<![CDATA[Family skips on rent, turns violent and resist arrest]]>On the other hand, I’m glad this came out in the papers and hopefully the relevant authorities can pick it up and work on them. It seems they are a family in need of help very urgently. And there are very different kind of people out there, simply because of the different experiences and circumstances they are in. And many a times, things that are obvious to us and foreign to others. And especially kids are so impressionable that could be the reason why the kids behaved in that manner to the police- because they were treated in the way before?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/57041/family-skips-on-rent-turns-violent-and-resist-arrestRSS for NodeSat, 09 May 2026 19:14:38 GMTTue, 11 Jun 2013 08:13:14 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Family skips on rent, turns violent and resist arrest on Tue, 11 Jun 2013 01:30:49 GMT]]>I suspect the mother simply didn’t enroll the kids into a new school after they moved five years ago, and not that she formally withdrew them from the system in the first place. From the little that was reported, it is quite clear that she is not aware of the latest regulations for legal homeschooling, which is impossible if one had done the proper procedures. Moe is very strict with homeschooling now. A case like hers would have the exemption revoked right away.


Anyway i would think it is not really about education for her but living without accountability. Homeschooling is likely just a convenient excuse, much like the stray dogs and the need to rent landed property.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017401https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017401Tue, 11 Jun 2013 01:30:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Family skips on rent, turns violent and resist arrest on Tue, 11 Jun 2013 00:18:34 GMT]]>

janet_lee88:
Honestly, I fail to understand how the mum could possibly take her kids out fm school. An education is very important.

Homeschooling can be a good option for some kids. It's not my first choice for my family although we have done quite a bit, but I know some for whom homeschooling has worked well. School is not the only way to get an education. However, this family doesn't seem to have actually done very much, or at least, the media has not said very much about it.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017376https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017376Tue, 11 Jun 2013 00:18:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Family skips on rent, turns violent and resist arrest on Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:38:45 GMT]]>It is indeed very painful to handcuff any kid…the humiliation is going to stay with them for a long time. But I guess the police officers had no choice at that moment.


This is tough for a parent to witness…but it also serves as a lesson to some degree…I always tell my kids…if I fail to discipline, the law will do so and that will be very embarrassing if their faces are splashed on newspapers.

Honestly, I fail to understand how the mum could possibly take her kids out fm school. An education is very important.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017286https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017286Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:38:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Family skips on rent, turns violent and resist arrest on Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:48:25 GMT]]>The kid may be young but he is violent. Those kids were really quite violent in the video footages. Where there is violence, sometimes it takes a few adults to subdue even a child.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017248https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017248Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:48:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Family skips on rent, turns violent and resist arrest on Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:05:07 GMT]]>The police should not have used force against the 3 unarmed teenagers.

They look like commando storming the house.

That poor little 12 year old boy didn’t do anything, yet he is handcuff by plain clothes policeman.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017234https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017234Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:05:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Family skips on rent, turns violent and resist arrest on Mon, 10 Jun 2013 07:46:02 GMT]]>I can't imagine what kind of adults they will become if they dare to challenge the authorities at such a young age?? All 3 need serious counselling. It pains me to read that the 12-yr old (same age as my son) needed to be handcuffed during the arrest. Maybe it is better for the children to be separated from the mother for a while....as a last resort?


I am curious to know why the children were arrested instead of their mother? cos they were violent? :scratchhead:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017130https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017130Mon, 10 Jun 2013 07:46:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Family skips on rent, turns violent and resist arrest on Mon, 10 Jun 2013 07:05:33 GMT]]>

Coolkidsrock2:
They need to want to be helped in order for the relevant authorities to help them. Based on public information, the family may not want to be helped. Also, saw some TV footages of the family. Kids appear to be violent.

If the mother doesn't put them in school, something is wrong somewhere...primary school education is not easy...not to mention higher levels...if money is an issue, I believe MOE does have some financial assistance for the needy...but the family doesn't seem needy if mother rents a terrace or semi-D. What will the children do when they grow up without education?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017113https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017113Mon, 10 Jun 2013 07:05:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Family skips on rent, turns violent and resist arrest on Mon, 10 Jun 2013 06:19:02 GMT]]>

atrecord:
Now after reading more from news and here, it's really worrying that such 'tenants' are on the prowl for another place to rent...

