<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Abolition of PSLE scores begins with current P5 in 2014?]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>hnghng:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">But my boy school teacher told them no T score for them this year!!</blockquote></blockquote><br />If is this year : MOE would have  announced in the press, at least  one or two years in advance, to give early notice to students impacted, to get all students sitting for 2015 Psle mentally prepared first<br /><br />Moe do not do things last minute. <br />She give ample time to people, to be mentally prepared, ESP if something so major like Psle that affect thousands of P6 students, across whole of Sg<br /><br />However, school Principal had alerted my child's school that this new change coming is going to impact, take effect with a batch a few years down the road, but she did not announce wef which batch, since Moe had not officially announced start from which batch, yet<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/69352/abolition-of-psle-scores-begins-with-current-p5-in-2014</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Sat, 02 May 2026 23:41:23 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/69352.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2015 13:21:49 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abolition of PSLE scores begins with current P5 in 2014? on Sun, 12 Apr 2015 12:11:21 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">call MOE hotline to ask directly?Beats any speculation</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1488548</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1488548</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[sleepy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2015 12:11:21 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abolition of PSLE scores begins with current P5 in 2014? on Sun, 12 Apr 2015 12:04:42 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">But my boy school teacher told them no T score for them this year!!</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1488546</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1488546</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[hnghng]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2015 12:04:42 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abolition of PSLE scores begins with current P5 in 2014? on Sun, 12 Apr 2015 10:18:59 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">won’t be implemented, for this year 2015 Psle, born 2003<br /><br /><br />Psle 2015 batch : will still face T-score</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1488517</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1488517</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[phtthp]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2015 10:18:59 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abolition of PSLE scores begins with current P5 in 2014? on Sun, 12 Apr 2015 08:48:38 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Any news for no more T score for this year PSLE?</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1488499</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1488499</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[hnghng]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2015 08:48:38 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abolition of PSLE scores begins with current P5 in 2014? on Sun, 12 Apr 2015 08:45:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Any news for no more T score for this year PSLE?</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1488496</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1488496</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[hnghng]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2015 08:45:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abolition of PSLE scores begins with current P5 in 2014? on Tue, 25 Nov 2014 10:10:25 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>jetsetter:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>pirated:</b><p>If the range of courses and number of places available are reasonable and fit the demographic requirement, the competition at psle could be tremendously reduced to reach a more holistic learning process and at a pace suited everyone's ability and environment. <br /><br /><br />A national education is in order, aka brain washing for everyone to recognise that not everyone in the population is uni inclined and holding lower qualification not doing glamorous job is not the end of the world.</p></blockquote></blockquote> :goodpost: <br /><br />But hard to get buy in<p></p></blockquote>职业不分贵贱? All jarbs are good jarbs?   :scratchhead:<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1422206</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1422206</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[sinoboy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 10:10:25 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abolition of PSLE scores begins with current P5 in 2014? on Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:49:06 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>jetsetter:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>pirate:</b><p>[quote=\"pirated\"]A national education is in order, aka brain washing for everyone to recognise that not everyone in the population is uni inclined and holding lower qualification not doing glamorous job is not the end of the world.</p></blockquote></blockquote><br />I thought nowadays the national education is for everyone to recognize that even got uni degree but still not doing glamorous job is normal.  :siam:<p></p></blockquote>Too funny!!!<br /><br />Also true![/quote]It boils down to this : plumbers and electricians are all foreigners. <br /><br />The sewage line got problem and the overseas plumbers are having holidays ... got to bear with the stench; or the power trip on the night and the electrician say \"sorry aunty I am in KL\" .,, and you wonder why he so KL.....we need national education on essential services need not be glamorous but essential and meaningful in life too, not just investment bankers who are sometime crooks !