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jedamum:
Concern2

We are blessed to meet nice people too.
Once son was too far from me and when about to alight, a kind passenger told son he needed to alight before I needed to shout across the crowd.
Husband has medical condition that he can't stand/walkextended period of time and on a few occasions fell asleep on reserved seat. So far kind commuters had left him alone. He said his greatest challenge commuting on mrt is whether to give up his seat to ladies who looked not so obviously pregnant. 😓
😆 (at words in bold). :snuggles:

For those ladies, I'll usually check their facial expressions. If they look very boh chap and don't meet my eyes, I'll take it that they don't need my seat.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/62771/shocking-stomp-who-is-more-wrongRSS for NodeMon, 04 May 2026 19:24:10 GMTFri, 25 Oct 2013 10:39:08 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Shocking Stomp - Who is more wrong? on Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:29:18 GMT]]>Concern2

We are blessed to meet nice people too.
Once son was too far from me and when about to alight, a kind passenger told son he needed to alight before I needed to shout across the crowd.
Husband has medical condition that he can't stand/walkextended period of time and on a few occasions fell asleep on reserved seat. So far kind commuters had left him alone. He said his greatest challenge commuting on mrt is whether to give up his seat to ladies who looked not so obviously pregnant. 😓

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1130650https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1130650Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:29:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Shocking Stomp - Who is more wrong? on Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:24:12 GMT]]>

jedamum:
Today I saw this poster at the busstop, depicting a person sleeping on the reserved seat. Any one seen it? If you as a standing passenger, sees someone sleeping on the priority seat, would you wake him up for the needy passenger or approach other awake seated passengers?

I don't think I will wake him. I'd prob start staring at all the other alert ones around me to make them feel guilty. But so far, like I've said, I've met pleasant ones. Even foreign workers know to give up their seats.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1130647https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1130647Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:24:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Shocking Stomp - Who is more wrong? on Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:21:21 GMT]]>

Jennifer:
So far, my encounters in MRT were pleasant ones. I see people giving up their seats for the needy. There r also kind people who offer their seat to my young boy as he is small sized.


I noticed at certain stations, boarding passengers r very considerate, always wait for alighting passengers, not rushing into the carriages. Certain stations, people rush in.

There r gracious people as well as the not so gracious ones. To expect all to be gracious is a tall order for Sg.
Same here. I've encountered mostly kind people.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1130645https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1130645Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:21:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Shocking Stomp - Who is more wrong? on Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:18:36 GMT]]>Today I saw this poster at the busstop, depicting a person sleeping on the reserved seat. Any one seen it? If you as a standing passenger, sees someone sleeping on the priority seat, would you wake him up for the needy passenger or approach other awake seated passengers?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1130642https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1130642Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:18:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Shocking Stomp - Who is more wrong? on Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:13:57 GMT]]>this kind we need to live and let live. forget it lah. just use common sense. if people don’t use common sense, than just let it be.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1130640https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1130640Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:13:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Shocking Stomp - Who is more wrong? on Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:07:18 GMT]]>

sushi88:
longmao.irene:

[quote=\"kevkevkaf\"]That is why i usually just stand but I let my kids sit when there are seats. I hope they will stand together with me in future though. No point fighting over little stuffs like this.


GREAT MINDS TIK ALIKE!!
Tats wat I usually do as well...

Kudos to both of you. Good to know there are parents around who plan to train their children not to be so wimpy and needy for a seat. I think it is an important concept. Leading by example is also a very powerful learning tool. :rahrah:[/quote]I usually make sure my kids take the seats if they are available even though they prefer to stand with me. This is to save myself the embarrassment when they start to do pole dancing :oops: :roll:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1130632https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1130632Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:07:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Shocking Stomp - Who is more wrong? on Thu, 10 Oct 2013 05:07:43 GMT]]>When I was heavily pregnant, I prefer NOT to sit cos I have difficulty getting up after that 😂


I ever asked a guy to give up his seat for my boy on SBS bus. He was so pissed that he raised his voice \"Cannot wait is it?\". He was seated on those seats meant for 1 adult 1child, so I thought it's ok to ask if he can give up his seat. But apparently, he got angry.

There was another time, I was seated on the inner seat on a SBS bus. When my stop is near, I stood up and wanted to make my way to the exit. The lady beside me who was seated on the outer seat shouted at me \"Can't you wait for the bus to stop 1st!\". My seat was near the rear, I was afraid that I will miss my stop so I stood up earlier mah.

Maybe living in Singapore is too stressful, people 'snapped' easily.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1117953https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1117953Thu, 10 Oct 2013 05:07:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Shocking Stomp - Who is more wrong? on Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:21:05 GMT]]>Perhaps the pregnant woman is in advanced stage of pregnancy.

