Compensation on maid off day

Reply to Compensation on maid off day on Wed, 08 Sep 2021 04:44:49 GMT

sky minecrafter — Wed, 08 Sep 2021 04:44:49 GMT

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...According to MOM's website, \"1 day’s salary can be calculated by dividing her monthly salary by 26 working days, as there are typically 4 weeks and therefore 4 rest days in a month.\"

But how to calculate when there are 5 rest days in a month?...
...Example:
If a helper is paid $650 per mth, it means she is paid $25 per day for 26 days.
If she works on 4 Sun ie no rest days in a mth which has 4 Sun, then she gets $650 plus 4 x $25.
If she works 5 Sun, then she will be paid $650 plus 5 x $25.

Any advice from other mums who have a helper?...

That's how we calculate too, starlight. It doesn't matter how many rest days there are in a particular month, as long as it is a rest day which she works, we will pay that day 1day's salary

Reply to Compensation on maid off day on Wed, 08 Sep 2021 02:28:32 GMT

starlight1968sg — Wed, 08 Sep 2021 02:28:32 GMT

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Hi,

According to MOM's website, \"1 day’s salary can be calculated by dividing her monthly salary by 26 working days, as there are typically 4 weeks and therefore 4 rest days in a month.\"

But how to calculate when there are 5 rest days in a month?

TIA

Example:
If a helper is paid $650 per mth, it means she is paid $25 per day for 26 days.
If she works on 4 Sun ie no rest days in a mth which has 4 Sun, then she gets $650 plus 4 x $25.
If she works 5 Sun, then she will be paid $650 plus 5 x $25.

Any advice from other mums who have a helper?

Reply to Compensation on maid off day on Wed, 08 Sep 2021 02:21:54 GMT

jacsplace — Wed, 08 Sep 2021 02:21:54 GMT

Hi,

According to MOM’s website, "1 day’s salary can be calculated by dividing her monthly salary by 26 working days, as there are typically 4 weeks and therefore 4 rest days in a month."

But how to calculate when there are 5 rest days in a month?

TIA

Reply to Compensation on maid off day on Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:22:41 GMT

moonee — Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:22:41 GMT

My maid is given 4 off days a month. She started going out with her relatives and leaves at 10am and back home at 5.30pm, now she started going out with some other maids at lucky plaza and comes back at 8.35pm. She says she followed her maid friend with a bangla bf to bedok. err… think she may land upin bedok reservoir if she continue going with this group. Oh, she love banglas and is kind of wild. Just thinking whether I should sign her a third transfer or send her back when she gets too out of hand.

Reply to Compensation on maid off day on Thu, 13 Jun 2013 06:10:20 GMT

Nebbermind — Thu, 13 Jun 2013 06:10:20 GMT

POA Teacher:
Oh yeah? My maid says she doesn't want the weekly day-off. Similarly, her friends too.

So stay at home and rest, and go outing with friends ~ once a month.
Employers don't need them to work those days. But the maids don't want to waste $$$ on too frequent outings.

Well, if she is expected to be out of the house during that time, then perhaps that would explain why they donch need the day-ff.

Reply to Compensation on maid off day on Thu, 13 Jun 2013 06:01:54 GMT

Funz — Thu, 13 Jun 2013 06:01:54 GMT

If it is their choice not to go out, we are not liable to pay them for those days that they stay in. But if we specifically need them to work on their off days we have to compensate them.

As of last year, my maid is free to go off every Sunday. We discussed and it was decided that she will embark on some courses conducted at a mosque. Currently she is learning sewing, after this course ends, she will be learning basic computer literacy. The classes are conducted on alternate Sundays. The other Sundays, she stays in. She will still help around the house when she is in but I am not compensating her for those days.

Reply to Compensation on maid off day on Thu, 13 Jun 2013 05:54:29 GMT

POA Teacher — Thu, 13 Jun 2013 05:54:29 GMT

Nebbermind:
POA Teacher:
Actually many maids do not want to have a weekly day off. They prefer just once or twice a month. Cos they feel the pinch in their pockets when they take too many days off. They'd rather stay home and work for extra $, or just rest.

The ones with bfs or moonlighting are a different matter though.
Wrong! If there isn't the off-day, then they will have to work everyday at the same pay. With off-day, they work fewer days at same pay, and can earn extra if needed on those off-days.