<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1422193</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1422193</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[pirated]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:49:06 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abolition of PSLE scores begins with current P5 in 2014? on Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:33:31 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>pirate:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>pirated:</b><p>A national education is in order, aka brain washing for everyone to recognise that not everyone in the population is uni inclined and holding lower qualification not doing glamorous job is not the end of the world.</p></blockquote></blockquote><br />I thought nowadays the national education is for everyone to recognize that even got uni degree but still not doing glamorous job is normal.  :siam:<p></p></blockquote>Too funny!!!<br /><br />Also true!<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1422179</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1422179</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jetsetter]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:33:31 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abolition of PSLE scores begins with current P5 in 2014? on Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:31:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>pirated:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">If the range of courses and number of places available are reasonable and fit the demographic requirement, the competition at psle could be tremendously reduced to reach a more holistic learning process and at a pace suited everyone's ability and environment. <br /><br /><br />A national education is in order, aka brain washing for everyone to recognise that not everyone in the population is uni inclined and holding lower qualification not doing glamorous job is not the end of the world.</blockquote></blockquote> :goodpost: <br /><br />But hard to get buy in<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1422176</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1422176</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jetsetter]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:31:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abolition of PSLE scores begins with current P5 in 2014? on Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:29:16 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>pirated:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>sinoboy:</b><p>[quote=\"pirated\"]some OZ unis have additonal intake in Feb, in addition to the Aug/Sept intake</p></blockquote></blockquote><br />If I had the ability I would have sent my children overseas for o and a levels. It's easier to ace their O and As. No resources mean don't dream about overseas dream school, dream about local dream schools.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f606.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--laughing" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":laughing:" alt="😆" /><p></p></blockquote>You have exposed another problem. <br /><br />Local Uni here have too many places allocated to foreigners in order to achiever higher ranking internationally at the expense of local lao bai Xin who had no choice but to look overseas contributing to other countries' economy and risking not returning to SG <br /><br />Further more, <span style="\&quot;color:">the range of courses available locally also do not keep pace with demographic development here, </span>resulting in million and million of dollars draining overseas. Policy makers reading this should know what I am referring to![/quote]Meanwhile...<br /> <img src="\&quot;http://i62.tinypic.com/148htmx.jpg\&quot;" /><img src="\&quot;&lt;a" />http://i62.tinypic.com/148htmx.jpg\"&gt;<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1422173</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1422173</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jetsetter]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:29:16 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abolition of PSLE scores begins with current P5 in 2014? on Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:19:08 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>pirated:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">A national education is in order, aka brain washing for everyone to recognise that not everyone in the population is uni inclined and holding lower qualification not doing glamorous job is not the end of the world.</blockquote></blockquote><br />I thought nowadays the national education is for everyone to recognize that even got uni degree but still not doing glamorous job is normal.  :siam:<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1422165</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1422165</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[pirate]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:19:08 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abolition of PSLE scores begins with current P5 in 2014? on Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:12:42 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">If the range of courses and number of places available are reasonable and fit the demographic requirement, the competition at psle could be tremendously reduced to reach a more holistic learning process and at a pace suited everyone’s ability and environment. <br /><br /><br />A national education is in order, aka brain washing for everyone to recognise that not everyone in the population is uni inclined and holding lower qualification not doing glamorous job is not the end of the world.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1422162</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1422162</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[pirated]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:12:42 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abolition of PSLE scores begins with current P5 in 2014? on Tue, 25 Nov 2014 08:58:42 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>sinoboy:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>pirated:</b><p>some OZ unis have additonal intake in Feb, in addition to the Aug/Sept intake</p></blockquote></blockquote><br />If I had the ability I would have sent my children overseas for o and a levels. It's easier to ace their O and As. No resources mean don't dream about overseas dream school, dream about local dream schools.