URA barge into my house and demand me to let them take pic

Reply to URA barge into my house and demand me to let them take pic on Tue, 22 Apr 2014 08:02:16 GMT

3Boys — Tue, 22 Apr 2014 08:02:16 GMT

Coolkidsrock2:
sleepy:
Yeah, even if someone is pressing door bells non-stop, I will ignore them. And I'm an adult lol

I let someone in recently. That person in from PUB. I received a letter a couple of weeks in advance to inform me at this date and duration whereby a PUB personnel would be coming for inspection. This is the 2nd time I received this letter so I know it's legitimate. They would usually conduct checks every 5 years.

The other time I would open my main door (gate still locked) is to sign a parcel from singpost. Postman will leave the parcel at my doorstep. I will unlock my gate after postman left.

The rest, without any advance notice, I will ignore all of them. Even if they know there's someone home and they continue to press the door bell persistently. Honestly, I am not obligated to answer the door if I'm not expecting anyone.

However, that's how I end up missing MPs on their walkabout lol
I would have love to complain about car park :evil:
Ditto for me.

I always have another adult at home, with maid or kids, even for NTUC delivery. For aircon servicing, it is always when hubby is at home.

If the person is early or late for the appointment such that the other adult is not/cannot be around, too bad. The door will not be opened. Nothing more, nothing less - within the appointed timing only. I have ever told them to wait at the reading room or downstairs till the appointed time.

Wow! Seriously?

But why?

Reply to URA barge into my house and demand me to let them take pic on Mon, 21 Apr 2014 11:12:20 GMT

Coolkidsrock2 — Mon, 21 Apr 2014 11:12:20 GMT

sleepy:
Yeah, even if someone is pressing door bells non-stop, I will ignore them. And I'm an adult lol

I let someone in recently. That person in from PUB. I received a letter a couple of weeks in advance to inform me at this date and duration whereby a PUB personnel would be coming for inspection. This is the 2nd time I received this letter so I know it's legitimate. They would usually conduct checks every 5 years.

The other time I would open my main door (gate still locked) is to sign a parcel from singpost. Postman will leave the parcel at my doorstep. I will unlock my gate after postman left.

The rest, without any advance notice, I will ignore all of them. Even if they know there's someone home and they continue to press the door bell persistently. Honestly, I am not obligated to answer the door if I'm not expecting anyone.

However, that's how I end up missing MPs on their walkabout lol
I would have love to complain about car park :evil:

Ditto for me.

I always have another adult at home, with maid or kids, even for NTUC delivery. For aircon servicing, it is always when hubby is at home.

If the person is early or late for the appointment such that the other adult is not/cannot be around, too bad. The door will not be opened. Nothing more, nothing less - within the appointed timing only. I have ever told them to wait at the reading room or downstairs till the appointed time.

Reply to URA barge into my house and demand me to let them take pic on Mon, 21 Apr 2014 10:49:10 GMT

ngl2010 — Mon, 21 Apr 2014 10:49:10 GMT

kiasubeng:
1. Always ask for identification. Even if they are Police Officers, you have the right to ask for identification.

2. Just because they claim to be from some government agency does not mean that one has to open the door; especially if you don't feel safe about doing so.

3. They can always schedule another appointment if there is a real need to do so. What can be so important that the work must be completed when your parents (key decision makers) are not around?

Be safe. Be alert.

It reminded me of the Kovan double murder. The murderer is a police officer, right?

Reply to URA barge into my house and demand me to let them take pic on Mon, 21 Apr 2014 09:10:27 GMT

sleepy — Mon, 21 Apr 2014 09:10:27 GMT

Yeah, even if someone is pressing door bells non-stop, I will ignore them. And I'm an adult lol

I let someone in recently. That person in from PUB. I received a letter a couple of weeks in advance to inform me at this date and duration whereby a PUB personnel would be coming for inspection. This is the 2nd time I received this letter so I know it's legitimate. They would usually conduct checks every 5 years.

The other time I would open my main door (gate still locked) is to sign a parcel from singpost. Postman will leave the parcel at my doorstep. I will unlock my gate after postman left.

The rest, without any advance notice, I will ignore all of them. Even if they know there's someone home and they continue to press the door bell persistently. Honestly, I am not obligated to answer the door if I'm not expecting anyone.

