<![CDATA[How exactly is EESIS calculated?]]>

ilovelaksa:
jetsetter:

[quote=\"Jennifer\"]Knowing whether the child qualifies for scholarship helps some underprivileged families to make a choice now.


:goodpost:

Hi, my dd has two gd frens on the FAS scheme. They scored 258+3 and 260+3. They get full waiver on sch fees, free textbooks and uniforms, food vouchers etc. I understand from their teacher that they will continue to do so in any sec sch of their choice.
I don't think the EESIS is a main consideration for them. When I spoke to them, they were concerned only with the sec sch's proximity from their homes. One of them is raised by an elderly grandmother, she said she need to get home fast should there be a need to. The other has working parents and they wld like her to come earlier and help look after her younger bro.
Both hv a chosen non-elite schools near to home.[/quote]That is wonderful for them, to be given the EESIS but made the choice to give it up. I wish though that MOE has a system where they can route these scholarships to the rest of the mainstreamers mentioned in the other forum who scored 257+3 and are no less deserving than GEPpers scoring 247 and are still given the same scholarships.

The implementation of this scholarship seems to me to be extremely flawed, given the sentiments expressed by many forummers, especially with respect to the discount in cut off points to GEP kids.

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jetsetter:
Jennifer:

Knowing whether the child qualifies for scholarship helps some underprivileged families to make a choice now.


:goodpost:

Hi, my dd has two gd frens on the FAS scheme. They scored 258+3 and 260+3. They get full waiver on sch fees, free textbooks and uniforms, food vouchers etc. I understand from their teacher that they will continue to do so in any sec sch of their choice.
I don't think the EESIS is a main consideration for them. When I spoke to them, they were concerned only with the sec sch's proximity from their homes. One of them is raised by an elderly grandmother, she said she need to get home fast should there be a need to. The other has working parents and they wld like her to come earlier and help look after her younger bro.
Both hv a chosen non-elite schools near to home.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1160385https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1160385Tue, 03 Dec 2013 07:53:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How exactly is EESIS calculated? on Fri, 29 Nov 2013 03:57:17 GMT]]>[quote]Excellent analysis....BUT this is the EESIS thread [/quote]

😄 trying to establish a relation between EESIS and school COP. I think that is why we talk about EESIS so much. 😄

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1158114https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1158114Fri, 29 Nov 2013 03:57:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How exactly is EESIS calculated? on Fri, 29 Nov 2013 03:53:52 GMT]]>

piggybank:
Dear GreenA,


Do you have speculation COP for River Valley and ACSI (IB) ?
I am sorry I don't have. It is more difficult to speculate on schools follow closely behind the top six. Their COP is affected by more forces and we do not have any reliable data.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1158107https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1158107Fri, 29 Nov 2013 03:53:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How exactly is EESIS calculated? on Fri, 29 Nov 2013 03:37:56 GMT]]>

GreenA:
[quote]----1.1 The EESIS are awarded to Singaporean students who are in the top one-third of the total number of secondary 1 pupils admitted to all independent schools (IS)1 , based on their PSLE results.

----The independent schools are Anglo-Chinese School (Independent), Hwa Chong Institution, Methodist Girls’ School, Nanyang Girls’ High School, NUS High School, Raffles Girls School, Raffles Institution, School of the Arts, School of Science & Technology, Singapore Chinese Girls’ School, Singapore Sports School and St Joseph’s Institution.
exclude SOTA and Sports school, there are 10 schools. assume each school take 400, so 400 x 10 / 3 = 1333, look at 2013 PSLE 43000+ student, 43000 x 3% = 1291.
so we can say EESIS is top 3%.
My take of the EESIS COP is a little different.

The intake of IS is constant. It will not change with pupil population. Therefore, number of pupils offered EESIS should be same each year. This number is approximate to 3% of cohort. Therefore, it was referred as an indicator of 3%. In dragon year, EESIS may less then 3%, in Snake year, it may be larger then 3%.

I have a set of figure to show relation between EESIS and COP of RGS n NYGH

Year EESIS RGS NYGH-3
2012 263 263 262
2011 261 261 259
2010 260 260 259
2009 261 260 260
2008 263 263 260
2007 264 266 262

* NYGH column has COP-3. This is to subtract the effect of HML bonus points.

