mamii:

speedy recover to your girl. I hope the doc can do as much as he can to help your girl.

Sunnybunny:

Hi Kittysocks Really sad and shocked to learn about what happen to your child. There are no absolute safe place at home and at school. What happened in cc could also happen at home. If children are not properly supervised, it's a matter of time accident will happen whether it is at home or at school. Just to share with you an incidence in my centre. A child suspected to have vomited and choked while sleeping. As this child's leg was out of his cot, so one teacher went to turn him over. It was about 1.15pm The begining of nap time! Then the teacher noticed the the child has no response and called the supervisor. The supervisor one look knew something was wrong with the child. His eyes rolled up, no pulse when another teacher checked his pulse. One teacher tried CPR not successful then the supervisor took over. 1 st blow no response, 2nd blow no response. Everyone got worried. Then the supervisor made a 3rd attempt, air then came out from the mouth and the boy committed. Finally the boy was revived but went into fits. Imagine what could have been the result if teacher did not bother to turn the boy over, or the teacher thought that the boy was sleeping too soundly? And till 3pm, the wake up time, the boy would have been dead! If this happened, whose fault? I have a number of sleepless night though the boy was saved. I kept thinking what will happen if the boy died cos everyone thought nothing could happen during sleeping time? This could also happen at home! I can't be sure whether the school was at fault in your case. This just remind us no where is absolutely safe! We need to be prepared for crisis. That's why I am glad that I have ALL my staff trained in first aid including the cook and the cleaner! So that all staff know what to do uring crisis. Similarly, it is important for parents to learn first aid. You never know when you will need to use it. For 5 years of our centre\"s operation, this is the first time we need to perform CPR. I am glad that we finally saved a life. Our centre's effort in getting all staff trained finally paid off. Child care centres in most cases are safer than many homes! But we cannot be complacent, we must alway stay prepared for the worst! So I urge all parents to go for first aid training. You never know one day you may save your child\"s life or someone\"s life!

kittysocks:

路人甲:

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oh no, the principal who did the first aid , didnt apply icing....and she didnt put the severed part in ice pack....it was only with gauze and a ziplock bag....

yah...and i questioned why they didn't send her to hospital at first instance...the response was that there is enough time.

That is totally unacceptable. Th principal is the head of the school dealing with kids and yet she doesn't know first aid? :mad:

Imami:

Kittysocks,
 :hugs: reading your first post brought back some bad memories. Most sorry to hear such accidents happening to young children. I think yes, you got it right - the priority is to settle your child first, then sort out the others. 

I could feel and understand your pain. My son fell and ended up with a bad laceration at the area in between the eyes. What happened? My son , together with his classmates were playing at the childcare centre's indoor playground. A teacher was supposed to watch over the kids. Due to a teacher's negligence (she admitted and apologised seceral times after that), my son fell and hit himself so hard that he ended up with a laceration. 

I still remembered that teacher called me at 5.15pm and told me my son \"had a fall\". She also added \"he probably need some glue to tape the cut\" and \" not bleeding much but the cut looks deep\". 

What happened the next 6hours - I rushed to the cc, picked my son, went to a gp who told me that my son needed stitches as the laceration was deep but he couldn't do it. He did add that my son needed to get his laceration stitch up within 6 hours before the skin \"die off\" (then the scar would be permanent) and that i could only do it at kkh becos they would have the specialist to deal with a child so young (my son just turned four then). 

At kkh, we waited for our turn since our case was not \"urgent\" (I was upset but I could understand why ours was termed \"not urgent\" becos there was traffic accident victim, seizure case, scalded victim etc. I have to concede my son's case was not life threatening.).

By the time we manage to see someone, 4hours had passed. The doc (very young!) said my son needed stitches for sure as the glue wouldnt work for his case. Yeah right, I knew already and I was mentally prepared for it. What I didn't know - becos of his age, his medical history and where the laceration was located, my son would have to go without any anesthesia. Becos the chances of him not \"waking up\" after a GA is higher than normal.

