Jennifer:

concern2:

suspected it was in the uterus.

cant be lah.

concern2:

suspected it was in the uterus.

ChiefKiasu:

firefly38:

Btw, what causes kidney stones ?

Dunno. They are actually crystalline calcium oxalate - they look like a clump of yellow diamonds (I wish!) with hard, sharp edges (ouch!). Doctors are not very clear on what produces them, but they have linked calcium products - eg. calcium supplements, and even migraine medication to the propensity to create stones.

ChiefKiasu:

firefly38:

Oh dear.. Next time I play arcade games, I will think of Chief.. :oops:


Btw, what causes kidney stones ?

Dunno. They are actually crystalline calcium oxalate - they look like a clump of yellow diamonds (I wish!) with hard, sharp edges (ouch!). Doctors are not very clear on what produces them, but they have linked calcium products - eg. calcium supplements, and even migraine medication to the propensity to create stones.

firefly38:

Oh dear.. Next time I play arcade games, I will think of Chief.. :oops:


Btw, what causes kidney stones ?

buds:

... No matter how macho, cannot stand a bit of pain.

buds:

But that's exactly the same thing hubs said when he had it too, (mebbe still in there) :scared: cos he didn't go for it. He said too expensive. Plus, he was told by other friends who have gone thru it that the chances of getting it again is higher for those who have had it before and that the blasting had actually spread the \"tiny stone\" into even smaller ones that did not come out of the system even after the blasting.. so the pain was still there.

ChiefKiasu:

The cramps can incapacitate a guy for hours... with what seems to be gastric and nausea. It's not like giving birth. It's feels more like dying.

buds:

Chiefy, you make shock wave sound shiok. :rotflmao:

I thought it was termed as blasting or mebbe that's a different treatment? :scratchhead:

It has been told that the pain of having a kidney stone is second to child birth. So, yah.. technically you had two \"births\" with accelerated labour some sort.

I didn't take any epidural at all. Didn't dare. :scared:

happyheart:

My hubby went through shockwave op to remove his stones early this year. He does not feel much discomfort during the procedure and he is fine after 3 days' MC.

Just to share, my cousin's husband had an emergency surgey last month because his kidney stones burst inside his body without warning, which caused a lot of pain. My personal take is to get rid of the stones asap while you can. Shock wave surgery is generally safe but of course, given your dad's age, it will be best to consult the doctor first.

chrisloh:

You can claim that you have experienced \"giving birth\" like a woman NOT one but twice! Aiya, just 15 mins, woman endures longer than that.

ChiefKiasu:

Jennifer:

:salute:

The way you wrote the above. Arcade game :udaman:

Lol. It's only funny when it's over . I just wanted to point out that my experience with the procedure was that it was painful, even with LA. Or maybe it is just the sadist of the doctor that I had, since other patients seem to have good experiences so far... :scratchhead:

Come to think of it... actually the screen reminds me more of the Desert Storm pictures that the allies showed on TV. Black and white picture. Cross hair on a building, and suddenly a flash and a puff of smoke... and no more building.

Jennifer:

:salute:


The way you wrote the above. Arcade game :udaman:

ChiefKiasu:

I had extracorporeal shock wave lithotripsy (ESWL) done before, not once, but twice.


The first time I went without any local anesthetic, because I drove to the hospital and so I didn't want pethidine (same drug they give to women in labour!) as it would affect my ability to drive. The doctor claimed that it wasn't painful. Well... it wasn't, until they started increasing the intensity. Let's put it this way. It feels exactly like someone holding a rubber band on your back and pulling and letting go to let the rubber band hit you. If the strength used is light, of course it is not painful. If it is strong... you bet it will be painful! Now, multiply that with the number of hits per second. You get the picture. By the end of the first 15 minutes, I was wishing that I was dead.

The operator took pride in showing me the ultra-sound monitor that she was using to direct the blasting. It has a cross-hair which she used to aim at the \"dark mass\" and she was cheerily commenting how the dark mass was becoming more faint because the stone was breaking up. It was like an arcade game, except that my kidney was used as the arena. I certainly wasn't in any mood to cheer her on defeating the big bad boss.

The 2nd time, I wised up and took a cab to the hospital instead. I gladly accepted the offer of pethidine as would a woman in labour (no, I wasn't afraid of my stones having a hangover when I give \"birth\" to them). Unfortunately, even with the pethidine, I could still feel every hit. It did nothing to lessen the pain... it just made me feel drunk and high. So I'm not sure if the experience was any different, with or without the local.