Oh yeah? My maid says she doesn't want the weekly day-off. Similarly, her friends too.
So stay at home and rest, and go outing with friends ~ once a month.
Employers don't need them to work those days. But the maids don't want to waste $$$ on too frequent outings.

Reply to Compensation on maid off day on Thu, 13 Jun 2013 04:42:27 GMT

Nebbermind — Thu, 13 Jun 2013 04:42:27 GMT

POA Teacher:
Actually many maids do not want to have a weekly day off. They prefer just once or twice a month. Cos they feel the pinch in their pockets when they take too many days off. They'd rather stay home and work for extra $, or just rest.

The ones with bfs or moonlighting are a different matter though.

Wrong! If there isn't the off-day, then they will have to work everyday at the same pay. With off-day, they work fewer days at same pay, and can earn extra if needed on those off-days.

Reply to Compensation on maid off day on Wed, 12 Jun 2013 11:05:15 GMT

POA Teacher — Wed, 12 Jun 2013 11:05:15 GMT

straffan23:
avo7007:
[quote=\"Hiaweh\"]The option to compensate them for their off days is whether the employer need them or not on their off days. If not I don't see y employers should compensate even if employer willing to give off days.

I am confuse about situation whereby my help want to stay home and work, and I want her to go out and play. What is the guideline?

This is my situation - my maid has one official off-day per month. When the new ruling was announced, she told me she will take the money (not the leave). To which I told her, I don't need her on weekends. She is free to take the leave... in the end she decided to stay home and keep to her once-a-month off-days... (no compensation).[/quote]This is exactly what is laid out by MOM. The extra payment is only payable if the employer asks the FDW to give up her day off. The only choice the maid has is to accede to / not accede to the employer's request. It is not for the maid to decide that she wants to work for extra pay if the employer does not request it.

Reply to Compensation on maid off day on Wed, 12 Jun 2013 09:07:33 GMT

shanshan — Wed, 12 Jun 2013 09:07:33 GMT

Thanks Halimah for her nonsense policy. Her kindness will be greatly appreciated by all of us, busy working mums

Reply to Compensation on maid off day on Tue, 04 Jun 2013 08:33:27 GMT

POA Teacher — Tue, 04 Jun 2013 08:33:27 GMT

Actually many maids do not want to have a weekly day off. They prefer just once or twice a month. Cos they feel the pinch in their pockets when they take too many days off. They’d rather stay home and work for extra $, or just rest.

The ones with bfs or moonlighting are a different matter though.

Reply to Compensation on maid off day on Tue, 04 Jun 2013 07:14:08 GMT

Maxine — Tue, 04 Jun 2013 07:14:08 GMT

Maybe your helper has nowhere to go or not that many friends thats why she doesnt want to go off. My helper is with me for 5 years and she still under old WP rules. Currently I give her off 2 times a month. Next year renew her WP I have to give her off every week. I did ask her if she wants to go off every week next year and she said \"Where to go??\" LOL! She has friends but she is quiet and prefers to stay home. She said go anywhere also crowded esp Orchard/Lucky plaza :yikes:

Reply to Compensation on maid off day on Tue, 04 Jun 2013 05:45:57 GMT

avo7007 — Tue, 04 Jun 2013 05:45:57 GMT

Thanks for all the feedback. It's strange that I have to persuade my help to take her off days. I always assume that they prefer to have weekly off day. :scratchhead:

Reply to Compensation on maid off day on Tue, 04 Jun 2013 03:48:40 GMT

Maxine — Tue, 04 Jun 2013 03:48:40 GMT

Actually new ruling is only enforced when Work permits are issued in year 2013 onwards. So if your maid is under old contract (prior to 2013) its the same till work permit expires. Only when you renew her WP from 2013 onwards then new rules are enforced. Thats why most helpers now prefer to restart with new employers from year 2013 onwards so they have off day weekly.

Reply to Compensation on maid off day on Tue, 04 Jun 2013 00:57:50 GMT

straffan23 — Tue, 04 Jun 2013 00:57:50 GMT

fcmaid:

Contract done before the new ruling will remain in force until it finishes.

Technically... but MOM (Ministry of Maids) sent a note to all employers to be nice and talk to the maids to reach mutual agreement re off-days...