He recommended to go without any anesthesia due to the high risk involved (if to do it under GA) but said that the child must stay still so that he could be stitched up and asked me if I could decide fast (becos need to do it within 6 hours). All he could offer was some numbing cream which he himself said was \"insufficient\" to numb the pain. I honestly found it unreasonable to get someone stay still while being stitched up without any anesthesia. Let alone a young child!!!

But I didn't think I have much of a choice. Rather than to Risk my son's life, I rather he go through the most painful but safe way. And I did the unbelievable - I explained to my son that the surgeon would need to sew up him up, it's going to be extremely painful but he got to promise me not to fidget as it would affect the surgeon's work. Like angel, he agreed to and said he would be brave. Honestly, who would believe him (that he would not move)? and I must be out of my mind to believe that he would understand, you would think.

My tears just welled up and couldn't stop the moment the needle poked into his skin. this little guy was truly brave - he didn't fidget and was all quiet and still thru it all. The little guy only started crying after the surgeon tied a knot and cut off the thread. Hahah.... the surgery was successfully completed and my son healed well.

While I paid the charges upfront, all out of pocket expenses (including follow up visits at kkh and pd) are reimbursed by the insurance company.

We didn't take any action against the cc nor the teacher becos

- I deemed it as an accident as I genuinely believed nobody (the teacher and the cc) wanted this to happen
- that my son, young as he was, needed to shoulder some responsibility in this  unpleasant episode. And of cos, me too, as a parent.
- I honestly believed that everyone (the school, the teacher, my son and us) had learnt a good lessons and been wiser after this. The teacher in particular, would step up her vigilance and be more alert going forward.

The above said, please don't misunderstand me - I am not trying to influence your decision to take further action against the school or teacher. Do what you deem fit. Each case is different.

kittysocks:

jatas:

Sorry to hear about this. The principal is a good administrator but one really need to be comfortable with the principal. A good principal will seriously take one’s suggestions/comments into consideration instead of just executing her duties based on the school guidelines.

Why can’t the school send your girl to the hospital in the first instance instead of waiting for the parent to come?

Did the school applied the common knowledge of icing the severed part at the first instance? If not, have they flopped their duties as caretaker?

Accidents do happen but the reaction to crisis by the care taker is important. Have they failed in their duties? Have they shown their concern to the kid or just cast their responsibilities aside? What is their after accident altitude? Do they suggest any measure of taking extra care of the girl in term of physiological need?

Take care!

Hi jatas,

Good questions!

oh no, the principal who did the first aid , didnt apply icing....and she didnt put the severed part in ice pack....it was only with gauze and a ziplock bag....

yah...and i questioned why they didn't send her to hospital at first instance...the response was that there is enough time.

路人甲:

kittysocks:

oh no, the principal who did the first aid , didnt apply icing....and she didnt put the severed part in ice pack....it was only with gauze and a ziplock bag....

yah...and i questioned why they didn't send her to hospital at first instance...the response was that there is enough time.

That is totally unacceptable. Th principal is the head of the school dealing with kids and yet she doesn't know first aid? :mad:

kittysocks:

Jennifer:

Hi Kittysocks,

I think you should take action against the centre. Demand for the CCTV footage. See whether the incident is due to negligence by the teacher.

There is no cctv! *cry*......but clearly there is negligence and lack of duty of care (be it the school for not installing door guard and the teachers for not watching out for the kids).

BabyRR:

Hi kittysocks


I'm really sorry to hear abt the incident that happened to your girl. I hope the specialist will be able to help. Don't blame yourself. Kk has its merits.. And when an incident like that happen it's natural for us parents to think of kk as first stop. It's a children specialist hospital after all. And as parents all we want is the best we can do for the children.

I do hope your girl will recover well and soon.

ngl2010:

There is a mechanism where door will close slowly and cannot be slammed. This is a preventable accident :mad: