to provide help to my dd on an ad-hoc basis whenever my dd needs help. The help is irregular and need not be face to face. The help can be done via skype or whatsapp. As the income is not regular, not many tutors want to take up such last minutes assignments.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1473792https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1473792Fri, 06 Mar 2015 13:05:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can teaching P2 and P4 in the same class work? on Fri, 06 Mar 2015 12:06:57 GMT]]>

iRabbit:


I agree with you. Not being in a typical classroom type of enrichment means each child can progress at his own pace, and not be constrained by the general pace of the class.
If can progress at own pace, most likely donch need tuition in the first place 😆
these are the most sought after tutees!

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1473769https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1473769Fri, 06 Mar 2015 12:06:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can teaching P2 and P4 in the same class work? on Fri, 06 Mar 2015 10:39:29 GMT]]>

alng:
This is highly possible. The essence of education today is no longer knowledge/content based but skills based. One important skill is self learning. This is why the tutor could just show the child one example and get the child to try the other questions on his or her own and ask questions when in doubts. Kumon advocates self learning.


It does not do the child any good if you get a tutor to sit beside the child when the child attempts all the questions as this may lead to the child's dependence on the tutor. 1-1 tuition is good for weak students. What most students need is to have someone to guide them when they are in doubts.
I agree with you. Not being in a typical classroom type of enrichment means each child can progress at his own pace, and not be constrained by the general pace of the class.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1473756https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1473756Fri, 06 Mar 2015 10:39:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can teaching P2 and P4 in the same class work? on Thu, 05 Mar 2015 17:34:13 GMT]]>alng is a teacher ? She must be a very good teacher.


A good teacher teaches a student 'how to catch fish'.
A good teacher does not 'give the student a fish when the student asks for one'. Students who have learnt how to catch fish will not go hungry for a life time.

A good teacher teaches skills to handle different subjects , topics.
A good teacher teaches strategies.
A good teacher can pass on these skills and strategies to many students at the same time.

With skills and strategies, students become strong, independent, creative learners.

These skills and strategies are especially important to students going for higher/tertiary education later. At higher learning, you have to digest numerous super thick reference materials. That's why many students who fair well for primary and secondary cannot do well when they go JC's and Universities.

It is a good advantage to equip students with skills and strategies for learning. A teacher that teaches skills and strategies is hard to come by.
alng must be a very good teacher !!! :udawoman:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1473311https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1473311Thu, 05 Mar 2015 17:34:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can teaching P2 and P4 in the same class work? on Sun, 21 Dec 2014 06:40:03 GMT]]>This is highly possible. The essence of education today is no longer knowledge/content based but skills based. One important skill is self learning. This is why the tutor could just show the child one example and get the child to try the other questions on his or her own and ask questions when in doubts. Kumon advocates self learning.


It does not do the child any good if you get a tutor to sit beside the child when the child attempts all the questions as this may lead to the child’s dependence on the tutor. 1-1 tuition is good for weak students. What most students need is to have someone to guide them when they are in doubts.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1434814https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1434814Sun, 21 Dec 2014 06:40:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can teaching P2 and P4 in the same class work? on Sun, 21 Dec 2014 06:25:00 GMT]]>This will definitely not work out! What do you want your child to achieve at the end of the lesson? Save the money instead and put into solid tuition areas

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1434807https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1434807Sun, 21 Dec 2014 06:25:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can teaching P2 and P4 in the same class work? on Mon, 08 Apr 2013 11:55:36 GMT]]>To me , the tutor must be able to deliver regardless of her qualification . We often heard students complaining that the school teachers can t teach well , hence students cannot understand n therefore need to go for tutition .

More importantly , for the $ to be well spent, Parents , students n tutor must work together to see the result.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/982292https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/982292Mon, 08 Apr 2013 11:55:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can teaching P2 and P4 in the same class work? on Mon, 08 Apr 2013 10:10:57 GMT]]>In my opinion, it will not be effective tuition. I’m one of those ignorant moms who sent my kid to a centre like that in 2012. The centre has two pillars of teaching- a worksheet experience and a classroom experience. It was an experience, for sure. A terrible experience X 2. It should have dawn on me that it can’t work as the duration is just too short. Not exactly cheap at about $35 an hour. Not taught by former school teachers. At best, it’s for p1s. My child was in p3 and couldn’t do some questions even after the tutor has taught. He couldn’t ask as the tutor was teaching another level. And you know, model-drawing was more complex in p3. So seriously, although this centre my child attended has a "Seriously" in their name, all mothers should seriously have second thoughts. Otherwise, not only is money wasted, but time wasted too. This year, in my desperation, i looked into kiasu forum and read good reviews about some centres/tutors. I found a good ex-teacher and my child’s model-drawing etc is so much stronger now.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/982239https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/982239Mon, 08 Apr 2013 10:10:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can teaching P2 and P4 in the same class work? on Mon, 08 Apr 2013 00:10:09 GMT]]>

firefly38:
It IS possible.. Why not? An experienced tutor would certainly know how to do it, and do it all right.. 😄

This is similar to the 'one-room schoolhouse' in small communities where there aren't enough students and teachers to divide up into separate classrooms (think of \"Little House on the Prairie\" if you can remember it!). Homeschooling more than 1 child is the same. It is possible for it to work, and if cost is a consideration, it's not a bad way. A lot depends on the ability of the teacher to organise the work and maintain discipline, and it also helps students be more self-disciplined. Of course, if the intention is to have the teacher focus entirely on 1 child or 1 level throughout the session, then it's not suitable. For tuition, I would probably want more individual attention for my child, otherwise I might as well keep them at home.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/981833https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/981833Mon, 08 Apr 2013 00:10:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can teaching P2 and P4 in the same class work? on Sun, 07 Apr 2013 15:25:15 GMT]]>It IS possible.. Why not? An experienced tutor would certainly know how to do it, and do it all right.. 😄

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/981803https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/981803Sun, 07 Apr 2013 15:25:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can teaching P2 and P4 in the same class work? on Sun, 07 Apr 2013 15:09:42 GMT]]>For this tutor I mentioned , she takes in students from good to neighbor schools. Indeed , she only has sec4 qualification but she has a flair n passion for math. I will say not all are suitable under her method. But indeed she did help out a lot of students who have a thin budget . It’s a win win situation .

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/981799https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/981799Sun, 07 Apr 2013 15:09:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can teaching P2 and P4 in the same class work? on Sun, 07 Apr 2013 14:52:22 GMT]]>Have seen a maths tutor having kids from secondary school to JC in his living room across three tables. Basically the kids go there to do their homework, any questions ask him. It was a serious environment and most of the kids were motivated and from good schools. I can’t remember the fees but it wasn’t cheap because he was very respected.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/981797https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/981797Sun, 07 Apr 2013 14:52:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can teaching P2 and P4 in the same class work? on Sun, 07 Apr 2013 14:47:06 GMT]]>I have come across tutition where the tutor teaches math from k2 to sec 4 all under 1 roof . The fee is cheap . One n half hr is only $15 -20.

She will move around and show an eg to teach the child n then ask her to do the rest of the qns from the book . If have problem , queue to ask her . Otherwise , she will move back later to check if the kid has finished. For younger kids where the mum can also teach , she will explain to the mum and ask her to coach n make sure the homework is completed . She will teach in small group of 3 to 4 if the kid just started the tuition with her n ask her to come 2 times a week to drill n push .
For naughty kids that dont do n pay attention ,she will scold n complain to their mothers to push the children to do the work if they want to improve . Otherwise , she will ask the students to go. Her method n fee make it affordable to students who want to learn n mummies did not spend a bomb .

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/981796https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/981796Sun, 07 Apr 2013 14:47:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can teaching P2 and P4 in the same class work? on Sun, 07 Apr 2013 11:34:17 GMT]]>Kumon style? What kind of teaching style? Or they rely on worksheets self study like kumon?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/981720https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/981720Sun, 07 Apr 2013 11:34:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can teaching P2 and P4 in the same class work? on Sun, 07 Apr 2013 11:30:38 GMT]]>

TheAnswer:
Personally I won't put my son there. Neither will I advise anyone to put their kids there.


No kid can sit quietly in a classroom full of other kids and still do their work quietly.

I think such centers are only out to make money. In tuition centers, kids are already sharing the tutor's attention.
Thanks for your reply. Precisely. My sentiments exactly. How can such centres still talk people into signing up with them? I told my friends that 1.5 hours is the minimum. Anything less maybe is for K1/K2/P1. How can it be 1 hour 10 mins for P2 or worst, P4? 🤷 And to put kids from different levels together is a recipe for disaster no matter how expert the teacher is. And the centre's teacher is not even an ex-school teacher!

To think that they are opening up franchises and duping ignorant parents of their money.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/981718https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/981718Sun, 07 Apr 2013 11:30:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can teaching P2 and P4 in the same class work? on Sun, 07 Apr 2013 11:22:24 GMT]]>I am a tutor myself. I know it isn’t easy to manage a class of students even if they are of the same level. To manage 2 levels at one go. No way.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/981717https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/981717Sun, 07 Apr 2013 11:22:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can teaching P2 and P4 in the same class work? on Sun, 07 Apr 2013 11:19:20 GMT]]>Personally I won’t put my son there. Neither will I advise anyone to put their kids there.


No kid can sit quietly in a classroom full of other kids and still do their work quietly.

I think such centers are only out to make money. In tuition centers, kids are already sharing the tutor’s attention.

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