limster\" post_id=\"2093276\" time=\"1671790737\" user_id=\"200360:

Hahaha PFP is not elite enough... reddit has massive info Thanks for referral!

kaisuism\" post_id=\"2093274\" time=\"1671790403\" user_id=\"199574:

You mean here? I don't think have because over here is quite elitist, mainly on top primary schools, IP schools, jCs, all sorts of olympiads and a lot of tuition/enrichment centres. You can go to reddit. There are more info there.

limster\" post_id=\"2093273\" time=\"1671790040\" user_id=\"200360:

My child eligible for PFP. Where can i find chats rgding PFP and poly courses?

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2092618\" time=\"1671533907\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2092618 time=1671533907 user_id=53606]
2022 S1 batch was the first batch which took PSLE under AL system.

So the change (I believe a relaxation) in SBB eligibility criteria is linked to the change from T score to AL score. I tried to search, but could not find the Express SBB criteria under T score. Was it an A grade? If so, that was 75 marks (before Transformation I presume). The AL criteria for Express SBB is AL5 (65 marks).[/quote]

SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2092617\" time=\"1671532186\" user_id=\"188234:

Do you know how the SBB criteria changed with the 2022 S1s? The 2021 PSLE results said 65% of NA students were eligible to take at least one subject at a more demanding level vs. 47% with the 2021 S1s (2020 PSLE) due to a change in eligibility criteria. The 2022 PSLE results said 62% of NA and NT are eligible to take at least one subject at a more demanding level.

I think the last two years Sec 5 cohort size has been ~3k+ (~7k+ would start Sec 1 NA in recent years).

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2092614\" time=\"1671530042\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2092614 time=1671530042 user_id=53606]
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/gce-normal-academic-exam-results-2022-seab-3154156?cid=internal_sharetool_iphone_20122022_cna

“This year, 51.9 per cent of the school candidates from the N(A) course also sat for subjects in the O-Level examinations, said MOE and SEAB.

Schools consider their combined N(A)-Level and school-based O-Level preliminary examination results when determining their eligibility for progression to Secondary 5 N(A) or post-secondary pathways.

The candidates must obtain an aggregate of 19 points or lower in English, Mathematics and the best three subjects (ELMAB3), and at least a Grade 5 for all subjects used in the computation of the ELMAB3 to qualify for Secondary 5 N(A).”

51.9% is quite a good proportion. I was under the impression that the Sec 4 NA were discouraged by their teachers/schools to continue on to Sec 5 for O levels. Glad to know it’s probably not so.[/quote]

KowaittLin6\" post_id=\"2045918\" time=\"1636625924\" user_id=\"195745:

Hello. I am new to this forum.

I am a secondary 3NA student. my school naval base does not offer a-math to NA students. if I was to sign up as a private candidate when I graduate from school meaning I'm not part of the sch anymore. will I be able to register?

regard,
K.

Belarin\" post_id=\"2044550\" time=\"1635841952\" user_id=\"195435:

slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2044519\" time=\"1635831615\" user_id=\"28674:

I agree with floppy. It is not easy to say, or to hear, but the hard truth is that a student who missed the mark to enter Express is not likely to do well enough overall to get good enough A level grades to get into a choice course like Medicine. Yes, there are the rare and unique cases of students who were in ITE and later got a place in Medicine, but they are featured in the news because they are so rare. And often, they are the students who had some issues in their younger days and hence didn't study hard, or were distracted, not students who had been diligent all along.

The other consideration is that a student with poor A levels has very few avenues to proceed, and not much scope to get jobs. It's much better to have a diploma, and if your son goes that route and doesn't make it to university, that way he has a better chance of getting a job.