However, that's how I end up missing MPs on their walkabout lol
I would have love to complain about car park :evil:

Reply to URA barge into my house and demand me to let them take pic on Mon, 21 Apr 2014 08:43:02 GMT

kiasubeng — Mon, 21 Apr 2014 08:43:02 GMT

1. Always ask for identification. Even if they are Police Officers, you have the right to ask for identification.

2. Just because they claim to be from some government agency does not mean that one has to open the door; especially if you don’t feel safe about doing so.

3. They can always schedule another appointment if there is a real need to do so. What can be so important that the work must be completed when your parents (key decision makers) are not around?

Be safe. Be alert.

Reply to URA barge into my house and demand me to let them take pic on Mon, 21 Apr 2014 08:33:48 GMT

Beatrice_NoQ — Mon, 21 Apr 2014 08:33:48 GMT

This is very concerning. Everyone is right - no government employee of any kind has the right to barge into your house without identifying himself with authorized identification. I’d go a step further to say that even with identification, as a teenager / child, you have every right to deny access to any stranger without the express consent of your parent or guardian. Do not bow down to intimidation; in Singapore we all live in close quarters. If his shouting gets out-of-hand, I’m sure neighbours will come and investigate and will help you out.

Reply to URA barge into my house and demand me to let them take pic on Mon, 21 Apr 2014 05:47:39 GMT

Coolkidsrock2 — Mon, 21 Apr 2014 05:47:39 GMT

Normally the relevant stat board will write to you first to either inform you that they are coming or to request you to contact them to make an appointment for their visit.

Like what everyone said, do not open the door to strangers. Also, do not be intimidated by them. Best to leave the main door close if there is no adult home. I practise this with my kids and maid. They know they have my support should an issue arise later.

Perhaps you can take a photo/video of the person/stranger if he comes by and repeats the same. Perhaps it may deter him and he will leave. Or just close the door and call the police. Don’t engage into any discussion/conversation with him/any stranger.

Reply to URA barge into my house and demand me to let them take pic on Sun, 20 Apr 2014 04:17:39 GMT

limlim — Sun, 20 Apr 2014 04:17:39 GMT

claratanyinyin:

He even said that he is from URA, even if I call the police, I would still have to let him in to take pictures. Is this true?

even if this is the case, just call police first then see how.

Reply to URA barge into my house and demand me to let them take pic on Sat, 19 Apr 2014 05:47:11 GMT

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Reply to URA barge into my house and demand me to let them take pic on Sat, 19 Apr 2014 05:06:19 GMT

starlight1968sg — Sat, 19 Apr 2014 05:06:19 GMT

ngl2010:
Next time if you are alone and you don't know the person knocking on the door, please don't open the door. Don't answer it. You can pretend nobody at home. Better safe than sorry.

My issue is: I have the habit of leaving the door open (for better ventilation)with the grills locked.

Reply to URA barge into my house and demand me to let them take pic on Sat, 19 Apr 2014 04:57:14 GMT

ngl2010 — Sat, 19 Apr 2014 04:57:14 GMT

Next time if you are alone and you don’t know the person knocking on the door, please don’t open the door. Don’t answer it. You can pretend nobody at home. Better safe than sorry.

Reply to URA barge into my house and demand me to let them take pic on Sat, 19 Apr 2014 04:53:19 GMT

Popcorn — Sat, 19 Apr 2014 04:53:19 GMT

slmkhoo:
starlight1968sg:
So scary!

OT: Does police have every right to enter our home?
I found this article from 2010 (should still be valid) which explains how and under what circumstances various agencies' employees, including the police, may enter premises.

http://news.asiaone.com/News/The+New+Pa ... 39313.html

Thanks simkhoo. The link is very useful.

Seriously, even with the authorization card, pls won't open the door without verifing with the respective authority (call main line)... Don't use the number the person give you. If you don't open the door, what can they do to you? They can't charge you for being careful and in doubt. (unless one is doing illegal stuff at home)....How many of us have seen a real authorization card? I believe most people cant tell the fake from real. This kind of card can be easily fabricated from outside...

Always verify. If cant, then call police to assist. Don't be afraid that they will get angry cos they should know and understand this is the normal behaviour.
URA is in charge of urban planning, so why would they need to come into the house to take picture?

Reply to URA barge into my house and demand me to let them take pic on Sat, 19 Apr 2014 02:57:23 GMT

ammonite — Sat, 19 Apr 2014 02:57:23 GMT

claratanyinyin:
Dear Aunties and Uncle....

