Milk for 7 year old

Reply to Milk for 7 year old on Wed, 30 Apr 2014 01:40:28 GMT

sharonkhoo — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 01:40:28 GMT

chloecube:
i just find the whole episode very funny but also pitiful

losing weight is a life time goal for woman and she got to start at age 9

Good health and a healthy weight is important for all, not just women. If a boy is overweight, he should be concerned too. For a girl, there is a higher danger that she becomes obsessed with weight for the sake of appearance, not health, and her self-esteem may become tied to weight loss, and that could lead to eating disorders. Please don't let that happen to your girl. Always emphasize that the weight loss is for health reasons, not because of appearance or popularity. Find out what the healthy weight for her height is, and don't let her lose too much. Also, guide her to eat sufficient healthy foods (and hopefully she will grow to like them over the unhealthy ones) and not just focus on cutting down on the pediasure. All the best.

Reply to Milk for 7 year old on Wed, 30 Apr 2014 00:50:31 GMT

chloecube — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 00:50:31 GMT

thks everyone

DD updated me ytd when i reached home, she proudly told me she only drank 2 cups yesterday and she has been walking on the treadmill for 15min. not a lot though, but at least a good start
she also keep going to the weighing machine to weigh herself..whaha
told her to do it once a week instead, else she will be very stress.
she was over the moon and text me that she drop 500g...

i just find the whole episode very funny but also pitiful
losing weight is a life time goal for woman and she got to start at age 9

Reply to Milk for 7 year old on Wed, 30 Apr 2014 00:10:56 GMT

sharonkhoo — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 00:10:56 GMT

ammonite:
chloecube:

thks for the info
can i try her out on those off shelves low fat fresh milk? will it be healthier?
Fresh milk, whole or low fat depending on the child's weight, is preferable to me. It does not have added sugar. I don't consider milk a necessity, just that it is a convenient way to add some protein to breakfast to keep blood sugar level constant. (hm, something to consider if she gets grouchy without milk?)

If your daughter is used to pediasure, she may find fresh milk not sweet enough. Maybe you can give it to her as a fruit smoothie when transiting? And maybe you can give it to her in a smaller cup if you want to cut down on her milk intake without changing frequency?

Other ideas - I used to mix fruit juice into plain milk for my kids during the transition from formula to plain milk. It adds sweetness but not as much as flavoured milk (eg. strawberry, chocolate etc), and I reduced the proportion gradually until they were OK with plain milk. Or you can mix some flavoured milk into plain milk.

I think ammonite's observation about blood sugar could partly explain your daughter's grumpiness when she doesn't drink pediasure (the other part is probably just not getting her own way). Maybe you can replace it with plain milk and some not-too-sugar-laden cookies, fruit, or snack? You could reduce the perdiasure frequency gradually as well, eg. cut back to 6, then 4 then 2 over 2-3 weeks. All the best.

Reply to Milk for 7 year old on Tue, 29 Apr 2014 23:23:42 GMT

ammonite — Tue, 29 Apr 2014 23:23:42 GMT

chloecube:

thks for the info
can i try her out on those off shelves low fat fresh milk? will it be healthier?

Fresh milk, whole or low fat depending on the child's weight, is preferable to me. It does not have added sugar. I don't consider milk a necessity, just that it is a convenient way to add some protein to breakfast to keep blood sugar level constant. (hm, something to consider if she gets grouchy without milk?)

If your daughter is used to pediasure, she may find fresh milk not sweet enough. Maybe you can give it to her as a fruit smoothie when transiting? And maybe you can give it to her in a smaller cup if you want to cut down on her milk intake without changing frequency?

Reply to Milk for 7 year old on Tue, 29 Apr 2014 12:57:26 GMT

bb_ mom — Tue, 29 Apr 2014 12:57:26 GMT

slmkhoo:
chloecube:
thks for the info

can i try her out on those off shelves low fat fresh milk? will it be healthier?
At her age, she can eat anything an adult can eat. Low fat milk will definitely be better for her if she is overweight. If she is getting conscious about her weight, this is a good time for you to tell her about eating a balanced diet. Too much of any food is bad as it will displace other necessary foods, and too many calories ingested will add to her weight. Show her the food pyramid etc.

I think my DD felt some peer pressure cos her GF in primary school & even now are all skinny. So she watches what she eats & exercises too! She still eats her regular B, L, D but reduces carbo at lunch and/or dinner & we're ok with that. She cuts back on soft drinks & processed food, both which she loves.