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f606.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--laughing" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":laughing:" alt="😆" /><p></p></blockquote>You have exposed another problem. <br /><br />Local Uni here have too many places allocated to foreigners in order to achiever higher ranking internationally at the expense of local lao bai Xin who had no choice but to look overseas contributing to other countries' economy and risking not returning to SG <br /><br />Further more, the range of courses available locally also do not keep pace with demographic development here, resulting in million and million of dollars draining overseas. Policy makers reading this should know what I am referring to!<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1422137</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1422137</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[pirated]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 08:58:42 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abolition of PSLE scores begins with current P5 in 2014? on Tue, 25 Nov 2014 08:46:26 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>pirated:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">some OZ unis have additonal intake in Feb, in addition to the Aug/Sept intake</blockquote></blockquote><br />If I had the ability I would have sent my children overseas for o and a levels. It's easier to ace their O and As. No resources mean don't dream about overseas dream school, dream about local dream schools.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f606.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--laughing" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":laughing:" alt="😆" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1422125</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1422125</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[sinoboy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 08:46:26 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abolition of PSLE scores begins with current P5 in 2014? on Tue, 25 Nov 2014 06:21:48 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">some OZ unis have additonal intake in Feb, in addition to the Aug/Sept intake</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1421980</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1421980</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[pirated]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 06:21:48 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abolition of PSLE scores begins with current P5 in 2014? on Tue, 25 Nov 2014 05:43:17 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>sinoboy:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>pirated:</b><p>[quote=\"jetsetter\"]How abt abolish PSLE?<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.ipscommons.sg/the-case-for-doing-away-with-the-psle/">http://www.ipscommons.sg/the-case-for-doing-away-with-the-psle/</a></p></blockquote></blockquote>good policy paper<br /><br />but mindset is hard to change<br /><br />may be my grand children will still be under the t-score system<br /><br />not necessary that the kids are not mature at 12 y/o to be nationally tested - the question is - is it the right time ? perhaps 3 years later?<br /><br />eg change the sec school + JC of 4 yrs + 2 yrs to 3+3, and testing at end of sec 3, then another 3 years leading to A level, like in China, only the gao kao determines the uni entrance with the pri school exam inconsequential<p></p></blockquote>There are broad implications when you apply changes like what you have suggested. <span style="\&quot;color:">It might affect our NS system and perhaps our tertiary education cycle.</span> It may also affect the number of people coming here to study as an intermediate step to going to foreign universities. The assumption is also all PSLE candidates are 12 years old when some of them are not. Delaying the exam to allow students to mature may still give the even more matured students an edge. So why not just keep the PSLE but do away with t score and let the system do the posting based on some criteria and everybody be happy?  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f937.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--shrug" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":shrug:" alt="🤷" />[/quote]Won't impact...like pirated said, no of years adds up to be the same (6+3+3).  <a href="http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=48&amp;t=63228&amp;p=1126021&amp;hilit=HK+exams#p1126021">http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=48&amp;t=63228&amp;p=1126021&amp;hilit=HK+exams#p1126021</a>.<br /><br /> In fact, scrap or dun scrap, we will forever be 9 academic mths lagging behind other foreign unis' calendars which typically commence in late Sep-early Oct, whereas China's academic calendar is in sync with those in western countries.  Gao kao is in June and P1 gets admitted in Sep. <br /><br />NS enlistment won't be impacted.<br /><br />Thought I posted something on <a href="http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=68527&amp;p=1199823&amp;hilit=HKDSE#p1199823">http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=68527&amp;p=1199823&amp;hilit=HKDSE#p1199823</a> long long time ago...food for thought, not necessarily the best solution for our country.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1421919</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1421919</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jetsetter]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 05:43:17 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abolition of PSLE scores begins with current P5 in 2014? on Tue, 25 Nov 2014 04:31:39 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>pirate:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>sinoboy:</b><p>With the new system of allocation with no t score and no appeal once posting or DSA confirmed, administratively it will be easier for the schools. No need to announce top scorers. The principals and teachers of the popular good school can free up more time to do more teaching and improve the good students rather than answering phone calls on enquires, appeals and entertain cry father and mothers. Other good schools can get a fair share of good top students. It's win win in the long term.