You know how hard it was for my kid. He was originally from NT (Lack of Motivation) and he worked hard to scoring nearly to Express of course it isn't good but for the sake of his Art talent, enrolled him to XXXX school. I think that people like him with progressive motivation and dedication will do well. He doesn't breakdown ever I think that his stress capacity is much bigger than some kiddos. Every kid has the right to go to their desired course it is a matter of their behaviour towards studying. If a person could not handle even the slightest stress does not fit for medicine for example. Hard nor easy it depends on the kiddo's behaviour. Psychologically, it does not mean that a N(A) kid is slower than Express kid means his ability to do things is moderate. There is a thing called behavioural progression. Motivation goes time to time it either increase or decrease. Even some Express kiddos got all D's because lack of motivation <- not all but some.

floppy\" post_id=\"2044508\" time=\"1635827758\" user_id=\"97579:

Frankly, many schools are like that. It isn’t unusual for schools not to offer A Math for their NA student. If majority of them are heading towards ITE or poly, A Math is strategically less important than another subject. While some of their students may be considering JC, the hard truth is many would not make the cut and even for those that do, the poly route could still be a better alternative.

It’s worthwhile to remember that JC isn’t the end point; if you can’t get pass the average performing student, you are down to few or no option for a local university. Furthermore, we aren’t talking about an average course in university here; the local medicine programme requires you to be among the best in the cohort.

All these discussion about A Math is missing that focus. Some wise guru says, “begin with the end in mind.” If the end is a place in the local university’s med fac, choosing a path that requires the NA student to clear most of the express students at O Level and the likes of RJC / HCI / VJC / NYJC etc students at A Level, is probably the most arduous and challenging option that one can think of. Rate of success? Let’s get real.

IMy suggestion would be to focus on doing well for N Level, use the advantage of SBB and the advantage of being a NA student to secure a place in the local poly via PFP. Choose a science based course that offers a path to med. Why play catch up when you can get a head start over everyone else with a year in the poly building up the required foundation, instead of worrying about differentiation and integration.

Belarin\" post_id=\"2044550\" time=\"1635841952\" user_id=\"195435:

slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2044519\" time=\"1635831615\" user_id=\"28674:

I agree with floppy. It is not easy to say, or to hear, but the hard truth is that a student who missed the mark to enter Express is not likely to do well enough overall to get good enough A level grades to get into a choice course like Medicine. Yes, there are the rare and unique cases of students who were in ITE and later got a place in Medicine, but they are featured in the news because they are so rare. And often, they are the students who had some issues in their younger days and hence didn't study hard, or were distracted, not students who had been diligent all along.

The other consideration is that a student with poor A levels has very few avenues to proceed, and not much scope to get jobs. It's much better to have a diploma, and if your son goes that route and doesn't make it to university, that way he has a better chance of getting a job.

You know how hard it was for my kid. He was originally from NT (Lack of Motivation) and he worked hard to scoring nearly to Express of course it isn't good but for the sake of his Art talent, enrolled him to XXXX school. I think that people like him with progressive motivation and dedication will do well. He doesn't breakdown ever I think that his stress capacity is much bigger than some kiddos. Every kid has the right to go to their desired course it is a matter of their behaviour towards studying. If a person could not handle even the slightest stress does not fit for medicine for example. Hard nor easy it depends on the kiddo's behaviour. Psychologically, it does not mean that a N(A) kid is slower than Express kid means his ability to do things is moderate. There is a thing called behavioural progression. Motivation goes time to time it either increase or decrease. Even some Express kiddos got all D's because lack of motivation <- not all but some.

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2044524\" time=\"1635834116\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2044524 time=1635834116 user_id=53606]
What if the reason the child is in NA was solely due to Chinese dragging down the PSLE score? Would the advice be the same?[/quote]

slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2044519\" time=\"1635831615\" user_id=\"28674:

I agree with floppy. It is not easy to say, or to hear, but the hard truth is that a student who missed the mark to enter Express is not likely to do well enough overall to get good enough A level grades to get into a choice course like Medicine. Yes, there are the rare and unique cases of students who were in ITE and later got a place in Medicine, but they are featured in the news because they are so rare. And often, they are the students who had some issues in their younger days and hence didn't study hard, or were distracted, not students who had been diligent all along.

The other consideration is that a student with poor A levels has very few avenues to proceed, and not much scope to get jobs. It's much better to have a diploma, and if your son goes that route and doesn't make it to university, that way he has a better chance of getting a job.

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2044524\" time=\"1635834116\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2044524 time=1635834116 user_id=53606]
What if the reason the child is in NA was solely due to Chinese dragging down the PSLE score? Would the advice be the same?[/quote]