Those housing agents & landlords should register their face in the database. No joke to rent out to tenants like that.... really scary

If as suggested organisations like MOE/MCYS had lost them, it could only be possible if their address in the National database is incorrect, which I think is against the law...
Some people don't take the effort to change their NRIC address. When we took over the house, we were receiving letters for ex-tenants of the previous landlord. It includes letters from traffic police and other government bodies and for \"newly committed\" offences. We called and wrote to TP, etc.. on several occassions and told them that the person don't stay at the address anymore. I wonder what happened but it's been awhile since we last received letters for the person. To me, such should be the trigger point.

If they follow the right procedure when renting, I feel that with the stamping of tenancy agreement at IRAS, the government should have a integrated system to track down the new location of the person unless of course she is not renting in her name? Similarly for people who are using their rented out property for P1 registration (separate issue), the same logic should apply. But maybe MOE does not have time to play detective...

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017099https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017099Mon, 10 Jun 2013 06:19:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Family skips on rent, turns violent and resist arrest on Mon, 10 Jun 2013 06:05:27 GMT]]>I was wondering what this was about when I saw headline in the TNP on Sat - ‘Tenant from Hell is Back’ - when I was buying ST…


Now after reading more from news and here, it’s really worrying that such ‘tenants’ are on the prowl for another place to rent…

They need serious/professional help, but they look like they are not the type who will accept help (or accept that they need help).

I wonder whether they had changed their addresses on their NRICs all these years. If as suggested organisations like MOE/MCYS had lost them, it could only be possible if their address in the National database is incorrect, which I think is against the law…

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017097https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017097Mon, 10 Jun 2013 06:05:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Family skips on rent, turns violent and resist arrest on Mon, 10 Jun 2013 05:17:33 GMT]]>Strange woman. Think she is mentally unsound.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017062https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017062Mon, 10 Jun 2013 05:17:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Family skips on rent, turns violent and resist arrest on Mon, 10 Jun 2013 05:05:44 GMT]]>They need to want to be helped in order for the relevant authorities to help them. Based on public information, the family may not want to be helped. Also, saw some TV footages of the family. Kids appear to be violent.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017055https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017055Mon, 10 Jun 2013 05:05:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Family skips on rent, turns violent and resist arrest on Mon, 10 Jun 2013 04:50:27 GMT]]>Compulsory school age is between 6 years and 15 years old. Can the government still interfere for the 17-years old son and 16-years old daughter?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017045https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017045Mon, 10 Jun 2013 04:50:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Family skips on rent, turns violent and resist arrest on Mon, 10 Jun 2013 04:50:12 GMT]]>For me, it's scary to even wonder if the mum has intention to keep her children out of the educational system because of those \"obstacles\" faced ? It doesn't sound justifiable at all. If textbooks are lost and kids cannot cope with chinese, do we just give up??? Where is the value on perseverance? :? This is just one of the many obstacles in life that one will face.


Also, the learning based on encyclopedia, trips to zoo and also life skills such as cooking/ fending for themselves ? Is this her definition of home schooling ? What is going to happen to the 3 kids??? Maybe they will even have problems looking for a job in the future without the min \"O\" levels? So they can never break away from the mum's control ? Does she want her kids to live a life like hers??? It's :yikes: As parents, we always hope our children will have better lives/ do better than us.

Also, the refusal to pay rental part is really :? Sign agreement with landlord and then suddenly ask landlord to prove ownership etc....??? This really sounds like 有理讲不清 type of person. Maybe that's why the parents of the kids' father objected to the relationship in the first place? For landlord, it's good to be aware of this family. It's like who dares to rent their house to them. It's a little like the \"tenant from hell\".

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017043https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017043Mon, 10 Jun 2013 04:50:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Family skips on rent, turns violent and resist arrest on Mon, 10 Jun 2013 04:35:15 GMT]]>Usually for homeschool cases, they normally home school kids studying in primary schools up to p6 Psle. And mothers must convince moe that she has the necessary qualification and teaching skills and ability to homeschool a child. After p6, the kids normally study in a secondary school. Not many mothers know how to home school children in secondary school. The sec school curriculum is tough. Plus there are practical laboratory work to be done for subjects like physical sciences, chemistry, biology, humanities, geography, history, etc.


In this case -
The mother homeschool 3 kids, including her girl aged 16 and son 17 yrs old.
This is actually gce o level and junior college jc year 1 level. O level and jc 1 got do many subjects, not easy.

If she busy selling cosmetics to earn a living, besides time to home school 3 kids, is she able to teach all subjects at o level or jc year 1 ? I doubt so.