Reply to Milk for 7 year old on Tue, 29 Apr 2014 12:51:00 GMT

sharonkhoo — Tue, 29 Apr 2014 12:51:00 GMT

chloecube:
thks for the info

can i try her out on those off shelves low fat fresh milk? will it be healthier?

At her age, she can eat anything an adult can eat. Low fat milk will definitely be better for her if she is overweight. If she is getting conscious about her weight, this is a good time for you to tell her about eating a balanced diet. Too much of any food is bad as it will displace other necessary foods, and too many calories ingested will add to her weight. Show her the food pyramid etc.

Reply to Milk for 7 year old on Tue, 29 Apr 2014 10:01:57 GMT

bb_ mom — Tue, 29 Apr 2014 10:01:57 GMT

chloecube:

can i try her out on those off shelves low fat fresh milk? will it be healthier?

I personally prefer fresh milk instead of UHT milk. But UHT is definitely cheaper.

Reply to Milk for 7 year old on Tue, 29 Apr 2014 07:51:38 GMT

chloecube — Tue, 29 Apr 2014 07:51:38 GMT

slmkhoo:
chloecube:
like funz's, DD drink milk like water, she is drinking pediacure vanilla. she keep asking for milk whole day long if she is at home.

i didnt really count the nos of cups she drinks, but i would safely say around 7-8 cups. she can drink a cup right after each meal. and before sleep is a must. else she has difficulty sleeping.
she is like addicted to milk!
i know milk is good, but this has also caused her to put on much weight. she is coming 9 and weight 33kg leh
You need to switch her to lower-calorie drinks. Milk just once or twice a day is OK if it's low fat. Pediasure is very high calorie. Be strict. Childhood obesity can lead to diabetes.

thks for the info
can i try her out on those off shelves low fat fresh milk? will it be healthier?

Reply to Milk for 7 year old on Tue, 29 Apr 2014 07:48:42 GMT

chloecube — Tue, 29 Apr 2014 07:48:42 GMT

Funz:
chloecube:
like funz's, DD drink milk like water, she is drinking pediacure vanilla. she keep asking for milk whole day long if she is at home.

i didnt really count the nos of cups she drinks, but i would safely say around 7-8 cups. she can drink a cup right after each meal. and before sleep is a must. else she has difficulty sleeping.
she is like addicted to milk!
i know milk is good, but this has also caused her to put on much weight. she is coming 9 and weight 33kg leh
If she is eating normally, no need for pediasure, expensive and most of the calories are from sugar according to kiddos' PD.

33kg, heavy or not, depends on height and frame. My DS also 9yrs old, we were all cheering when he finally hit 25kg. haha.

i wish i can cut down on her malk, but i cant
she will turn grouchy and irritated when i refused her milk.
it is like a comfort drinks to her, but i have been trying to cut down the intake to 3-4 times per day and slowly cut down more to 2.

DD seldom eats vege and very less meat. she mostly take rice with soup or with gravy, she can finish a bowl of plain rice with just the gravy. she is rather picky and fussy on food.

DD is quite tall for her age but is getting conscious as everyone who see her say she has been putting on weight. her flesh is very hard and i can see some cellulite on her tummy she now hope to bring her weight down to 26kg.

maybe i will get her to try low-fat milk instead of pediasure

Reply to Milk for 7 year old on Tue, 29 Apr 2014 06:30:52 GMT

jetsetter — Tue, 29 Apr 2014 06:30:52 GMT

slmkhoo:

Be strict. Childhood obesity can lead to diabetes.

Good point!

Reply to Milk for 7 year old on Tue, 29 Apr 2014 04:32:02 GMT

bb_ mom — Tue, 29 Apr 2014 04:32:02 GMT

Funz:
He is still ok. DD is 42kg. She looks a bit tubby but it's all tough. Her thighs are very muscular, try smacking her butt and your hands will hurt instead.

:rotflmao: Ok, I'll avoid it to keep my hand from getting hurt.

Reply to Milk for 7 year old on Tue, 29 Apr 2014 04:29:30 GMT

Funz — Tue, 29 Apr 2014 04:29:30 GMT

bb_ mom:
Funz:
If she is eating normally, no need for pediasure, expensive and most of the calories are from sugar according to kiddos' PD.

33kg, heavy or not, depends on height and frame. My DS also 9yrs old, we were all cheering when he finally hit 25kg. haha.
Hey! Same! I remember it took very long for DS to cross the 20kg hurdle. But he ballooned at end of P4 cos his food intake increased. :scared: He's now 10.5 & weighs about 35 kg, I think. That's why so thankful we put him on hi-low instead of continuing with full cream milk.