RGS COP seldom falls below EESIS, except year 2009. We can calculate pupil numbers, vs school vacancy:

let's take the dragon year, there are 48000 pupils.

3% of them is 48000 * 0.03 = 1440

suppose 60% of them are girls:
1440 * 0.6 = 864

70% of them will apply for RGS or NYGH:
864 * 0.7 = 605

Total vacancy at these two schools: 840
Half of them are filled with DSA: 420
Place available: 420

of the 420 suscessful DSA pupils: 60% of them meet the COP of respective schools: 420 * 0.6 = 252
(this means, of the 605 EESIS girls who apply for RGS and NYGH, 252 are already admitted through DSA)

So, non-DSA EESIS girl candidates: 605 - 252 = 353
Places available at the two schools: 420

That means, even if all non-DAS EESIS candidates are admitted, the two schools still have 67 places to be filled.

However, in dragon year, RGS COP = EESIS. NYGH = EESIS - 1.

Why top schools COP didn't fall below EESIS? I think there are a few factors:

1. There are non-SC who has good scores but not offered EESIS.
2. Schools reserve some places for Apeal, or other considerations.

Look at the historical figures, I dare to speculate that, for year 2013 PSLE,

RGS COP = 258,
NYGH COP = 257+3 = 260,
RI COP = 257,
HCI COP = 254+3 = 257,
NJC COP = 254,
NUSH COP = 257[/quote]Excellent analysis....BUT this is the EESIS thread 🦆

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1158083https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1158083Fri, 29 Nov 2013 03:37:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How exactly is EESIS calculated? on Fri, 29 Nov 2013 03:37:13 GMT]]>Dear GreenA,


Do you have speculation COP for River Valley and ACSI (IB) ?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1158082https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1158082Fri, 29 Nov 2013 03:37:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How exactly is EESIS calculated? on Fri, 29 Nov 2013 03:29:00 GMT]]>[quote]----1.1 The EESIS are awarded to Singaporean students who are in the top one-third of the total number of secondary 1 pupils admitted to all independent schools (IS)1 , based on their PSLE results.

----The independent schools are Anglo-Chinese School (Independent), Hwa Chong Institution, Methodist Girls’ School, Nanyang Girls’ High School, NUS High School, Raffles Girls School, Raffles Institution, School of the Arts, School of Science & Technology, Singapore Chinese Girls’ School, Singapore Sports School and St Joseph’s Institution.
exclude SOTA and Sports school, there are 10 schools. assume each school take 400, so 400 x 10 / 3 = 1333, look at 2013 PSLE 43000+ student, 43000 x 3% = 1291.
so we can say EESIS is top 3%.[/quote]My take of the EESIS COP is a little different.

The intake of IS is constant. It will not change with pupil population. Therefore, number of pupils offered EESIS should be same each year. This number is approximate to 3% of cohort. Therefore, it was referred as an indicator of 3%. In dragon year, EESIS may less then 3%, in Snake year, it may be larger then 3%.

I have a set of figure to show relation between EESIS and COP of RGS n NYGH

Year EESIS RGS NYGH-3
2012 263 263 262
2011 261 261 259
2010 260 260 259
2009 261 260 260
2008 263 263 260
2007 264 266 262

* NYGH column has COP-3. This is to subtract the effect of HML bonus points.

RGS COP seldom falls below EESIS, except year 2009. We can calculate pupil numbers, vs school vacancy:

let's take the dragon year, there are 48000 pupils.

3% of them is 48000 * 0.03 = 1440

suppose 60% of them are girls:
1440 * 0.6 = 864

70% of them will apply for RGS or NYGH:
864 * 0.7 = 605

Total vacancy at these two schools: 840
Half of them are filled with DSA: 420
Place available: 420

of the 420 suscessful DSA pupils: 60% of them meet the COP of respective schools: 420 * 0.6 = 252
(this means, of the 605 EESIS girls who apply for RGS and NYGH, 252 are already admitted through DSA)

So, non-DSA EESIS girl candidates: 605 - 252 = 353
Places available at the two schools: 420

That means, even if all non-DAS EESIS candidates are admitted, the two schools still have 67 places to be filled.

However, in dragon year, RGS COP = EESIS. NYGH = EESIS - 1.