I just couldn't sleep for the whole night...was really trauma by this experience.

Yesterday, a man, who claimed that he was from URA. He demanded and barged into my house and said that he was from URA and he needs to come into my place to take photo.

He did not even show me his ID card and just barged into my house.

He even said that he is from URA, even if I call the police, I would still have to let him in to take pictures. Is this true?

I was alone and my parents were overseas. So I let him in. I felt really scared cos he was very fierce and demanding.

I dunno...but i really felt very traumatized after the whole incident. I feel scare, even till now.

My parents are overseas and I am alone by myself in the house.

Is it true that I would have to let the man in? As long he shows his pass that he is from URA? Is it right? I am feeling very confused and scared.

No he has no right to barge in, even if he is from URA.

As long as you don't feel safe, you can lock the door and refuse to let him in, no matter what badge he shows.

To to the police station with a trusted adult and make a report. Describe the man to them as well as you can.

The next time anyone tries that, take a photo of them, their identification card, and their supposed department. Tell them you will call The department to verify and make an appointment. If they get angry, ignore and snap away with your camera phone.

Make sure you lock your grills, including window grills.

Reply to URA barge into my house and demand me to let them take pic on Sat, 19 Apr 2014 02:31:00 GMT

sparks — Sat, 19 Apr 2014 02:31:00 GMT

From your moniker, I assume that you are a girl. The more you shouldn’t let strangers into your house no matter what, without first confirming his/her identities. He/she will try to kick up a big fuss & try to intimidate you into conforming to his/her request. But he can’t do anything to you if you don’t let him in. Call for help in the meantime. If he’s for real, he can wait.

But I don’t think URA has any business with inspecting individual households. So, he’s likely a fake.

Pls tell your parents/relatives or even teachers/friends about what happened so that you will be better prepared in case he turns up again.
Remember: Dont be afraid. You have every right to protect yourself from harm.

Hope you are feeling better.

Reply to URA barge into my house and demand me to let them take pic on Sat, 19 Apr 2014 02:13:07 GMT

Jennifer — Sat, 19 Apr 2014 02:13:07 GMT

These days, it isn’t difficult to impersonate policeman or the stranger can claim he is an undercover policeman. Whatever, call up the neighborhood police post police to come to check out the stranger.

We hv read enough of teenagers being tricked by such impersonation.

Reply to URA barge into my house and demand me to let them take pic on Sat, 19 Apr 2014 02:06:23 GMT

sharonkhoo — Sat, 19 Apr 2014 02:06:23 GMT

starlight1968sg:
So scary!

OT: Does police have every right to enter our home?

I found this article from 2010 (should still be valid) which explains how and under what circumstances various agencies' employees, including the police, may enter premises.

http://news.asiaone.com/News/The+New+Pa ... 39313.html

Reply to URA barge into my house and demand me to let them take pic on Sat, 19 Apr 2014 02:01:49 GMT

jetsetter — Sat, 19 Apr 2014 02:01:49 GMT

Did you call your parents?

Do you live in a flat? How could he barge in if there’s a gate?
If you live in a condo, how could the guy get past your guardhouse?
If you live in a landed property, isn’t there a big gate for you to scrutinise his credentials first?

Did your parents illegally sublet any bedrooms to tenants? But this is not by URA.
Did your parents illegally partition some rooms in your condo (if u r staying in one)?
Did your neighbours complain abt structural cracks/leakage in their unit(s) recently?

Which areas did this guy photograph? Ceiling? Toilet? Flooring?

NEA officials work in a small team. Singapore Power in pairs. SPRING comes in with contractors too. If there’re URA guys at all visiting pp’s houses, I guess they should work in min pairs too. They will hv to flash their IDs to prove that they’re govt officials. Even if they didn’t, you oughta have written down their particulars, which you failed to.

Pls call URA office on Monday to verify if you haven’t already done so on Thursday.

Reply to URA barge into my house and demand me to let them take pic on Sat, 19 Apr 2014 01:58:39 GMT

starlight1968sg — Sat, 19 Apr 2014 01:58:39 GMT

So scary!

OT: Does police have every right to enter our home?