Thus, she need a seat badly, so woke up that person, who got mad & angry at her. Or also the journey for her is far, she can't stand long, so request for the \"reserved\" seat. The person who was angry at her - not sure if really in deep slumber, or just pretending to close eyes and sleep, knowing that the \"reserved\" seat is meant for the following people (pregnant woman, old folks, mommy carrying baby in her arms, or young toddler)

Besides pregnant women, old folks also need that \"reserved\" seat :-
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HEUf-kKjoxQ

Btw, have a question :-
Suppose we are one of the passengers happen to be sitting inside this train cubicle, with this young man and the old man. Suppose they began to fight, after arguing over the \"reserved\" seat. If the fight gets bad / ugly, and worry that the old man may be injured in the fight, and if we (bystander) press the bell to alert mrt station / driver to investigate, will we be fined $ 500 ? Not sure how this $500 fine work, apart from pressing bell, during emergency. Example :- leg or dress get caught in the mrt train door, when closing.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1117915https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1117915Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:21:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Shocking Stomp - Who is more wrong? on Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:15:54 GMT]]>More than the issue of giving up or not giving up the seat, it’s the tone and the content of points 3 & 4 that upsets me. Talk about arrogance!


On giving up seats, I find that is someone else asks it is more effective. Next time you see someone who needs a seat, ask one of the other passengers to give up their seat. I find it often gets a better response as you are doing something nice for someone else which probably makes them fee more guilty 😉

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1117908https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1117908Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:15:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Shocking Stomp - Who is more wrong? on Thu, 10 Oct 2013 03:08:14 GMT]]>

longmao.irene:
kevkevkaf:

That is why i usually just stand but I let my kids sit when there are seats. I hope they will stand together with me in future though. No point fighting over little stuffs like this.


GREAT MINDS TIK ALIKE!!
Tats wat I usually do as well...

Kudos to both of you. Good to know there are parents around who plan to train their children not to be so wimpy and needy for a seat. I think it is an important concept. Leading by example is also a very powerful learning tool. :rahrah:

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longmao.irene:
kevkevkaf:

That is why i usually just stand but I let my kids sit when there are seats. I hope they will stand together with me in future though. No point fighting over little stuffs like this.


GREAT MINDS TIK ALIKE!!
Tats wat I usually do as well...

really pointless getting all raged up over seats right 😄

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1117797https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1117797Thu, 10 Oct 2013 02:47:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Shocking Stomp - Who is more wrong? on Thu, 10 Oct 2013 02:40:26 GMT]]>

kevkevkaf:
That is why i usually just stand but I let my kids sit when there are seats. I hope they will stand together with me in future though. No point fighting over little stuffs like this.

GREAT MINDS TIK ALIKE!!
Tats wat I usually do as well...

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1117788https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1117788Thu, 10 Oct 2013 02:40:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Shocking Stomp - Who is more wrong? on Thu, 10 Oct 2013 02:32:59 GMT]]>That is why i usually just stand but I let my kids sit when there are seats. I hope they will stand together with me in future though. No point fighting over little stuffs like this.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1117776https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1117776Thu, 10 Oct 2013 02:32:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Shocking Stomp - Who is more wrong? on Wed, 09 Oct 2013 10:17:44 GMT]]>

Mawar:
Just to share my personal experience many years ago. I boarded the train at one end of town with my 2 young kids. We managed to get 3 seats. Usually we would occupy 2 seats, either squeezing or with the younger one on my lap. That day I was feeling dizzy and I just left the kids in their respective seats. We were in the middle section of the carriage. I closed my eyes hoping the spell would pass. I opened my eyes to check on the kids from time to time.


Half way through I heard 2 ladies talking. I picked up sneering tone, and only after awhile that I realized they were referring to me. \"Some people pretending to sleep, pretend ... Blah blah\". They must have been talking about me for awhile and when I looked around, many were looking at me.

I didn't know what to do then. Just squirming in my seat and feeling worse than before.
The society is becoming so cynical that we cannot even cut people some slack. Is sitting in the MRT very critical to most people? Honestly for me, it is not. For me ,the most important is the draft of air flowing, the ventilation, so I prefer to stand at the joints between 2 carriages to enjoy some breeze.

Singapore is really so small....I think the maximum travelling in MRT can never be more than 1-1.5 hours straight through? Can we not stand for 1-1.5hours for the fit and healthy? I don't know what else to say... :?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1117355https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1117355Wed, 09 Oct 2013 10:17:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Shocking Stomp - Who is more wrong? on Wed, 09 Oct 2013 10:07:20 GMT]]>Just to share my personal experience many years ago. I boarded the train at one end of town with my 2 young kids. We managed to get 3 seats. Usually we would occupy 2 seats, either squeezing or with the younger one on my lap. That day I was feeling dizzy and I just left the kids in their respective seats. We were in the middle section of the carriage. I closed my eyes hoping the spell would pass. I opened my eyes to check on the kids from time to time.


Half way through I heard 2 ladies talking. I picked up sneering tone, and only after awhile that I realized they were referring to me. "Some people pretending to sleep, pretend … Blah blah". They must have been talking about me for awhile and when I looked around, many were looking at me.