</p></blockquote></blockquote><br />That's the theory. In practice, it will not work so long as secondary schools are allowed to admit nobody knows what proportion of students by DSA academic.<p></p></blockquote>The intake via DSA of either academic or sports may be much higher than now. And since DSA is before PSLE, it's a higher probability of getting into the dream school before the random posting of the rest of the non DSA-abled people. So DSA is important. While there is a cost to each DSA application, at least there is peace of mind after getting a CO. So more DSA intake less stress overall. It's a win win.   <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f192.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--cool" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":cool:" alt="🆒" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1421867</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1421867</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[sinoboy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 04:31:39 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abolition of PSLE scores begins with current P5 in 2014? on Tue, 25 Nov 2014 03:11:11 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>sinoboy:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">With the new system of allocation with no t score and no appeal once posting or DSA confirmed, administratively it will be easier for the schools. No need to announce top scorers. The principals and teachers of the popular good school can free up more time to do more teaching and improve the good students rather than answering phone calls on enquires, appeals and entertain cry father and mothers. Other good schools can get a fair share of good top students. It's win win in the long term.</blockquote></blockquote><br />That's the theory. In practice, it will not work so long as secondary schools are allowed to admit nobody knows what proportion of students by DSA academic.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1421801</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1421801</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[pirate]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 03:11:11 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abolition of PSLE scores begins with current P5 in 2014? on Tue, 25 Nov 2014 02:32:48 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>pixiedust:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>Aberc:</b><p>I thought that with more feedback from the public, there should be increasing transparency but instead, we seem to be regressing. From not disclosing secondary school banding to not releasing individual school's psle high scores to the possible removal of the tscore altogether, I wonder if all the dialogue is backfiring on parents and students instead? </p></blockquote></blockquote><br />Agree ! That's why I wonder if the policy makers are really thinking of solutions or dishing out quick fixes OR maybe it is a clever way to discourage feedback  :censored: Sorry, I am just so  :stupid: <br /><br />Competition and banding are inevitable as we have limited resource.<br />All schools are good schools <span style="\&quot;font-size:">some are better than others</span><p></p></blockquote>With the new system of allocation with no t score and no appeal once posting or DSA confirmed, administratively it will be easier for the schools. No need to announce top scorers. The principals and teachers of the popular good school can free up more time to do more teaching and improve the good students rather than answering phone calls on enquires, appeals and entertain cry father and mothers. Other good schools can get a fair share of good top students. It's win win in the long term.<br /><br />The only busy people will most likely be parents in sec 1 in each institution to tabulate how many students coming from which primary school to gauge which primary school is better.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f192.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--cool" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":cool:" alt="🆒" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1421767</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1421767</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[sinoboy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 02:32:48 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abolition of PSLE scores begins with current P5 in 2014? on Tue, 25 Nov 2014 01:44:36 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Aberc:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">I thought that with more feedback from the public, there should be increasing transparency but instead, we seem to be regressing. From not disclosing secondary school banding to not releasing individual school's psle high scores to the possible removal of the tscore altogether, I wonder if all the dialogue is backfiring on parents and students instead? </blockquote></blockquote><br />Agree ! That's why I wonder if the policy makers are really thinking of solutions or dishing out quick fixes OR maybe it is a clever way to discourage feedback  :censored: Sorry, I am just so  :stupid: <br /><br />Competition and banding are inevitable as we have limited resource.<br />All schools are good schools <span style="\&quot;font-size:">some are better than others</span><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1421716</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1421716</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[pixiedust]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 01:44:36 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abolition of PSLE scores begins with current P5 in 2014? on Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:53:58 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I thought that with more feedback from the public, there should be increasing transparency but instead, we seem to be regressing. From not disclosing secondary school banding to not releasing individual school’s psle high scores to the possible removal of the tscore altogether, I wonder if all the dialogue is backfiring on parents and students instead?