He is still ok. DD is 42kg. She looks a bit tubby but it's all tough. Her thighs are very muscular, try smacking her butt and your hands will hurt instead.

Reply to Milk for 7 year old on Tue, 29 Apr 2014 03:41:31 GMT

bb_ mom — Tue, 29 Apr 2014 03:41:31 GMT

Funz:
chloecube:
like funz's, DD drink milk like water, she is drinking pediacure vanilla. she keep asking for milk whole day long if she is at home.

i didnt really count the nos of cups she drinks, but i would safely say around 7-8 cups. she can drink a cup right after each meal. and before sleep is a must. else she has difficulty sleeping.
she is like addicted to milk!
i know milk is good, but this has also caused her to put on much weight. she is coming 9 and weight 33kg leh
If she is eating normally, no need for pediasure, expensive and most of the calories are from sugar according to kiddos' PD.

33kg, heavy or not, depends on height and frame. My DS also 9yrs old, we were all cheering when he finally hit 25kg. haha.

Hey! Same! I remember it took very long for DS to cross the 20kg hurdle. But he ballooned at end of P4 cos his food intake increased. :scared: He's now 10.5 & weighs about 35 kg, I think. That's why so thankful we put him on hi-low instead of continuing with full cream milk.

Reply to Milk for 7 year old on Tue, 29 Apr 2014 03:39:36 GMT

bb_ mom — Tue, 29 Apr 2014 03:39:36 GMT

My DS is like Funz & chloecube’s kids. He used to drink milk when thirsty. Until I stopped him, he was taking 2 litres of milk in like 2 to 3 days! Don’t talk about putting on weight, his stomach had problem digesting all the milk consumed at such a rapid rate. Now, when he comes home after exercise/playing and heads to the kitchen, I remind him to drink water & not milk.

My DD used to be a bit tubby until she got more conscious. She still loves soft drinks, sweets & milk. But restricts herself. As parents, we help by giving hi-low milk instead of full cream. Start early and resistance to switch is lower.

Reply to Milk for 7 year old on Tue, 29 Apr 2014 02:52:22 GMT

Funz — Tue, 29 Apr 2014 02:52:22 GMT

chloecube:
like funz's, DD drink milk like water, she is drinking pediacure vanilla. she keep asking for milk whole day long if she is at home.

i didnt really count the nos of cups she drinks, but i would safely say around 7-8 cups. she can drink a cup right after each meal. and before sleep is a must. else she has difficulty sleeping.
she is like addicted to milk!
i know milk is good, but this has also caused her to put on much weight. she is coming 9 and weight 33kg leh

If she is eating normally, no need for pediasure, expensive and most of the calories are from sugar according to kiddos' PD.

33kg, heavy or not, depends on height and frame. My DS also 9yrs old, we were all cheering when he finally hit 25kg. haha.

Reply to Milk for 7 year old on Tue, 29 Apr 2014 02:47:33 GMT

sharonkhoo — Tue, 29 Apr 2014 02:47:33 GMT

chloecube:
like funz's, DD drink milk like water, she is drinking pediacure vanilla. she keep asking for milk whole day long if she is at home.

i didnt really count the nos of cups she drinks, but i would safely say around 7-8 cups. she can drink a cup right after each meal. and before sleep is a must. else she has difficulty sleeping.
she is like addicted to milk!
i know milk is good, but this has also caused her to put on much weight. she is coming 9 and weight 33kg leh

You need to switch her to lower-calorie drinks. Milk just once or twice a day is OK if it's low fat. Pediasure is very high calorie. Be strict. Childhood obesity can lead to diabetes.

Reply to Milk for 7 year old on Tue, 29 Apr 2014 02:08:28 GMT

Funz — Tue, 29 Apr 2014 02:08:28 GMT

33mama:
Funz:
[quote=\"33mama\"]For mine, morning before they go to school - Full cream milk...

In the evening if they want, fresh milk or packet milk - Full cream... Many parents recommend to use full cream after they go primary.
I thought with the current concerns about childhood obesity, the recommended was for children to drink low fat milk instead of full fat milk?

And since milk will not be their staple anymore, they will be getting all sorts of fats from other sources of food so going low fat is a way to reduce the amount of fats they take in.

my kids size are ok.... i think... so gave them full cream.
they exercise a lot.[/quote]The concern is also not just the size that they are now but full fat being trans fat that is no good for the long term.