Why top schools COP didn't fall below EESIS? I think there are a few factors:

1. There are non-SC who has good scores but not offered EESIS.
2. NYGH takes in affiliate pupils from NYPS.
3. Schools reserve some places for Apeal, or other considerations.

Look at the historical figures, I dare to speculate that, for year 2013 PSLE,

RGS COP = 258,
NYGH COP = 257+3 = 260,
RI COP = 257,
HCI COP = 254+3 = 257,
NJC COP = 254,
NUSH COP = 257

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1158075https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1158075Fri, 29 Nov 2013 03:29:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How exactly is EESIS calculated? on Thu, 28 Nov 2013 14:50:18 GMT]]>

TravelMummy:

That's the irony. Many GEP with scores between 250-257 are also given the EEIS. Why is the cut off for GEP merely at top 10% of cohort while it is so much more stringent for mainstreamers - top 3%? As you rightly pointed out, most GEP kids should be in top 3%, so why can't those be the ones rewarded only, in a meritocratic system. Why more leeway given to GEP and not the rest?
I wonder about it too. I think the requirement should be made the same.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1157810https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1157810Thu, 28 Nov 2013 14:50:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How exactly is EESIS calculated? on Thu, 28 Nov 2013 14:36:09 GMT]]>[quote=\"jpe\"]here is my understanding to share:

1. about the total number of pupils is granted for ESSIS

exclude SOTA and Sports school, there are 10 schools. assume each school take 400, so 400 x 10 / 3 = 1333, look at 2013 PSLE 43000+ student, 43000 x 3% = 1291.
so we can say EESIS is top 3%.

Why exclude SOTA & Sports School? They have no top students?! :shock:

2.
the statement is how does MOE solve the issue. ie. they give to top 3% first. if not all top3% go IP, they will fill in with others who also go IP but get lower score.

Don't think they will offer to anyone with lower score. Recall speaking to someone from MOE -any scholarship not given out will just be left unoffered. So the next 1% won't be given consideration.


4. about GEPer, so far the GEPer always top performer, I believe most of them will be in top3%. some of them could be lower but based on MOE
----1.2 The EESIS is also awarded to Primary 6 Gifted Education Programme (GEP) Singaporean students who:
----meet the P6 GEP promotion criteria, and
----are enrolled in the IP in an Independent School at S12.
my understanding is : it is additional EESIS to the top3%.

That's the irony. Many GEP with scores between 250-257 are also given the EEIS. Why is the cut off for GEP merely at top 10% of cohort while it is so much more stringent for mainstreamers - top 3%? As you rightly pointed out, most GEP kids should be in top 3%, so why can't those be the ones rewarded only, in a meritocratic system. Why more leeway given to GEP and not the rest?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1157803https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1157803Thu, 28 Nov 2013 14:36:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How exactly is EESIS calculated? on Thu, 28 Nov 2013 07:56:52 GMT]]>

zeemimi:
Sorry I'm not too sure about eesis.

Is the eesis renewable on a yearly basis based on some criteria? I'm referring to those who got it via psle. Tks.
EESIS should be for the entire Sec years, 6 years for IP school. I don't know if there is any minimum performance standard though.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1157533https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1157533Thu, 28 Nov 2013 07:56:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How exactly is EESIS calculated? on Thu, 28 Nov 2013 07:43:03 GMT]]>Sorry I’m not too sure about eesis.

Is the eesis renewable on a yearly basis based on some criteria? I’m referring to those who got it via psle. Tks.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1157517https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1157517Thu, 28 Nov 2013 07:43:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How exactly is EESIS calculated? on Thu, 28 Nov 2013 02:13:39 GMT]]>

ngbrdad:
So if a student whose initial PSLE score did not reach the EESIS cut off but went to an independent school, who subsequently does very well in year 2 and above, definitely withing top 1/3 of the cohort,


So is this student eligible for EESIS from year 2 onwards ?
For a student in IP school, if he/she didn't make the EESIS cutoff with PSLE T score, he cannot get EESIS anymore but he can get the same amount of money to cover the school fees in 2 ways:

1. Each year, the top 5% of students in that school cohort will be given approximately $2400 (same amount as annual EESIS) by MOE. Note this top 5% is among the whole school cohort including those already on EESIS. For example, if the school Sec 1 cohort has 400 students, top 20 students are eligible, but if 18 of them were already on EESIS, then only 2 students will get this $2400.