Reply to URA barge into my house and demand me to let them take pic on Sat, 19 Apr 2014 01:58:28 GMT

sharonkhoo — Sat, 19 Apr 2014 01:58:28 GMT

How old are you? I was left at home with a younger brother for 2 mths when I was 17yo, and I remember being quite nervous even though I had relatives staying next door. I can’t emphasise enough - DO NOT allow any stranger in the house for any reason, and no matter what threats they make! Actually call the police if they insist! Without ID, they cannot insist on entering your house, and even if they show ID, they should have some kind of letter of authorisation saying what they intend to do, and who you can call to confirm. By the way, in case you get into this situation again, if the phone. no. for confirmation is a mobile phone no., also beware. It’s better that you find and call the main tel. line of the agency concerned and ask for the person-in-charge (should be named in the letter) by name. Never mind about keeping the person waiting - if he is genuine, he would expect his daughter/sister to do the same in your situation, so he should understand.

In this case, I hope nothing bad happened, but you should have stood firm, even if he shouted at you. If he was from a govt agency, he should not have refused to show ID and got angry, so I believe it was a hoax. Do you have any other adult you can call on while your parents are away? A grandparent, aunt/uncle, family friend, neighbour, even a teacher? My advice is that you call someone and tell them what has happened, and you should probably report the incident to the URA or the police. If the person was a badly-behaved URA employee, he will be warned; if it was some kind of hoax, the police will probably keep a close eye on your house for the time being. Maybe you can go and stay somewhere else until your parents come home? I hope you didn’t tell the man that your parents are away. Do take care. Call a responsible adult or tell an adult neighbour as soon as possible!

Reply to URA barge into my house and demand me to let them take pic on Sat, 19 Apr 2014 01:54:25 GMT

Jennifer — Sat, 19 Apr 2014 01:54:25 GMT

If there is no one else at home, I would advise not to let any strangers into the house. Get a neighbour to accompany you or you call the Neighbourhood Police Post officer to come to your house to check out the stranger.

In the meanwhile, I would suggest you do the following:

1. Call up a relative to let relate what happened
2. Get the relative to call up URA to check the identity of the stranger
3. If the stranger is really from URA, lodge a complaint with URA abt the overbearing attitude of the personnel.
4. If the stranger is not from URA, call the neighbourhood police post to inform of a suspicious stranger you had let into your house while your parents were away. Request the police to increase patrolling your neighbourhood.

Reply to URA barge into my house and demand me to let them take pic on Fri, 18 Apr 2014 16:33:32 GMT

janet88 — Fri, 18 Apr 2014 16:33:32 GMT

if he claimed to be from URA, he should have identification.

perhaps you would like to call URA/police to inform them what happened.
do NOT open the gate for anyone if this happens again.
even if he showed you URA identification pass, call to confirm while keeping the gate/door closed.

Reply to URA barge into my house and demand me to let them take pic on Fri, 18 Apr 2014 16:29:58 GMT

Popcorn — Fri, 18 Apr 2014 16:29:58 GMT

claratanyinyin:
Dear Aunties and Uncle....

I just couldn't sleep for the whole night...was really trauma by this experience.

Yesterday, a man, who claimed that he was from URA. He demanded and barged into my house and said that he was from URA and he needs to come into my place to take photo.

He did not even show me his ID card and just barged into my house.

He even said that he is from URA, even if I call the police, I would still have to let him in to take pictures. Is this true?

I was alone and my parents were overseas. So I let him in. I felt really scared cos he was very fierce and demanding.

I dunno...but i really felt very traumatized after the whole incident. I feel scare, even till now.

My parents are overseas and I am alone by myself in the house.

Is it true that I would have to let the man in? As long he shows his pass that he is from URA? Is it right? I am feeling very confused and scared.

Did he explain to you why he needs to come into the house to take picture? Normally URA will send you a written notice to inform you that they will be sending their personnel to your house prior the photo taking. The date, time, reason will be given....They are supposed to show you their authorization card when they visit. You can also called up URA to check if they have indeed authorized their personnel to your place for photo taking.

Pls DO NOT open doors for strangers no matter how demanding and fierce they are even if they showed you their passes. They have no right to enter your house if no advance notice is given, and moreover you are alone.

Call up URA and check, hope u are okie!!!!

Reply to URA barge into my house and demand me to let them take pic on Fri, 18 Apr 2014 14:07:52 GMT

Jennifer — Fri, 18 Apr 2014 14:07:52 GMT

I hope nothing unpleasant has happened.