<![CDATA[Ang Mo Kio Tragedy ....]]>Have been following the news for the past few days and feeling very sad for the mummy and children.


From the photos it look like the mummy is pregnant with another one. How can the man be so heartless and selfish to rob the children of their life...

http://www.asiaone.com/static/multimedia/gallery/091109_amkfire/ 😞

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buds:
Every family has their issues, just because one family is featured on Page 1 doesn't exactly make my family any better than theirs. Though it is sad to hear / know of such tragedies and empathize with the situation, it is a good way to reflect on how sound my family is to avoid such incidences featured in the papers. Somehow, i find we'll never really know what is in store for us in the future... no matter how hard we have prepared for it. God will test us in many ways. Truth be told, i've been tested heavily... on a personal level and also at family level. It is really up to us how we are going to take it, resolve it and get on with our lives positively from then on... Just my sharings.. :oops:

Hey buds, u spoke my mind... :hugs:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/79191https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/79191Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:49:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Ang Mo Kio Tragedy .... on Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:34:06 GMT]]>Act of cowardice / selfishness or not, i still have reservations of the facts printed in the papers. Most times, the accuracy level is so-so oni... I oso have this thing about judging people at face value. I dunno them well enuf to do so, hence i find it unfair. Many things must've revolved around their family relationship that was not public knowledge. Every family has their issues, just because one family is featured on Page 1 doesn't exactly make my family any better than theirs. Though it is sad to hear / know of such tragedies and empathize with the situation, it is a good way to reflect on how sound my family is to avoid such incidences featured in the papers. Somehow, i find we'll never really know what is in store for us in the future... no matter how hard we have prepared for it. God will test us in many ways. Truth be told, i've been tested heavily... on a personal level and also at family level. It is really up to us how we are going to take it, resolve it and get on with our lives positively from then on... Just my sharings.. :oops:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/79119https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/79119Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:34:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Ang Mo Kio Tragedy .... on Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:18:32 GMT]]>I feel regardless of the reasons, he is being very selfish.

What right does he have to rob others of the right to live?

When he made a mistake, he wanted others to sacrific with him.
If one feels that he is heavily in debt and there is no way he can escape and need to die, he can commit suicide by all means. But leave the innocents alone!

I SERIOUSLY dun feel it is an act of LOVE, rather it is an ACT OF CORWARD!

If a person is married, he ought to be RESPONSIBLE and not landing himself into huge debts and make everyone in the family pays for it, whether they are alive or dead!

I really detest these type of people!

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/79114https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/79114Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:18:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Ang Mo Kio Tragedy .... on Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:23:31 GMT]]>

tankee:

And since he was a bankrupt since 2003, he should be sensible enough and responsible enough NOT to have children ... :x
If we are not able to provide a decent environment for a child to grow, we as adults should never have children.
Sometimes, if we wait till we have the right and decent environment to have children, we might never get the chance to have one at all.........I think it's not a fair judgement and sad to expect and ask of all those who are underpriviledged, very poor or bankrupt not to have any children, who is to noe what is to expect of the future? We may be in a very comfortable and conducive environment now but situations may change the next min, how are we to judge and define when or what is a decent environment to have children? Sorry jus my 2 cents worth......

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/75617https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/75617Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:23:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Ang Mo Kio Tragedy .... on Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:09:22 GMT]]>Alas... it's really sad to hear about such tragedies happening... 😞 in fact, they can be prevented as long as one adopts the right mindset in life.... in the end, the kids are the ultimate victims....


This is one good read about managing anger that parents should take a look at.... a reminder that we might need from time to time... http://www.todaysmotherhood.com/how-should-parents-manage-anger/

Be positive!!

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/75580https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/75580Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:09:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Ang Mo Kio Tragedy .... on Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:41:45 GMT]]>

Funz:
insider:


PS: Given that the gambling woes have been for sometimes, the wife should have been more careful with the timing of her 3rd pregnancy. The baby in her tummy suffers lots even before birth...

Is the wife really pregnant with the 3rd child?

not too sure, looks like she is from one of the picture but the family say she is not...

But I don't agree that wives can foresee the man is going to kill though...from all accounts she might think the kids a safe with hiim because he appear to be a loving father....

Sad to say, such things happen often enough for there to be a term for it by criminal psychologists :

\"Dr. Levin has provided a profile of the family annihilator as a middle-aged man, who appears to others (outside the family) to be a good provider, a loving father, and a faithful and loving husband. But he tends to be isolated, with no close friends or support system of his own, aside from his family. He has suffered with feelings of inadequacy and some form of long frustration.But he tends to be isolated, with no close friends or support system of his own, aside from his family. He has suffered with feelings of inadequacy and some form of long frustration. Ultimately, he suffers some catastrophic loss which leads to his crime. This trigger may be the loss of his job, or loss of money through a bad investment, but sometimes it is the impending loss of his wife. He doesn't hate his children, although he may hate his wife and blame her for his own problems. He has previously been a controlling man, within the family, but now feels powerless. Dr. Levin's belief is that the family annihilator wants revenge against his wife.\" ....