<br /><br /><br />I was browsing through MOE’s past press releases in 2004 and came across a table showing the number of vacancies available in the first batch of IP schools for S1 posting after DSA and how many vacancies the principals have held back for discretionary admission. Shouldn’t this be the type of info that parents should have access to?</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1421642</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1421642</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Aberc]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:53:58 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abolition of PSLE scores begins with current P5 in 2014? on Mon, 24 Nov 2014 16:24:25 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>lee_yl:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><br />Very likely to kick in after the next General Election, else many parents with psle kids WILL NOT vote for the govt.<br /><br />I am a concerned parent because I have two kids waiting to take psle  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f64f.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--pray" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":pray:" alt="🙏" /> <br />Suay suay one of my children kanna being the first batch. <br />I fully agree that the first few batches WILL be sacrificed as guinea pigs until the new system reaches an equilibrium, at least 3-5yrs after the new system kicked in.<br /><br />First of all, the parents want the govt to reduce the stress of excessive tuition, avoid sorting children to the last decimal point, GEP/DSA hothousing (how to clear the GAT and interview), etc etc. <br /><br />Now, this major unknown is going to add to all the parents' stress with the above mentioned still not resolved. <br /><b><b> Even with removal of t-score, children are still being sorted</b></b>...</blockquote></blockquote>Yes, even with the removal of T-score -<br />children are still banded.<br />assorted into different band range.<br /><br /><br />so, if a child gets sorted into one band with high score(s) :<br /> new system assign child to a Top Tier Secondary school.<br /><br />next, if a child gets thrown into a band with mid range marks : <br />new system assign child to a Second Tier Secondary school.<br /><br />so on, and so forth<br /><br /><br />the band can be  wide<br />example<br /><br />4A* : min 256  max 280 <br /><br />3A*, 1A : min 252 max 264<br /><br />2A*, 2A : min 238 max 256<br /><br />1A* 3A. : min 240 max 250 <br /><br />4A: min 229 max 250 <br /><br />(reference source for banding) :<br /><a href="http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum">http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum</a> ... &amp;start=380<br /><br />within a particular band -<br />parents don't know what is their child's actual T-score : because schools not going to disclose;  parents  kept in the dark.<br /><br />so, where is our child's standing ?<br />is it somewhere at  beginning of the low band to the left, or somewhere  at middle of the band, or somewhere smacked right at the high band ?<br />where is your child ?<br />at low band, mid band, or high band ?<br /><span style="\&quot;color:"> because within the same band : scores can  differ<b><b>, by as much as 30 points </b></b></span>!<br /><br />info hidden from parents<br />lack of info : parents not sure whether child can appeal or cannot appeal, at this particular Secondary  school.<br /><br />due to lack of Transparency : parents more stressed<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1421600</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1421600</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[phtthp]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2014 16:24:25 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Abolition of PSLE scores begins with current P5 in 2014? on Mon, 24 Nov 2014 15:50:49 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>sinoboy:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>pirated:</b><p>[quote=\"jetsetter\"]How abt abolish PSLE?<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.ipscommons.sg/the-case-for-doing-away-with-the-psle/">http://www.ipscommons.sg/the-case-for-doing-away-with-the-psle/</a></p></blockquote></blockquote>good policy paper<br /><br />but mindset is hard to change<br /><br />may be my grand children will still be under the t-score system<br /><br />not necessary that the kids are not mature at 12 y/o to be nationally tested - the question is - is it the right time ? perhaps 3 years later?<br /><br />eg change the sec school + JC of 4 yrs + 2 yrs to 3+3, and testing at end of sec 3, then another 3 years leading to A level, like in China, only the gao kao determines the uni entrance with the pri school exam inconsequential<p></p></blockquote>There are broad implications when you apply changes like what you have suggested. It might affect our NS system and perhaps our tertiary education cycle. It may also affect the number of people coming here to study as an intermediate step to going to foreign universities. The assumption is also all PSLE candidates are 12 years old when some of them are not. Delaying the exam to allow students to mature may still give the even more matured students an edge. So why not just keep the PSLE but do away with t score and let the system do the posting based on some criteria and everybody be happy?  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f937.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--shrug" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":shrug:" alt="🤷" />[/quote]problem is unhappy people is/will be more than the odd ones who are not 12 y/o at PSLE.  NS system won't see any significant impact as sec sch + JC is still 6 yrs....foreign students ? they come at all ages entering the sec school at all levels anyway<br /><br />SG does not welcome foreign students anymore, some have been told not to apply / appeal anymore, even when their parents are gainfully employed in SG, while there are still vacancies in the system - any school - not even eyeing on any elite school<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1421578</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1421578</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[pirated]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2014 15:50:49 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>