Hope that moe will intervene in time, do something to help these 3 kids.
They had missed out 5 years of study. 5 years is a long time.
Pity the youngest son who had dropped out of p1.
Although he is physically aged 12, ie. supposed to sit for Psle this year, but his academic ability is that of a k2 kid, because he did not even complete primary 1.

Hope moe can step in, help this poor boy plus his siblings. :?: :imdrowning:
All 3 are pitiful. They each need to have a future, not follow their mother (obviously not right) hop from one rented place to another. They must stabilize down at a place somewhere. I hope sg will help do something to their plight. Hope that Hdb can also step in to offer help.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017034https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1017034Mon, 10 Jun 2013 04:35:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Family skips on rent, turns violent and resist arrest on Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:05:34 GMT]]>

teaberry:
Thanks Janet for the correction. I was looking for that saying 一种米养百种人, but somehow got it all wrong. :oops:

no worries...actually i wouldn't say it's 吃‘百种人’but 千种人. there are so many different types of people now.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1016978https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1016978Mon, 10 Jun 2013 02:05:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Family skips on rent, turns violent and resist arrest on Sun, 09 Jun 2013 15:13:13 GMT]]>Thanks Janet for the correction. I was looking for that saying 一种米养百种人, but somehow got it all wrong. :oops:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1016869https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1016869Sun, 09 Jun 2013 15:13:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Family skips on rent, turns violent and resist arrest on Sun, 09 Jun 2013 15:03:43 GMT]]>一种米吃百种人. We have yet to read more about the mum who lost her 9 year son…now a mother who ‘home-schools’ her kids this way. What in the world is going on? But then, 2nd case is even harder to comprehend.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1016863https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1016863Sun, 09 Jun 2013 15:03:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Family skips on rent, turns violent and resist arrest on Sun, 09 Jun 2013 06:05:16 GMT]]>

auntiexxx:
http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest%2BNews/Singapore/Story/A1Story20130609-428540.html


I seriously think the mother has some very serious problems ....
一把米养百样人。世上什么奇奇怪怪的人都有。

The mother's behaviour shows she is a social misfit. What's worse is she is leading her three children astray.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1016752https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1016752Sun, 09 Jun 2013 06:05:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Family skips on rent, turns violent and resist arrest on Sun, 09 Jun 2013 04:53:08 GMT]]>

janet_lee88:
If kids do not have an education, it will be hard to break out of poverty.

one only worries about poverty if one intends to pay mah...

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1016735https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1016735Sun, 09 Jun 2013 04:53:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Family skips on rent, turns violent and resist arrest on Sun, 09 Jun 2013 04:51:28 GMT]]>They should just pay rent, cos now MOE, IRAS and Mindef know where to find them... :evil:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1016733https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1016733Sun, 09 Jun 2013 04:51:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Family skips on rent, turns violent and resist arrest on Sun, 09 Jun 2013 04:45:47 GMT]]>MOE keeps tight rein on those kids who are home-schooled…these kids have a higher COP compared to those who attend school.


My guess is the mother kept moving house so that she is not traceable.
But who stands to lose…her kids! If kids do not have an education, it will be hard to break out of poverty.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1016731https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1016731Sun, 09 Jun 2013 04:45:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Family skips on rent, turns violent and resist arrest on Sun, 09 Jun 2013 04:44:43 GMT]]>More details on the family circumstances was in last night’s wanbao.


The mother does not wish to marry - it is only a piece of paper.

She mentioned that school was stressful and she had bought books to home-school her kids. Her kids are also able to do housework and she is happy with the way her children are being educated.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1016730https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1016730Sun, 09 Jun 2013 04:44:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Family skips on rent, turns violent and resist arrest on Sun, 09 Jun 2013 04:38:37 GMT]]>All singaporean children are required by law to attend primary school. A parent cannot just "allow" the child to drop out. She has to apply for legal permission, show that she has ghe time and ability to teach, produce a curriculum, and answer to MOE. The child at 12 is still required to take the PSLE, until the age of 15.


This woman is giving the authentic homeschooling community a bad name and her reply shows that she does not even know the latest requirements for legal homeschooling.

So my guess is she changed the address the first time round, and subsequently, there is no track of her because she has no permanent address. MOE can’t trace her. It is as simple as that. Now they certainly can and they should.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1016728https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1016728Sun, 09 Jun 2013 04:38:37 GMT