I guess, it all depends on parents. For us, both kids were skinny when they were younger, I still stuck to low fat milk for them since they were 2yrs old. Now DS is still skinny and DD is a bit tubby. Both are physically very active.

Looking at DH and myself and our family members, we tend to be on the fleshy side, so gene wise, I think kiddos have the potential to expand. I am not going to aid that potential.

Reply to Milk for 7 year old on Tue, 29 Apr 2014 02:04:30 GMT

chloecube — Tue, 29 Apr 2014 02:04:30 GMT

like funz's, DD drink milk like water, she is drinking pediacure vanilla. she keep asking for milk whole day long if she is at home.

i didnt really count the nos of cups she drinks, but i would safely say around 7-8 cups. she can drink a cup right after each meal. and before sleep is a must. else she has difficulty sleeping.
she is like addicted to milk!
i know milk is good, but this has also caused her to put on much weight. she is coming 9 and weight 33kg leh

Reply to Milk for 7 year old on Tue, 29 Apr 2014 01:56:10 GMT

sharonkhoo — Tue, 29 Apr 2014 01:56:10 GMT

33mama:
Funz:
[quote=\"33mama\"]For mine, morning before they go to school - Full cream milk...

In the evening if they want, fresh milk or packet milk - Full cream... Many parents recommend to use full cream after they go primary.
I thought with the current concerns about childhood obesity, the recommended was for children to drink low fat milk instead of full fat milk?

And since milk will not be their staple anymore, they will be getting all sorts of fats from other sources of food so going low fat is a way to reduce the amount of fats they take in.

my kids size are ok.... i think... so gave them full cream.
they exercise a lot.[/quote]The other concern I have is getting them used to low fat before they get too used to full cream. A lot of the western kids I knew who were used to full cream resisted switching to low fat when they were older because they didn't like the taste of low fat, and it made weight control harder for them.

Reply to Milk for 7 year old on Tue, 29 Apr 2014 01:49:30 GMT

33mama — Tue, 29 Apr 2014 01:49:30 GMT

Funz:
33mama:
For mine, morning before they go to school - Full cream milk...

In the evening if they want, fresh milk or packet milk - Full cream... Many parents recommend to use full cream after they go primary.
I thought with the current concerns about childhood obesity, the recommended was for children to drink low fat milk instead of full fat milk?

And since milk will not be their staple anymore, they will be getting all sorts of fats from other sources of food so going low fat is a way to reduce the amount of fats they take in.

my kids size are ok.... i think... so gave them full cream.
they exercise a lot.

Reply to Milk for 7 year old on Tue, 29 Apr 2014 01:47:35 GMT

Funz — Tue, 29 Apr 2014 01:47:35 GMT

33mama:
For mine, morning before they go to school - Full cream milk...

In the evening if they want, fresh milk or packet milk - Full cream... Many parents recommend to use full cream after they go primary.

I thought with the current concerns about childhood obesity, the recommended was for children to drink low fat milk instead of full fat milk?

And since milk will not be their staple anymore, they will be getting all sorts of fats from other sources of food so going low fat is a way to reduce the amount of fats they take in.

Reply to Milk for 7 year old on Tue, 29 Apr 2014 01:44:58 GMT

33mama — Tue, 29 Apr 2014 01:44:58 GMT

slmkhoo:
33mama:
For mine, morning before they go to school - Full cream milk...

In the evening if they want, fresh milk or packet milk - Full cream... Many parents recommend to use full cream after they go primary.
I think you mean that parents recommend stopping formula milk? Once kids are past 2yo, it's OK to give them low-fat milk. For kids who are eating well and maybe getting a little tubby, low-fat is a better option. Nutritionally, there is no difference between fresh, UHT and powdered milk. I use powdered as it's not as heavy to carry and keeps longer.

morning full cream powdered - to make warm milk...

Reply to Milk for 7 year old on Tue, 29 Apr 2014 01:41:08 GMT

sharonkhoo — Tue, 29 Apr 2014 01:41:08 GMT

33mama:
For mine, morning before they go to school - Full cream milk...

In the evening if they want, fresh milk or packet milk - Full cream... Many parents recommend to use full cream after they go primary.

I think you mean that parents recommend stopping formula milk? Once kids are past 2yo, it's OK to give them low-fat milk. For kids who are eating well and maybe getting a little tubby, low-fat is a better option. Nutritionally, there is no difference between fresh, UHT and powdered milk. I use powdered as it's not as heavy to carry and keeps longer.