Reply to Compensation on maid off day on Mon, 03 Jun 2013 10:28:07 GMT

fcmaid — Mon, 03 Jun 2013 10:28:07 GMT

straffan23:
avo7007:
[quote=\"Hiaweh\"]The option to compensate them for their off days is whether the employer need them or not on their off days. If not I don't see y employers should compensate even if employer willing to give off days.

I am confuse about situation whereby my help want to stay home and work, and I want her to go out and play. What is the guideline?

Reply to Compensation on maid off day on Mon, 03 Jun 2013 09:41:45 GMT

straffan23 — Mon, 03 Jun 2013 09:41:45 GMT

avo7007:
Hiaweh:
The option to compensate them for their off days is whether the employer need them or not on their off days. If not I don't see y employers should compensate even if employer willing to give off days.

I am confuse about situation whereby my help want to stay home and work, and I want her to go out and play. What is the guideline?

Reply to Compensation on maid off day on Mon, 03 Jun 2013 09:37:39 GMT

Maxine — Mon, 03 Jun 2013 09:37:39 GMT

avo7007:
Hiaweh:
The option to compensate them for their off days is whether the employer need them or not on their off days. If not I don't see y employers should compensate even if employer willing to give off days.

I am confuse about situation whereby my help want to stay home and work, and I want her to go out and play. What is the guideline?

Maybe you have to compromise with her instead. There are 4 Sundays usually in a month so she can have 2 weeks alternate off and 2 Sundays to work and you compensate her???

MOM leaves it to the employer and FDW to negotiate how the off day is required. They wont tell you what you should do. They always say the employer and maid must have mutual understanding and agreement.

Reply to Compensation on maid off day on Mon, 03 Jun 2013 09:15:41 GMT

fcmaid — Mon, 03 Jun 2013 09:15:41 GMT

avo7007:
Hiaweh:
The option to compensate them for their off days is whether the employer need them or not on their off days. If not I don't see y employers should compensate even if employer willing to give off days.

I am confuse about situation whereby my help want to stay home and work, and I want her to go out and play. What is the guideline?

Some maids want to earn more and are willing to stay home and work while some are afraid to go out.

Ultimately, in the beginning you need to specify the total salary that you are giving.

Reply to Compensation on maid off day on Mon, 03 Jun 2013 08:56:40 GMT

avo7007 — Mon, 03 Jun 2013 08:56:40 GMT

Hiaweh:
The option to compensate them for their off days is whether the employer need them or not on their off days. If not I don't see y employers should compensate even if employer willing to give off days.

I am confuse about situation whereby my help want to stay home and work, and I want her to go out and play. What is the guideline?

Reply to Compensation on maid off day on Fri, 03 May 2013 13:57:06 GMT

Hiaweh — Fri, 03 May 2013 13:57:06 GMT

The option to compensate them for their off days is whether the employer need them or not on their off days. If not I don’t see y employers should compensate even if employer willing to give off days.

Reply to Compensation on maid off day on Fri, 03 May 2013 09:10:56 GMT

germainemummy — Fri, 03 May 2013 09:10:56 GMT

My maid have no off day, every month i have to pay additional $70. hope these help :thankyou:

Reply to Compensation on maid off day on Fri, 03 May 2013 09:10:09 GMT

fcmaid — Fri, 03 May 2013 09:10:09 GMT

miu0075:
Hi,

Pls help to advise on how to calculate the off day compensation to Indo maid. My agency said is $17 per Sunday. So if a month have 4 sunday means multiply 4 and multiply 5 if there is 5 sunday on that month.
Is this true ?
Her basic is $450
thanks.

http://www.mom.gov.sg/Documents/MPE%20Publications/fdw-weekly-rest-day.pdf

your FDW has to be paid at least one day’s wage for each rest day forgone. The FDW’s daily wage is calculated by dividing her monthly salary by 26 working days, as there are typically 4 weeks (and therefore 4 rest days) in a month.

It should be more than $17.31 per off day.

Reply to Compensation on maid off day on Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:05:38 GMT

dimsum — Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:05:38 GMT

The calculation formula is stated in MOM regulations act.

As per Fourth Schedule, Employment of Foreign Manpower (Work Passes) Regulations 2012" Para 14d)
"in calculating the rate of pay for one day’s work under paragraph 13(b)(ii), the rate of pay for one day’s work shall be the foreign employee’s monthly rate of pay divided by 26"

So what your agency told you is right.