FQW:

I think if it's a middle income family, you scenario will be ok. But for my helper's case, she's single-handedly supporting 3 schooling kids through cleaning houses and it's been pretty tough for her.

One more yr of studying means she has to fork out another year of fees and allowances.

The Pasta Greely:

FQW:

Looking at the MOE flowchart, it seemed my part time helper's dd made the wrong choice after O levels. She was accepted to poly (after my helper helped her to appeal) but chose to go ITE instead to be with boyfriend. Since ITE will eventually route back to poly, looks like she'll go one big circle.

OMG! Just for a boyfriend???

rains:

FQW:

Looking at the MOE flowchart, it seemed my part time helper's dd made the wrong choice after O levels. She was accepted to poly (after my helper helped her to appeal) but chose to go ITE instead to be with boyfriend. Since ITE will eventually route back to poly, looks like she'll go one big circle.

I had a friend who chose ITE over a pre-u institute (as told by her). She is now an accounts assistant. On hindsight, she probably made the right choice. She could have suffered in a pre-u centre and ended up with no cert if she had chosen to go to a pre-u then. But of course, at the time of her choice, she felt that pre-u centres were inferior, if not equal, to ITE.

Your helper's daughter is likely to do well or top her ITE cohort and make it to poly later on. Since she had to appeal into poly, perhaps it's just as well that she takes a few more years to mature and build a better foundation in her studies before going on to poly. And perhaps by then she would realise that it's not worth it to delay her education for a boyfriend, and for all you know, she would work harder than ever in poly

Sometimes, some of us are meant for longer routes.

FQW:

Looking at the MOE flowchart, it seemed my part time helper's dd made the wrong choice after O levels. She was accepted to poly (after my helper helped her to appeal) but chose to go ITE instead to be with boyfriend. Since ITE will eventually route back to poly, looks like she'll go one big circle.

FQW:

Looking at the MOE flowchart, it seemed my part time helper's dd made the wrong choice after O levels. She was accepted to poly (after my helper helped her to appeal) but chose to go ITE instead to be with boyfriend. Since ITE will eventually route back to poly, looks like she'll go one big circle.

FQW:

LShe was accepted to poly (after my helper helped her to appeal) but chose to go ITE instead to be with boyfriend.

rains:

There is always a highest entry point and lowest entry point. The highest entry point of express (non-ip) stream in normal years is 254 while the lowest entry point is 200 (+/-). If we go by your logic, shouldn't the 254 scorers be sore at 200 scorers who scrape through the threshold of express stream? And that's a difference of more than 50 points. Compared to the difference between your score and your classmate's, the gap is a lot wider.


174 is still very far from the qualifying score of the express stream, so don't feel 'wasted' that you couldn't get into the express stream. On the other hand, you should feel happy for your classmate that despite her lower score, she managed to get into the normal acad stream as it would offer her more options in school and in life compared to if she had been admitted into the normal tech stream.

slmkhoo:

FQW:

What's the road map for an avg NT student?


One thing which really shocked me was when I found out only around 67% of P6ers will qualify for Express. That percentage is quite low IMHO.

Actually, the original intention was for about 50% of the cohort to get into Express, with extra time given for weaker students to do N levels, and then O levels. It has been relaxed in recent years.

FQW:

rains:

NT students usually go to ITE to learn some lifeskills after their N levels. There should be some who make it to poly after that but they are very few if I not mistaken.

Thanks rain. So while some of the better scoring NA students would proceed to take O levels after taking N levels, the avg NT students will leave for ITE after their N levels? I guess the N levels for NA is different from that for NT. Is my understanding correct?

Btw I'm asking bcos one of my relatives is taking NA and his father is not so educated, thus I wish to find out more. Thanks.

SAHM_TAN:

slmkhoo:

[quote=\"FQW\"]What's the road map for an avg NT student?


One thing which really shocked me was when I found out only around 67% of P6ers will qualify for Express. That percentage is quite low IMHO.

Actually, the original intention was for about 50% of the cohort to get into Express, with extra time given for weaker students to do N levels, and then O levels. It has been relaxed in recent years.

rains:

NT students usually go to ITE to learn some lifeskills after their N levels. There should be some who make it to poly after that but they are very few if I not mistaken.

slmkhoo:

FQW:

What's the road map for an avg NT student?


One thing which really shocked me was when I found out only around 67% of P6ers will qualify for Express. That percentage is quite low IMHO.

Actually, the original intention was for about 50% of the cohort to get into Express, with extra time given for weaker students to do N levels, and then O levels. It has been relaxed in recent years.

FQW:

What's the road map for an avg NT student?


One thing which really shocked me was when I found out only around 67% of P6ers will qualify for Express. That percentage is quite low IMHO.

slmkhoo:

I don't want to comment on the fairness or unfairness of the system, but just want to point out that life is not always 'fair'. You don't know all the details, so there may be factors you are unaware of. For your own sake, just focus on your own studies and don't worry about whether others deserve to be there or not. Your results will be what really matter for you. Look at the positive side of being in NA - you get a slower pace and have more time to grasp concepts. If you do well, you have a chance to transfer to express later on, and you have a chance to take the O levels eventually anyway. If you went to express now, maybe you might find it really tough?

rains:

There is always a highest entry point and lowest entry point. The highest entry point of express (non-ip) stream in normal years is 254 while the lowest entry point is 200 (+/-). If we go by your logic, shouldn't the 254 scorers be sore at 200 scorers who scrape through the threshold of express stream? And that's a difference of more than 50 points. Compared to the difference between your score and your classmate's, the gap is a lot wider.


174 is still very far from the qualifying score of the express stream, so don't feel 'wasted' that you couldn't get into the express stream. On the other hand, you should feel happy for your classmate that despite her lower score, she managed to get into the normal acad stream as it would offer her more options in school and in life compared to if she had been admitted into the normal tech stream.