I didn’t know what to do then. Just squirming in my seat and feeling worse than before.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1117347https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1117347Wed, 09 Oct 2013 10:07:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Shocking Stomp - Who is more wrong? on Wed, 09 Oct 2013 06:43:49 GMT]]>did the pregnant lady thought that the sleeping commuter was pretending to be asleep?


i feel
- first the pregnant shouldn’t even wake the sleeping commuter up and
- second the commuter should just give up the seat when being asked to

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1117097https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1117097Wed, 09 Oct 2013 06:43:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Shocking Stomp - Who is more wrong? on Wed, 09 Oct 2013 03:27:17 GMT]]>Have "purple" card will get you a seat. Saw a man on the train pointing his finger at the priority seats. All the time, with his right hand inside his shirt pocket all ready to show his "purple" card demanding his seat from a lady. No thanks, no please, no words came from him. His finger did all the work.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1116873https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1116873Wed, 09 Oct 2013 03:27:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Shocking Stomp - Who is more wrong? on Wed, 09 Oct 2013 03:23:29 GMT]]>Especially point 3 and 4 he wrote in the post... It's a plain personal attack!


And the using of words like \"plonk her arse down\"... :yikes:

The grown-up-strawberry-generation?! :spank:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1116867https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1116867Wed, 09 Oct 2013 03:23:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Shocking Stomp - Who is more wrong? on Wed, 09 Oct 2013 03:09:36 GMT]]>

Harlequin:
limlim:

Is there no other one on the train/bus??


why the woman target the sleeper leh..?

Agree with this point. But the stomper's post is really :slapshead:

Maybe the preggy woman saw the man's eyes half-OPEN, so assumed he was pretending to sleep.. But the man was really sleeping with eyes half-CLOSED.. :scratchhead:

Yup.. If not for the post, the \"sleeper\" would have more people on his side.. :slapshead:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1116844https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1116844Wed, 09 Oct 2013 03:09:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Shocking Stomp - Who is more wrong? on Wed, 09 Oct 2013 02:54:50 GMT]]>

Dora1:

We have also visited other countries where we get seats the minute we enter the train. Somehow we don't trigger the same sleepy response that we get in SG.
For all the complaints we have of mainland Chinese, i experienced something in Shenzhen 3 yr ago that put us to shame.

We all know that Singaporeans sitting on MRTs will suddenly sleep when they need needy people boarding the trains, so that's nothing new.

When I was on vacation in Shenzhen with my kids and parents (who are in their 70s), when we entered one train, there were a few single empty seats in the cabin as it was not full. But as my parents walked through the door, 2 men who were chatting and seated, immediately stood up and offered their seats to my parents. These two men also had white hair, and look to be in their early-mid 50s.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1116826https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1116826Wed, 09 Oct 2013 02:54:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Shocking Stomp - Who is more wrong? on Wed, 09 Oct 2013 02:12:52 GMT]]>

limlim:
Is there no other one on the train/bus??


why the woman target the sleeper leh..?
If the MRT is crowded, chances are the lady was close to the priority seat( ie near the door), Likely the priority seat was occupied by another pregnant woman or elderly. So she can only ask the commuters in the 1-2 seats near it. Not practical to push past the crowd to reach the middle seats to ask, no?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1116796https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1116796Wed, 09 Oct 2013 02:12:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Shocking Stomp - Who is more wrong? on Wed, 09 Oct 2013 01:57:54 GMT]]>

Dora1:
I have encountered both good and bad encounters on the MRT. I still remember when DD was around 2 yo, I was carrying her, plus the breast pumps barangs, plus my laptop and her CC bag in the mrt. I think I looked worse than the army guys in full gear. And yet, I don't get a seat 100% of the time. There will be a lot of people who will suddenly sleep when they see me enter the train. Luckily I only needed to take 4 stops.

We have also visited other countries where we get seats the minute we enter the train. Somehow we don't trigger the same sleepy response that we get in SG.
Maybe the pregnant ladies attitude can be better, but the bottom line is that graciousness is for all seats and all time. We should move on from waiting for the authorities to tell us what to do for every single thing. Priority seats - give up your seats. Other seats - no need to give up.
Whatever happened to compassion and empathy. And to think that he/she can actually post the incident on facebook with such nasty comments really show that he/she has neither - his/her sense of entitlement is really too great. Very sad indeed.
I can soooooo empathise wif u, Dora
so far to say.i hv mostly bad experience..mayb due to my timming wen I board d train.. normally. ..peak hrs in d mornings & evenings..

I can still vivdly remember my DS 4YO n I was saronging my newborn plus carrying his CC schbag plus my own bb barang
(Just so happened I got to send DS to CC coz tat day no one avaliable).. board d train fr sengkang to kovan.. not a single soul offer seats.. all avoiding eye contacts... nevetheless to say for my 9 mths pregnancy no one EVER gvn up d seat for me.. mayb I look strong! 🤷 I still got to dashed for d seat fr an ah pek in one particular incident! Super pathetic. .
so sm wat d other I can feel for tat lady... mayb sge hv a rough day n tired of asking for seats so just TARGET ONE N VENT :spank: :spank:
so was wondering did d sleepyhead gv up.his seat????

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1116779https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1116779Wed, 09 Oct 2013 01:57:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Shocking Stomp - Who is more wrong? on Wed, 09 Oct 2013 01:24:49 GMT]]>

limlim:
Is there no other one on the train/bus??


why the woman target the sleeper leh..?
Agree with this point. But the stomper's post is really :slapshead:

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