\"Can crimes like this be prevented? Probably not. Dr. Yellowlees said that it can take a long time, even years, for a woman to realize that her husband views her as a possession, and that \"initially, a woman can feel flattered\" if her partner displays jealousy. By the time she realizes the degree of his possessiveness, it may be too late. Whether this obsessive possiveness leads to rage or frustration and feelings of failure, the family annihilator believes his best course of action is to destroy his family, and he does so with cunning and careful planning.\"


http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/266087/the_family_annihilator_fathers_who.html?singlepage=true&cat=17

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/74145https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/74145Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:41:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Ang Mo Kio Tragedy .... on Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:47:04 GMT]]>whatever the reason, there is no excuse to take the 2 young innocent lives with him.


And since he was a bankrupt since 2003, he should be sensible enough and responsible enough NOT to have children … :x

If we are not able to provide a decent environment for a child to grow, we as adults should never have children.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/74136https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/74136Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:47:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Ang Mo Kio Tragedy .... on Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:47:26 GMT]]>

insider:
In sailing through a stormy marriage, the ability to maintain calm and objective will decide on how much one will 'win' if divorce is brought up to the table.


Cannot blame the wife for maybe heated exchanges with the husband as she is still quite young to handle the bad situation.

When custody of children is concerned, if dealing with 'mad' people, have to plan it properly and cannot try to 'force get' something. Many times 'lose' is 'win' and 'win' is 'lose' and at times may have to step back to win at the end.


缘份深/善多远都会回来、缘份浅/恶再近也会离去。


PS: Given that the gambling woes have been for sometimes, the wife should have been more careful with the timing of her 3rd pregnancy. The baby in her tummy suffers lots even before birth...
Is the wife really pregnant with the 3rd child?

Why should the onus of preventing the pregnancy lie with only the wife?

If she is really pregnant, then agree that since they are already in financial difficulty, they should have taken steps to prevent another pregnancy but the responsibility lies with both, not just the wife.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/74118https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/74118Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:47:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Ang Mo Kio Tragedy .... on Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:38:29 GMT]]>

insider:

针对爆料者所言，《晚报》记者上网查询，证实黄志强在2003年10月份被判入穷籍，拖欠的债务约13万2000元。
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That was six years ago before the first child is born... after having children, should know better....somemore he is in his late 30s already...should know better than to spend beyond his means.

sees the family is quite angered over the rumours about the wife...don't see other reports that say the kids the wife's though...

双方亲友辟谣

夺走3条人命的宏茂桥家庭悲剧，今早有进一步的发展，男女双方家人，都针对坊间的传闻作出辟谣。

原来，这起悲剧发生后，坊间市面竟然盛传，导致这起悲剧是因为有第三者介入造成的，而且言之凿凿，一传十、十传百，使到男女双方家人都感到非常气愤。

男死者的弟弟今早在殓尸房受访时说，男死者与妻子“夫妻之间没有问题”，表示两人的关系良好。

另一方面，女方的远房亲戚也拨打本报热线说，根本就没有第三者，夫妻俩很恩爱。



http://news.omy.sg/News/Local%2BNews/Story/OMYStory200911101557-104441/2.html

友人说，死者和妻子，都表示要得到两个孩子的抚养权，两人多次为次争吵，两人都不愿意让步。

“他说，一定要拿到孩子的抚养权，甚至还恫言说，如果妻子跟他争两个孩子，他两个都不会给，会把两个孩子带走。”

据了解，妻子也坚持不肯退让，已找律师处理离婚。

“死者很担心自己会输，也认为自己会输，胡思乱想才会酿成悲剧。”

....seems the selfish jerk just wants to \"win\" He sees the children as property and disregard their welfare.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/74101https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/74101Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:38:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Ang Mo Kio Tragedy .... on Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:38:00 GMT]]>children are innocent. whatever his motive he did the worst thing any father can do to his children. He commited the ultimate betrayal. The hurt he have cause his children during their final moments, his parents, his wife and all who love and know him or his children is beyond repair…


This may sound hash, but I think he deserve to rot in hell for what he did…

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/74063https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/74063Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:38:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Ang Mo Kio Tragedy .... on Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:29:21 GMT]]>From another point, I think may be the husband wanted to end his life due to his debt. But he felt it would be difficult for his wife to take care of one unborn baby and 2 more kids. So it was OUT OF LOVE that he was doing so…

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/73958https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/73958Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:29:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Ang Mo Kio Tragedy .... on Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:02:15 GMT]]>wonder what can be done to change such convoluted mindset/ change the outlook of one with such a mind set …There were reports of the kids screaming before anyone realise what is happening. I will imagine that a person with empathy will be able to see the suffering he is bringing to the child. Seems to me too that he is using the kids to hurt the wife.


Scary thing is this kind of mindset is not that uncommon. I have a friend who wanted to leave a bad marriage (hb womanising) but backout partly because she feared that the hb may do such a thing… he had said things and act in a way that make her fear such a possiblity.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/73937https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/73937Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:02:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Ang Mo Kio Tragedy .... on Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:42:37 GMT]]>huh? out of love? then why didn’t he wait until the wife is there to ‘bring’ her along? Methinks this is not one of those ‘out of love’ instance. She was away and therefore he was able to strike at the 2 innocent kids - seems more like he was trying to get back at his wife. :x :x


Hope that the wife will have the strength to pull herself together and take care of her newborn. What’s past cannot be reversed, she can only look forward and make sure her baby and her lead good lives going forward.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/73916https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/73916Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:42:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Ang Mo Kio Tragedy .... on Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:03:09 GMT]]>Things must be real hard for the father… But why must take the two young children along, they are innocent. My heart goes out to the mother, hope tt she can survive this painful ordeal…

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