2. At the start of Sec 3, all those not on EESIS, have a chance to take a test from MOE. If they do well, they can get ESIP. This will last for 4 years, from year 3 to year 6 in IP school.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1157189https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1157189Thu, 28 Nov 2013 02:13:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How exactly is EESIS calculated? on Thu, 28 Nov 2013 02:05:33 GMT]]>So if a student whose initial PSLE score did not reach the EESIS cut off but went to an independent school, who subsequently does very well in year 2 and above, definitely withing top 1/3 of the cohort,


So is this student eligible for EESIS from year 2 onwards ?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1157182https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1157182Thu, 28 Nov 2013 02:05:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How exactly is EESIS calculated? on Thu, 28 Nov 2013 01:36:46 GMT]]>here is my understanding to share:

1. about the total number of pupils is granted for ESSIS
refer to MOE definition http://www.moe.gov.sg/initiatives/edusave/funds-grants-awards/eesis/
----1.1 The EESIS are awarded to Singaporean students who are in the top one-third of the total number of secondary 1 pupils admitted to all independent schools (IS)1 , based on their PSLE results.
----The independent schools are Anglo-Chinese School (Independent), Hwa Chong Institution, Methodist Girls’ School, Nanyang Girls’ High School, NUS High School, Raffles Girls School, Raffles Institution, School of the Arts, School of Science & Technology, Singapore Chinese Girls’ School, Singapore Sports School and St Joseph’s Institution.
exclude SOTA and Sports school, there are 10 schools. assume each school take 400, so 400 x 10 / 3 = 1333, look at 2013 PSLE 43000+ student, 43000 x 3% = 1291.
so we can say EESIS is top 3%.

2. about the pupils who get EESIS but won't go IP. in another word, ie. is it possible that MOE grant EESIS to pupils more than 3%.
firstly, if MOE gives more, e.g. 5%, to pupils, if just happen that all pupils go IP, how? it will debate with first rule 1/3 of pupils. it just simply create confusion and lost money.
look at MOE site,
------4.4 Students who are subsequently admitted to an IS after the Sec 1 Posting Exercise and have met the eligibility criteria will also be awarded the EESIS.
the statement is how does MOE solve the issue. ie. they give to top 3% first. if not all top3% go IP, they will fill in with others who also go IP but get lower score.

3. about COP for EESIS.
if you are eligible for EESIS, it will be printed in S1 Option Form. thanks to the \"wisdom of the masses\" or \"crowdsourcing\", we got many forum to discuss the info. so far, based on many thread from many forums, where pupils posted their score and EESIS eligibility, 258 is lowest we can see. it is not 100% sure, but good enough to use it for consideration. you may search those references.

4. about GEPer, so far the GEPer always top performer, I believe most of them will be in top3%. some of them could be lower but based on MOE
----1.2 The EESIS is also awarded to Primary 6 Gifted Education Programme (GEP) Singaporean students who:
----meet the P6 GEP promotion criteria, and
----are enrolled in the IP in an Independent School at S12.
my understanding is : it is additional EESIS to the top3%.

5. absolute number and top school COP:
in 2012, EESIS is 263 (someone say it is 262), based on last year 48000 pupils, there are 1440 pupils were granted EESIS.
in 2013, EEIS is 258, based on 43000 pupils, there are 1290 pupils. differences is 150 pupils.
if top school don't drop their places, and get same number of DSA as last year, this year may COP lower than 258 to fill up the 150 places.
but school may try to normalize the COP, by getting more DSA. so the final COP could be very close to last year.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1157159https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1157159Thu, 28 Nov 2013 01:36:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How exactly is EESIS calculated? on Tue, 26 Nov 2013 09:54:30 GMT]]>

TravelMummy:


Actually, the independent schools stated are SCGS, Sports School, SOTA, School of Science & Technology etc. The top 1/3 of these schools aren't the same as top 3% of the cohort, I don't think. So the cutoff point of 258 is really odd if it is meant for kids going to these schools.
I believe the exact words are...

the top one-third of the total number of secondary 1 pupils admitted to all independent schools

Not top 1/3 of each school.

And perhaps they are not using 1/3 to determine the number of kids but rather, it is an indicative value of those who will be awarded. The criteria is still the eesis COP.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1155765https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1155765Tue, 26 Nov 2013 09:54:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How exactly is EESIS calculated? on Mon, 25 Nov 2013 15:02:18 GMT]]>

Nebbermind:
wonderm:




TravelMummy,

Not commenting on whether it is fair or not. Just to clarify:

250 is not the EESIS cutoff for GEPper. I believe for GEPper, as long as he/she gets into an independent school, he/she will receive the EESIS. For example, if a GEPper got DSA into an IS but actual T score were 245, he will still receive EESIS.

I was told in the gep thread that they changed the requirement a year or two ago, requiring the geppers to score at least 250 to qualify for eesis.

Oh I see. Thanks for the update.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1154978https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1154978Mon, 25 Nov 2013 15:02:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How exactly is EESIS calculated? on Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:38:02 GMT]]>

lexis:
The rationale is that they don't want to deprive gep students from education at a SBGE school cos of lack of funds. Aren't most SBGE schools independent schools? I heard that even if gep kids don't go to an Indept school (but opt to go to certain schools like scgs), they are still awarded some sort of award to subsidize their education. Anyone knows?

Actually, the independent schools stated are SCGS, Sports School, SOTA, School of Science & Technology etc. The top 1/3 of these schools aren't the same as top 3% of the cohort, I don't think. So the cutoff point of 258 is really odd if it is meant for kids going to these schools.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1154958https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1154958Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:38:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How exactly is EESIS calculated? on Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:29:18 GMT]]>

wonderm:



TravelMummy,

Not commenting on whether it is fair or not. Just to clarify:

250 is not the EESIS cutoff for GEPper. I believe for GEPper, as long as he/she gets into an independent school, he/she will receive the EESIS. For example, if a GEPper got DSA into an IS but actual T score were 245, he will still receive EESIS.
I was told in the gep thread that they changed the requirement a year or two ago, requiring the geppers to score at least 250 to qualify for eesis.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1154955https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1154955Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:29:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How exactly is EESIS calculated? on Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:03:18 GMT]]>

TravelMummy:
wonderm:

I was wondering the same.


Could it be that MOE just estimate each year based on distribution of T score and gives each year's EESIS cutoff together with PSLE result? Like Jennifer said, it is very helpful for parents to know about this before making Sec school choices. After all, it is not important to be exact about giving to 1/3 of students who entered IS. This could be the same as for GEP, they say it is offered to top 1% of each cohort, but I don't think MOE changes GEP offered strictly based on this formula. It is an approximation.

The same thoughts could apply to offering to 3rd Language? Maybe 250 is not exactly top 10% of cohort, could also be approximation?

The above are just my thoughts and guesses.

And the above quote sums up the greatest irony and double standard in policy making. If 258 is the cutoff for top 3% of the cohort, then what does the dumbed down 250 cut off for GEPper for the EESIS mean? If 250 is top 10% of the cohort, is MOE trying to communicate that a top 1% student at P3 can drop to just top 10% at P6 and still be rewarded with a scholarship? Isn't that evidently a failure of the GEP system? Why should a GEP student with a T-score of 250 deprive a mainstreamer of a T-score of 257 the benefit of the EESIS? That's so irrational. Can this be even right?

TravelMummy,

Not commenting on whether it is fair or not. Just to clarify:

250 is not the EESIS cutoff for GEPper. I believe for GEPper, as long as he/she gets into an independent school, he/she will receive the EESIS. For example, if a GEPper got DSA into an IS but actual T score were 245, he will still receive EESIS.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1154919https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1154919Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:03:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How exactly is EESIS calculated? on Mon, 25 Nov 2013 13:57:53 GMT]]>The rationale is that they don’t want to deprive gep students from education at a SBGE school cos of lack of funds. Aren’t most SBGE schools independent schools? I heard that even if gep kids don’t go to an Indept school (but opt to go to certain schools like scgs), they are still awarded some sort of award to subsidize their education. Anyone knows?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1154913https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1154913Mon, 25 Nov 2013 13:57:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How exactly is EESIS calculated? on Mon, 25 Nov 2013 13:41:23 GMT]]>

wonderm:
I was wondering the same.


Could it be that MOE just estimate each year based on distribution of T score and gives each year's EESIS cutoff together with PSLE result? Like Jennifer said, it is very helpful for parents to know about this before making Sec school choices. After all, it is not important to be exact about giving to 1/3 of students who entered IS. This could be the same as for GEP, they say it is offered to top 1% of each cohort, but I don't think MOE changes GEP offered strictly based on this formula. It is an approximation.

The same thoughts could apply to offering to 3rd Language? Maybe 250 is not exactly top 10% of cohort, could also be approximation?

The above are just my thoughts and guesses.
And the above quote sums up the greatest irony and double standard in policy making. If 258 is the cutoff for top 3% of the cohort, then what does the dumbed down 250 cut off for GEPper for the EESIS mean? If 250 is top 10% of the cohort, is MOE trying to communicate that a top 1% student at P3 can drop to just top 10% at P6 and still be rewarded with a scholarship? Isn't that evidently a failure of the GEP system? Why should a GEP student with a T-score of 250 deprive a mainstreamer of a T-score of 257 the benefit of the EESIS? That's so irrational. Can this be even right?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1154896https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1154896Mon, 25 Nov 2013 13:41:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How exactly is EESIS calculated? on Mon, 25 Nov 2013 13:24:03 GMT]]>

Dreamgear:
TravelMummy:

Reading various threads in various forums, there seems to be some real confusion on how the EEIS cut-off is calculated. The MOE website says it is the top 1/3 of all school pupils going to IP schools. In this forum, it is referred to top 3% of the cohort. While there may be some overlaps, these 2 are not necessarily the same. Currently, apart from the DSA kids, we don't really know who the top 1/3 of these kids going to the IP schools are, and their scores. We don't even know the cut-off points of what the IP schools are. Yet the EEIS cut-off has been confirmed to be 258 this year, according to a conversation with MOE by a forummer. Anyone cares to clarify or shed some light please?


Because we dont know who is going to independence school at this point in time, we can safely assume its the top 3% of the conhort.

So what happens if not all of these top 3% take up the EESIS since not all of the eligible ones choose to go independent schools? Does MOE then give out the remainder of the scholarships that were not taken up, given that the criteria is 1/3 of total sec 1 admitted to independent schools? Eg those kids going to TJ, VJ, DHS or NJ may be among top 3% but won't take up the EESIS. Shouldn't these scholarships be given out to the next 0.5% and so on, since the criteria is never top 3%. Also, why are the bonus points for HMT not included in the calculation of marks for kids going to the SAP independent schools since these schools require HMT? These kids have studied an additional subject over and above the required ones. Shouldnt that at least be taken into consideration when identifying top kids? And the greatest irony of all is that GEPpers are subjected to an even lower hurdle rate than main streamers, despite being allocated the best resources. Why is the implementation of the EESIS so oddly carried out? To establish a cutoff point even before kids select their schools is obviously a very flawed implementation of stated policy, like putting the cart before the horse.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1154878https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1154878Mon, 25 Nov 2013 13:24:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How exactly is EESIS calculated? on Mon, 25 Nov 2013 03:09:40 GMT]]>

TravelMummy:
Reading various threads in various forums, there seems to be some real confusion on how the EEIS cut-off is calculated. The MOE website says it is the top 1/3 of all school pupils going to IP schools. In this forum, it is referred to top 3% of the cohort. While there may be some overlaps, these 2 are not necessarily the same. Currently, apart from the DSA kids, we don't really know who the top 1/3 of these kids going to the IP schools are, and their scores. We don't even know the cut-off points of what the IP schools are. Yet the EEIS cut-off has been confirmed to be 258 this year, according to a conversation with MOE by a forummer. Anyone cares to clarify or shed some light please?

Because we dont know who is going to independence school at this point in time, we can safely assume its the top 3% of the conhort.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1154229https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1154229Mon, 25 Nov 2013 03:09:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How exactly is EESIS calculated? on Mon, 25 Nov 2013 02:55:01 GMT]]>

jetsetter:
Jennifer:

Knowing whether the child qualifies for scholarship helps some underprivileged families to make a choice now.


:goodpost:

They do get to know. If your kid is eligible for EESIS, it will be mentioned in his P&C S1 posting letter on the day PSLE results are released.

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